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Supr7 · 02-12-2016, 11:58 AM

why is this cunt allowed to hijack traffic with a big affiliate signup button right in the middle of the fucking screen? way to piss off webmasters sending traffic.

http ://imgur.com/0DS5LaW

baddog · 02-12-2016, 12:02 PM

never mind

EddyTheDog · 02-12-2016, 12:05 PM

A load of them are doing it - Some even more blatant than that - The models don't seem to realize that affiliates are just as important to the success of Chaturbate as they are...

This is your image BTW -

They are not recommended by me any more - I send potential affiliates elsewhere if they ask.....

I love the DCMA protected BS as well - She can steal from us, but we can't use her pics to make HER money - lol...

Tjeezers · 02-12-2016, 02:33 PM

webmasters are always first IN and FIRST out...

tubebunker · 02-12-2016, 02:51 PM

ha ha ha h ha ha ha ha

#23 · 02-12-2016, 02:54 PM

being a webmaster you have to be more innovative with new ideas,ways,products before the model gets all the sales

420 · 02-12-2016, 06:47 PM

https://gfy.com/20667947-post76.html

EddyTheDog · 02-12-2016, 07:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 420

https://gfy.com/20667947-post76.html

I just checked and it is true - The affiliate link is NOT overridden! - I take back what I said before - I should have checked first, sorry Punker...

However, Chaturbate are losing out - If a surfer isn't a referral then the host will get the commission - I can only assume that is a loss that Chaturbate is willing to make to keep the talent happy.....

DBS.US · 02-12-2016, 07:16 PM

Relax, everything is working fine.

Posts: 12

astronaut x · 02-12-2016, 09:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by EddyTheDog

She can steal from us, but we can't use her pics to make HER money - lol...

You sure?

MiamiBoyz · 02-13-2016, 01:05 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by EddyTheDog

A load of them are doing it - Some even more blatant than that - The models don't seem to realize that affiliates are just as important to the success of Chaturbate as they are...

This is your image BTW -

They are not recommended by me any more - I send potential affiliates elsewhere if they ask.....

I love the DCMA protected BS as well - She can steal from us, but we can't use her pics to make HER money - lol...

Fuck that old cumbucket.

ou couldn't sell that wildebeest's video even if you did waste your time stealing it...who would want to watch such a boring sad and pathetic creature finger her diseased well used cunt anyway!

dillfly2000 · 02-13-2016, 01:27 AM

Wha tha fuuuuuuu...

adultmobile · 02-13-2016, 04:34 AM

"Cookies do NOT override. The original person to refer the surfer will always receive credit for the registration/sale."

NickBaer · 02-13-2016, 09:23 AM

If I had a couple more Chaturbate registrations, that spent money, I could get back to visiting the webmaster tradeshows in Ireland, Spain, London, Amsterdam, Prague.

LouiseLloyd · 02-13-2016, 01:27 PM

All this cookie is not over written is only one side of the story!

What about the poor affiliate who actually does refer a customer after he/she has clicked the above model link but choose not to sign up, but only after visiting a legitimate affiliates site changed his mind, signing up by clicking the real affiliates link, but the model gets all the credit as the visitor was lured into clicking what looks like a genuine site button.

Only cookies with referrer as 3rd party site should count, affiliate cookies should not be set if the referrer is chaturbate.com (including short links or redirects that originated from chaturbate.com).

If those models want to be affiliates, all well and good, but let them put in the work like affiliates.

DBS.US · 02-13-2016, 02:50 PM

I have one simple rule, The program that sends me the biggest check gets my traffic. Chaturbate sends me the biggest check.

punker barbie · 02-13-2016, 08:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 420

https://gfy.com/20667947-post76.html

Thank you

punker barbie · 02-13-2016, 08:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Supr7

why is this cunt allowed to hijack traffic with a big affiliate signup button right in the middle of the fucking screen? way to piss off webmasters sending traffic.

http ://imgur.com/0DS5LaW

Cookies do NOT override on Chaturbate.com. The original person to refer the surfer will get credit for the registration/sale.

JSWENSON · 02-14-2016, 12:51 AM

Send traffic to your own page. Chaturbate is awesome **because** they allow the models freedom to do things like this, even if it encourages stupid shit like DMCA protection on a streaming webcam site.

Wouldn't all screenshots fall under commentary anyhow?

Coup · 02-14-2016, 01:08 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MiamiBoyz

Fuck that old cumbucket.

ou couldn't sell that wildebeest's video even if you did waste your time stealing it...who would want to watch such a boring sad and pathetic creature finger her diseased well used cunt anyway!

AmeliaG · 02-14-2016, 03:58 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by punker barbie

Cookies do NOT override on Chaturbate.com. The original person to refer the surfer will get credit for the registration/sale.

How long does the initial cookie last?

I'm personally not a fan of cookies not being overridden because it favors tube pops over hand-selling, but I understand why some prefer them.

j3rkules · 02-15-2016, 05:32 AM

zerovic · 02-16-2016, 05:57 PM

I just saw this myself as well.. before searching for an actual thread here on gfy.com, I've contacted the support to see what's up... here's what I got

Quote:

Dear zerovic,

If a user signs up using these model's links, then the credit will go to the model, even if they clicked on your affiliate link first.
Let us know if you require any further assistance, and we will be happy to help!

Thank you,
Customer Support

Any thoughts?

Andreweb · 02-17-2016, 12:47 AM

The things are simple send the traffic to a WL , on WL models links don't appear !

EddyTheDog · 02-17-2016, 01:03 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Andreweb

The things are simple send the traffic to a WL , on WL models links don't appear !

That's good tip - I hadn't thought of checking that!..

Thanks

zerovic · 02-17-2016, 05:44 PM

Sorry for bumping this thread, but i guess ppl have to see this

Here's my original message to their support

Quote:

Hi,

Recently I saw that some models place big links on their chat rooms where it says "Sign Up" or other kind of stuff... How I see, these links are their own affiliate links, which means, they don't only make money from their own show, but if they refer a new user they will make a commission from that too... Which is completely fine, but

What if someone who gets to chaturbate.com from my affiliate link, simply sees this big "Sign Up" button and clicks it... who gets the credit for this user? Will my affiliate code be overwrited by the models affiliate id, or the new users will still go under me?

Here are two quick examples:
Chat with Livegoddess in a Live Adult Video Chat Room Now
Chat with Kokette22 in a Live Adult Video Chat Room Now

Thanks,

Their answer was

Quote:

Dear zerovic,

If a user signs up using these model's links, then the credit will go to the model, even if they clicked on your affiliate link first.
Let us know if you require any further assistance, and we will be happy to help!

Thank you,
Customer Support

My response

Quote:

Wow, then why do you allow these kind of stuff? So basically, a model can steal my traffic with these eye catchy links? This has to be fixed asap!

And the last response

Quote:

Dear zerovic,

Every user has the ability to earn referral bonuses through their referral links.

Thank you for your suggestion. We are working hard to improve the site and will consider your feedback for future improvements.

Let us know if you require any further assistance, and we will be happy to help!

Thank you,
Customer Support

Again, share your thoughts!

DVTimes · 02-17-2016, 05:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Andreweb

The things are simple send the traffic to a WL , on WL models links don't appear !

That's what I do (ie DV Babes Chaturbate WebCam Babes).

Why would you send hits to the main site I have no idea.

katja_AWNews · 02-17-2016, 08:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DVTimes

That's what I do (ie DV Babes Chaturbate WebCam Babes).

Why would you send hits to the main site I have no idea.

cause most of the promo tools are not for the cobrand to use
for example, the embed video chat tool

plaster · 02-17-2016, 08:51 PM

Wowsa... so Punker is completely wrong...

Quote:

Originally Posted by punker barbie

Thank you

Quote:

Originally Posted by zerovic

Sorry for bumping this thread, but i guess ppl have to see this

Here's my original message to their support

Hi,

Recently I saw that some models place big links on their chat rooms where it says "Sign Up" or other kind of stuff... How I see, these links are their own affiliate links, which means, they don't only make money from their own show, but if they refer a new user they will make a commission from that too... Which is completely fine, but

What if someone who gets to chaturbate.com from my affiliate link, simply sees this big "Sign Up" button and clicks it... who gets the credit for this user? Will my affiliate code be overwrited by the models affiliate id, or the new users will still go under me?

Here are two quick examples:
Chat with Livegoddess in a Live Adult Video Chat Room Now
Chat with Kokette22 in a Live Adult Video Chat Room Now

Thanks,

Their answer was

Dear zerovic,

If a user signs up using these model's links, then the credit will go to the model, even if they clicked on your affiliate link first.
Let us know if you require any further assistance, and we will be happy to help!

Thank you,
Customer Support

My response

Wow, then why do you allow these kind of stuff? So basically, a model can steal my traffic with these eye catchy links? This has to be fixed asap!

And the last response

Dear zerovic,

Every user has the ability to earn referral bonuses through their referral links.

Thank you for your suggestion. We are working hard to improve the site and will consider your feedback for future improvements.

Let us know if you require any further assistance, and we will be happy to help!

Thank you,
Customer Support

Again, share your thoughts!

... btw... every program can choose to honor first cookie or last. In NATS it is called passive link or active link. Punker replied originally that it was a passive link (i.e. first cookie stays, and then has responded saying it is last cookie). Whatever the tracking system, you can honor either. Those that buy a shit ton of pops would cookie a passive link so their link stands no matter who sent the traffic.

ravenazrael · 02-17-2016, 09:08 PM

They should honor the first cookie. The affiliate got the user to the website.
Again, and as I implied here we have here a company that gives a crap about their reputation and sees affiliates and models as disposable, but has not realized that without affiliates and models they would run out of business.

LiveGoddess and kokette are models who are 6-8 hours every day and are among the most visited girls. Basically CB is saying "FUCK YOU" to affiliates

BIGTYMER · 02-17-2016, 09:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by zerovic

Sorry for bumping this thread, but i guess ppl have to see this

Here's my original message to their support

Their answer was

My response

And the last response

Again, share your thoughts!

Ouch..

Barry-xlovecam · 02-17-2016, 09:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by plaster

Wowsa... so Punker is completely wrong...

... btw... every program can choose to honor first cookie or last. In NATS it is called passive link or active link. Punker replied originally that it was a passive link (i.e. first cookie stays, and then has responded saying it is last cookie). Whatever the tracking system, you can honor either. Those that buy a shit ton of pops would cookie a passive link so their link stands no matter who sent the traffic.

Yes, we do this to prevent cookie stuffing. However, once a referred customer registers a free account, then he is that affiliate's customer. There will always be winners and losers with tracking. Cookies mean little when they are not accepted or deleted anyway ...

plaster · 02-17-2016, 09:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Barry-xlovecam

Yes, we do this to prevent cookie stuffing. However, once a referred customer registers a free account, then he is that affiliate's customer. There will always be winners and losers with tracking. Cookies mean little when they are not accepted or deleted anyway ...

Not sure why your response applies to thus thread. A program owner can choose either one.

Barry-xlovecam · 02-17-2016, 10:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by plaster

Not sure why your response applies to thus thread. A program owner can choose either one.

You miss the point, cookies in the real world have a very limited shelf life with many only accepted for no more than that session only. If you can't register a user, e.g. free signup, or make a paid conversion, within that session -- persistent cookies do not matter like they did in 1998 ...

You fight a battle when their is no war to be won.

AllAboutCams · 02-17-2016, 10:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Barry-xlovecam

Yes, we do this to prevent cookie stuffing. However, once a referred customer registers a free account, then he is that affiliate's customer. There will always be winners and losers with tracking. Cookies mean little when they are not accepted or deleted anyway ...

Its not great for some of us that send paid traffic and use traffic from our organic sites for them only to be overridden. I work bloody hard trying to get the most amount of traffic i can to the people i promote.

Barry-xlovecam · 02-17-2016, 11:05 PM

We spend lots of money on ads that do not convert for us and our own cookies are overwritten by affiliates that benefit from our advertising efforts in brand recognition when they click in from an affiliate's website and that referral makes a purchase.

We give that spending to the affiliates benefit as well as our own. Sword cuts both ways usually.

The only way to ensure that you benefit from a conversion is to get a free signup on most cam sites that pay lifetime.

However, I don't allow our models to override cookies from our camsite -- that is not fair to me or our affiliates

AllAboutCams · 02-17-2016, 11:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Barry-xlovecam

We spend lots of money on ads that do not convert for us and our own cookies are overwritten by affiliates that benefit from our advertising efforts in brand recognition when they click in from an affiliate's website and that referral makes a purchase.

We give that spending to the affiliates benefit as well as our own. Sword cuts both ways usually.

The only way to ensure that you benefit from a conversion is to get a free signup on most cam sites that pay lifetime.

However, I don't allow our models to override cookies from our camsite -- that is not fair to me or our affiliates

I get what you are saying i just started promoting you guys and will see how it goes.

georgeyw · 02-18-2016, 12:14 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by plaster

Wowsa... so Punker is completely wrong...

... btw... every program can choose to honor first cookie or last. In NATS it is called passive link or active link. Punker replied originally that it was a passive link (i.e. first cookie stays, and then has responded saying it is last cookie). Whatever the tracking system, you can honor either. Those that buy a shit ton of pops would cookie a passive link so their link stands no matter who sent the traffic.

I'd believe Shirley over those support people anyday.

EddyTheDog · 02-18-2016, 12:38 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by plaster

Wowsa... so Punker is completely wrong...

... btw... every program can choose to honor first cookie or last. In NATS it is called passive link or active link. Punker replied originally that it was a passive link (i.e. first cookie stays, and then has responded saying it is last cookie). Whatever the tracking system, you can honor either. Those that buy a shit ton of pops would cookie a passive link so their link stands no matter who sent the traffic.

If the affiliate cookie is the only means of tracking the referrer then the original affiliate gets credit - I checked by looking at the cookies themselves...

It's hard to say if that's a good or a bad thing considering all the circumstances - For the time being just use a WL - There is no issue then.....

Andreweb · 02-18-2016, 01:03 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Katja wescort

cause most of the promo tools are not for the cobrand to use
for example, the embed video chat tool

You know you can use any promo tool for your WL , even the embed chat room you need to use the iframe code and you only chage chaturbate.com with yourdomain.com ! You can even use the APIs with your WL is simple ! The main reason sending traffic to the chaturbate not to a WL is because it converts much better than a WL !

adultmobile · 02-18-2016, 03:33 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AllAboutCams

I get what you are saying i just started promoting you guys and will see how it goes.

+1 for barry, got an affiliate

sarettah · 02-18-2016, 03:47 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Andreweb

The main reason sending traffic to the chaturbate not to a WL is because it converts much better than a WL !

Shhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh.

.

punker barbie · 02-18-2016, 12:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by zerovic

Sorry for bumping this thread, but i guess ppl have to see this

Here's my original message to their support

Their answer was

My response

And the last response

Again, share your thoughts!

Iâ??m sorry to see our support gave you false information.Our cookies do not override. If a surfer clicks an affiliate link to Chaturbate, purchases tokens using a broadcasters link, the original person (affiliate) will get credit for that purchase and all future purchases. Once a surfer is a associated an affiliate itâ??s permanent regardless of what links are used to purchase.

punker barbie · 02-18-2016, 12:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by georgeyw

I'd believe Shirley over those support people anyday.

sarettah · 02-18-2016, 02:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by punker barbie

Iâ??m sorry to see our support gave you false information.Our cookies do not override. If a surfer clicks an affiliate link to Chaturbate, purchases tokens using a broadcasters link, the original person (affiliate) will get credit for that purchase and all future purchases. Once a surfer is a associated an affiliate itâ??s permanent regardless of what links are used to purchase.

I just love when you get all mad and post in blue

.

zerovic · 02-18-2016, 02:59 PM

Ok, here's my last bump for this thread..

Quote:

Dear zerovic,

After further review I was mistaken. The correct answer to your question is the original affiliate will get credit for the sale. Once a surfer is associated with the affiliate all future sales will be credited to original affiliate regardless of what link they used to purchase.
Let us know if you require any further assistance, and we will be happy to help!

Thank you,
Customer Support

Cheers ;)

sarettah · 02-18-2016, 05:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by zerovic

Ok, here's my last bump for this thread..

"Dear zerovic,

After further review I was mistaken. The correct answer to your question is the original affiliate will get credit for the sale. Once a surfer is associated with the affiliate all future sales will be credited to original affiliate regardless of what link they used to purchase.
Let us know if you require any further assistance, and we will be happy to help!

Thank you,
Customer Support"

Cheers ;)

Punker Barbie kicking some ass.

.

AllAboutCams · 02-19-2016, 12:36 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by punker barbie

Iâ??m sorry to see our support gave you false information.Our cookies do not override. If a surfer clicks an affiliate link to Chaturbate, purchases tokens using a broadcasters link, the original person (affiliate) will get credit for that purchase and all future purchases. Once a surfer is a associated an affiliate itâ??s permanent regardless of what links are used to purchase.

See still the best

adultmarketer88 · 03-11-2016, 11:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by punker barbie

Iâ??m sorry to see our support gave you false information.

You are the support.

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