Would you fire an employee who is late to work on the first day?

[J. Falcon]

So you hire 6 new workers and tell them they're expected to come in early.

First day of work and one of them shows up 15 minutes late.

Let's assume he has an excuse: car broke down, stuck in traffic, kid got sick, broken pipe in his bathroom, etc.

Would you let it slide or fire him on the spot as an example to the rest/ rule of principal?

[bushwacker]

Originally Posted by J. Falcon

So you hire 6 new workers and tell them they're expected to come in early.

First day of work and one of them shows up 15 minutes late.

Let's assume he has an excuse: car broke down, stuck in traffic, kid got sick, broken pipe in his bathroom, etc.

Would you let it slide or fire him on the spot as an example to the rest/ rule of principal?

Just happened to me a few weeks ago. I fired them.

I am not running a daycare, if you can not be on time you can't work for me.

[J. Falcon]

Originally Posted by bushwacker

Just happened to me a few weeks ago. I fired them.

It was nore than one?

[bushwacker]

Originally Posted by J. Falcon

It was nore than one?

Sorry that was a typo. I had hired two, and one showed up late.

[rogueteens]

I would let it slide. At the end of the day, 15 mins isn't much and it could well be a genuine reason.
Of cause, i'd keep a close eye on them in the future.

[Barry-xlovecam]

Did his Mother die? If so, remind him that your mother can only die once on the same job .

Just say: don't be late without calling to tell me/us. Realize that other people are depending on your being here. (You are important to us -- why are we unimportant to you?)

Fire him if he is late again without calling you -- you warned him once ...

** I didn?t see the 15 min part -- shit happens but if it repeatedly happens it shows a lack of discipline and will only get worse

[SilentKnight]

Since I'm never late myself - I have a very low tolerance for it. It'd better be a damn good excuse - not some bullshit.

[poncabare]

How it starts is how it ends

[Paul Markham]

I fire3d someone after an hour. He had spent 20 minutes of the hour in the toilets smoking.

[Scott McD]

Depends if he had a valid reason. And you believe it...

[CaptainHowdy]

[Sly]

Originally Posted by J. Falcon

So you hire 6 new workers and tell them they're expected to come in early.

First day of work and one of them shows up 15 minutes late.

Let's assume he has an excuse: car broke down, stuck in traffic, kid got sick, broken pipe in his bathroom, etc.

Would you let it slide or fire him on the spot as an example to the rest/ rule of principal?

Good workers plan for problems.

People don't change.

Fire.

[shake]

If they had a decent reason (car broke down) I would give them a chance. I would check up on their car repairs to make sure the story isn't shit.

[Best-In-BC]

Yes fuck them, Im always 10 minutes early

[CurrentlySober]

You should have made him kneel down infront of the other 5, and shot him in the back of the head...

You would never have a late employee again...

[rogueteens]

Originally Posted by Best-In-BC

Yes fuck them, Im always 10 minutes early

Youre poor girlfriend!

[ErectMedia]

depends how nice her ass is, if I'd miss it then no.

[TheSquealer]

You're the guy from Uruguay right?

[L-Pink]

If you ever thought about having sex with the employee now is a good time to bring it up.

[wehateporn]

Most the people I knew who arrived late to the office would also stay late without being asked, while the ones who got in early would leave on the dot

[Dean S.]

Originally Posted by ErectMedia

depends how nice her ass is, if I'd miss it then no.

[ruff]

Fire them, then fire the entire family, then set fire to everything they own. Then fire up a doobie and let us know how it went.

[TheSquealer]

Originally Posted by TheSquealer

You're the guy from Uruguay right?

Never mind, did a search to confirm its you.

I was just asking because in 2008, i had 10's of 1000s of Dollars in writing work to be done and hit up you and about 4/5 other people offering similar services to see who could actually deliver before i started making any bigger commitments.

Of all of them, I recall that you were among the worst at promising something on a day and then not delivering anything but excuses and delays.

Ironically, i ended up hiring a guy who had just quit working for you.... not going to say his name (initials, K.S.), but he is Australian and living there, so obviously can figure it out.

He worked for us for quite a few years full time after that and always did a fantastic job and followed any instructions to the letter. Later, he ended up recruiting more writers and managing them for us and again, he really excelled and did a great job.

My suggestion to you, fire every employee you have. They'll all be better off for it.

[Sednub997]

No thats not the right he should be warned but not fired

[BigFurry]

Originally Posted by J. Falcon

Would you let it slide or fire him on the spot as an example to the rest/ rule of principal?

Fire him? No way. Unless you're running a sweatshop...

Every single person has good and bad qualities. What if he turns out to be the world's best employee, who's 15 mins late two times a week?

Would you replace them with someone who's always punctual, but does shit work?

[Matyko]

The question is if the one who arrives w 15 min late is staying 15 minutes more 'automatically' or if he's leaving just as the others. If he is leaving: tell him never some back.

Here in my office I am quite flexible with my guys. They can arrive anytime they want, what matters for me is to do productive work for at least the time I am paying them for. My guys never cheat with this, they have respects toward my little company and me. I am Sure this wouldn't work with most people though, I had guys who were cheating.. If I pay someone for 40 hours of productive work a week, I expect the same 'accuracy' as they expect when its paycheck time.

[Rochard]

No, I would not.

First day at a new job, new routine, etc... Let it slide.

[bushwacker]

Originally Posted by TheSquealer

Never mind, did a search to confirm its you.

I was just asking because in 2008, i had 10's of 1000s of Dollars in writing work to be done and hit up you and about 4/5 other people offering similar services to see who could actually deliver before i started making any bigger commitments.

Of all of them, I recall that you were among the worst at promising something on a day and then not delivering anything but excuses and delays.

Ironically, i ended up hiring a guy who had just quit working for you.... not going to say his name (initials, K.S.), but he is Australian and living there, so obviously can figure it out.

He worked for us for quite a few years full time after that and always did a fantastic job and followed any instructions to the letter. Later, he ended up recruiting more writers and managing them for us and again, he really excelled and did a great job.

My suggestion to you, fire every employee you have. They'll all be better off for it.

ZING!

[NemesisEnforcer]

Originally Posted by J. Falcon

Would you let it slide or fire him on the spot as an example to the rest/ rule of principal?

Document it as part of his probation period. If it continues, fire him.

[baddog]

Originally Posted by J. Falcon

So you hire 6 new workers and tell them they're expected to come in early.

First day of work and one of them shows up 15 minutes late.

Let's assume he has an excuse: car broke down, stuck in traffic, kid got sick, broken pipe in his bathroom, etc.

Would you let it slide or fire him on the spot as an example to the rest/ rule of principal?

Not quite the same thing, but I was just reminiscing about this a few days ago.

The first day my housekeeper was supposed to show up she was about an hour late; yeah it was raining and she takes the bus, but I was not very happy.

Within an hour or two of her arrival I realized I would have been nuts to let her slide from my fingers just because she was late. She is the best housekeeper ever.

[marcop]

Here in LA the traffic is so bad and unpredictable that firing someone for being 15 minutes late on their first day would be very harsh.

That reminds me: 20+ years ago, I was over an hour late on my first day to a programming gig--but I didn't get fired, perhaps because I had a whole slew of mitigating circumstances such as: I'd only moved to LA the day before, it was an almost 50 mile commute, I hadn't figured out the best way to go and had taken a route that was more heavily trafficked than the best route, and lastly--and don't laugh--it was raining.

[Dead]

Short answer ,.No I would not.
Have had my best guy lay out for days, and yet never fired him?
Sometimes they know the work load better then the employer, and in the end he did me a favor of not keeping him on the clock when things are slow.Very smart employee.

Like Matyko, I too run a very flexible shift, but have never been let down when things need to happen.

[mce]

It all boils down to respect, principles, and professionalism

[incredibleworkethic]

I would give one chance early on. If he/she was a reliable employee and it happened after a good established work history, all is good.

[J. Falcon]

Originally Posted by TheSquealer

Never mind, did a search to confirm its you.

I was just asking because in 2008, i had 10's of 1000s of Dollars in writing work to be done and hit up you and about 4/5 other people offering similar services to see who could actually deliver before i started making any bigger commitments.

Of all of them, I recall that you were among the worst at promising something on a day and then not delivering anything but excuses and delays.

Ironically, i ended up hiring a guy who had just quit working for you.... not going to say his name (initials, K.S.), but he is Australian and living there, so obviously can figure it out.

He worked for us for quite a few years full time after that and always did a fantastic job and followed any instructions to the letter. Later, he ended up recruiting more writers and managing them for us and again, he really excelled and did a great job.

My suggestion to you, fire every employee you have. They'll all be better off for it.

Great story dude. I'm talking about a completely different business. I have 30 employees now, and it's not writing and not adult.

[J. Falcon]

Oh well, GFY just wouldn't be GFY without the cocksucking trolls like The Squeeler high jacking threads, most of the time with abusrd shit they cannot even prove.

But back to the question, maybe that worker who is late on his first day turns out to be great, but I think 4 times out of 5 you will regret it. First day of work (first interview, meeting or whatever) any responsible person should make it a point to be extra early, so that it is nearly impossible to be late no matter what.

[J. Falcon]

Originally Posted by Dead

Short answer ,.No I would not.
Have had my best guy lay out for days, and yet never fired him?
Sometimes they know the work load better then the employer, and in the end he did me a favor of not keeping him on the clock when things are slow.Very smart employee.

Like Matyko, I too run a very flexible shift, but have never been let down when things need to happen.

Right, but I'm talking about being late the very first day on the job. I think it's something completely different.

[TheSquealer]

Originally Posted by J. Falcon

Oh well, GFY just wouldn't be GFY without the cocksucking trolls like The Squeeler high jacking threads, most of the time with abusrd shit they cannot even prove.

Can't prove? I told you who it was dickhead. You can pretend all day long that you don't know who and what i'm talking about but that won't change history or the facts.

and yeah, ... of course, who could possibly doubt that someone with your fantastic business acumen, unrivaled management skills and past track record of stunning success, writing for pennies wouldn't be growing and growing, year after year and have 30 employees.... but not know what to do if someone is late on the first day.... then being forced to ask a cesspool of unemployable retards for management advice.

Sounds legit.

My bad.

[Grapesoda]

Originally Posted by J. Falcon

So you hire 6 new workers and tell them they're expected to come in early.

First day of work and one of them shows up 15 minutes late.

Let's assume he has an excuse: car broke down, stuck in traffic, kid got sick, broken pipe in his bathroom, etc.

Would you let it slide or fire him on the spot as an example to the rest/ rule of principal?

human resources dept figures that out

[J. Falcon]

Originally Posted by TheSquealer

...then being forced to ask a cesspool of unemployable retards for management advice.

Sounds legit.

My bad.

You're right, your opinion doesn't matter, now go back to trolling.

[AMDWarrior]

Originally Posted by J. Falcon

Great story dude. I'm talking about a completely different business. I have 30 employees now, and it's not writing and not adult.

LOL


No,no you dont

[chaze]

Originally Posted by J. Falcon

So you hire 6 new workers and tell them they're expected to come in early.

First day of work and one of them shows up 15 minutes late.

Let's assume he has an excuse: car broke down, stuck in traffic, kid got sick, broken pipe in his bathroom, etc.

Would you let it slide or fire him on the spot as an example to the rest/ rule of principal?

Yeah if the excuse was legit, of course. Shit happens.

[SBJ]

Originally Posted by BigFurry

Fire him? No way. Unless you're running a sweatshop...

Every single person has good and bad qualities. What if he turns out to be the world's best employee, who's 15 mins late two times a week?

Would you replace them with someone who's always punctual, but does shit work?

This..

I held a factory job for 11 yrs and I remember in the first year or two I was working 3rd shift and we had a ice storm that night.. I went out to start my car early and all my doors were frozen shut on my 83 honda. I pulled so hard on my door that the plastic door handle snapped in half.. I ended up getting the hatchback open with the help of hot water, but I was late for work. I took the broken handle into the office and they all laughed at it..

Sometimes shit just happens..

[L-Pink]

Originally Posted by TheSquealer

.... then being forced to ask a cesspool of unemployable retards for management advice.

.

Lol lol lol Hilarious.

[TheSquealer]

Originally Posted by AMDWarrior

LOL


No,no you dont

He might not reply as the wi-fi on his mega yacht is unreliable and coverage in the Caribbean is spotty.

[crockett]

It would certainly make me watch that person a bit more, but if it was a, reasonable excuse I'd let it slide to see how he/does after that.

Shit happens and Murphys Law dictates that shit is gonna happen when you are starting a job.

I think you would really be pushing the dick head limits if you can someone over that with out giving them a chance.

If it's a repetitive thing or he acted like it's no big deal then by all means.

Keep in mind if you fire someone over something like that the other employees will take notice and it will make them rethink working for you.

[MiamiBoyz]

Originally Posted by SilentKnight

Since I'm never late myself - I have a very low tolerance for it. It'd better be a damn good excuse - not some bullshit.

Agreed.

Anyone serious about a job would NOT show up even 1 minute late the first day!

I say, let them go because you are probably weeding out a problem employee that you will no doubt have to deal with again in the future.

You can also put the fear of god into the others so it is a WIN WIN situation.

[SBJ]

It dawns on me that a lot of people here have never had a REAL job. I was surprised at the amount of people that have told me they started working in porn at 18 (some 16 as affiliates..). I wouldn't be late on my 1st day but if I was one of the 5 that showed up on time and you fired the other I'd be looking for a different place to work. While I understand that the workplace is serious business, I'd never work for someone that fired someone before they gave them a chance to see how they worked. We are all human and I'd like to think that people should work for people that run a tight ship while being fair.

I'm not a slacker and as a previous post I pointed out that I worked for the same company/ factory for 11 years until I left to do porn full-time. When I left I was in the top 6 highest paid out of 50-60 doing my same job in my Dept.

[J. Falcon]

Originally Posted by AMDWarrior

LOL


No,no you dont

I don't claim to be some super successful businessman, but yeah, yeah I do.

[mechanicvirus]

Originally Posted by SBJ

It dawns on me that a lot of people here have never had a REAL job. I was surprised at the amount of people that have told me they started working in porn at 18 (some 16 as affiliates..).

Besides the being 16 as an affiliate part, do you see it as a more positive or negative aspect that a lot of people started hustling in porn at 18? At one spectrum, yes it's not a normal job by any means but on the opposite spectrum, they might be working harder than most 18 year olds work at a normal 9-5 job they might not like.