News E-cig/vapers - might want to read this - GoFuckYourself.com

SilentKnight · 12-27-2015, 07:49 PM

Since there's quite a few vaping folks here on GFY - and as an e-cig/vape user myself - I wanted to pass along preliminary findings from this new study they're releasing from Harvard.

Chemicals linked with severe respiratory disease found in common e-cigarette flavors

Chemicals linked with severe respiratory disease found in common e-cigarette flavors | News | Harvard T.H. Chan School of Public Health

gnawledge · 12-27-2015, 08:26 PM

I was vaping for a while and it did something to my lungs. It is some toxic shit. The PG or VG coats your lungs with a film and you cough shit out all the time. Most juices are just made from some experimenting hipster in his living room anyway and sold to these shops. I gave it up and just chew nicotine gum.

ErectMedia · 12-27-2015, 09:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by gnawledge

Most juices are just made from some experimenting hipster in his living room anyway and sold to these shops.

SBJ · 12-27-2015, 09:36 PM

I like my hookah smoking once a day and I could give a shit if it's unhealthy to me.. Everything you consume is bad for you if you dig deep enough.

OneHungLo · 12-27-2015, 09:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SilentKnight

Since there's quite a few vaping folks here on GFY - and as an e-cig/vape user myself - I wanted to pass along preliminary findings from this new study they're releasing from Harvard.

Chemicals linked with severe respiratory disease found in common e-cigarette flavors

Chemicals linked with severe respiratory disease found in common e-cigarette flavors | News | Harvard T.H. Chan School of Public Health

I really think we should wait for WHP's youtube analysis instead of these Harvard researchers

Vendot · 12-27-2015, 09:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by OneHungLo

I really think we should wait for WHP's youtube analysis instead of these Harvard researchers

Dude, get rid of that Polish Aristocrat photo... its like a ghost and its freaking me out.

DBS.US · 12-27-2015, 11:05 PM

I was in a Hong Kong 7/11 and ask about vaping products. They guy told me:
Hong Kong the sale and possession of nicotine-based electronic cigarettes, classified as a Type I Poison, is governed under the Pharmacy and Poisons Ordinance. Sale or possession is not authorized and both are considered punishable with a fine of up to HK$100,000 and/or a prison term of 2 years.

He said in China they do no testing on the vape juice and make it out of anything that smells good and is cheap. They also make counterfeit U.S. made vape juice. Their factories are making this poison 24 hours a day and shipping as fast as they can to make as much money as possible before the dumb Americans figure out there killing themselfs.

woj · 12-28-2015, 06:56 AM

The title "Chemicals linked with severe respiratory disease found in common e-cigarette flavors" is a bit misleading...

all they found is that certain potentially harmful substances were "detected"... but that's meaningless, one could "detect" trace quantities of lead in tomatoes or trace mercury in fish and then write a headline implying that eating tomatoes or fish is dangerous...

no where did they say that these substances were detected in unsafe quantities...

Colmike9 · 12-28-2015, 07:44 AM

The stuff I get is USP certified inhalation grade, a bit better than good grade.
You guys know how I used to do blogging while smoking 5-10 hookahs in a row, right?.. I haven't touched one hookah since getting an eHookah and I can feel the difference in breathing much better after about a month and a half. If it's flavoring that's bad for you, get it unflavored..

Va2k · 12-28-2015, 08:28 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Colmike7

The stuff I get is USP certified inhalation grade, a bit better than good grade.
You guys know how I used to do blogging while smoking 5-10 hookahs in a row, right?.. I haven't touched one hookah since getting an eHookah and I can feel the difference in breathing much better after about a month and a half. If it's flavoring that's bad for you, get it unflavored..

What the fuck is hookahs and does it get you high or just taste good? IM so lost on that shit, I tried looking it up on google but shit that was NO help.

Colmike9 · 12-28-2015, 08:29 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Va2k

What the fuck is hookahs and does it get you high or just taste good? IM so lost on that shit, I tried looking it up on google but shit that was NO help.

It gets me high when I put weed in it.. ;)

Hookahs Online | Buy some great hookahs online!

Manfap · 12-28-2015, 08:31 AM

You were claiming they were harmless 6 month ago, and got arsey when people pointed out they may not be.

Colmike9 · 12-28-2015, 08:32 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Colmike7

The stuff I get is USP certified inhalation grade, a bit better than good grade.

Good grade?.. lol, my phone meant to say "food grade"

blackmonsters · 12-28-2015, 08:52 AM

I took one e-cig hit and hacked my lungs out for 3 minutes.
That was the first and last puff I took.

.

wehateporn · 12-28-2015, 08:59 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by OneHungLo

I really think we should wait for WHP's youtube analysis instead of these Harvard researchers

Remember folks, toxic chemicals are only OK if there's a big industry behind them; they use some special magic to make them 'safe'. The toxic stuff can be safely injected via a Big Pharma vaccine or smoked from a Big Tobacco cigarette, that's the rule OK, don't let's get confused now! Big industry funds the 'safety' studies, that's why they know best.

Colmike9 · 12-28-2015, 09:02 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by wehateporn

Remember folks, toxic chemicals are only OK if there's a big industry behind them; they use some special magic to make them 'safe'. The toxic stuff can be safely injected via a Big Pharma vaccine or smoked from a Big Tobacco cigarette, that's the rule OK, don't let's get confused now! Big industry funds the studies, that's why they know best.

It's just propylene glycol, vegetable glycerin and tiny bit of nicotine. It's the flavors that get you.

Barry-xlovecam · 12-28-2015, 09:07 AM

Regardless of the respiratory issues, smokeless nicotine introduction into your bloodstream will still give you all the cardiovascular problems associated with smoking cigarettes -- heart attack and stroke from arteriosclerosis ... So what is the point? Just quit smoking.

wehateporn · 12-28-2015, 09:09 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Colmike7

It's just propylene glycol, vegetable glycerin and tiny bit of nicotine. It's the flavors that get you.

I'm sure the e-cigs are a lot less dangerous than vaccines and cigarettes

MaDalton · 12-28-2015, 09:16 AM

how can you pump that stuff in your lungs and think it has no effect?

BIGTYMER · 12-28-2015, 09:22 AM

Not a fan of the ecigs. I tried them for two days and got some chest pains. Like mild heartburn. Stopped and it went away. I'll stick to smoking weed or real cigarettes.

Colmike9 · 12-28-2015, 09:37 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BIGTYMER

Not a fan of the ecigs. I tried them for two days and got some chest pains. Like mild heartburn. Stopped and it went away. I'll stick to smoking weed or real cigarettes.

Yeah, weed is probably the best alternative to smoking. When I vape, I get the higher nicotine so that I'll hit it once or twice and I'm good for a while rather than smoking a hookah for about 45 minutes non stop.. I'm trying to quit and it helps, and no coals or tobacco to deal with..

The Porn Nerd · 12-28-2015, 10:42 AM

THE TRUTH ABOUT VAPING:

Don't inhale.

Got it? I'll type it again:

DO NOT INHALE.

The ecig oil is meant to be absorbed IN THE MOUTH. It is an oil, a food (if you will), and the membranes in the mouth dissolve and absorb the oil better than the lungs. That's why you HACK when you inhale. You shouldn't be inhaling!!

When it comes to WEED vaping this is doubly (or triply) true. A joint gets you about 18% THC while a weed ecig (when NOT inhaled but held in the mouth for a few seconds then exhaled) will get you a whopping 85-90% THC!

For anyone inhaling weed vape try holding it in your mouth, like sipping in soda through a straw but not swallowing. It will KNOCK YOU OUT.

BIGTYMER · 12-28-2015, 11:06 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Porn Nerd

When it comes to WEED vaping this is doubly (or triply) true. A joint gets you about 18% THC while a weed ecig (when NOT inhaled but held in the mouth for a few seconds then exhaled) will get you a whopping 85-90% THC!

For anyone inhaling weed vape try holding it in your mouth, like sipping in soda through a straw but not swallowing. It will KNOCK YOU OUT.

So I guess Doug Benson has been doing it right all these years! That fucker never inhales.

The Porn Nerd · 12-28-2015, 11:27 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BIGTYMER

So I guess Doug Benson has been doing it right all these years! That fucker never inhales.

Don't know who that is. LOL I know Bill Clinton supposedly didn't inhale (other than Monica Lewinsky's perfume).

I was 'doing it wrong' for a couple years by inhaling the ecig oil. But then I went on YouTube and watched a couple videos on how EXACTLY to vape to best effect. They said do not inhale but just hold the vaper in your mouth for as long as possible then exhale. When I did it right for the first time it was the highest high I have had in YEARS. Wild.

Want to go even higher? Alternate between a vape (holding it in your mouth) then smoking a joint right after. Hoo boy wowza!!

Colmike9 · 12-28-2015, 11:32 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Porn Nerd

Don't know who that is. LOL I know Bill Clinton supposedly didn't inhale (other than Monica Lewinsky's perfume).

I was 'doing it wrong' for a couple years by inhaling the ecig oil. But then I went on YouTube and watched a couple videos on how EXACTLY to vape to best effect. They said do not inhale but just hold the vaper in your mouth for as long as possible then exhale. When I did it right for the first time it was the highest high I have had in YEARS. Wild.

Want to go even higher? Alternate between a vape (holding it in your mouth) then smoking a joint right after. Hoo boy wowza!!

The only thing that really gets me high anymore besides smoking a half 8 to an 8th by myself are dabs..

Spunky · 12-28-2015, 11:35 AM

Well it's still better than smoking cigarettes ,probably time I quit this shit too

The Porn Nerd · 12-28-2015, 01:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Colmike7

The only thing that really gets me high anymore besides smoking a half 8 to an 8th by myself are dabs..

LOL Oh man I gotta see that shit.

Try mixing shit up - edibles one day, vapes another, bongs then joints then dabs....

Or, for something TRULY radical: stop for a week.

Colmike9 · 12-28-2015, 01:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Porn Nerd

LOL Oh man I gotta see that shit.

Honestly it was over hyped, it's more fun watching your friends get high...

candyflip · 12-28-2015, 06:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Porn Nerd

Or, for something TRULY radical: stop for a week.

My favorite high is the one that comes right after I get home from vacation or a business trip.

$money$ · 12-28-2015, 06:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Colmike7

Honestly it was over hyped, it's more fun watching your friends get high...

BIGTYMER · 12-28-2015, 10:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Colmike7

Honestly it was over hyped, it's more fun watching your friends get high...

Yep but I do like his YouTube sometimes. Getting Doug with High.

The Porn Nerd · 12-28-2015, 10:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by candyflip

My favorite high is the one that comes right after I get home from vacation or a business trip.

Mine too. When I'm not smoking I'm amazed at how much I don't miss it but when I smoke again I'm amazed I ever stopped.

georgeyw · 12-28-2015, 11:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by gnawledge

I was vaping for a while and it did something to my lungs. It is some toxic shit. The PG or VG coats your lungs with a film and you cough shit out all the time. Most juices are just made from some experimenting hipster in his living room anyway and sold to these shops. I gave it up and just chew nicotine gum.

Had the same problem, felt like it limited my breathing, so turfed it years ago.

j3rkules · 12-29-2015, 05:57 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Vendot

Dude, get rid of that Polish Aristocrat photo... its like a ghost and its freaking me out.

NewNick · 12-29-2015, 10:08 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by wehateporn

I'm sure the e-cigs are a lot less dangerous than vaccines and cigarettes

Why ?

You do know who owns the he biggest e-cig brands in the Uk ?

Right ?

JFK · 12-29-2015, 12:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by blackmonsters

I took one e-cig hit and hacked my lungs out for 3 minutes.
That was the first and last puff I took.

.

Some people smoke em like Chimneys, wait a few years , when all the negative shit will come out about it

SilentKnight · 12-29-2015, 01:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JFK

Some people smoke em like Chimneys, wait a few years , when all the negative shit will come out about it

A lot of people are waiting to see the FDA study results...if that ever happens. They have to use up all the funding first.

In the interim...we get these other studies from Harvard to at least consider.

Jigster715 · 05-19-2016, 07:04 PM

Exploding vaporizer rips hole in man's tongue - CNN.com

BlackCrayon · 05-19-2016, 07:43 PM

Jesus ducking Christmas people just quit.

The Porn Nerd · 05-19-2016, 09:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BlackCrayon

Jesus ducking Christmas people just quit.

OK Nancy Reagan, thanks.

wehateporn · 05-20-2016, 01:55 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by NewNick

Why ?

You do know who owns the he biggest e-cig brands in the Uk ?

Right ?

I'm sure e-cigs are dangerous too, but it's just hard to get as dangerous as vaccines, being bitten by ticks is safer

BlackCrayon · 05-20-2016, 03:54 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Porn Nerd

OK Nancy Reagan, thanks.

ack, thats auto correct. anyways if people can quit cigs and use the vape then they can totally quit easily enough i think. at that point its mostly mental.

SuckOnThis · 05-20-2016, 06:35 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BlackCrayon

Jesus ducking Christmas people just quit.

Why? Because one idiot out of millions puts the wrong battery in an ecig and it blows up?

Should everyone quit showering because an old lady slipped in the shower and hit her head?

BlackCrayon · 05-20-2016, 07:15 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SuckOnThis

Why? Because one idiot out of millions puts the wrong battery in an ecig and it blows up?

Should everyone quit showering because an old lady slipped in the shower and hit her head?

no because smoking is pointless and doesn't really do anything for anyone. it doesn't get you high, i just don't see the point if you want to stop risking your life with cigarettes why vape instead inhaling unknown unregulated chemicals? why not just stop completely? is the vaping really doing anything that great that you need to keep doing it? if you have the willpower to stop smoking, you can stop vaping too. i'd sooner smoke crack than smoke cigarettes and it seems 70-8-% of the people vaping have no idea what might even be in it or care, they just think its healthier because thats what they're told.

Choopa Phil · 05-20-2016, 07:33 AM

I quit vaping about a month ago today actually and it was exponentially harder than quitting analogs. Ease of use and more frequency due to ease of use increased the addiction. My withdrawals lasted 2 weeks instead of 3-4 days.

PR_Glen · 05-20-2016, 10:43 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Manfap

You were claiming they were harmless 6 month ago, and got arsey when people pointed out they may not be.

yep, a lot did hehe

'but its just harmless vapour!'

arock10 · 05-20-2016, 12:30 PM

NatalieK · 05-21-2016, 04:34 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SilentKnight

Chemicals linked with severe respiratory disease found in common e-cigarette flavors

Chemicals linked with severe respiratory disease found in common e-cigarette flavors | News | Harvard T.H. Chan School of Public Health

amazing read! I knew it wouldn't be long before they found something in the juice. That's why I have't converted.... I know smoking cigarettes are bad for me, I'm not fooled

AdultKing · 05-21-2016, 04:44 AM

I'll stick to Winfield.

Jel · 05-21-2016, 06:03 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BlackCrayon

no because smoking is pointless and doesn't really do anything for anyone. it doesn't get you high, i just don't see the point if you want to stop risking your life with cigarettes why vape instead inhaling unknown unregulated chemicals? why not just stop completely? is the vaping really doing anything that great that you need to keep doing it? if you have the willpower to stop smoking, you can stop vaping too. i'd sooner smoke crack than smoke cigarettes and it seems 70-8-% of the people vaping have no idea what might even be in it or care, they just think its healthier because thats what they're told.

well fuck, *now* I know smoking is pointless and not very good for you.

And who in their right mind buys unknown unregulated ecig juice?

and newsflash 70-80% of the people up in arms about vaping have no idea what might even be in it or care, they just think its deadlier because thats what they're told by headlines such as the one in the OP. Show me something that says vaping is worse for me than my smokes, and none of this 'may' 'trace amounts' bollocks, and I'll switch back to smokes full time. Until then I'll be using my ecig substitute.

Non/ex-smokers crack me the fuck up... aside from the TINY percentage who were able to give up fairly easily (or even with difficulty), are people that fucking stupid/forgetful that they are oblivious to the physical/mental addiction? No smoker smokes because they are unaware of the fucking health dangers, christ alfuckingmighty

12-27-2015, 07:49 PM	#1
SilentKnight Megan Fox's fluffer Industry Role: Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: shooting pool in Elysium Posts: 24,818	E-cig/vapers - might want to read this Since there's quite a few vaping folks here on GFY - and as an e-cig/vape user myself - I wanted to pass along preliminary findings from this new study they're releasing from Harvard. Chemicals linked with severe respiratory disease found in common e-cigarette flavors Chemicals linked with severe respiratory disease found in common e-cigarette flavors \| News \| Harvard T.H. Chan School of Public Health

12-27-2015, 08:26 PM	#2
gnawledge confirmed loser Industry Role: Join Date: Jul 2012 Location: Florida Posts: 1,092	I was vaping for a while and it did something to my lungs. It is some toxic shit. The PG or VG coats your lungs with a film and you cough shit out all the time. Most juices are just made from some experimenting hipster in his living room anyway and sold to these shops. I gave it up and just chew nicotine gum. __________________ Wikifap Cams Eporn List Is Chaturbate Still Number 1?

12-27-2015, 09:36 PM	#4
SBJ So Fucking Fabulous Industry Role: Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Indiana Posts: 11,374	I like my hookah smoking once a day and I could give a shit if it's unhealthy to me.. Everything you consume is bad for you if you dig deep enough. __________________ Chaturbate - Make tons of money from Cams! *Name Silo - Domains under $9 and free ID protect*

12-27-2015, 11:05 PM	#7
DBS.US Geo Cities Industry Role: Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: North Captiva Island, Florida USA Posts: 11,830	I was in a Hong Kong 7/11 and ask about vaping products. They guy told me: Hong Kong the sale and possession of nicotine-based electronic cigarettes, classified as a Type I Poison, is governed under the Pharmacy and Poisons Ordinance. Sale or possession is not authorized and both are considered punishable with a fine of up to HK$100,000 and/or a prison term of 2 years. He said in China they do no testing on the vape juice and make it out of anything that smells good and is cheap. They also make counterfeit U.S. made vape juice. Their factories are making this poison 24 hours a day and shipping as fast as they can to make as much money as possible before the dumb Americans figure out there killing themselfs. __________________ Make a Free Chaturbate White Label site in 34 minutes and be making money tonight

12-28-2015, 06:56 AM	#8
woj <&(©¿©)&> Industry Role: Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Chicago Posts: 47,882	The title "Chemicals linked with severe respiratory disease found in common e-cigarette flavors" is a bit misleading... all they found is that certain potentially harmful substances were "detected"... but that's meaningless, one could "detect" trace quantities of lead in tomatoes or trace mercury in fish and then write a headline implying that eating tomatoes or fish is dangerous... no where did they say that these substances were detected in unsafe quantities... __________________ Custom Software Development, email: woj#at#wojfun#.#com to discuss details or skype: wojl2000 or gchat: wojfun or telegram: wojl2000 Affiliate program tools: Hosted Galleries Manager Banner Manager Video Manager Wordpress Affiliate Plugin Pic/Movie of the Day Fansign Generator Zip Manager

12-28-2015, 07:44 AM	#9
Colmike9 (>^_^)b Industry Role: Join Date: Dec 2011 Posts: 7,223	The stuff I get is USP certified inhalation grade, a bit better than good grade. You guys know how I used to do blogging while smoking 5-10 hookahs in a row, right?.. I haven't touched one hookah since getting an eHookah and I can feel the difference in breathing much better after about a month and a half. If it's flavoring that's bad for you, get it unflavored.. __________________ Join the BEST cam affiliate program on the internet! I've referred over $1.7mil in spending this past year, you should join in. I make a lot more money in the medical field in a lab now, fuck you guys. Don't ask me to come back, but do join Chaturbate in my sig, it still makes bank without me touching shit for years..

12-28-2015, 08:31 AM	#12
Manfap Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Jan 2013 Posts: 2,622	You were claiming they were harmless 6 month ago, and got arsey when people pointed out they may not be.

12-28-2015, 08:52 AM	#14
blackmonsters Making PHP work Industry Role: Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: 🌎🌅🌈🌇 Posts: 20,464	I took one e-cig hit and hacked my lungs out for 3 minutes. That was the first and last puff I took. . __________________ Make Money with Porn

12-28-2015, 09:07 AM	#17
Barry-xlovecam It's 42 Industry Role: Join Date: Jun 2010 Location: Global Posts: 18,083	Regardless of the respiratory issues, smokeless nicotine introduction into your bloodstream will still give you all the cardiovascular problems associated with smoking cigarettes -- heart attack and stroke from arteriosclerosis ... So what is the point? Just quit smoking.

12-28-2015, 09:16 AM	#19
MaDalton I am Amazing Content! Industry Role: Join Date: Feb 2004 Posts: 39,822	how can you pump that stuff in your lungs and think it has no effect? __________________ AmazingContent.com - providing only the best content and service since 2003 Monetize your content on Veegaz.com - one of Germanies largest VOD sites Got German traffic? We convert it into money for you! Skype: madalton02826 - Email: oltecconsult [at] gmail [dot] com

12-28-2015, 09:22 AM	#20
BIGTYMER Junior Achiever Industry Role: Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Walled Garden Posts: 17,066	Not a fan of the ecigs. I tried them for two days and got some chest pains. Like mild heartburn. Stopped and it went away. I'll stick to smoking weed or real cigarettes.

12-28-2015, 10:42 AM	#22
The Porn Nerd Living The Dream Industry Role: Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Inside a Monitor Posts: 19,557	THE TRUTH ABOUT VAPING: Don't inhale. Got it? I'll type it again: DO NOT INHALE. The ecig oil is meant to be absorbed IN THE MOUTH. It is an oil, a food (if you will), and the membranes in the mouth dissolve and absorb the oil better than the lungs. That's why you HACK when you inhale. You shouldn't be inhaling!! When it comes to WEED vaping this is doubly (or triply) true. A joint gets you about 18% THC while a weed ecig (when NOT inhaled but held in the mouth for a few seconds then exhaled) will get you a whopping 85-90% THC! For anyone inhaling weed vape try holding it in your mouth, like sipping in soda through a straw but not swallowing. It will KNOCK YOU OUT. __________________ My Affiliate Programs: Porn Nerd Cash \| Porn Showcase \| Aggressive Gold Over 90 paysites to promote! Now on Teams: peabodymedia

12-28-2015, 11:35 AM	#26
Spunky I need a beer Industry Role: Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: ♠ Toiletville ♠ Posts: 133,934	Well it's still better than smoking cigarettes ,probably time I quit this shit too __________________ *YOUR INFORMATION HERE*

05-19-2016, 07:04 PM	#38
Jigster715 So Fucking Banned Industry Role: Join Date: Jul 2015 Location: elmer blackwood mansion Posts: 1,459	Exploding vaporizer rips hole in man's tongue - CNN.com

05-19-2016, 07:43 PM	#39
BlackCrayon Too lazy to set a custom title Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Ottawa Posts: 19,631	Jesus ducking Christmas people just quit. __________________ you don't know you're wearing a leash if you sit by the peg all day..

05-20-2016, 07:33 AM	#45
Choopa Phil Confirmed User Join Date: Apr 2009 Posts: 3,965	I quit vaping about a month ago today actually and it was exponentially harder than quitting analogs. Ease of use and more frequency due to ease of use increased the addiction. My withdrawals lasted 2 weeks instead of 3-4 days. __________________ AIM - Choopa Phil Email - [email protected] A World Wide Leader In Hosting! * CHOOPA.COM *

05-20-2016, 12:30 PM	#47
arock10 Confirmed User Join Date: Jan 2006 Posts: 6,218	__________________ Sup

05-21-2016, 04:44 AM	#49
AdultKing Raise Your Weapon Industry Role: Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Outback Australia Posts: 15,601	I'll stick to Winfield.