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j3rkules 06-10-2021 09:44 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by maxjohan (Post 22871878)
CB didn't work out well for me. I'm going to test with Awempire now. :(:helpme

It is pretty normal. There are sponsors that work for some and for others they just do not. Keep testing.

:winkwink:

MobileVRXXX 06-11-2021 06:19 AM

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Originally Posted by ianmoone332000 (Post 22871911)
Hi Mobile,

In your sig it says Chaturbate moved a whale back under you after they resigned up under someone else. What did you say in your initial email to make them look into it etc?. Earnings are now at the point its not really worth me doing this anymore. Id love them to check my account for that sort of thing

I managed to see that this guy is still frequenting some of my websites but wasn't spending so I gave them all details and they moved it back under me.

That said after 20 more days he stopped spending again I sent at least 10 emails (as I am 99,99% sure he is still on CB but with a new account) but I haven't received a single response.

I gave up

ianmoone332000 06-11-2021 08:04 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MobileVRXXX (Post 22872384)
I managed to see that this guy is still frequenting some of my websites but wasn't spending so I gave them all details and they moved it back under me.

That said after 20 more days he stopped spending again I sent at least 10 emails (as I am 99,99% sure he is still on CB but with a new account) but I haven't received a single response.

I gave up

Cheers for the reply. Its actually the first time i have heard of anyone getting a signup back though. Just feels like me/all us have been fighting this nonsense for years whilst it just keeps getting worse. 4 years iv been sending them traffic for. Now my earnings are at the point its not really worth it for the work i put in now. Its odd but when you have respectable money coming in via it you get angry and fight when you see the shit being pulled. When that goes you just dont give a shit anymore

MobileVRXXX 06-11-2021 11:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ianmoone332000 (Post 22872426)
Cheers for the reply. Its actually the first time i have heard of anyone getting a signup back though. Just feels like me/all us have been fighting this nonsense for years whilst it just keeps getting worse. 4 years iv been sending them traffic for. Now my earnings are at the point its not really worth it for the work i put in now. Its odd but when you have respectable money coming in via it you get angry and fight when you see the shit being pulled. When that goes you just dont give a shit anymore

I feel you I am sending 30-50 users a day (used to be around 80) and instead of making more money I make less but Whales turn the tide for us so..

ianmoone332000 06-12-2021 07:07 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MobileVRXXX (Post 22872743)
I feel you I am sending 30-50 users a day (used to be around 80) and instead of making more money I make less but Whales turn the tide for us so..

Even when i go on Chaturbate and have a look around i still cannot fathom why they have traffic leaks on every profile you see. Onlyfans, Pornhub, Amazon wish list, models own sites and everything else. You honestly need to ask yourself why the fuck would a company send their customers over to other sites to spend their money rather than retain them to spend it on them?. They are either making money from allowing it someway or they have a fucking idiot in charge. Something major has to happen to them so they ban all external links and stop allowing models into the affiliate program. Keep screwing over the people that helped put you where you are and karma will bite you on the ass

TaiGhost 06-12-2021 07:15 AM

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Originally Posted by ianmoone332000 (Post 22872787)
Even when i go on Chaturbate and have a look around i still cannot fathom why they have traffic leaks on every profile you see. Onlyfans, Pornhub, Amazon wish list, models own sites and everything else. You honestly need to ask yourself why the fuck would a company send their customers over to other sites to spend their money rather than retain them to spend it on them?. They are either making money from allowing it someway or they have a fucking idiot in charge. Something major has to happen to them so they ban all external links and stop allowing models into the affiliate program. Keep screwing over the people that helped put you where you are and karma will bite you on the ass

Perhaps the leaks are being tallied through the ad network on chaturbate? Which is supposed to be theirs? Maybe cb has models sign up for their ad network and both cb and model get cut? No proof so I am asking questions... Its been going on for awhile.

Colmike9 06-12-2021 10:53 AM

There are tubes now that are instructing people to sign out and create a new account to see "recorded" cam girl videos, which aren't even real or hosted on the tubes, then create the accounts with XXX letters in front or at the end of the account. It's that same fake tube format from years ago that made you sign up to free trials to paysites, just a little different now.

Not sure if that would cause people to spend on the new accounts, and the affiliates aren't really breaking rules like the performers doing this are. Just pointing it out. :upsidedow

ianmoone332000 06-12-2021 04:49 PM

You got a link to the tubes?

sarettah 06-12-2021 05:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Colmike9 (Post 22872841)
There are tubes now that are instructing people to sign out and create a new account to see "recorded" cam girl videos, which aren't even real or hosted on the tubes, then create the accounts with XXX letters in front or at the end of the account. It's that same fake tube format from years ago that made you sign up to free trials to paysites, just a little different now.

Not sure if that would cause people to spend on the new accounts, and the affiliates aren't really breaking rules like the performers doing this are. Just pointing it out. :upsidedow

If they r affiliates of chaturbate telling chaturbate users to clear cookies and create new chaturbate accounts they r definitely breaking the rules.

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Colmike9 06-12-2021 06:10 PM

Edit: not sure if what they're doing is bad or not, I'll PM you with details

JesseQuinn 06-12-2021 06:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sarettah (Post 22872956)
If they r affiliates of chaturbate telling chaturbate users to clear cookies and create new chaturbate accounts they r definitely breaking the rules.

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word

cam performers being affs isn't the issue. streamate allows talent to promote their profile links for higher pay but anyone who would try to get a current customer to clear cookies/change browsers/resign up would be banned in a heartbeat, or at minimum text declined

I know this from helping some peeps sign up to that site which up until recently I was completely unfamiliar with so hadn't seen the talent back end until recently (no, I am not a studio, just trying to help in trying times). there's actually a warning in the admin that performers can't post their cammodels ref/aff link in their profile or in chat. any profile text has to be approved by an admin

cb prob doesn't enforce their own rules as they have become massively saturated and figure talent will bring in more spenders than some random aff

that's my guess. could be wrong

but performers being able to pimp their own ref links offsite are not the issue

cb enforcing their own rules is

TaiGhost 06-13-2021 12:15 AM

PunkerB was asked a week ago to clarify CBs position moving forward. On the x board. She was in the thread responding to a model's complaint of being banned. No response so far.

ianmoone332000 06-13-2021 04:13 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TaiGhost (Post 22873056)
PunkerB was asked a week ago to clarify CBs position moving forward. On the x board. She was in the thread responding to a model's complaint of being banned. No response so far.

Yeah i have had a chat or 2 with Punker. I think shes been told to stay silent on anything to do with all this tbh. I got her to come look at this thread a while back. Said on the thread it had a lot of moving parts going on and then nothing. I dont blame her though. People say she is really helpful but she clearly has her hands tied nowadays. Check my past 7 days earnings. Killing it!!

https://prnt.sc/1597wo7

TaiGhost 06-13-2021 07:24 AM

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Originally Posted by ianmoone332000 (Post 22873079)
Yeah i have had a chat or 2 with Punker. I think shes been told to stay silent on anything to do with all this tbh. I got her to come look at this thread a while back. Said on the thread it had a lot of moving parts going on and then nothing. I dont blame her though. People say she is really helpful but she clearly has her hands tied nowadays. Check my past 7 days earnings. Killing it!!

https://prnt.sc/1597wo7

Nice. Glad you are killing it. It comes in waves for us as well. Smaller waves but at least not totally gone.

I don't blame her as well. I know there are people above her or so I am told.

I just wish there was a system that all could be happy with and have models work with affs and not against to increase overall earnings.

freaked 06-13-2021 09:14 AM

https://prnt.sc/15a4o5i
No new spenders for last 3 month with the same traffic

PretjeNL 06-13-2021 09:35 AM

CB need strict rules like other sites AND enforce that rules, that's all.

Colmike9 06-13-2021 10:03 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sarettah (Post 22872956)
If they r affiliates of chaturbate telling chaturbate users to clear cookies and create new chaturbate accounts they r definitely breaking the rules.

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Before, there was a lightbox coming up when you click play and asks "Are you a member of Chaturbate? y/n" Then it used to tell you to sign out and create a new user, but when I checked yesterday it just redirects to a different cam offer and only tells you to make a CB account if you click no now. So all good, my bad.

ianmoone332000 06-13-2021 12:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Colmike9 (Post 22873159)
Before, there was a lightbox coming up when you click play and asks "Are you a member of Chaturbate? y/n" Then it used to tell you to sign out and create a new user, but when I checked yesterday it just redirects to a different cam offer and only tells you to make a CB account if you click no now. So all good, my bad.

Still shows you even webmasters are getting in on it. I was over on Amber and someone was saying Chaturbate got to big and they cant run it the way it needs to be run. Old recordings being looped and even girls snorting coke live. Apparently that PunkerBarbie that posts isnt even Shirley anymore its someone else. Somethings gonna give with it surely

GoCastaway 06-13-2021 05:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Colmike9 (Post 22872973)
Edit: not sure if what they're doing is bad or not, I'll PM you with details

I am also interested in that tubes

harpreetxi 06-14-2021 08:52 AM

Guys I need some api related help. I am trying to make thumbnail ads using there api.

I want to show my whitelabe chatrooms but it's showing Chaturbate rooms instead. My coder said chatroom urls are delivered by api

chat_room_url_revshare

How can I make api to deliver whitelabe rooms not Chaturbate rooms. Tags below thumbs are taking us to whitelabe, but when we click on thumbs, it take us to Chaturbate.

Djoped 06-14-2021 08:55 AM

I don't make much money, who is teaching

sarettah 06-14-2021 11:27 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by harpreetxi (Post 22873567)
Guys I need some api related help. I am trying to make thumbnail ads using there api.

I want to show my whitelabe chatrooms but it's showing Chaturbate rooms instead. My coder said chatroom urls are delivered by api

chat_room_url_revshare

How can I make api to deliver whitelabe rooms not Chaturbate rooms. Tags below thumbs are taking us to whitelabe, but when we click on thumbs, it take us to Chaturbate.

As you present the thumbs you need to change out the url that is comi9ng in from the api with the url for your whitelabel.

It is actually pretty simple and if you have a coder they should be able to figure it out.

The whitelabel url for a room is whitelabel/username. So when you are cycling through the api you put that url up instead of the "chat_room_url_revshare" that is coming in through the api.

Since I don't know exactly how your site is coded I can't really tell you any more than that.

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harpreetxi 06-14-2021 10:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sarettah (Post 22873621)
As you present the thumbs you need to change out the url that is comi9ng in from the api with the url for your whitelabel.

It is actually pretty simple and if you have a coder they should be able to figure it out.

The whitelabel url for a room is whitelabel/username. So when you are cycling through the api you put that url up instead of the "chat_room_url_revshare" that is coming in through the api.

Since I don't know exactly how your site is coded I can't really tell you any more than that.

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Hi,

thank you for replying. Can you tell me an example whitelable name, how to add it in this code ? When I added my alias name & domain name, its still not working properly.


<a href="<? echo str_replace('track=default', 'track='.$track.'', $rr[$first_cam]->chat_room_url_revshare); ?>" target="_blank">
<? if($rr[$first_cam]->is_hd===true){ ?><div class="ishd">HD+</div> <? } ?>
<img src="<? echo $rr[$first_cam]->image_url_360x270; ?>">

sarettah 06-14-2021 10:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by harpreetxi (Post 22873899)
Hi,

thank you for replying. Can you tell me an example whitelable name, how to add it in this code ? When I added my alias name & domain name, its still not working properly.


<a href="<? echo str_replace('track=default', 'track='.$track.'', $rr[$first_cam]->chat_room_url_revshare); ?>" target="_blank">
<? if($rr[$first_cam]->is_hd===true){ ?><div class="ishd">HD+</div> <? } ?>
<img src="<? echo $rr[$first_cam]->image_url_360x270; ?>">

If I am reading your code correctly and the cam record from the api is in $rr[$first_cam] then this should work:

Instead of this:

<a href="<? echo str_replace('track=default', 'track='.$track.'', $rr[$first_cam]->chat_room_url_revshare); ?>"

You would use this:

<a href="<? echo 'https://mywhitelabel.com/' . $rr[$first_cam]->username . '/?track=' . $track; ?>" target="_blank">

Replace mywhitelabel.com with the domain you are using for your whitelabel. For example, I have a whitelabel at camfoxes.net so I would end up with <a href="<echo 'https://www.camfoxes.net/' . $rr[$first_cam]->username . '/?track=' . $track; ?>"

If we had the model named 'sasha_ursx' then the url coming out of there would be https://www.camfoxes.net/sasha_ursx/.

That make sense?

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ianmoone332000 06-15-2021 06:00 AM

https://chaturbate.com/angelina_new/

If they had banned someone on the site right when this shit started it would never have gotten this bad

ianmoone332000 06-15-2021 06:01 AM

https://chaturbate.com/angelina_new/

Another at it

ianmoone332000 06-15-2021 06:03 AM

https://chaturbate.com/angelina_new/

Another at it

PretjeNL 06-15-2021 06:07 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ianmoone332000 (Post 22874002)
https://chaturbate.com/angelina_new/

If they had banned someone on the site right when this shit started it would never have gotten this bad

This is bad, changing header color and name/sign up button from herself, but can be worse. look on a WL that you have and search for Hannahjames710
She is changing header color AND covering your WL logo with a big banner.
I already reported her 2 times and CB does NOTHING!

ianmoone332000 06-15-2021 06:08 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PretjeNL (Post 22874005)
This is bad, changing header color and name/sign up button from herself, but can be worse. look on a WL that you have and search for Hannahjames710
She is changing header color AND covering your WL logo with a big banner.
I already reported her 2 times and CB does NOTHING!

Yeah though she is telling people to sign out and create a new account under her referral link too. Iv reported her

harpreetxi 06-15-2021 06:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sarettah (Post 22873905)
If I am reading your code correctly and the cam record from the api is in $rr[$first_cam] then this should work:

Instead of this:

<a href="<? echo str_replace('track=default', 'track='.$track.'', $rr[$first_cam]->chat_room_url_revshare); ?>"

You would use this:

<a href="<? echo 'https://mywhitelabel.com/' . $rr[$first_cam]->username . '/?track=' . $track; ?>" target="_blank">

Replace mywhitelabel.com with the domain you are using for your whitelabel. For example, I have a whitelabel at camfoxes.net so I would end up with <a href="<echo 'https://www.camfoxes.net/' . $rr[$first_cam]->username . '/?track=' . $track; ?>"

If we had the model named 'sasha_ursx' then the url coming out of there would be https://www.camfoxes.net/sasha_ursx/.

That make sense?

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Very thank you buddy, worked perfectly.

sarettah 06-15-2021 07:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by harpreetxi (Post 22874407)
Very thank you buddy, worked perfectly.

Glad to hear it. You are quite welcome.

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Speigelau 06-15-2021 09:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ianmoone332000 (Post 22874004)

I do see her signup button on the left of the cam and above it in the header, but I think they'll allow that as long as she isn't incentivizing new signups with false promises and telling them to clear cookies. I did notice that her buttons aren't clickable on a white label.

I've been seeing some models promise 200 free tokens upon signup and I don't see any CB promo that offers that. Also seeing others where their image covers the entire top navigation, so once you click on her cam you have no way to navigate off of it unless you use the back button in your browser.

I feel like a broken record, but it absolutely confounds me why CB continues to give models so much freedom within their bio. It wouldn't take much to install certain controls to limit where models can place code and limit what parts of their cam page they can alter. You can find these controls on just about every other cam platform. I can only imagine how many thousands if not millions of dollars CB has lost to outbound links in model bios where users are taken to OF and personal solo sites and end up spending elsewhere.

ianmoone332000 06-16-2021 01:10 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Speigelau (Post 22874471)
I do see her signup button on the left of the cam and above it in the header, but I think they'll allow that as long as she isn't incentivizing new signups with false promises and telling them to clear cookies. I did notice that her buttons aren't clickable on a white label.

I've been seeing some models promise 200 free tokens upon signup and I don't see any CB promo that offers that. Also seeing others where their image covers the entire top navigation, so once you click on her cam you have no way to navigate off of it unless you use the back button in your browser.

I feel like a broken record, but it absolutely confounds me why CB continues to give models so much freedom within their bio. It wouldn't take much to install certain controls to limit where models can place code and limit what parts of their cam page they can alter. You can find these controls on just about every other cam platform. I can only imagine how many thousands if not millions of dollars CB has lost to outbound links in model bios where users are taken to OF and personal solo sites and end up spending elsewhere.

Im referring to this in her profile thats far worse than covering buttons etc:

https://prnt.sc/15l6rgq

Speigelau 06-16-2021 01:22 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ianmoone332000 (Post 22874537)
Im referring to this in her profile thats far worse than covering buttons etc:

https://prnt.sc/15l6rgq

Ah ok, I didn't read down below. As much as I hate that, it may not violate CB's model terms. She's basically being really transparent by mentioning the 20% and trying to appeal to her fan boys to help her out with a new signup under her link.

sarettah 06-16-2021 04:18 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Speigelau (Post 22874540)
Ah ok, I didn't read down below. As much as I hate that, it may not violate CB's model terms. She's basically being really transparent by mentioning the 20% and trying to appeal to her fan boys to help her out with a new signup under her link.

It is against cb's rules. Chaturbate has been very clear on that. Models are not allowed to tell an existing member to create a new account. Especially the last line there telling them to make the new account using a different browser. That is no different than clear your cookies.

edited in: looks like it is gone from her profile now anyways.

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ianmoone332000 06-16-2021 09:24 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Speigelau (Post 22874540)
Ah ok, I didn't read down below. As much as I hate that, it may not violate CB's model terms. She's basically being really transparent by mentioning the 20% and trying to appeal to her fan boys to help her out with a new signup under her link.

Yeah Sarettah beat me to it. 100% not allowed

ianmoone332000 06-16-2021 01:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sarettah (Post 22874559)
It is against cb's rules. Chaturbate has been very clear on that. Models are not allowed to tell an existing member to create a new account. Especially the last line there telling them to make the new account using a different browser. That is no different than clear your cookies.

edited in: looks like it is gone from her profile now anyways.

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Im still seeing it?. Its pretty close to the beginning of her profile

Speigelau 06-16-2021 02:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sarettah (Post 22874559)
It is against cb's rules. Chaturbate has been very clear on that. Models are not allowed to tell an existing member to create a new account. Especially the last line there telling them to make the new account using a different browser. That is no different than clear your cookies.

edited in: looks like it is gone from her profile now anyways.

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Thanks, I guess I realize that "new" account means an "additional" account and not simply telling a new visitor to make an account if they don't have one. I still see it written at the beginning of the bio.

sarettah 06-16-2021 02:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Speigelau (Post 22874806)
Thanks, I guess I realize that "new" account means an "additional" account and not simply telling a new visitor to make an account if they don't have one. I still see it written at the beginning of the bio.

I am not seeing it :(

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Speigelau 06-16-2021 09:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sarettah (Post 22874815)
I am not seeing it :(

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https://camo.mmcdn.com/a58359ee37853...7037462e706e67

sarettah 06-16-2021 09:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Speigelau (Post 22874981)

Just figured it out. My adblocker is blocking it.

Turned it off and there it was.

Thanks

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ianmoone332000 06-17-2021 08:55 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sarettah (Post 22874984)
Just figured it out. My adblocker is blocking it.

Turned it off and there it was.

Thanks

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Chaturbate replied to me saying they will deal with it.

Yeah Speigelau, models are seeing people spending alot of money so they basically try get them to delete their account and then resign up under her link so she gets the 20%. If thats an affiliate you sent over to Chaturbate, your gonna lose that money to her. We have been fighting it for ever it feels. Chaturbate could change a few things like tying the affiliate to you in other ways than a cookie and it wouldnt matter if they made another account, they would still be yours. Truth is Chaturbate just dont give a shit tbh

oce520 06-17-2021 08:56 AM

https://chaturbate.com/lulacum69/

another stealer, report time!

sarettah 06-17-2021 09:17 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by oce520 (Post 22875122)
https://chaturbate.com/lulacum69/

another stealer, report time!

I'm not seeing anything wrong on that one. She is asking people to sign up under her but she is not encouraging existing users to log out and create a new account.

Models are allowed to try to get sign ups. Her top sign up link even specifies "anonymous users" which would be people not logged into an account.

This text does not really go over the line in my opinion, it comes close but does not tell people to clear cookies or use a new browser and does not necessarilly target existing users.

Quote:

If you like me, and wanna make free gift, please USE THIS referral link for registration. You may stylize your username as K_(username) to join special “Kitty_members".
You will warm my ♥Kitty♥ when I see your name in the chat.
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drexl 06-18-2021 09:39 AM

Xpiya Anti Piracy - Fake DMCA Agent?
 
"Xpiya Anti Piracy" is filing DMCA notices against legit URLs including chaturbate themselves.

They do it on high volume models like sammyfloodxxx

I suspect it is an unscrupulous webmaster forcing the de-indexing of our pages to rank up at our expanse.

Colmike9 06-18-2021 10:10 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sarettah (Post 22875133)
I'm not seeing anything wrong on that one. She is asking people to sign up under her but she is not encouraging existing users to log out and create a new account.

Models are allowed to try to get sign ups. Her top sign up link even specifies "anonymous users" which would be people not logged into an account.

This text does not really go over the line in my opinion, it comes close but does not tell people to clear cookies or use a new browser and does not necessarilly target existing users.



.

They're getting more clever with their ideas, though, and is getting old:

"If you like me, and wanna make free gift, please USE THIS referral link for registration. You may stylize your username as K_(username) to join special “Kitty_members".
You will warm my ♥Kitty♥ when I see your name in the chat."

It's basically telling them to sign up with a new username with a special K_ indicator for her 'kitty members', and is the same as directing to log out and sign up with that username to join her club, except that it isn't completely spelled out for them.

It could go under being 'incentive traffic', but I didn't see anything in the TOS that says not to do that, though..

Shedevils 06-18-2021 10:17 AM

Are the video feeds all down at the moment?

Colmike9 06-18-2021 10:19 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Shedevils (Post 22875729)
Are the feeds all down at the moment?

Seem fine to me. I checked in the promo tools section and loaded an API site with no issues.

Speigelau 06-18-2021 10:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ianmoone332000 (Post 22875121)
Chaturbate replied to me saying they will deal with it.

Yeah Speigelau, models are seeing people spending alot of money so they basically try get them to delete their account and then resign up under her link so she gets the 20%. If thats an affiliate you sent over to Chaturbate, your gonna lose that money to her. We have been fighting it for ever it feels. Chaturbate could change a few things like tying the affiliate to you in other ways than a cookie and it wouldnt matter if they made another account, they would still be yours. Truth is Chaturbate just dont give a shit tbh

Yeah, I know its been an issue and seems like the last 2 years its gotten gradually worse as more and more models become aware of affiliate earnings and how they can get some extra revenue from spenders.

I just looked at my top ten all time CB spenders and they total a little over 700k in spends and only 3 of the 10 are still active, the rest haven't spent in over a year. I can speculate all day as to why those other 7 stopped spending, I'll never know. There's a multitude of possible reasons, but it wouldn't surprise me if one or two ended up ended up being taken away by models. I only promote via white label so there's no outbound
links and I have a better chance of retaining a spender on a re signup attempt.

gar 06-18-2021 10:44 PM

CB should change their affiliate term. Let the model monetize. End of the story.


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