Shoplifter

Absolutely. I would even support the idea that a tracking link would take priority over other methods as the transaction is done. This will never happen as the current system favors the house so much. The only solution I have found is to have a WL as an endpoint, otherwise it's likely you won't get credit for your sales.

PretjeNL

That's what i do, if they click on a cam on one of the Robo sites they go direct to the cam on the whitelabels.

sinmedia

I did exactly the same thing and got 2 whales back to my account along with the explanation that models are not allowed to be affiliates anymore. But this doesn't stop them to use boyfriend/pimp/another account's aff id on their profiles.
The only way to fix this is to report the models, at least the popular ones.

drexl

Thanks both for the feedback.

I have tried WL before when I was looking to solve the ad blocker problem. I switched back to cb because my wl doesn't convert well. I assume because of the domain name and/or design. Given the issue with 3rd party cookies, it looks like it is the way to go though.

Generally speaking, my conversion rate has plummeted while I am still doing good with other programs further illustrating the issue described above. I am wondering if it is worth the effort. That's another discussion.

Colmike9

What if you try a WL, but make it look as much like Chaturbate as you can, the only difference being a domain like chaturbatehd.com or chaturbatefree.com, or even a CB subdomain, that way you'll most likely drop the cookie vs using your regular CB links and it'll look more legit than some random "brand" someone came up with in 4 minutes.
Is that allowed?

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Surfer hesitancy with White Labels is a big problem. Everything has to be top notch to get a sign up.

I have been pretty lucky with being able to maintain an average this year, but the effort and traffic needed to do so is getting to be impossible. If I look at my average as compared to traffic then I am way way down. As well the passive "fire and forget" aspect is falling apart as it takes a lot more hands on effort to keep it going. I know my situation now wont last and I am simplifying my hosting and costs with the thought that this is the last year.

And all of the spenders who do show money seem to disappear very quickly and I am left with six guys spending $10 between them. I haven't done an email to Chaturbate about spenders yet but I am composing it now.

If you have anything else that looks good PM me and I will sign up under you.

Colmike9

Really? Damn, my accounts get about 50-60k/month in spending still and it only gets like 15-30 signups/day.

Maybe it's the competition?

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With CB subdomains if the surfer is already cookied by another affiliate then who gets the sale? I don't know, but I am assuming it's the first cookie.

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What I do is wrap the whitelabel embed in a div and then have a url for the entire div that takes them to chaturbate when they click in

<a href=url_i_want_to_send_to>
<div>
<iframe></iframe>
</div>
</a>

this is the code i use for the floating embeds that i use on camfoxes


This is what I mean by the floating embeds



have been using this schema for years now without issue

please don't tell anybody, cause it's a secret

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emmasexytime

If you use Chaturbate in your domain name will you get banned?

TOS says you will, but not sure if they do ban?

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TurboB

No, if you don't ignore them when they ask to transfer a domain to them.

drexl

I don't think you can do that : brand names are forbidden in domain names and keywords. Some webmasters get fooled because "it works". The thing is sooner or later you will lose your domain, at a very minimum. Look and feel could also be a problem as it can be registered as part of the trademark.

Not trying to be a smart ass, just explaining why I am not going down this road.


In line with the above discussion : are you using cb or a whitelabel? I find it hard to convert with the third party cookie block.

Are you in Bill's top 10 (on cb-stats.com) ? 50k is

I have asked the question before and this might have changed but I was told that subdomain cookies were specific, so if a user is first cookied on xxxx.chaturbate.com and then goes to chaturbate.com he has 2 separate cookies. On a single domain, first cookie wins though.

I'm gonna try that

Colmike9

On cam pages, the links are regular CB revshare ref links, the iframes themselves use a WL.
That's as much as I'm ever going to say about it publicly, though.

It might be in the top 10, I've never used that site before.
It was doing a bit better than 50k/month a few months ago, too, more like 100k+, but it's been going up and down for a while.

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sarettah

you are referring to your webmaster referrals, aren't you? that is what you told me you were getting from chaturbate

because 50k per month in sales is 10k a month in income

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mrmister

Time for me to submit some of my disappearing spenders to chaturbate

How many is an okay amount before it looks like too much work for them. 5-10?

Colmike9

Right. My cut is less.
I did do a bit of the work years ago for the biggest referral, though.. Long story.
My sig isn't to brag, I just want more referrals..

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sarettah

Then Bill's tool would probably not show you much as it is based on the .csv export form chaturbate that shows your revshare users. It doesn't show your referrals.

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Colmike9

True, which is why I haven't used it before. I could tell my best referral to try it out, though, it has 5 figure signups. But what's the advantage of someone using that tool?

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PretjeNL

I have thinking before on something like that, but until now not tried to use.

On one of my sites i had 4 embeded cams trough the Iframe, but every time someone went to that site the 4 cams counted as a hit.

Is it with the DIV also counting as a hit?

sarettah

yep, the iframe counts as a hit and a click through counts as a hit.

i do several things

1. i send all my click throughs through a script that writes the hit to the database so i can keep track of actual click throughs

2. i use a distinct tracking code on each iframe and on each click through so i can keep track in cb's stats

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sarettah

i do not use it but the idea is that you can take a look at your revshare stats (from the csv export) in a formatted, summarized manner so you can see each user and how much they have spent total, that sort of thing

i have my own solution that i use

let's me look at the data like this




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ianmoone332000

Models are not allowed to be affiliates anymore?. Sorry if this has been posted before and i missed it. When did it happen etc?. Can only be a good thing

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sarettah

i had not heard that until it was posted here either

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dUbster

It would be nice if we can get that confirmed by chaturbate support

Cyrano

I use a WL for this reason and chose a generic sounding subdomain, instead of my own domain, with a design that's identical to Chaturbate (whitelabel.chaturbate.com). Works quite well.

ianmoone332000

Would be a bonus if true

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Speigelau

Over the last 6 months I've seen a dramatic reduction in models posting affiliate links in their bio, so I figured something had been implemented. I still see a few of the "sign up here free" images, if the rule is confirmed then it would be easy to report them.

GoCastaway

It's about time that CB is setting rules about links. In my opinion they should forbid all links that go out from CB, because the warning that you get if you click a link in a bio, that you are going to another site in x seconds is bullshit.

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ianmoone332000

Here here. Why in gods name they allow links to Onlyfans etc boggles the mind. Lets send our customers over to a similar niche competitor so they profit and we dont. I think there is more behind the scenes with that one

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sarettah

i do not like the outgoing links or the advertising of other sites in the cam rooms

however, i think that that freedom is what keeps a lot of models on chaturbate

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drexl

I didn't see anything in the terms that says anything like that, on the contrary : "Registered users of the Platform may be eligible to participate in our affiliate advertising program"

From that I understand that webmasters, broadcasters & simple users with a username are all affiliates. The terms have last been updated in August 2022, so nothing has changed in the past 6 months.

Models also have separate terms called "broadcaster agreement"
Note : that is where they agree to grant some rights to cb which in turn grant us a non exclusive licence to use the promo tools.

Speaking of the terms, models aren't allowed to promote onlyfans, fansly, manyvids etc ...
From the terms : "you may not use the Platform to promote or advertise any third-party products, sites, or services that deliver live-streaming content."


That's interesting. Does that mean you are allowed to use the cb logo if you are on a subdomain?

GoCastaway

So, CB doesn't give a shit about that links, or they have shares in Onlyfans etc...

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sarettah

or they are willing to let it go unless it gets obnoxious, who knows?

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GoCastaway

That's the BIG question... And i think we will never get that clear.

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sinmedia

To the best of my knowledge, a few months.

ianmoone332000

Cheers Sin. Wonder if that means its closed for just studios or all models?. Either way its a step in the right direction for us

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ianmoone332000

Ignore double post

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sinmedia

Was thinking about that after i posted. I have to check a normal model account.

Speigelau

Agree with all of these, I've been saying for years that CB should not allow promotion of other programs within their bio, same as most other cam programs. However, I think sarettah is right, they wanted to attract models to their platform who wanted to promote their own site or OF page and this helped them grow their model base.

There is no way to know what the impact was, but I have to believe there was some level of negative impact on revenue to CB as more and more customers spent on camgirls' OF pages instead of CB.

GoCastaway

Me too, at other programs the performers can do nothing with links out of the program.

We lost a lot on OF

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ianmoone332000

Anyone think we will get money into Paxum this week because of holiday delays?

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ianmoone332000

Anyone think we will get money into Paxum this week due to the holidays?

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ianmoone332000

Stupid double post. Anyone paid yet?

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zhenyoung

NO paid yet [paxum]

LustCore

This is a fact for quite a while, sadly.

I recall that I saw on CB or perhaps on a competition that models are not allowed to promote other sites, yet many of them are doing so despite of this rule. Likely that CB and the likes have a blind eye over this due to the revenue that each model can still generate for them. But if this is the case, then why are we not getting paid?
My explanation would be that they are directing new registrations under our aff to their own aff/friends aff link or that CB is not completely honest about the numbers due to whatever reason. Or the combination of both.

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sarettah

Got the note yesterday that it's on its way - ach

Monday was a holiday here in the us so yesterday was the first day back

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gar

Same, holiday I guess

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sarettah

and ACH is in my bank today

that was quick, usually takes a couple of days

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GoCastaway

Both possible, about CB i wrote a while back already something. For hours not a single hit, and then suddenly in 10 minutes a big wave of hits...

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