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|  06-22-2015, 11:40 AM | #1 | 
| Confirmed User Industry Role:  Join Date: Feb 2014 Location: Finesse King 
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				Introducing Sex Messenger: The Desktop App Designed to Convert Your Dating traffic!
			  Hey guys, We're finally rolling out something we've had in development for some time... Sex Messenger. Sex Messenger is easy-to-use downloadable software ? essentially a Desktop app ? that?s designed to convert all your targeted Dating traffic. And it?s designed to convert this traffic WELL! We?ve been seeing some incredible numbers on this. (We gave you a sneak peak here) The software is free to download. Right now we?re paying $50 PPS on all memberships (up to $75 PPS if you have volume). We have a bunch of tours available, and they?re pretty awesome. ( Adult and Mainstream tours available? just hit me up! ) Tailored to suit the needs of all your US, UK, AU & CA traffic!  | 
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|  06-22-2015, 11:45 AM | #2 | 
| Registered User Industry Role:  Join Date: Jun 2015 
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				 | Congrats! we will give it a try | 
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|  06-22-2015, 11:47 AM | #3 | 
| Confirmed User Join Date: Jun 2002 
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				 | Damn, hows it converting, ill probably switch everything to it on those countries. 
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|  06-22-2015, 12:33 PM | #4 | 
| VIP Industry Role:  Join Date: Jul 2013 
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				 | No revshare program for it? | 
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|  06-22-2015, 12:39 PM | #5 | 
| xxx Industry Role:  Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: UK 
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				 | I got a warning when I clicked on the link. crakrevenue.com/web_offers?product_id=3961 
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|  06-22-2015, 01:43 PM | #6 | 
| Videochat Solutions Industry Role:  Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Canada 
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				 | How does it work? 
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|  06-22-2015, 01:48 PM | #7 | |
| Confirmed User Industry Role:  Join Date: Feb 2014 Location: Finesse King 
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 As of right now, it's PPS only, but we will be rolling out with other payout models (Revshare/PPL) in the near future ;) Hmm? No warnings for me. | |
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|  06-22-2015, 01:50 PM | #8 | 
| Confirmed User Industry Role:  Join Date: May 2009 Location: Onboard an airplane around the globe 
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				 | Very nice and interesting! 
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|  06-22-2015, 02:18 PM | #9 | 
| Converting like it's 1999 Industry Role:  Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: The South 
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				__________________ 10 years of experience in: CHAT SALES - PAID TRAFFIC - CONVERSION - CREATIVES - CONSULTATION | 
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|  06-22-2015, 03:06 PM | #10 | 
| Too lazy to set a custom title Industry Role:  Join Date: Dec 2002 
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				 | What happens when a mobile user hits the site? | 
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|  06-22-2015, 04:48 PM | #11 | 
| Etology Project Manager Industry Role:  Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: NoneOfUrBiz 
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				 | Eric, My virus program is shutting the site down "potential virus issue" Have your guys look into this asap. | 
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|  06-22-2015, 05:04 PM | #12 | 
| Etology Project Manager Industry Role:  Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: NoneOfUrBiz 
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				 | Never mind. The issue is with Avast. | 
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|  06-22-2015, 05:05 PM | #13 | |
| Confirmed User Industry Role:  Join Date: Feb 2014 Location: Finesse King 
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 I can assure you there's no virus or anything malicious on our URLs. Are you using "Avast" ? Just moments ago I heard one other report about this-- I think one of our link code domains (ertya) was incorrectly flagged. We're looking into a solution to this. | |
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|  06-22-2015, 05:28 PM | #14 | 
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|  06-23-2015, 03:59 AM | #15 | 
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				 | Did anyone try to push it? | 
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|  06-23-2015, 04:01 AM | #16 | 
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				 | click the link and got this   
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|  06-23-2015, 04:08 AM | #17 | 
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|  06-23-2015, 07:38 AM | #18 | 
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				 | User installs Desktop app; gets access to directory of online users (women & couples).  To message (or continue talking with some of them). the user is prompted to upgrade to Premium (if/when the user does this, this is what earns you the $50 PPS).  There's also some Webcam options. The user will be redirected to our Sex Messenger mobile product alternative(mobile.sexmessenger.com, must be viewed on a mobile device). This mobile offer is paid on a PPL basis rather than PPS. However, affiliates cannot drive traffic to the mobile version only. The mobile version is only used as a fallback to make sure you dont lose any mobile traffic that hit the Sex Messenger website. | 
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|  06-23-2015, 09:12 AM | #19 | 
| Likes Pie Industry Role:  Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: The land that liberated porn 
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				 | Looks good guys   | 
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|  06-23-2015, 09:16 AM | #20 | 
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				 | very nice | 
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|  06-23-2015, 09:19 AM | #21 | 
| Etology.com Industry Role:  Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Hollywood CA 
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				 | Amazing as always guys   
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|  06-23-2015, 10:02 AM | #22 | 
| Confirmed User Industry Role:  Join Date: Feb 2014 Location: Finesse King 
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				 | Thanks guys! Like I said, we have A LOT of variety here as far as tours go. "News Story" Tour --> SexMessenger.com/14273  This Sex Messenger tour is really hot too, it's a "Derek" style video For your Link code to any tour, just send me an email or poke me on Skype and I'll hook you up! | 
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|  06-23-2015, 04:14 PM | #23 | 
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|  06-24-2015, 08:32 AM | #24 | 
| 你自己去他媽的 Industry Role:  Join Date: Mar 2008 
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				 | Cingrats.Have luck | 
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|  06-24-2015, 02:11 PM | #25 | 
| So Fucking Banned Industry Role:  Join Date: Dec 2014 
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				 | I've asked this before but have never received an answer... How have you developed your member base? Have you done any advertising beyond tube sites and other male dominated whack off sites. Or put another way...do you have a good male to female ratio or is this yet another dating scam site where the only date a guy might get is with his hand and an empty wallet. | 
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|  06-24-2015, 04:52 PM | #26 | 
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				 | What about the advertising leaks within the desktop app to pornattitude.com, purlive and ecams etc? do we get PPS on those too? 
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|  06-24-2015, 06:18 PM | #27 | |
| So Fucking Banned Industry Role:  Join Date: Dec 2014 
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 Plus, try to get out of the mobile page by hitting the back button. You can't. It's a circle jerk nightmare reminiscent of the early 2000's. Site owners beware. Send your surfers to this page and you will never get them back. | |
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|  06-24-2015, 11:20 PM | #28 | |
| Converting like it's 1999 Industry Role:  Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: The South 
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 I praise Crak for what they have been able to pull off in terms of aligning and packaging offers as essentially middle men. Some affiliates can generally benefit from middle men when they are sending smaller amounts of joins to a tier based payout program. But ultimately, crak makes money like every other company out there. With an amazing array of x sales and fine print that ultimately sting sting sting the surfer. I can't throw stones, money is money and to some it's everything. All I know is that I've been just as guilty by participating in the past and present (though my x sales are much less damaging).. But as of today I'm ready to take a pay cut for a clean soul. When one thinks about it, being that these companies only pay for profitable sales, and those sales come from average people who will never get the enjoyment out of those x sales (even if the back ends of those x sales were worth a shit, which they are not)... One is ultimately taking their money directly from people's pockets. With little or no added value. God bless legit pay sites, cams, dating, development, and consultancy work  
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|  06-25-2015, 07:30 AM | #29 | |
| Lord of the Leads Industry Role:  Join Date: May 2005 Location: Canada 
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 The revshare will include a % of all upsales. This far from a common practice.. I think lots of affiliate will love that. Regarding mobile traffic , pps & rev share are coming aswell. Its just not fully ready. Regarding the "back offer" on mobile there is a parameter to desactivate them. For us it proven to bring a great % of extra revenues and your are paid on all of them This is a new program are working hard to make something innovative & converting. Stay tuned, this will be huge. | |
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|  06-25-2015, 08:04 AM | #30 | 
| Bye - Left to do stuff Industry Role:  Join Date: Feb 2013 
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				 | Surfers wont install those apps. Mobile apps? Sure, but never a desktop app | 
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|  06-25-2015, 08:06 AM | #31 | |
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 Some nice statistics... | |
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|  06-25-2015, 08:54 AM | #32 | |
| No, I am not banned Industry Role:  Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: ChatGF.com 
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  By the way if you access from outside US, UK, AU & CA (and FR,BE) this happens: sexmessenger.com -> telechargementdirect.net -> media.camsympa.com -> all french language ( carpediem.fr Rentabiliweb ) - I am european but not in France ... Easy guess sexmessenger is an US, UK, AU & CA launch of carpediem.fr 's m.yesmessenger.com + yesmessenger.com [France #350 in Alexa] - note yesmessenger.com also redirects to camsympa from most countries; lots of users in France actually installed this thing in past years believe it or not, no idea how the response it could be for US,UK,AU,CA for a .exe download, let's see, remember there's virtuagirl.com which is also french, as desktop download. Question: should be 99.9% of male users signed up, I assume the girls and couples shown are actually from the cam site of carpediem ( eurolive.com , chocam.com ), no free amateur ones, or? 
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|  06-25-2015, 09:12 AM | #33 | |
| Lord of the Leads Industry Role:  Join Date: May 2005 Location: Canada 
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 The French community is really active and we plan to do bigger on the English/ International. Dont underestimate the concept of a dating site that dont rely on email marketing to activate the free user. The USA / English is a virgin market for this type of offer. The first number of Free/install install/upgrade are as good as on the French market was 5 years ago. Regarding the actual couples and girls, like every other dating site, we share database, use our cams and cupids. We try to acquire as much girls/couple as we can via our SFW version SX messenger | Free Dating App & Software - SXMessenger.com This will be huge. your choice to promote it or not. | |
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|  06-25-2015, 09:46 AM | #34 | |
| Bye - Left to do stuff Industry Role:  Join Date: Feb 2013 
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 tell me the average Price please. We made over 1000 000 install on the french market I dont belive for a second, that you made 1.000.000 willing installs in france. There are about 65 million people living in france, and you are telling me 1,5% of france (baby to senior) have installed your app? How much have you paid the malware Networks? | |
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|  06-25-2015, 10:21 AM | #35 | |
| Lord of the Leads Industry Role:  Join Date: May 2005 Location: Canada 
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 the stats since I have in Crakrevenue (less than 4 years) here :  We made as many as affiliate ourself in the previous years. The French Market is much more than France, French is the second-most widespread language worldwide after English, being an official language in 29 countries, most of which are members of la francophonie, the community of French-speaking countries. It is spoken as a first language in France, southern Belgium, western Switzerland, Monaco, the Canadian province of Quebec and by various communities elsewhere. Never bought any bundle or malware... and we wont accept any traffic from that kind of traffic. First big affiliate to jump in will be the first served in the very limited Whitelable that we will build. Some exemple we did with big French affiliates SexeMessenger | SexeMessenger, l'App des rencontres gratuites et torrides Le messenger du sexe est les moyen le plus rapide de rencontrer les nanas les plus chaudes de ta région. Baise ce soir, discute demain. and many more MSN du sexe | Msndusexe.com, câ??est le Réseau social pour adultes le plus branché de la planète The basic payout start for the french version start at 4$ ppl and can go up to 8$, Its all about your quality and traffic conversion. To date, we seen very similar numbers on the English version, but are cautious as rebills / longtail value are lower these days with the volume of prepaid card and gifts cards. You can stand there and throw rock a the train or jump in, everybody is welcome. Have a great day folks. | |
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|  06-26-2015, 03:59 PM | #36 | 
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				 | More tours Mosaic - SexMessenger.com/12557  What is Sex Messenger? - SexMessenger.com/12593/  Contact me if you'd like your link code for any of these! | 
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|  06-27-2015, 03:08 PM | #37 | 
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|  06-28-2015, 02:17 AM | #38 | 
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				 | Nice staff in there! 
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|  06-28-2015, 02:51 AM | #39 | |
| So Fecking Bummed Industry Role:  Join Date: Aug 2014 
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 Luckily the house isn't too busy today. | |
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|  06-28-2015, 03:19 AM | #40 | 
| So Fecking Bummed Industry Role:  Join Date: Aug 2014 
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				 | Ok, I installed it. Now how do I uninstall it? There is no Sex Messenger or Messenger in add/remove progs. Also, I keep getting popups despite the program being closed. | 
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|  06-28-2015, 08:07 AM | #41 | |
| So Fucking Banned Industry Role:  Join Date: Dec 2014 
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 All the signs are there...they introduced a desktop app when mobile traffic dominates the dating realm. Mobile apps are easier to develop. So why go desktop? Malware... Concept seemed solid. But nope....can't take the time to develop a solid product. Why bother when you can develop a malware desktop app and a circle jerk hell exit strategy with mobile. | |
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|  06-28-2015, 02:05 PM | #42 | 
| Lord of the Leads Industry Role:  Join Date: May 2005 Location: Canada 
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				 | To be clear, yes the concept is solid and the conversion even stronger. 1- We launched the Deskop version first as it was ready, since its the translated version of a very successful french dating software. (in crakrevenue since day one ) 2-The mobile app for android is on its way.. its not that easy. For now we have a mobile website. 3- There is no adware/ malware or bundled with it or anything close to it.. its 100% clean and Microsoft approved & also work on mac. We were even able to promote it on Facebook (the SFW version), until some affiliates started to abuse. 4-The only pop up to the users are the IMads that pop when the app is running ( like Skype, MSN Yahoo Messenger). 3- Its a one click uninstall. 4- It convert free to paid 1:15 and making many people rich (or richer) already. 5 -For this Year I plan to allow about 10 white labels to the top affiliates. I highly suggest to get your traffic rolling and be one of the happy few. Have a great sunday all. | 
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|  06-29-2015, 05:31 AM | #43 | 
| AlexLecomte - JuicyAds ! Industry Role:  Join Date: Jul 2012 Location: CE- Brazil 
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				 | You guys are very good. Respect. 
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|  07-08-2015, 12:42 PM | #44 | 
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|  02-09-2016, 10:41 AM | #45 | 
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				 | what does non-US, UK, AU & CA traffic pay? | 
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|  02-09-2016, 11:01 AM | #46 | 
| So Fucking Banned Industry Role:  Join Date: Jan 2016 
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				 | Two Sex Messenger sales in last month good work ! | 
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|  02-11-2016, 07:52 AM | #47 | 
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|  02-11-2016, 11:00 AM | #48 | 
| hey Industry Role:  Join Date: Mar 2012 Location: with you 
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				 | This just may replace that mfc hole in my life 
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|  03-10-2016, 06:18 PM | #49 | 
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|  03-11-2016, 02:43 PM | #50 | 
| Confirmed User Industry Role:  Join Date: Feb 2014 Location: Finesse King 
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				 | Tomorrow the bump begins!   $75 PPS on Desktop traffic/sales and $50 PPS on Mobile for 2 weeks in March --> https://gfy.com/fucking-around-and-pr...eks-march.html | 
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