PornGrowsOnTrees

How do you access stats that look like that? I can't see how many buyers I have. Still 0.00 for me today. Last period was 130-620 everyday. Multiple people. See what happens later on...

PornGrowsOnTrees

One of my whales came back just now finally! Maybe some took a break... ;) Now I hope I can get some more people since I'm getting around double the amount of traffic (quality).

How is everyone else doing tonight?

heiko0o

Saturday : 3,99$
Sunday : 8,00$

lmao,ridiculous

sarettah

You can get that info from the .csv file download in the dashboard. The userid identifies the buyer, also in there is the signup date, the date and time of the transaction, what coountry they are from, the amount of the transaction. Good stuff to look at.

CSV file header record:
Timestamp, User ID, Purchase Amount, Commission, Track, Signup Date, Country

Timestamp is the time of the transaction.

You can open the .csv file in pretty much any spreadsheet program or dump it into a database like I do. I dump it into the database and then pull the data via sql calls to summarize it all up.

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ianmoone332000

Is it possible that models are just stealing from affiliates and not chaturbate?. What i mean is this. Maybe whales who are on the site that did not come via an affiliate are different. Maybe even if a model gets them to create a new account under their affiliate link then chaturbate has done something to make sure the user is tied to them no matter how many new accounts they make. Then they just do not do this for affiliates we sent and the models can then get our whales signing up under their link to steal ours only. No company allows employees to take an extra 20% out of their earnigs. It just doesnt happen

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OneMillionGirls

i have two big chargebacks in this period. i can cry :/

Month March, i will try out MFC.

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drexl

A whitelabel (also called "co-brand") is a nice way to use an underlying platform with your website branding, look and feel. However there are a few issues on CB's wl:

Page Title
On mobile it shows "<username> at Chaturbate" instead of "<username> at <whitelabel>".
This is definitely a bug, at best it is inconsistent with the desktop version.

Support Link
If you click on "Support" it goes to support.chaturbate.com (LEAK!)
Very visible on mobile, it is in the main navigation menu

It is a bug because it is inconsistent with the desktop version that opens an email to : "[email protected]"

Copyright
It show chaturbate.com, prominently at the bottom.

Affiliate Program Link
Chaturbate.com

In-Video Watermark
Chaturbate logo

Meta Info
When sharing a link to your page in social media, a BIG Chaturbate image shows up:



Can someone at Chaturbate please send these to your dev team,
It is difficult to brand the whitelabel if the word Chaturbate shows up everywhere.

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PornGrowsOnTrees

Hope chaturbate reads that and implements all that - another thing is promo emails when user signs up should say your whitelabel & logo instead of cb - other whitelabels do this aready for branding

zhenyoung

@PornGrowsOnTrees

16-25,every day is 0.00???

All the buyers left together???? I don't think it possible.

PornGrowsOnTrees

yeah they all left for 5 days. Which is weird since I monitor stats for over a year and this never happend. But all of a sudden one came back at least.

hopefully the others come back. I was afraid those models or something stole the sales. still nothing like before yet. I have a ton more "free" signups from traffic though so hopefully I get some new ones. :-)...

oce520

Have any of you tried contact Shelly about the traffic leaking issue with models? I read somewhere she used to be our contact before Steve

charlie g

I have recently stopped sending traffic to CB because sales have slipped, along with free signups. I took a look to see why and it seems all the top rooms have overlays with their aff # and special links to signup folks. I am guessing these model links are over-writing my affiliate code. It was good while it lasted I guess.

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AllAboutCams

Mine is garbage this period

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drexl

You are correct there is a serious issue with those prominent affiliate links planted their on the chaturbate site. It is like shooting fish in a barrel! for them.

Everyone is an affiliate on Chaturbate: webmasters, studios, models, room moderators and even cb staff. Imagine the conflicts of interests! And that's just the visible part, I don't even want to think about what inside engineers can do.

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TheBlackShark

The worst period (since 2017).. started to send less traffic to CB, i hope something will to change soon.

Shedevils

Third day of 0.00 for me. Never before.

Well wow, is it over?

PornGrowsOnTrees

I had something yesterday so far today: $0.00 my previous periods from 2018 have VERY little $0.00. See what happens later.

ianmoone332000

Snap. 3rd zero day for me too. We are officially being phased out the affiliate program now

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ianmoone332000

Someone who knows more about this stuff should really go through chaturbates terms. Check this part out:

Invalid Referrals. You acknowledge and agree that you shall not be entitled to any compensation from the Site for any referral if the Site determines or believes, in the Site’s sole discretion, that such referral is the result of possibly fraudulent activity or any violation of this Agreement.

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GoCastaway

6 days 0.00

What the f*ck is going on?????

pornuploader

Sounds like since Bernie Sanders announced that, he is running for president, everything has gone to shit.

PornGrowsOnTrees

0$ still for me last period 150-600 a day! I just had around 30 new free signups but no spenders yet. hopefully rumpelstiltskin turns the shit into golden nuggets and things blow up for us all ! Just crazy how low things are for us all. I almost did as good as the first week of starting my whitelabel. Makes no sense

heiko0o

well im not trying to make up any theory here but check this out;

We all are affiliates for over 1-2 even 3-5 years on CB. So far we always had a good payout and almonst none to no 0,00$ days. Suddenly everyone experiencing this and not just for 1 day, but maybe even 2, 3 or 4 days in a row. There must be something going on, i can't explain it otherwise? An on top of that, Chaturbate probably knows whats going on, they just don't want to share it.. great way to make your affiliates run from you..


BTW; Today is another 0,00$ day here

MFCT

Still swimming in a sea of zeros.

At least I'm not alone.

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AllAboutCams

I don't have $0 days but its still really low 1/3rd of last period

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razor33

Weirdly enough, me neither. Strange, because i used to have a few in every period. Average earnings for me. Outta fuckin nowhere an active broadcaster appeared too worth $50. I promoted Chaturbate last in 2016.

oce520

i havent had any 0 since 2017, but my earning is about 40% down compare to 09/2018 - 11/2018 even tho my signups per day has increased, before december, my earning were always on the increase.

Beaver1

My sales are back since 10 days (after pulling the codes).
Before 6 weeks nearly nothing.

Best Regards

doeser

https://chaturbate.com/pixiepixelized/

floating banner in the middle, wow, this should not be OK.

alexistexasass

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PornGrowsOnTrees

$0 so far today. I wish it was some kind of glitch! Day is still young, hope things turn around for us.

ianmoone332000

Someone said mindgeek is sending chaturbate traffic. Maybe if they were aware of all this nonsense models are doing things would change very quickly...

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ianmoone332000

Reported them thanks

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AllAboutCams

Anyone send Steve an email to see whats happening?

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MFCT

PM begging.

Have you noticed it lately in models' rooms? Its now incessant from the start of many model's show till the end. And usually, from guest or basics who don't even have tokens.

The presumption is these guests/basics are wanting to negotiate a private show in pm. And since they don't have tokens, one assumes they're scammers trying to trick models into doing free private shows.

We can't know what goes on in pm. But perhaps, instead of trying to trick the models, these people are offering to build free, professional-looking themes for models' home pages.

And who knows, I'm openly speculating here, but maybe hackers have come up with some blackhat method that theme-builders are putting into those custom themes. Something new no one knows about or is aware of.

Perhaps the end result is: your signups are still spending normally. But due to these hacker methods, your sales are no longer being credited to you but to someone else. You're none the wiser, except you're now swimming in a sea of zeros with a big question mark over your head, while someone else is retiring early.

Isn't that precisely the kind of thing hackers would do?

Again, just speculating and thinking aloud here. Maybe someone more knowledgeable could say whether I'm just talking out my ass. Or if something like this could be theoretically possible.

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Pugtato

Well at the very least, they could investigate if the people that lost whales re-registered under a new account and how they did it/with what affiliate links. That could uncover a pattern that would solve a lot of problems (if it is indeed the case).

MFCT

Pugtato, agreed. Hopefully an investigation is currently underway.

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ianmoone332000

Its the lack of replies that is worrying. Nothing from Steve or the site support

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PornGrowsOnTrees

Still $0.00 for me again usually for the previous year and even month I was at $50-150 AT LEAST and around $200-400 more at night. Never had such bad stats since I started marketing in the early 2000's.

MFCT

Agreed. Although perhaps if this is something that's under investigation, he probably wouldn't be at liberty to discuss it or mention anything about it.

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oce520

He stopped responding emails for a while now I think, ever since me and couple of the members sent him email about clarachan and some other models who are stealing from us

MFCT

I was researching about modifying model profiles and adding custom themes. Not that I'm interested in doing it. I'm just trying to find out exactly what can be done. The info out there is a bit sparse.

It seems the HTML for profile pages can be edited, modified, and customized. This is a great thing for allowing models to make their profiles unique. But can scripts also be added, or sneaked into the HTML?

The reason I ask is: chaturbate.com sets cookies. Now if someone were to load a customized model profile with an added sneaky script, could this script potentially overwrite pre-existing cookies with an entirely different set of cookies? And/or potentially alter the expire time of pre-existing cookies to "Now", causing the browser to immediately delete them?

I suppose the browser would allow these scripts to execute without throwing a red flag, since these requested actions are coming from the same domain that set the original cookies.

I'm just guessing here because I know nothing about it and could be completely wrong (and probably am). But I thought I'd throw this out there for discussion. Hopefully someone who knows better can correct me.

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drexl

What you are saying is interesting. Thanks for bringing this up.
Coincidently, I was looking into this before I saw your post here on gfy!

Models (or someone on their behalf) can indeed write javascript (or reuse existing code) that will be executed at runtime when they broadcast

This is open source and I don't see any "cookie" manipulation, though they can obfuscate the code. I would also imagine cb would filter out such code but who knows.

I believe you have a point and it is good to see the discussion broadening but our answers might be simpler:

It seems it is in Chaturbate's interests to encourage customers to move to chaturbate.com and away from your domain: after all, revenue they make off ads is lost on whitelabels.

That would explain why they are not in a rush to fix the bugs I mentioned related to the co-branding and that also answers all our questions: why isn't Chaturbate doing anything about models enticing members to join cb through their links: of course it is fraudulent but only webmasters lose. Chaturbate, models and all who participate in their game are winners.
(Oh and if you don't use whitelabels, then clara will take care of your whales )

In case you are wondering why they produced a whitelabel platform in the first place: everytime you push traffic to your whitelabel, Google is seeing it as "traffic to chaturbate.com" because of the canonical URL. You do the SEO for them. And then the leaks do the rest.


I think the biggest concern we have is:
- conflict of interests.
Models know the whales, and they can reach out to them easily (which is why we need a robust system and known workflow)
+ Everyone is an affiliate: webmasters, room moderators, studio, brocasters, possibly staff


other concerns:
- we don't know for sure the workflow (binding by username only or by user?, cross domain cookie rule, ..)
- we don't know if a previous workflow has been modified, who would proactively tell us
- no communication with customer service
- we were told to report models who planted their links on the site, specifically overlays. Nothing is done
- bugs / poor branding on mobile

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I made $12.60 yesterday that stopped a run of five $0.00 days

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drexl

I feel the same. I value customer service a lot, specifically technical accuracy, courtesy and speedy responses. I normally keep away from companies that don't have easy access customer service but cb was an exception I guess since the earnings and the platform were good.

They don't even reply to emails sent. Maybe their backlog is so big they don't have enough staff to reply but then why sending a survey out.

It's humiliating to be ignored.

Another thing is maybe they feel like they already answered.

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My experiences with them has been very good when iv needed answers/help. Total radio silence on these recent issues is concerning though

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drexl

They feel like they already answered. The answer was: write to support.

They don't want to stop this for the reasons I mentioned: models help them move customers to the cb domain where their ad slots are located.

This is just 1 reason

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ianmoone332000

If they did confirm this was the case then we could at least say go ahead and hardcode the ads into all whitelabels. As long as they ban all these overlays and models trying to get people to delete accounts and sign up under their links

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ianmoone332000

Ok i got a reply from chaturbate about this model i complained about:

https://chaturbate.com/pixiepixelized/

She has removed the overlay she had at the top. They also asked if i knew of other models doing shady stuff so if anyone knows models doing it, post them here and il get a list to send to them. First model on the list will be her:

https://chaturbate.com/clara_chan/

Get listing folks

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drexl

From previous post: https://gfy.com/22413454-post1560.html

I don't think this is efficient nor exhaustive. But here's a list:

https://chaturbate.com/sophydiva/

https://chaturbate.com/sweetmila1/

https://chaturbate.com/elisadeathnaked/

https://chaturbate.com/sammyfloodxxx/

https://chaturbate.com/siswet19/

https://chaturbate.com/natyprecious/

https://chaturbate.com/clara_chan/
(with prominent enticement and instructions to create a new username which 90% of her followers have complied with judging by the usernames in her chatroom (prepended with "c_"). They should be reassigned to their original webmaster if you ask me with backdating of earnings.)

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