bill_musk

Commissions for those 58 accounts.

I believe the last column is the transaction UID, as for User ID, havent checked, how would that even be possible, since an UID is attached to an account?

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drexl

If the last column is a transaction UID then my comment is irrelevant.

But if "User UID" stands for "User Unique ID" then it would be possible to see a 1-n (1 to many) relationship between unique IDs and IDs.
It is my understanding that an affiliate is not bound to a user unique ID but rather to a username (a user can have several usernames), so movement of users could be demonstrated with your data if 1 UID shows up for more than 1 affiliates. Though 58 users is probably not enough and I think those user movements are caused by broadcasters with leaking affiliate links and you might not have those in your data sample.

That is useful, thanks for sharing.


EDIT: I don't think the last column is a transaction ID because each value would be unique. This is not the case.

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bill_musk

Right this is a User UUID, and I don't save it in my tool, so can't know for sure

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drexl

Yes it is. It's good to know.
If CB wanted to they could potentially link an affiliate to the UID to eradicate commissions theft. It is also good to know for data analysis.

One comment I have is that an average trend doesn't necessarily mean everything is fine: you could make sales from new customers and lose old customers to leaks in broadcasters bio for example. Meaning you should make more commissions which you are entitled to but you don't know it.

Eventually losing it all when sales reach a saturation point.

I would certainly hope the trending line goes up overtime if the incoming traffic remains steady in volume and quality (adding more paying customers and catching whales along the way).

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GoCastaway

CB hits today dramaticly down......

Speigelau

This is what I experienced also, the last few days of the period brought it from a slower than normal to finishing about 20% above normal. The number of spends didn't really increase, but the average spend amount did.

I'm wondering if the trend will continue with so many people not working and spending time at home online because of the Corona scare. I think the huge increase in online time should at least mean traffic and registration numbers up, and ultimately higher revenue. Conversely, the loss of many people's incomes could potentially be the downside, with some spenders not having any discretionary income to blow on cams.

Mohawk Steve

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Speigelau

Uh oh, looks like Steve is now working for the competitor. Congrats on the new gig, but this is a CB thread.

AzteK

Right, kinda cheap and tacky attempt of his...

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heiko0o

Am i the only one wondering why he changed from CB to Cams.com?

zhenyoung

Have you received the payment?

Andreweb

Nope, I haven't received mine on Paxum! But they have 7 days to deliver it!

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Beaver1

At least he finds the business threads he should be in during his old job,
after CB kicked his ass through the door .

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Beaver1

To much own cookie stuffing campaigns.

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ianmoone332000

Iv done well with Chaturbate but with all the traffic leaks & models stealing years of peoples hard work, it would be silly to not start sending some traffic elsewhere. Truth is if they really cared about affiliates then the second this "clear cookies & create a new account just for me" bullshit happened they would have stopped it. Is it 2 years now we have been reporting it?. Actually stop and really think about how serious a problem that is. How much money and time has been spent by the whole adult industry sending people to chaturbate and its left to us to report models doing it to them? My earnings the past 2 months have went to shit and it could be the corona virus effecting things. Any time i feel like im hitting a nice regular income with them, something happens and things go to shit and this has been happening long before any virus. I know some of yous will still be raking it in with chaturbate but for me personally, im at the conclusion they will prioritise models over affiliates every time. Even when that involves them stealing our earnings

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Brian mike

Cams.com ? Is that the company that use streamate WL?
I have absolutely no luck with Streamate since the last 4+ years income for me = 0

drexl

cams.com is streamray

streamate.com is a different sponsor I think and their models aren't the same. Their sites require users to enter credit card information to join, which can explain your low conversion rate.

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drexl

Same here, not yet received but there's time.

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Brian mike

find some info about it ( I should have search google first lol ) i find a post from a model on ambercutie
Cams.com emailed me back and said: "When you come to work for us, you will be working for cams.com. Cams.com also leases itself out to provide live model chat services to Adult Friend Finder and Alt.com websites as well."

got it..... Is cams.com work the same way for sign up ?
Sorry guys for all those newb question

drexl

No credit card needed to signup with cams afaik

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CourtneyR_FFN

Cams.com does not require CC for sign up. Let me know if you have any Cams.com or AFF questions

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xxx6live

You were thinking about cambuilder, they are the streamate whitelabels.

Brian mike

Will do if i need help thx Courtney ! Your my account manager on my AFF account

Got it

Shoplifter

Is there an API?

The ability to integrate into my network would be the only issue.

PornGrowsOnTrees

Everything is down for me this week. And other sites. I do see more traffic and free leads.

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Brian mike

Just got Paxum payment form CB few minutes ago

sarettah

Just got hit with a major chargeback Spender since 2015, has spent across all 5 years. Just charged back the past few months to the tune of near to $5k. I lost almost $1000 in commissions.

Sucks big time.

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cybermike

Sorry man.. guessing he got desperate.. desperate times

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GoCastaway

Almost 2 weeks ago a good spender of me (around 2.5 - 3K a month) did a chargeback and after this i didnt see him anymore, i am so pissed off...

sarettah

Once they chargeback their account is canceled I think. They can do a refund for a mistake type thing but if they call in and say they didn't make thhose charges, etc, they are canceled and I think technically not allowed to sign up again. Don't quote me on that, it is just my understanding.

So, yeah, if you have a whale and then that whale charges back you have no0w lost your whale.

Sucks, but at least I understand why that would be.

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CourtneyR_FFN

we do have API to populate your site with cams.com models, and a coreg API for dating.

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Goethe

Can this be added to roboscripts?

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Speigelau

Wow, that's brutal, sorry to hear that. Makes you wonder what he said to get that many chargebacks approved and if the current Corona situation caused him financial hardship and this was his way of trying to recover some money.

Speigelau

This was my thinking also, but something recently made me think otherwise. Last summer I had a whale who had spent over 70k. He routinely spent $500-1000 weekly and always made the max $320 purchase. All of a sudden last June there was a chargeback for him for one $320 purchase. Then nothing after that and I figured his account was canceled.

Recently I noticed his account # had a recent spend using the enhanced stats provided by Tayax. Upon further inspection I noticed that account had been billed the $20/month CB upgrade membership fee monthly for the last 8 months. So it seems the member was most likely cut off from making additional spends, but somehow his account and credit card are still active to continue to be billed monthly by CB. I'm assuming the member probably doesn't even realize the charges are happening.

It makes me wonder on a whale like that what made him chargeback that spend after making hundreds of them. Probably one model that pissed him off in a private or maybe he mistakenly tipped the wrong amount and contacted CB, who knows.

Chargebacks are painful, but what makes it even more painful is that the member no longer spends with you after that. In my experience whales are addicted to cams and if they can't spend with you, they are going to easily find another site to spend on, they don't just stop.

sarettah

Yep.

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heiko0o

Unfortunately i have to agree with you here, even tho i don't like to. It also seems like, that the more traffic i try to generate and send to my WL's the lesser revenue i get. 2019 was bad, mid 2019 i started to send a lot of traffic to CB again and actually thought that it would get better in 2020. But it seems like, the longer i am staying, the less the revenue becomes. March was actually now the worst month i ever had since promoting CB for 4 years now. And i've been promoting it very heavily in the last 3-5 months. - And like you said, its not about getting less money. But it's about time investment and what you actually get out of it. At this point, if it continues like that, i don't see any reason to continue promoting it as well, as there is stuff out there, that will make me more money with less time invested.

I wish we could block out signatures or they would implement something so that new registrations are still associated to the referred affiliate. I don't understand why they don't care for their webmaster affiliates. When i check the front page the webcams all have signatures with "Create new account" text's in them. I mean sure, CB doesn't lose as they will still get their money but they really should think about taking more care for their webmasters as i don't think a lot of people will tolerate it more longer when their revenue is going down the shitter. Mine decreased -80% if i compare it to 2 years ago.

oce520

look like the world might be going into another financial crisis with whats going on with the US stock market recently, how much do you think it would affect our us?

GoCastaway

I totally agree with you, with some database rules and queries they can establish that, and also set the registrations back to the affiliate that brought them in.

Out of that it's about time that CB is going to refresh the GUI, when you look to other camsites CB is outdated.

cams.com looks good, but there are not so many models, and what i can find they only pay by check

Speigelau

Here Steve, your first order of business, please suspend this cams.com affiliate who is massing spamming CB chat.

"433𝚜𝚎𝚡.𝚌𝚘𝚖 - Tʜɪs ᴡᴇʙsɪᴛᴇ ɪs ᴡᴀʏ ʙᴇᴛᴛᴇʀ ᴛʜᴀɴ ᴄʜᴀᴛᴜʀʙᴀᴛᴇ ᴀɴᴅ ɪᴛs ғʀᴇᴇ ᴡɪᴛʜ ᴍɪʟʟɪᴏɴs ᴏғ ᴍᴇᴍʙᴇʀs.ɪ ᴊᴜsᴛ ᴡᴀɴᴛᴇᴅ ᴛᴏ sʜᴀʀᴇ ɪᴛ ᴡɪᴛʜ ʏᴏᴜ, ɪᴛs ᴛʜᴇ ʟᴀʀɢᴇsᴛ ғʀᴇᴇ ᴡᴇʙsɪᴛᴇ ɪɴ ʏᴏᴜʀ ᴀʀᴇᴀ ᴛᴏ ᴍᴇᴇᴛ ᴘᴇᴏᴘʟᴇ ᴀɴᴅ ᴡᴀᴛᴄʜ ʟɪᴠᴇ sʜᴏᴡs.."

Speigelau

Here we go, I knew it wouldn't take long.

https://chaturbate.com/coronavirusxxx/

Says she is in China of all places.

Brand new and already has over 10k in her room, simply because of the name.

GoCastaway

Already banned

drexl

What are roboscripts requirements?

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Speigelau

Nice, looks like the members spoke with the report button.

Goethe

If you mean technical, no idea. In the roboscripts admin panel you can select which site to pull models from. IIRC cams.com is not an option. Just wondering if it’s in the works.

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drexl

Ah yes thanks, that's what I meant. I was genuinely interested in what "roboscripts" is and was trying to help CourtneyR_FFN answer the question.

From what you said it looks like the roboscripts developer has to implement a function to parse cams.com specific feed. TBC.

Of course I guessed that roboscripts is a cam aggregator but I haven't used it. I am a programmer myself, I did custom cam aggegation for my Mechbunny tubes.

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lockept93

Is this chargeback problem only a thing on Chaturbate or is it everywhere?
Why is that possible to get back the spending money?

Can someone explain? I'm not so long into this.

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drexl

This is not specific to cb, or even to cam sites. It happens when a consumer claims to have never received the goods/service as promised at the time of purchase.

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