I'm crying :1orglaugh, I've seen some weird stuff but this has to take the cake lmao.

If u there 15 years and have that perfect domain, it's a big big mess to be such a "noname" in the buisness.
Sry, but I totally understand why newer cam sites have more success than cams.com.

I don't want rage on cams.com, It's fine for me and they can have their concept. I just say that this way of thinking about your partners that bring u the traffic is not the way I like and many affiliates too.

If they don't want me - they do everything right. I now joined an other program.

The fact that you think they are "noname" in the cam business tells us all that you are brand new to it. Eventually you will have to supply your tax info to every program you join, assuming you have earnings.

did you call streamray/cams network a no-name? they are probably the biggest network out there
Asking for tax/business info is nothing unusual and even required by law in some countries. It should take you 1 minute to fill out

ähmmm no, I have used many affiliate programs and most of them do not force me give THEM my tax informations.
I have to pay my taxes in my country by myself and only if my taxes will be paid by a third party they need to have that informations. Is cams.com paying my taxes?



I'm talking about cams.com.
And u don't understand the problem - it's about forcing me for informations I don't want (and don't have to) share.
If u are a company in the US and want to cooperate with a production firm in China for example - do you force them to give u there tax informations?`
Why does it matter for you? For what did u need it?

Also can u explain why chaturbate don't do this?

cams.com is streamray, and you should ask chaturbate why they don't require a w8 form or how their business is set up. Again it's perfectly normal when doing business with a United states company to fill out tax/exemption info and required by law in many cases before they can pay you.

Then I'm happy that there are not only US companies out there.
It makes no sense to discuss more about it. If you're happy with that, it's fine.
All I say is that THIS is the point why I'm not working WITH cams.com.

Anyone on here caught the corona virus? just curious

I'm getting more free signups but revenue is down...
:BangBang:corona virus

The best off topic question of the year :winkwink:

Well, I do not know any member that has it.

Droped like a med

https://chaturbate.com/tequilalala/
https://chaturbate.com/ehotlovea/
https://chaturbate.com/naughtyelle/
https://chaturbate.com/emersoncane/
https://chaturbate.com/clara_chan/
https://chaturbate.com/sweet_ary/

My reported hit list this morning. Check the bio of that emersoncane one lol

I just checked them out, but only naughtyelle was online and nothing special on her page. Is it me or did CB removed all the overlays and css from the models? I dont see anything anymore, even not at Siswet's page

I don't see the overlays (good!) and the links don't go to a 30s pause before redirecting to destination. The latter could be a problem.
Example : https://chaturbate.com/ehotlovea/ & her link "Just click here and create new account for free".

This could be temporary, maybe a transient issue.

CB can better keep it that way, no BS and other anoying things anymore :)

This is on Naughtyelles bio:

if you like to support me, you can create a new account by clicking on this link, and every time you buy tokens, i will have a little bonus from CB. You will have the same ammount of tokens at the same price and it doesn't matter if you spend them in my room or another room.
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-please clear all your cookies before creating a new account

You are right, just checked again and think i was a bit sleepy or so last time, the pages i checked where not on bio but "more rooms like this", my bad.... :Oh crap

+ chaturbate.com/perfectview/

Enticing to register with a new nick for a 200 tokens gift and 20% discount

This is not affiliate marketing to bring in traffic, rather this is fishing in a barrel. Imagine what they tell customers in private and/or social media

That affects all affiliates (and cb themselves), not just webmasters.

they are totally screwing up everything, i have lost almost 50% of my spenders to that stealing models :mad:

Only way to go is changing now. I don't think they will ever lern it when everybody is continue promoting them. :2 cents:

Reported 'em all. Thanks for sharing:thumbsup

+ https://chaturbate.com/heyhorny_cb/

She moved her banner that was covering the main site logo near the Sign Up button.

Notice the message: "PLEASE, ADD A "HH_" TO YOUR NEW USER NAME!"

She is clearly enticing to create a new username thus reassigning some affiliate earnings.

This is done with inline CSS too: only CB can do something about this.

:2 cents:
:321GFY

Nobody talks to ruth about this on ambercutie forum?

Iv spoke to her over there a couple of times. Probably the reason we were finally able to get
that siswet to stop stealing

Conversion Ratio
 

My conversion rate is 0.5% on average. Meaning I need to send 200 UV to have 1 free sign up.

Is it good, average, bad?

What's yours?

chaturbate.com/perfectview still has her stealing banner up

Mine right now is 1:150 my traffic is 100% organic, which means we have a similar conversion rate. I don't know if this is average, good or bad but mine is like this in years. Only on the first 3 - 4 years conversion rate was higher like 1:30 or so!

Congrats bro

Cool, that's interesting!

Good list!

Clara Chan is a repeat offender. Although cb, for some reasons, insists affiliate links are allowed on the site itself, she is in breach when she asks members to create a new username in her bio. (HeyHorny_cb is the same).

I see she now has a banner that takes 100% of the screen so you really can't miss it and the list of c_ members is growing.

=> affiliate links are for bringing in traffic! Planting links on the destination site is not affiliate marketing.

damn right!. It's called "stealing"

have any of you got an respond from cb yet after the report??

I reported heyhorny_cb who's fishing net was covering the main site logo with 2 layers (ah sure why not...). They replied they were going to "look into it". As a result the broadcaster has moved the banner away from the logo and just right beside the "Sign Up" button (ah sure why not ...).

There is still an enticement to create a new username (it is explicitly written on the banner: "NEW username") which is bad practice and impacting everyone (affiliate broadcasters, cb, ..) but I can't spend all day long playing that game of cat and mouse.

What was your most successful Linking code Tour-name in 2020 for cb?

Did you report them too?

I have, but I haven’t seen any change yet. Chan used to have banner telling viewers to sign up new account now she do it with text after the banner was removed, hows that any different?

Is there anyone we can communicate with after Steve is gone?

Good stuff

Last period just finished sales are up and sign up is on the up too :thumbsup

Hopefully this upswing will last :1orglaugh

Lucky you :thumbsup

Here last 2 months a lot down and have not seen half of my spenders that 2 months, so i think they are "stolen" from me by that nasty models with their anoying new signup banner/buttons etc :mad:

theres a thread about models stealing on blackhatworld too, if you guys want to join the discussion link here: https://www.blackhatworld.com/seo/so...aters.1089371/

we have to raise this issues on other affiliate forum, maybe CB would make change if more people are aware and talk about it.

https://chaturbate.com/_foxy

she just put her affiliate link out and ask viewers to create new account

Interesting :thumbsup

They seem to think that whitelabels and first cookie rule protect them which is wrong in both instances as I explained many times over already. And then there's the "change username" trick.

I don't know if you remember but I had a CSS rule that was precisely targeting affiliate links (using a regular expression) so that all outgoing links remained up and running but only those disgusting fishing nets were made unclickable and hidden.

Well, shortly after I posted the tip here, chaturbate added a filter so that this particular CSS rule was not allowed. It is clear to me that cb want models to continue this , there is just no official statement.

This is corroborated by the fact that nobody is getting a straight answer, even when Steve was here he was saying: contact support. Then support replies with a template: we'll investigate.

Did anyone meet with them in person to discuss this and see how they take it, maybe at a webmaster or model conference? We must be the laughing stock of a lot of people if I judge by the comments of some here (ex: use of the word "cry" to describe our rant, and other pop corn GIF as if our inability to find a solution was laughing matter.)

Wondering the same. I am pretty sure they would tell you the same, that they are working on it and take a look into the case. Clara_Chan has been reported several times now and she still has this signature where she encourages people to sign up under her username. I think if someone has been caught doing this then the person should only get 1 more warning before a temporary ban or something.

I am not sure in particular why they removed the ability to insert your CSS Code but it sure does not help anyone either, other than the models. I can't seem to understand why Chaturbate would care. They get their share, as when a model makes a lead and when a webmaster makes a lead. I think sometimes they (both CB and the models) forget how valueable Webmasters really are for their website. For sure, Chaturbate has a lot of organic traffic itself too, but the webmasters do their work as well.

By the way: Nice Wishlist :) https://chaturbate.com/siswet19/

Yep, i had that rule too... Its what you say, the models can do everything and we are cut off.

Let's take a look at BlackHat :pimp

Interesting shizzle

LoL

No one cares about the discussion on Blackhat or GFY. Try Twitter.

We need to think about what it is we're trying to achieve. We can assume cb already knows.
We can also assume webmasters know, given the size of this thread.

By amplifying and spreading this further, we could have it backfire at us and have more broadcasters joining the party. Some of them already know about the flaw by reading this thread themselves (with a grin), others are being made aware by unscrupulous webmasters etc ...

I'm not saying Twitter or BH are bad ideas. I am just adding some food for thoughts.

Talking about Twitter, I have never had a single like, retweet or follow back in 4 years by the Chaturbate main account. If you look at their timeline, they RT broadcasters affiliate links no prb. That's another indication.

definitely increase of traffic and free leads for me.

How is everything doing money wise right now? I'm looking at people going to tipping page and some users go there and seem to be hesitating.

some money coming through though. april will be a very interesting month to watch. Hope we all BANK!

<iframe src="https://chaturbate.com/in/?track=embedtube&tour=CoeM&campaign=XXXXXX&disable _sound=1&mobileRedirect=auto&embed_video_only=1" height="250px" width="300px" frameborder="0" class="code" scrolling="no"></iframe>

at some point I had the iframe open in a new window. But now I can not remember how I did it. Any ideas ?