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Old 06-06-2016, 09:36 PM   #1
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Hillary Clinton will be the First female President.

http://www.nytimes.com/2016/06/07/us...race.html?_r=0

Now Sanders is out of the way, she will storm ahead. Between Clinton and Trump, she's the only choice. By November Trump's dodgy deals will be so exposed he won't stand a chance.
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I don't like/trust the woman, it's a shame she will probably go down in history as the first US president. I'm all for a woman being president, just wish it was somebody more well deserving of that place in history.

I was on the Trump Train briefly but he's far crazier than I thought he was, I thought a large part of his act was well, an act, he is a showman. But the longer this goes on he looks worse. His refusal to educate himself on issues beyond opinions off the top of his head, often ignorant, is alarming. Yeah, we get it Donald, we don't win any more, at trade, with our military, with anything and you're going to hire the best people to make America great again. I think the one who is the most surprised he is where he is today is Donald Trump, I think he got into this because he loves attention and free publicity and boy did he get it but something funny happened along the way, he struck a chord with a large enough % of a fractured party with a large field of candidates who took votes from each other allowing Trump to defeat them all.
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sorry paul. not only will she not be president, she wont even be the democrat nominee. Maybe you dont realize, the times does not report facts. they tell fairy tales, where only 1800 pledged delegates magically equals 2300.

i myself dont understand liberal math. but real math says she didnt clinch anything.

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I don't trust Hillary simply because she smiles while she talks. It's like listening to a used car salesman.

She is attached at the hip to wallstreet and her supporting banks. It's just that simple. The last 2 decades of presidents all have jammed up the national debt, and Hillary is part of the same bank owned crew.

I don't see any change with Hillary and I hope she doesn't become the Prez.

She's just a bank owned puppet.

I rather have an obnoxious asshole run this country, because an obnoxious asshole CAN get things done.

You think Putin and Kim jun fuck face will be afraid of Hillary?? LOL But they will piss their pants when Trump has his finger on the button.
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I don't trust Hillary simply because she smiles while she talks. It's like listening to a used car salesman.

She is attached at the hip to wallstreet and her supporting banks. It's just that simple. The last 2 decades of presidents all have jammed up the national debt, and Hillary is part of the same bank owned crew.

I don't see any change with Hillary and I hope she doesn't become the Prez.

She's just a bank owned puppet.

I rather have an obnoxious asshole run this country, because an obnoxious asshole CAN get things done.

You think Putin and Kim jun fuck face will be afraid of Hillary?? LOL But they will piss their pants when Trump has his finger on the button.
I was gonna write this...so I'll just quote you.
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Given a choice between a do nothing criminal and a do something megalomaniac fraudster -- I guess do nothing is the better alternative.

Either way, we are going to be in a new economic recession by 2018 or 2019 most likely no matter who is in the White House.
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I was gonna write this...so I'll just quote you.
You do realize that big business has moved to the Democratic party over the last decade right?

Its no coincidence that wall street is backing Hillary & every big corporation boycotts, in unison, against socially injustice laws, etc. Think about it.
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isn't california and new jersey voting today, with high delegate counts?

i mean, one week indicted, the next president..

who even needs the actual election
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I don't trust Hillary simply because she smiles while she talks. It's like listening to a used car salesman.

She is attached at the hip to wallstreet and her supporting banks. It's just that simple. The last 2 decades of presidents all have jammed up the national debt, and Hillary is part of the same bank owned crew.

I don't see any change with Hillary and I hope she doesn't become the Prez.

She's just a bank owned puppet.

I rather have an obnoxious asshole run this country, because an obnoxious asshole CAN get things done.

You think Putin and Kim jun fuck face will be afraid of Hillary?? LOL But they will piss their pants when Trump has his finger on the button.
Clinton is a diseased whore. Worse cause she's really aggressively looking for new clients.
Trump is no box of chocolate but he'll have the turds worried. I don't mind that.
Whatever the JYTimes says is just banker bankrolled bullshit.
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sorry paul. not only will she not be president, she wont even be the democrat nominee. Maybe you dont realize, the times does not report facts. they tell fairy tales, where only 1800 pledged delegates magically equals 2300.

i myself dont understand liberal math. but real math says she didnt clinch anything.

So who will be the next President?
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I think you are correct sir
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I don't trust Hillary simply because she smiles while she talks. It's like listening to a used car salesman.

She is attached at the hip to wallstreet and her supporting banks. It's just that simple. The last 2 decades of presidents all have jammed up the national debt, and Hillary is part of the same bank owned crew.

I don't see any change with Hillary and I hope she doesn't become the Prez.

She's just a bank owned puppet.

I rather have an obnoxious asshole run this country, because an obnoxious asshole CAN get things done.

You think Putin and Kim jun fuck face will be afraid of Hillary?? LOL But they will piss their pants when Trump has his finger on the button.
Americans have been voting for politicians controlled by big money for a very long time. The Supreme Court made it official that anyone with enough money can buy America.

Russia will match the US $ for $ in military spending, and you will pay for it.

Kim is already scared of the US.

Of course, an obnoxious asshole CAN get things done. Do you have any kids of military age that could find out what he has done to them?

You will find out how he bankrupts the US, raises your cost of living or fails to anything att all.
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Americans have been voting for politicians controlled by big money for a very long time. The Supreme Court made it official that anyone with enough money can buy America.

Russia will match the US $ for $ in military spending, and you will pay for it.

Kim is already scared of the US.

Of course, an obnoxious asshole CAN get things done. Do you have any kids of military age that could find out what he has done to them?

You will find out how he bankrupts the US, raises your cost of living or fails to anything att all.
Russia won't match the US for military spending.. Russia doesn't have to buy $20,000 USD machine guns and trillion dollar submarines.

They can do the same or better at fractions of the cost. Kinda like how they have the same products being sold at 1/4 of the cost for western worlds

Corruption runs our militaries now (or always)
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Best answer yet! My hat is off to you, sir.
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So who will be the next President?
there are future events that will shape public opinion, so who knows. Trump will probably get shot by the time we vote. what i do know is that hilary has a uber-stinky vagina. that hole cannot be let anywhere near levers of power.

i'd rather have this guy for president...



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The American political system was bought a long time ago.

And most Americans are fine with it. Or they wouldn't vote for the people standing.



Buying politicians is legal in the US.

In fact, without the money only big business can give no one has a chance because Americans are impressed by lots of gaudy campaigns and spending.



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You do realize that big business has moved to the Democratic party over the last decade right?

Its no coincidence that wall street is backing Hillary & every big corporation boycotts, in unison, against socially injustice laws, etc. Think about it.
The difference between the two parties is minimal. There's the Right and the Righter. Then the tea drinking Fringe Nutty Right. Yet they still get votes. So not that much of a fringe party, like we have the Greens.
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Clinton is a diseased whore. Worse cause she's really aggressively looking for new clients.
Trump is no box of chocolate but he'll have the turds worried. I don't mind that.
Whatever the JYTimes says is just banker bankrolled bullshit.
To scare people, one has to be prepared or go further than the present threat. Because as he says America isn't scary enough now.

That means war. Not with people who worship death. So who do you think Trump will pick to go to war with and how much will it cost in dollars, lives and cripples before he realises he was wrong?

Did you vote for Bush?
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there are future events that will shape public opinion, so who knows. Trump will probably get shot by the time we vote. what i do know is that hilary has a uber-stinky vagina. that hole cannot be let anywhere near levers of power.

i'd rather have this guy for president...



A man that has been convicted in court v a WOMEN WHO HASN'T.

A man who is back in court and about to get his ass handed to him v A WOMAN WHO ISN'T.

Is your hate based on sexism and what is your opinion of having a Black President?

As for rather have this guy. What makes you think Trump won't go to war a lot more than Hillary?

He's also controlled by his bankers. Anyone that thinks he's not, shouldn't be allowed to vote.
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To scare people, one has to be prepared or go further than the present threat. Because as he says America isn't scary enough now.

That means war. Not with people who worship death. So who do you think Trump will pick to go to war with and how much will it cost in dollars, lives and cripples before he realises he was wrong?

Did you vote for Bush?
Vote for Bush? Are you out of your friggin mind? lol. Here's the deal. We can choose an anti-war guy who is into making money. His university a scam? Whatever. America is a scam. He's into business and we're all small business owners here. Well, small business owners and McDonalds fry cooks. But I digress.

On the other hand you have a woman who is a traitor and a clown and loves to go to war.
And she does it badly.

I won't be voting for either. Both are a horror show.
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Trump has never been convicted of any crime.

A loser in a civil suit is not a criminal -- he is a loser; and pays the damage claims, and/or is subject to what a Court would order otherwise, or in addition.


For the simple minded name callers around here;
Neither an old tangerine man with a pin-dick or a old wrinkled up cunt seem like a good choice to me -- is that dumbed down enough for you?
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joke president or joke president
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I was hoping that the Trump run would show other non-career politician outsiders that you can run for president successfully - but he's one in 100 million, he had the celebrity thing, the billionaire businessman status, and most importantly the outrageous personality and energy to get himself tens of millions of dollars of free advertising - who else can do that?

The Republicans need to re-invent themselves as a party - the moderate establishment goes off and forms a new party and leaves the Tea Party/Evangelicals to themselves. There's no way the moderates can kick out the far right, so they best move on. It's crazy how just 2 parties have existed for over 2 centuries - the Founding Fathers didn't even envision a party system but it didn't take long for them to form.

I really don't want Hillary Clinton to win but I think Trump has scared off a huge number of independents and Democrats who would vote Republican if the candidate appealed to them more than Clinton.
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A man that has been convicted in court v a WOMEN WHO HASN'T.

A man who is back in court and about to get his ass handed to him v A WOMAN WHO ISN'T.

Is your hate based on sexism and what is your opinion of having a Black President?

As for rather have this guy. What makes you think Trump won't go to war a lot more than Hillary?

He's also controlled by his bankers. Anyone that thinks he's not, shouldn't be allowed to vote.
yoyo! lets talk reality, not markham-world. trump is not convicted of nothing, civil judgements are not crimes, bro fyi. hilary is like OJ, she did it, but is getting away with it. doesnt change the fact she did it. she's a felon, fact.

yes paul, the FBI is going to chop off hilarys roast beef & gnaw on it in public view.

i have always been comfortable with obamas blackness. the identity obsession, putting women in infantry positions while losing to ISIS, thats a loser of a president.

difference between trump & hilary on war is that trump will win.

Trump doesnt get controlled by bankers. he is a banker. trump mortgage! get your facts right, man. from the sound of it, not even trumps campaign can control trump, nevermind bankers.

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Trump has never been convicted of any crime.

A loser in a civil suit is not a criminal -- he is a loser; and pays the damage claims, and/or is subject to what a Court would order otherwise, or in addition.


For the simple minded name callers around here;
Neither an old tangerine man with a pin-dick or a old wrinkled up cunt seem like a good choice to me -- is that dumbed down enough for you?
Maybe drop it a notch for some of the lefties.
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I don't trust Hillary simply because she smiles while she talks. It's like listening to a used car salesman.

She is attached at the hip to wallstreet and her supporting banks. It's just that simple. The last 2 decades of presidents all have jammed up the national debt, and Hillary is part of the same bank owned crew.

I don't see any change with Hillary and I hope she doesn't become the Prez.

She's just a bank owned puppet.

I rather have an obnoxious asshole run this country, because an obnoxious asshole CAN get things done.

You think Putin and Kim jun fuck face will be afraid of Hillary?? LOL But they will piss their pants when Trump has his finger on the button.
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Paul Ryan is kicking himself for not running this cycle.
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Drumpf can save it he just needs to launch his new slogan:

I'M WITH HAIR!!!

.... Nah... Hillary will indeed be our next POTUS.
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Vote for Bush? Are you out of your friggin mind? lol. Here's the deal. We can choose an anti-war guy who is into making money. His university a scam? Whatever. America is a scam. He's into business and we're all small business owners here. Well, small business owners and McDonalds fry cooks. But I digress.

On the other hand you have a woman who is a traitor and a clown and loves to go to war.
And she does it badly.

I won't be voting for either. Both are a horror show.
Trump is on record saying he will go to war. He will spend your money building the Armed Forces, then expect everyone to do as they're told. When they call his bluff he has no option but to go to war. If he doesn't everyone will call his bluff and make the US a laughing stock.

Yes clinton has been in the Cabinet that went to war. When did she commit US troops into battle?

The obvious choice was to vote Sanders. Nothing would scare both parties more than him being elected. Then they might just sit down and rethink their strategies.

Problem with that is too many Americans are brainwashed.
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it's staggering that a career politician, fully entrenched inside the beltway, pathological habitual liar, in bed with Wall Street fat cats, who's entire platform is to maintain the status quo and direction of the USA, war monger who voted for the Iraq war, currently under criminal investigation by the FBI is their guy.
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I was hoping that the Trump run would show other non-career politician outsiders that you can run for president successfully - but he's one in 100 million, he had the celebrity thing, the billionaire businessman status, and most importantly the outrageous personality and energy to get himself tens of millions of dollars of free advertising - who else can do that?

The Republicans need to re-invent themselves as a party - the moderate establishment goes off and forms a new party and leaves the Tea Party/Evangelicals to themselves. There's no way the moderates can kick out the far right, so they best move on. It's crazy how just 2 parties have existed for over 2 centuries - the Founding Fathers didn't even envision a party system but it didn't take long for them to form.

I really don't want Hillary Clinton to win but I think Trump has scared off a huge number of independents and Democrats who would vote Republican if the candidate appealed to them more than Clinton.
Until Americans are prepared to vote for outsiders like Sanders in big numbers. There's no chance of change.

Here's something I learned a long time ago.

If you want to see change, change yourself first.
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The obvious choice was to vote Sanders. Nothing would scare both parties more than him being elected. Then they might just sit down and rethink their strategies.

Problem with that is too many Americans are brainwashed.
knock it off.


anybody who stated otr that their guy is Sanders has had their sincerity challenged by you for that.
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Until Americans are prepared to vote for outsiders like Sanders in big numbers. There's no chance of change.

Here's something I learned a long time ago.

If you want to see change, change yourself first.
you keep telling yourself that in the mirror but don't expect others to buy your nonsense.
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yoyo! lets talk reality, not markham-world. trump is not convicted of nothing, civil judgements are not crimes, bro fyi. hilary is like OJ, she did it, but is getting away with it. doesnt change the fact she did it. she's a felon, fact.

yes paul, the FBI is going to chop off hilarys roast beef & gnaw on it in public view.

i have always been comfortable with obamas blackness. the identity obsession, putting women in infantry positions while losing to ISIS, thats a loser of a president.

difference between trump & hilary on war is that trump will win.

Trump doesnt get controlled by bankers. he is a banker. trump mortgage! get your facts right, man. from the sound of it, not even trumps campaign can control trump, nevermind bankers.

Convicted of a civil misdoing. About to go into court yet again and get his ass handed to him,

Is Fraud a crime?

Trump is controlled by the people he owes money to, to build the hotels. He will also be controlled by the World Banks. Who do you think is buying US debt? You won't find many individuals there.
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Until Americans are prepared to vote for outsiders like Sanders in big numbers. There's no chance of change.

Here's something I learned a long time ago.

If you want to see change, change yourself first.
why do you pretend you want an "outsider", when you really want a socialist?
Trump is 10x more of an "outsider" than Sanders ever was... and yet given the choice between "outsider" Trump and career-politician Hillary whose presidency will 100% surely result in 4 more years of status quo, you pick Hillary...
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Americans rely on US Bonds being bought at a low rate of interest. Previous Presidents have sold you down the line. Along with us and our Governments.

Should the Ratings Agency decide Trump is a bad egg, your interest goes up, along with your debt. Should he piss off the Chinese, EU or anyone else? The Bonds might not get sold as advantageously.

All of our economies rely on cheap debt. Therefore putting us all in the hands of the Bankers. Trump's personal wealth is not known. I suspect he's riding a debt mountain. Even his Mortgage Company is in the business of selling those mortgages to other banks.

Remember what happened in 2008?

Yes, Hillary is the best option, she will play to the tunes others whistle. If Trump does that, you're no better off.
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so markham, you don't understand debt markets either. got it.
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She also holds corruption, just not to the extent that trump does.
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wait the words "Hillary" and " illuminati" both have the letter "i"in them. The letter "i" sounds like the word "eye" The illuminati also has an eye in the middle of the triangle. Hillary= illuminati confirmed. I'm done...
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FYI Criminal Fraud in the US requires proof beyond doubt of criminal mens rea or what is common known as intent.

Failing in a business venture and by circumstance screwing customers, employees and/or creditors is failing in business -- civil fraud with suits for damages claimed by the plaintiffs.

There is no criminal law barring fucking-up or being stupid -- we couldn't afford to build the jail space if there was
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Suck it up, Dynamo:

Hillary will win.
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yes, ********** is right. Americans like me need to suck up the fact that foreigners like him and the op support corrupt politicians like hillary to run another country, thank you **********, https://gfy.com/fucking-around-and-pr...rkprinces.html


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