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Mr_Frost · 04-28-2016, 04:02 PM

I have a friend who is a webmaster. He has models who signed a release form 7 yrs ago and are now denying they ever signed the contract. He showed me the ORIGINAL contract /model waiver.

They the models are demanding to be taken off the website

Anybody know of any affordable lawyers to hire for a case like this ??

Please advice

Thanks

nikki99 · 04-28-2016, 04:05 PM

is "that friend" yourself

why u need a lawyer? if u have the model releases u r fine

Mr_Frost · 04-28-2016, 04:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by nikki99

is "that friend" yourself

why u need a lawyer? if u have the model releases u r fine

to represent the company in court since its a corporation.

L-Pink · 04-28-2016, 04:09 PM

Send the "models" a copy of the paperwork they signed and forget about it.

Tell him to start video recording the models as they sign the release. Then in the future when models get a serious boyfriend and make the same demand he can send a copy of the release and the signing.

Not a lawyer but just my

.

woj · 04-28-2016, 05:28 PM

did you get the letter from the model? or model's lawyer?

brassmonkey · 04-28-2016, 05:38 PM

do you have a termination clause? does it say forever on it? lol

?The fact that there is no time limit to the agreement does not detract from its clarity or its commercial effectiveness given that the court, in contract interpretation, often implies a reasonable time period for a contract to be in force.?'

The Contract Without an Expiry Date | Edilex

Barry-xlovecam · 04-28-2016, 05:51 PM

U.S. Copyright Office - Copyright Law: Chapter 3

An exclusive assignment of copyright contract?

Mr_Frost · 04-28-2016, 08:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by woj

did you get the letter from the model? or model's lawyer?

models lawyer..

he is claiming that the models never signed the document..

brassmonkey · 04-28-2016, 08:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mr_Frost

models lawyer..

he is claiming that the models never signed the document..

you better have proof they got a copy

OneHungLo · 04-29-2016, 10:52 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by L-Pink

Send the "models" a copy of the paperwork they signed and forget about it.

Tell him to start video recording the models as they sign the release. Then in the future when models get a serious boyfriend and make the same demand he can send a copy of the release and the signing.

Not a lawyer but just my

.

This is what we do. We have them hold the contract in hand and record them reading it.

The webmaster needs to tell them to kick rocks.

nikki99 · 04-29-2016, 11:08 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by L-Pink

Send the "models" a copy of the paperwork they signed and forget about it.

.

this

Barry-xlovecam · 04-29-2016, 11:27 AM

Did you pay her by check or some other documented instrument (wire, paypal) 7 years ago?
Was the payment made to her name?

Never pay a contract off in cash -- leave a paper trail of some sort.

If the contract was forged why did she take the money?

xXXtesy10 · 04-29-2016, 11:37 AM

what you need man?

The Porn Nerd · 04-29-2016, 12:11 PM

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Originally Posted by xXXtesy10

what you need man?

Indian Legal Zoom.

brassmonkey · 04-29-2016, 12:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by L-Pink

Send the "models" a copy of the paperwork they signed and forget about it.

Tell him to start video recording the models as they sign the release. Then in the future when models get a serious boyfriend and make the same demand he can send a copy of the release and the signing.

Not a lawyer but just my

.

there is a time limit if i am not mistaken. ask the question at findlaw. i would not mention porn

DirtyDanza · 04-29-2016, 02:23 PM

I would ignore any random emails.

If they sue you, then show up to Court and present the documents. If they subpoena the documents then you have to provide them. Other than that. Ignore it.

If you need legal help you can shoot me an email chris at parientelaw dot com

I'll warn you tho. We aren't the cheapest in town

brassmonkey · 04-29-2016, 02:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DirtyDanza

I would ignore any random emails.

If they sue you, then show up to Court and present the documents. If they subpoena the documents then you have to provide them. Other than that. Ignore it.

If you need legal help you can shoot me an email chris at parientelaw dot com

I'll warn you tho. We aren't the cheapest in town

so he does not have to give them a copy?? if they want out of porn take it down.

op you may need a lawyer

NatalieK · 04-29-2016, 02:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mr_Frost

he is claiming that the models never signed the document..

?

wtf, if they never signed an agreement, why's he using the content!!!

brassmonkey · 04-29-2016, 03:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GspotProductions

?

wtf, if they never signed an agreement, why's he using the content!!!

this is going to cost somebody

Adraco · 04-29-2016, 03:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GspotProductions

?

wtf, if they never signed an agreement, why's he using the content!!!

Are you here just to show off how incompentent you are???

Learn to read, it says that the lawyer, now representing the model, claims the documents were never signed.

L-Pink · 04-29-2016, 03:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DirtyDanza

I would ignore any random emails.

If they sue you, then show up to Court and present the documents. If they subpoena the documents then you have to provide them. Other than that. Ignore it.

If you need legal help you can shoot me an email chris at parientelaw dot com

I'll warn you tho. We aren't the cheapest in town

Well you have certainly changed

Moved from the ring to the bar huh

DirtyDanza · 04-29-2016, 03:51 PM

It's not his responsibility to provide models with copies unless requested to do so by the Courts. Remember he is not the one saying they didn't sign.

Opposing counsel could easily subpoena the files and he will have to turn them over or show up and give a good reason as to why he did not turn them over.

This is not legal advise but my position would be to make them work. I haven't seen your model release but ill assume it's fairly strong.

Hookers grow up and "come to jesus" all the time.. They meet boyfriends who want content down blah blah blah...

Hookers are all over the place, on drugs, Etc.. etc.. He can't be expected to supply a hooker a copy of her release every time she moves from weekly to another weekly.

His duty is only when subpoena is properly served will he have to provide anything.

brassmonkey · 04-29-2016, 03:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DirtyDanza

It's not his responsibility to provide models with copies unless requested to do so by the Courts. Remember he is not the one saying they didn't sign.

Opposing counsel could easily subpoena the files and he will have to turn them over or show up and give a good reason as to why he did not turn them over.

This is not legal advise but my position would be to make them work. I haven't seen your model release but ill assume it's fairly strong.

Hookers grow up and "come to jesus" all the time.. They meet boyfriends who want content down blah blah blah...

Hookers are all over the place, on drugs, Etc.. etc.. He can't be expected to supply a hooker a copy of her release every time she moves from weekly to another weekly.

His duty is only when subpoena is properly served will he have to provide anything.

im talking about when the document is signed. signature analysis are not cheap.

plaster · 04-29-2016, 04:06 PM

You got an email notice from an attorney? Mark it as spam and carry on

xXXtesy10 · 04-29-2016, 04:07 PM

hey man, pm . fuck legal shit

xXXtesy10 · 04-29-2016, 04:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DirtyDanza

I'll warn you tho. We aren't the cheapest in town

you fucking douche law firms all same. get ego out of clouds and maybe you get business.. stupid asshole.

DirtyDanza · 04-29-2016, 04:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by xXXtesy10

you fucking douche law firms all same. get ego out of clouds and maybe you get business.. stupid asshole.

We're by no means hurting for business

And I'm not searching for business on GFY! We are based in Vegas...

It's like whore valley only for criminals

DirtyDanza · 04-29-2016, 04:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by brassmonkey

im talking about when the document is signed. signature analysis are not cheap.

Tuff to prove she did not sign the document.

She's on video, Contract signed same day video was shot.

Tuff to say " hey I never signed that" I mean it's plausible but very tough to argue.

I bet I can tell you how this is going down.

She is blowing an attorney, complains to him about this, he says oh ill fire off an email and he will balk.

Again... Mark as spam..... Only way he can touch you is subpoena

CaptainHowdy · 04-29-2016, 04:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DirtyDanza

I would ignore any random emails.

If they sue you, then show up to Court and present the documents. If they subpoena the documents then you have to provide them. Other than that. Ignore it.

If you need legal help you can shoot me an email chris at parientelaw dot com

I'll warn you tho. We aren't the cheapest in town

Welcome back.

xXXtesy10 · 04-29-2016, 05:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DirtyDanza

We're by no means hurting for business

see what I mean

then get the fuck out of here

brassmonkey · 04-29-2016, 05:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DirtyDanza

Tuff to prove she did not sign the document.

She's on video, Contract signed same day video was shot.

Tuff to say " hey I never signed that" I mean it's plausible but very tough to argue.

I bet I can tell you how this is going down.

She is blowing an attorney, complains to him about this, he says oh ill fire off an email and he will balk.

Again... Mark as spam..... Only way he can touch you is subpoena

wait a minute

the boxer???

xXXtesy10 · 04-29-2016, 05:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by brassmonkey

wait a minute

the boxer???

and not forget his favorite pasttime with women puking all over cock

DirtyDanza · 04-29-2016, 06:27 PM

Still a favorite pass time of mine

JFK · 04-29-2016, 06:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by L-Pink

Well you have certainly changed

Moved from the ring to the bar huh

YES, What about this ?

JimmyStephans · 04-29-2016, 06:37 PM

This crap happens all the time.

1- Ignore it, or if you decide to answer, simply sate that the model release and Id on file match her, end of story.

2- He may demand to see the documents. Inform him that they are private information and ever leave your office.

3- He may threaten to sue and act tough. Inform him that its fine, and as a courtesy remind him that lawyers filing frivolous suits could be liable for your court costs, attorney's fees, and sanctions set by the court.

4- If, and only if, he sues you don't have to produce any documents until the legal discovery process starts. Thats months after the suit is filed.

5- If your do have the documents, and hopefully ID, your lawyer will file for summary judgement. Basically, saying the case is silly Mr. judge, no need for a trial, etc.

In between all that - if they actually file - there are all sorts of steps to wipe things out. Motion to dismiss, lack of jurisdiction, etc.

All of this answer depends on your story being true: She was shot, she signed release, 2257 was followed if applicable, etc.

mikesouth · 04-29-2016, 06:43 PM

This happens...he is betting you dont have the releases...its odd too because this should likely just be small claims court...send him a copy of the releases, chances are that will be the last you gear of it actually I missed Jimmys response he pretty much nails it

brassmonkey · 04-29-2016, 06:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JimmyStephans

This crap happens all the time.

1- Ignore it, or if you decide to answer, simply sate that the model release and Id on file match her, end of story.

2- He may demand to see the documents. Inform him that they are private information and ever leave your office.

3- He may threaten to sue and act tough. Inform him that its fine, and as a courtesy remind him that lawyers filing frivolous suits could be liable for your court costs, attorney's fees, and sanctions set by the court.

4- If, and only if, he sues you don't have to produce any documents until the legal discovery process starts. Thats months after the suit is filed.

5- If your do have the documents, and hopefully ID, your lawyer will file for summary judgement. Basically, saying the case is silly Mr. judge, no need for a trial, etc.

In between all that - if they actually file - there are all sorts of steps to wipe things out. Motion to dismiss, lack of jurisdiction, etc.

All of this answer depends on your story being true: She was shot, she signed release, 2257 was followed if applicable, etc.

contracts are not "silly"

The Porn Nerd · 04-29-2016, 07:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by xXXtesy10

see what I mean

then get the fuck out of here

Competing with your business?

Major Tom Thanks Duke · 04-29-2016, 07:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by brassmonkey

so he does not have to give them a copy?? if they want out of porn take it down.

op you may need a lawyer

he only has to provide it on discovery. rule of thumb: film whore signing everyting

brassmonkey · 04-29-2016, 07:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DukeSkywalker

he only has to provide it on discovery. rule of thumb: film whore signing everyting

seems like too much trouble.

proving the signature will cost more than just taking it down.

xXXtesy10 · 04-29-2016, 07:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DirtyDanza

Still a favorite pass time of mine

highly recommend this poster and firm now. serious

The Porn Nerd · 04-29-2016, 08:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by xXXtesy10

highly recommend this poster and firm now. serious

Merger?

Major Tom Thanks Duke · 04-29-2016, 08:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by brassmonkey

seems like too much trouble.

proving the signature will cost more than just taking it down.

burden of proof is on the whore. i pulled one vid in my life. and that person has a job with me for the last 12 years designing. I pulled it willingly. there really isn't abything a hooker can do.
the entire thing comes down to nerves, and being in this biz a letter from an attorney is like a letter from AAA trying to sell you life insurance-- recycle.
ds

Mr_Frost · 04-29-2016, 08:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DirtyDanza

Tuff to prove she did not sign the document.

She's on video, Contract signed same day video was shot.

Tuff to say " hey I never signed that" I mean it's plausible but very tough to argue.

I bet I can tell you how this is going down.

She is blowing an attorney, complains to him about this, he says oh ill fire off an email and he will balk.

Again... Mark as spam..... Only way he can touch you is subpoena

You guessed it right buddy..She is personal friends with an attorney am guessing

I know the attorney knows fully well they signed the documents; he saw a copy in court.

I think the issue here is that they just want to "drag" this out in court and Bleed me financially. I would file the papers myself but since i have a corporation, I cannot defend this myself, and I have to hire a lawyer to do it.

Can I sue them myself while the case in ongoing ? maybe in small claims court.

Its frustrating that I have an iron clad release form that a model signed and i still have to deal with the whole ordeal.

CAn I separate myself from the company and sue them myself ?

brassmonkey · 04-29-2016, 08:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mr_Frost

You guessed it right buddy..She is personal friends with an attorney am guessing

I know the attorney knows fully well they signed the documents; he saw a copy in court.

I think the issue here is that they just want to "drag" this out in court and Bleed me financially. I would file the papers myself but since i have a corporation, I cannot defend this myself, and I have to hire a lawyer to do it.

Can I sue them myself while the case in ongoing ? maybe in small claims court.

Its frustrating that I have an iron clad release form that a model signed and i still have to deal with the whole ordeal.

CAn I separate myself from the company and sue them myself ?

that is what i said! now you have to get an expert to verify the signatures!

TheSquealer · 04-29-2016, 08:54 PM

interesting that brassmonkey is now not speaking in unintelligible, broken english and is magically using correct grammar and punctuation..... AND giving legal advice.

DirtyDanza · 04-30-2016, 02:03 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mr_Frost

You guessed it right buddy..She is personal friends with an attorney am guessing

I know the attorney knows fully well they signed the documents; he saw a copy in court.

I think the issue here is that they just want to "drag" this out in court and Bleed me financially. I would file the papers myself but since i have a corporation, I cannot defend this myself, and I have to hire a lawyer to do it.

Can I sue them myself while the case in ongoing ? maybe in small claims court.

Its frustrating that I have an iron clad release form that a model signed and i still have to deal with the whole ordeal.

CAn I separate myself from the company and sue them myself ?

Sue them for what?

Ignore all emails.

The only thing you can't ignore is a subpoena from the Courts.

And at the end of the day this is all civil.

Let's say she wins a Court case... So what...

That's why they sue the LLC and not you.

These cases do no make it far bro.

EpicPanda · 04-30-2016, 03:00 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by L-Pink

Send the "models" a copy of the paperwork they signed and forget about it.

.

NO. First thing a lawyer will tell you is do not do this.

NatalieK · 04-30-2016, 05:00 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Adraco

Are you here just to show off how incompentent you are???

Learn to read, it says that the lawyer, now representing the model, claims the documents were never signed.

I don't think this is incompetent, & maybe you could learn to spell if you're going to troll

I did misread the post though... so in this case, if all model releases were signed, the thread was answered on the second & fourth post

Quote:

Originally Posted by L-Pink

Send the "models" a copy of the paperwork they signed and forget about it.

I'd always photo the model holding the signed model release also

SpicyM · 04-30-2016, 06:00 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DukeSkywalker

he only has to provide it on discovery. rule of thumb: film whore signing everyting

This + the moment you start filming the signing of the contract ask them for a permission to shoot that part and a permission to use that footage for third parties - advice from my lawyer, because otherwise it would not be usable as a proof in court since you shoot the particular act before signing the papers where she gives you the actual permission.

04-28-2016, 04:02 PM	#1
Mr_Frost Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Sep 2010 Posts: 44	Any attorneys here ?? I have a friend who is a webmaster. He has models who signed a release form 7 yrs ago and are now denying they ever signed the contract. He showed me the ORIGINAL contract /model waiver. They the models are demanding to be taken off the website Anybody know of any affordable lawyers to hire for a case like this ?? Please advice Thanks __________________ ICQ 657792893 [email protected]

04-28-2016, 04:05 PM	#2
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04-28-2016, 04:09 PM	#4
L-Pink working on my tan Industry Role: Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Florida/Kentucky Posts: 39,152	Send the "models" a copy of the paperwork they signed and forget about it. Tell him to start video recording the models as they sign the release. Then in the future when models get a serious boyfriend and make the same demand he can send a copy of the release and the signing. Not a lawyer but just my .

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04-29-2016, 11:27 AM	#12
Barry-xlovecam It's 42 Industry Role: Join Date: Jun 2010 Location: Global Posts: 18,083	Did you pay her by check or some other documented instrument (wire, paypal) 7 years ago? Was the payment made to her name? Never pay a contract off in cash -- leave a paper trail of some sort. If the contract was forged why did she take the money?

04-29-2016, 02:23 PM	#16
DirtyDanza Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: BP4L.... Las Vegas, Posts: 8,369	I would ignore any random emails. If they sue you, then show up to Court and present the documents. If they subpoena the documents then you have to provide them. Other than that. Ignore it. If you need legal help you can shoot me an email chris at parientelaw dot com I'll warn you tho. We aren't the cheapest in town __________________ AVN Nominated Camming Couple

04-29-2016, 03:51 PM	#22
DirtyDanza Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: BP4L.... Las Vegas, Posts: 8,369	It's not his responsibility to provide models with copies unless requested to do so by the Courts. Remember he is not the one saying they didn't sign. Opposing counsel could easily subpoena the files and he will have to turn them over or show up and give a good reason as to why he did not turn them over. This is not legal advise but my position would be to make them work. I haven't seen your model release but ill assume it's fairly strong. Hookers grow up and "come to jesus" all the time.. They meet boyfriends who want content down blah blah blah... Hookers are all over the place, on drugs, Etc.. etc.. He can't be expected to supply a hooker a copy of her release every time she moves from weekly to another weekly. His duty is only when subpoena is properly served will he have to provide anything. __________________ AVN Nominated Camming Couple

04-29-2016, 04:06 PM	#24
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JimmyStephans Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Littleton, Colorado. USA Posts: 558	This crap happens all the time. 1- Ignore it, or if you decide to answer, simply sate that the model release and Id on file match her, end of story. 2- He may demand to see the documents. Inform him that they are private information and ever leave your office. 3- He may threaten to sue and act tough. Inform him that its fine, and as a courtesy remind him that lawyers filing frivolous suits could be liable for your court costs, attorney's fees, and sanctions set by the court. 4- If, and only if, he sues you don't have to produce any documents until the legal discovery process starts. Thats months after the suit is filed. 5- If your do have the documents, and hopefully ID, your lawyer will file for summary judgement. Basically, saying the case is silly Mr. judge, no need for a trial, etc. In between all that - if they actually file - there are all sorts of steps to wipe things out. Motion to dismiss, lack of jurisdiction, etc. All of this answer depends on your story being true: She was shot, she signed release, 2257 was followed if applicable, etc. __________________ http://TrueBabes.com/

04-29-2016, 06:43 PM	#36
mikesouth Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: My High Horse Posts: 6,346	This happens...he is betting you dont have the releases...its odd too because this should likely just be small claims court...send him a copy of the releases, chances are that will be the last you gear of it actually I missed Jimmys response he pretty much nails it __________________ Mike South It's No wonder I took up drugs and alcohol, it's the only way I could dumb myself down enough to cope with the morons in this biz.

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