it's not a bad month actually.

Let's hope so. After resisting doing so for more than a year I have finally sent "the letter" concerning this.

Yeah but what a time consuming headache for both affiliate AND CB support to have to check stats every month and see who you lost and then hope that if they were stolen CB will acknowledge that and then credit them back to you, and then hope they are not stolen again.

And then repeat every quarter or time period etc, (BTW that's IF you can get your spender back).

I'm not saying you don't have valid points Bill, you definitely do. But something's going on for a whole lot of affiliates since last Summer/Fall and maybe talking about it in this thread will expose the problem, that may be CB's fault or may be the affiliate's fault, or maybe it's just economic conditions etc. (i.e. nobodies).

I understand the frustration, but so far, except 1 or 2 persons that have REALLY odd stats, which for me are isolated problem, the average joe working as an affiliate doesnt meet any problem, CF the average revenue stats on my tool.

It's getting better this month. :thumbsup

Yeah. It could also be the down turn in the economy to some extent. People are still traveling and spending money on 'some' items. But overall I'm seeing a tightening beginning, as a response to the inflation and discretionary spending is usually the first to go.

everyone sends in a few of their whales that have moved on but what about those no spenders that become whales after they were stolen ? :(

Exactly!!!

Someone spends 1000$ on a girl and gets stolen you don't give a fuck cause it is only $200 but in the long term he can be a $1 000 000 spender...

Hi Bill, is there a way to get the full list of all new spenders from the beginning, using your tool?

Yep! So i only can repeat: With compliments of the advertising and Bio/link policy from CB...

With all of the traffic leaks, what's a better cam site to promote these days?

My referred accounts have tens of thousands of signups, but spending is about half of what it was about a year ago, but signups have been steady every single day. (Over $2mil in spending now, though, so not terrible.)

Something that works well promoting direct, too, not interested in CPAs at the moment. I want a little project to work on when I'm not in the lab.

Thanks!

are you actively sending traffic to that whitelabel with 10k users? or is it idle?

When promoting cb whitelabels is it more effective to put my affiliate code in the link? ie domainname.com/in/?tour=uhEc&campaign=xxxxf&track=default instead of domainname.com

The data is in the DB, but not working on improving the tool anymore, too costly.

When promoting cb whitelabels, I only promote my domain. That way if something happens like you get banned, you can send your traffic to the next site in a few clicks.

Over the many years, have done very well with CB, and the pandemic blew the lid off my sales. Since the pandemic times have been fading, so have my CB sales. Makes some sense in terms of the stimulus money and now an uncertain economy. I will also be adding Stripcash to the mix of my ads.

What I really want to know - and I admit I've been lazy about this - is how to see if spenders are getting sniped by models or some other way - I don't know how to track this or what patterns to look for. Or how to keep tabs on a Whale. In fact I wasn't even aware of it. I can't see I see anything suspicious per se. Where do I start? And does the CB Stats page provide such insight?

Hello Bill,

I download the csv file without ?limit=100 , but I got an archive with information since October 2021, Do you know how I can get the full archive?

Use cb-stats.com and it will show you your big spenders and when was the last time they spent, if it is has been a while, it will be orange or red, you take that member ID and send request to support to see if that member ID has been phished from you.

Chaturbate CSV only allow up to 10K lines. Whatever happens before those 10K lines, i can't technically get it.

Oh I understand it, thank you Bill

Have you considered charging for access to your tool? in order to continue having it updated and with improvements. I think many of us would be willing to pay a monthly fee to be able to use it

First time that I can see a negative spending, so my revenue for this period all of a sudden turned to negative. Any insights on this? Was is a chargeback and for the next cycle instead of 0 I have to start from the negative value for revenue?

look at your stats file (.csv) and you should be able to see the negative transactions.

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To be honest I did, but project stopped halfway through. Developer couldnt bother continuing (I was paying by the hour so no problem on incentive) - took a lot of ressources, and considering only 5 or 6 people would pay a 15$ fee a month, wasnt worth my time in the end.

Hi all,

I have a question...

When i look to my stats on CB on campaign i see a lot of hits on "default". I wonder where these are comming from because all my sites/banners etc are linking to one of the whitelabels.

Can someone explain where these hits come from?

https://i.imgur.com/P26mG9H.jpg

see default in your tracking code e.g. track=default you can change the word default to whatever you want to track your links :thumbsup
https://chaturbate.com/in/?tour=goZq...&track=default

Thanks, i already thought about that.

I use 2 scripts, one off them is Robo (still works fine) and in Robo i have set the tracking code. on the same site i get hits under the traking code, but in one off the files, online_1.xml it's generating default, so i don't understand where that's comming from.

Thanks! Does the site only track from when you start using it, or does it backdate my stats?

I have like 1500 hits daily with around 200 people signing monthly.

To be honest I don't push it that much as the spending on the WL isn't identical to the spending of the people I have referred to the website itself (Using the aff links)

What is the other non robo one you use please?

Robo is great. But will break one day :Oh crap

I dont know if you guys are aware, I guess no because I see many big websites using this embed cam only ad and if you look you can see that the campaign id tag is present in their code but when you click on the iframe you are send to chaturbate.com without any tag/param campaign, which mean that if you dont send on your whitelabel you are sending traffic for free.

https://imgur.com/a/GK1y2lc
https://i.imgur.com/DQmglrv.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/Or4suh0.jpg


I am talking about the Embed Cam > Cam Only, you can check by yourself here https://chaturbate.com/affiliates/pr...e_embed_video/

The second script is WP Chaturbate from former Sexplugins, and is also still working fine.
But also in this script i set the tracking name. From both scripts i also get different numbers on "tracking code" and "campaign".

I am sure that on every site i have the tracking code is set.

I use these all over my biggest site. It's a tube site, and they live on the video view page (thousands of the same page). These iframes are earning sales with the two tracking codes (I use two small embed cam only windows on top of each other). The user can click anywhere in the window. However the very issue you bring up is concerning, and I have had some real disparities with the traffic in my stats and the sales that should be there. I'll get back to this in the thread at some point after more investigation.

I did bring this very issue up with Chatb support last year, pointing out that the code has the referrer ID but the URL doesn't. They claim that it's working fine - and well I do have sales for that traffic.

However I noticed I used the same code with a slight change on my front page - and a different tracking code - and NO SALES. the FRONT page. I get traffic. I compared and made a change. If that works I'll report back.

Furthermore - I also use the interactive embed code iframe- and while you can't click the cam screen - it gets the most sales out of any of the other ads. On the same video view page, this iframe lives on the bottom - and it has a different tracking code and NO SALES. But the traffic numbers are almost as high to the iframes that get SALES - that is the same iframe type (interactive) which appears on the other main pages but less trafficked like Categories, Users, Search.

That is to say the page (video view) where the users are on the longest and the most - is sending about the about 2/3 of traffic - as the other 5 or so pages combined with the same iframe. Here are the stats:

My YTD sales between these two tracking codes

• Tracking Raw Unique Sales Payout
• embed 7283351 4437477 $47923.48 $9584.70
• oldembed 4275758 2632794 $401.95 $80.39
  
• By comparison a fairly low traffic site - I use the same interactive iframe :
• embedagr 33293 22259 $339.93 $67.99

embed= the interactive iframe on most pages
oldembed = the video view page with same iframe

Needless to say I compared some more and made some changes to the iframe with no sales. There's really only one little code difference I found.

If this changes I'll report back

So a little update...

Chaturbate is really funny...

I send an email with 24 accounts to take a look at...

I receive an answer 14 days later saying 2 account have created new ID`s and now they are returned under my aff ID.

2 days later I receive another email claiming 3 accounts have created new ID`s and now they are under my aff ID.

My two biggest spenders are gone (in a matter of like 30 days) and I wanted a separate check up on them, because I know their username on some websites and see they are still active daily so I doubt they stopped spending at the same time, still waiting for an answer about them

I'm curious about how to know the spenders username, because in Cb stats we can see only the User ID, User UID and the Country ?!?
Any trick to have that information, cause I also wanted to know the username of my biggest spenders ?

I literally sent CB support 16 spenders to look to see if they had signed up under a new account. Just heard back and they reinstated 6 big spenders! Not only that they added a significant amount to my payout! Been with CB 12 years this is the best adult affiliate company in my opinion. So this is a shout out to CB Thank You so much!! Siteman.

You sent them a list of 16 spenders and they gave you back 6, ok it sound nice but you probably lost hundred of small spenders that you never noticed and its even possible that some of them became a whale.

I dont think calling them "the best adult affiliate company" is helping us as affiliates.

AT this point promoting Chaturbate is useless, what the point of lifetime rev share, if they keep stealing your spenders.

Stripcash is far better.

What is the best way to promote Stripchat/Stripcash?

Thats what we call CPM !


What makes you think they won't run away with your spenders as soon
as they have most of them?

Greetings Beaver

They found that only 6 had signed under another subscriber out of the 16. This is my opinion. I have had great results with CB and CB Support.

do u know by using that plugin u send an amount of traffic to his ref code? he makes money with your traffic. fuck that plugin and remove it.

yup, they are the best in your opinion. having to contact them every time you feel a model steal from you doesn't sound like the best for me.

if you look at this thread, I think this is the worst company in the industry, there was no cam program with so many complaints, at least since 2007 when I started promoting cams.

I don't send a single hit to his ref code, i replaced his ref code for mine and made more modifications :thumbsup

:thumbsup:thumbsup

Thnx! It really works good, there are only 2 thing that i am trying to accomplish but not getting to work yet. I want a "age" selector and a "load more" button instead of the pager.
Tried different options but not working :(

I got my lost spender response in a few days, including over the long weekend.
that's the only good news.

"After reviewing the accounts you’ve highlighted, we’ve been able to determine that 1 of these users created a new account under a different referral URL."

I had sent 16 User IDs - all unspent from 100-400 days out - total rev from each ranged from $300-$8000

Total adjustment? $4.20

The universe is laughing at me. And smoking a joint. And blowing the smoke in my face.

I'm sooooo fucking disappointed.

A couple years ago I was averaging around $6000/month

Here's this period's 2 wk stats $1956.15
https://imgur.com/9TvKb5V

and stats from about a year ago $3191.04 (2 wks)
https://imgur.com/gaMY9EC

And two years ago looked more like this
https://imgur.com/MC4LpFX $3577.92 (2 wks)

Been an affiliate for - idk maybe a decade. I'm going to meticulously send them over every yellow or red User ID that I haven't sent already. I expect about $nothing but I'll do it anyhow.

same here

im a larger affiliate than you and there's been a huge drop off since last may and it's continuing on a downwards trend - very similar to the trend that you're reporting so about earning half as much as I have in the X amount of previous years

our large spenders just leaving with no trace

i understand a lot has changed post pandemic but still very difficult to adjust

just glad i decided to diversify with other programs as it's alleviating the blow a bit

Yeah, this is happening to too many affiliates for it to be a coincidence.

My other programs that I've been with for just as long are holding steady so something doesn't add up.