Watch and listen with an open mind

[Paul Markham]

Change will only come if you change yourself.

[wehateporn]

Trump is the US version of Brexit

[NewNick]

Originally Posted by wehateporn

Trump is the US version of Brexit

No shit.

[wehateporn]

Originally Posted by NewNick

No shit.

Now we need to see if the American's have balls as big as the British

[Paul Markham]

Originally Posted by wehateporn

Trump is the US version of Brexit

Precisely. The British voted against the will of the establishment. A vote for Trump is the same vote.

Will either scare the establishment enough to make them work for the people instead of themselves?

This is how some establishment newspapers are reacting. US | The Independent

[Barry-xlovecam]

This just proves what I already know -- you can bags of shit as bags of gold to the public.
Just wrap them with a pretty ribbon.
The fools open them a year after the election.

Libertards will say look at GW Bush elected twice.
Conservitards will say look at Obama elected twice.

Economically I got by fine with each interest group in power.
Shit never changes really -- only trends do.

[dyna mo]

its fucking lolz to read an internet troll thinks 100s of millions of Americans need to change into people he deems worthy. markhack, you spend all day trolling while your significant other goes out and earns a living to pay the bills.

Originally Posted by wehateporn

Now we need to see if the American's have balls as big as the British

like that clown boris? or gove that threw him under the bus? or cameron who quit? or all the brits that are now googling wtf is eu? or all the brexiters exclaiming we were kidding can we vote over?

stick to fucking up facts on vaccines.

and heads up: we showed you brit clowns our big fucking nutsack when we teabagged you back in the day and as we continue to teabag you.

[CaptainHowdy]

Good intentions don't survive here ...

[Paul Markham]

Originally Posted by Barry-xlovecam

This just proves what I already know -- you can bags of shit as bags of gold to the public.
Just wrap them with a pretty ribbon.
The fools open them a year after the election.

Libertards will say look at GW Bush elected twice.
Conservitards will say look at Obama elected twice.

Economically I got by fine with each interest group in power.
Shit never changes really -- only trends do.

Very true. It's a tribute to the Establishment that they got Bush elected once, to do it again shows real genius. Or stupidity of those who voted.

Obama was blocked too often by the GOP to be effective. He has made mistakes, bombing Libya one of them and not clamping down on migration. Overall he has done better than some give him credit for.

Trying to whittle down the US democracy on a President. Shows a lack of understanding.

[Paul Markham]

Originally Posted by dyna mo

its fucking lolz to read an internet troll thinks 100s of millions of Americans need to change into people he deems worthy. markhack, you spend all day trolling while your significant other goes out and earns a living to pay the bills.

Yes WE need to change if we want our lives to change.

I do agree that you need to go out to work while I don't and have the time to troll. Are you rich enough to have the time or unemployed?

like that clown boris? or gove that threw him under the bus? or cameron who quit? or all the brits that are now googling wtf is eu? or all the brexiters exclaiming we were kidding can we vote over?

Surprised with Boris. As for having to Google what the EU is? I can see you believe the establishment. What if all those Googling it were IN voters?

[oppoten]

Originally Posted by Barry-xlovecam

This just proves what I already know -- you can bags of shit as bags of gold to the public.
Just wrap them with a pretty ribbon.
The fools open them a year after the election.

Libertards will say look at GW Bush elected twice.
Conservitards will say look at Obama elected twice.

Economically I got by fine with each interest group in power.
Shit never changes really -- only trends do.

[wehateporn]

Originally Posted by dyna mo

like that clown boris? or gove that threw him under the bus? or cameron who quit? or all the brits that are now googling wtf is eu? or all the brexiters exclaiming we were kidding can we vote over?

Boris was really working for the other side, as soon as he became PM he was going to do another deal with the EU, not bring us out, Murdoch and Co discovered this in time

[MiamiBoyz]

RIP - USA

American's a pussies...soft and easy to manipulate...our grandfathers are rolling in their graves!

Lazy fucks who are fat and shop at Walmart and pretend that child labour is not the reason they can get that shit so cheap.

Pussies who drive electric cars and think they are making one bit of difference. Recycle don't understand it all goes in the same landfill. Morons

Trump could make America great again but the people...as I already stated are fucking pussies and scared of work or change. Fuck you

A fake black man for a president and now a "woman" who is nothing more than a career politician and what its got between its legs doesn't mean shit to those soulless shit stains.

RIP - USA

[pimpmaster9000]

there is no going back...

you can deport all the immigrants, make a white only country, all wear swastikas etc etc

fact is:

nobody wants to hire expensive western workers or buy expensive goods...no going back...

you can completely block all imports, still nobody will want to hire expensive workers or buy expensive goods...and you can kiss your exports goodbye, you can not force people to buy your expensive shit...

its like "make blockbuster great again" deporting immigrants, building walls etc will not make people watch VHS

[dyna mo]

Originally Posted by Paul Markham

Yes WE need to change if we want our lives to change.

I do agree that you need to go out to work while I don't and have the time to troll. Are you rich enough to have the time or unemployed?

Surprised with Boris. As for having to Google what the EU is? I can see you believe the establishment. What if all those Googling it were IN voters?

Don't worry your shriveled up brain cell about me markhack, you portray yourself as not having to work while yo u send your wife off to work to make money to keep the candle lit in your bfe village in eastern Europe.

Re: Google, I didn't state which side did the googling because that's not my point. The point was obviously too complex for you to consider, you were using your 1 brain cell to worry about how dyna mo lives.

[bronco67]

When it comes to the choice between these two awful choices, I'll repost Louis CK's great analogy because it sums it up perfectly.

It’s like if you were on a plane and you wanted to choose a pilot. You have one person, Hillary, who says, 'Here’s my license. Here’s all the thousands of flights that I’ve flown. Here’s planes I’ve flown in really difficult situations. I’ve had some good flights and some bad flights, but I’ve been flying for a very long time, and I know exactly how this plane works.' Then you’ve got Bernie, who says, 'Everyone should get a ride right to their house with this plane.' 'Well, how are you going to do that?' 'I just think we should. It’s only fair that everyone gets to use the plane equally.' And then Trump says, 'I’m going to fly so well. You’re not going to believe how good I’m going to fly this plane, and by the way, Hillary never flew a plane in her life.' 'She did, and we have pictures.' 'No, she never did it.' It’s insane. — Louis C.K.

By the way, Trump is in the worst possible position now simply because his brand is all about being a "winner". He wasn't been "winning" in the two areas that matter in the run-up to the general election --- the polls and the news cycle. He's been losing like crazy and it has to be the most frustrating thing for a narcissistic ego-maniac surrounded by yes men.

[dyna mo]

That's the stupidest analogy I've ever heard. No wonder libtards are clueless, they need comedians to explain their world to them in comedic analogies that don't even make sense.

[ilnjscb]

Two good articles, or rather interesting ones, detailing the global crisis of liberalism. They very clearly state that the liberal elite absolutely did not know of the prevailing sentiment in their own countries. I think they are very honest accounts, without all the usual stupid name calling that the foot soldiers in both parties engage in.

What Brexit tells us about the crisis of liberal politics - Washington Post

BREXIT MAKES THE U.S. THE LAST, BEST HOPE FOR LIBERALISM

I wonder if anyone can point me to any analogous posts in the right media? Ie. not chuckleheaded crowing but reasoned analysis? I don't have a sense of whether they're as shocked, and where they intend to go with this.

[bronco67]

Originally Posted by dyna mo

That's the stupidest analogy I've ever heard. No wonder libtards are clueless, they need comedians to explain their world to them in comedic analogies that don't even make sense.

Believe me, you're not even half as smart as Louis CK.

It looks like your nasty persona is finally emerging again. It's only a matter of time before you're frothing at the mouth and your blood is boiling. It's got to be tough trying to fake being a normal person. The facade can only hold up for so long.

[Paul Markham]

Originally Posted by wehateporn

Boris was really working for the other side, as soon as he became PM he was going to do another deal with the EU, not bring us out, Murdoch and Co discovered this in time

It's very surprising that he stepped aside. What worries me about May is she will do a bad deal with the EU.

She should be pushing for other countries to hold their referendums. Then the EU is over and we go back to the Common Market, where we all trade with each other without unelected politicians and bureaucrats running Europe.

[Paul Markham]

Originally Posted by MiamiBoyz

RIP - USA

American's a pussies...soft and easy to manipulate...our grandfathers are rolling in their graves!

Lazy fucks who are fat and shop at Walmart and pretend that child labour is not the reason they can get that shit so cheap.

Spot on.

Pussies who drive electric cars and think they are making one bit of difference. Recycle don't understand it all goes in the same landfill. Morons

Wrong.

Trump could make America great again but the people...as I already stated are fucking pussies and scared of work or change. Fuck you

Delusional.

A fake black man for a president and now a "woman" who is nothing more than a career politician and what its got between its legs doesn't mean shit to those soulless shit stains.

Obama was the best chance America had to change the system. The establishment brainwashed too many to give him the chance.

[Paul Markham]

Originally Posted by crucifissio

there is no going back...

you can deport all the immigrants, make a white only country, all wear swastikas etc etc

fact is:

nobody wants to hire expensive western workers or buy expensive goods...no going back...

you can completely block all imports, still nobody will want to hire expensive workers or buy expensive goods...and you can kiss your exports goodbye, you can not force people to buy your expensive shit...

its like "make blockbuster great again" deporting immigrants, building walls etc will not make people watch VHS

Goods will rise in price and maybe kill any chance the people have of getting their countries back. At the present rate, it will take China 20 years tops to take the banking and service industries the West rely on. Google therise in power of Chinese Banking.

[dyna mo]

Originally Posted by bronco67

Believe me, you're not even half as smart as Louis CK.

It looks like your nasty persona is finally emerging again. It's only a matter of time before you're frothing at the mouth and your blood is boiling. It's got to be tough trying to fake being a normal person. The facade can only hold up for so long.

you have a problem with reality, i pointed that out, quite nicely, especially after your drive-by cocksucking bullshit about me defending assholes. so gofuckyourfuckwaddyself with your bullshit about me while you act like a cocksucking fuckwad.

i could have ripped your fucking face off, and should have, just for fun, i declined. but you're always a fuckwad and never pass an opportunity for you to be a fuckwad. and you will always be the dumbfuckwad you are. regardless of my trying to treat you with respect for a period of time. you failed at deserving that.

you are a complete piece of shit.

[Paul Markham]

Originally Posted by dyna mo

Don't worry your shriveled up brain cell about me markhack, you portray yourself as not having to work while yo u send your wife off to work to make money to keep the candle lit in your bfe village in eastern Europe.

Re: Google, I didn't state which side did the googling because that's not my point. The point was obviously too complex for you to consider, you were using your 1 brain cell to worry about how dyna mo lives.

So those who voted In or Out don't understand what the EU has done for them. And after the election tried to find out. You're too dumb to see how stupid you are.

Yes after 50years workingI now live on my private pensions. I received a big payout recently from an investment made 30 years ago. Getting another one soon and that's even bigger.

You're stariting to sound like Damian Jennings, he has a lot of time like you to post nonsense. I was told he'sunemployed, what's your excuse?

[dyna mo]

Originally Posted by bronco67

Believe me, you're not even half as smart as Louis CK.

It looks like your nasty persona is finally emerging again. It's only a matter of time before you're frothing at the mouth and your blood is boiling. It's got to be tough trying to fake being a normal person. The facade can only hold up for so long.

you're also a fucking pussy playing victim too, fuckwad. you post as if you're not at all a part of how you interact with others. boo fucking hoo bronco got bitchslapped out of the blue and never once makes assholey comments.

you fucking pussy piece of shit. grow some fucking balls and take responsibility for your participation in your own fucking life, fucking welfare clown. victim, my fucking ass.

fuck you.

[Paul Markham]

Originally Posted by ilnjscb

Two good articles, or rather interesting ones, detailing the global crisis of liberalism. They very clearly state that the liberal elite absolutely did not know of the prevailing sentiment in their own countries. I think they are very honest accounts, without all the usual stupid name calling that the foot soldiers in both parties engage in.

What Brexit tells us about the crisis of liberal politics - Washington Post

BREXIT MAKES THE U.S. THE LAST, BEST HOPE FOR LIBERALISM

I wonder if anyone can point me to any analogous posts in the right media? Ie. not chuckleheaded crowing but reasoned analysis? I don't have a sense of whether they're as shocked, and where they intend to go with this.

Looking at the areas that voted IN, it's clear that most of the working class nad lower middle class have been made worse off by the EU. Inner London is very much migrant areas and they're afraid migration controls will stop more of their families coming.

The most obvious change is the price their children will have to pay for a roof over their heads, NHS treatment, education, social services and policing.

Politicians have a duty to their voters first and last. The problem is Farage, he's a hindrance to the changes the UK needs to make. He's too easy a target for the lib libtards.

[dyna mo]

Originally Posted by Paul Markham

So those who voted In or Out don't understand what the EU has done for them. And after the election tried to find out. You're too dumb to see how stupid you are.

Yes after 50years workingI now live on my private pensions. I received a big payout recently from an investment made 30 years ago. Getting another one soon and that's even bigger.

You're stariting to sound like Damian Jennings, he has a lot of time like you to post nonsense. I was told he'sunemployed, what's your excuse?

i don't need a fucking excuse markhack. you're too fucking obtuse to figure out you choose to be in the political threads, i don't choose that for you. you're here to troll, don't be a fucking pussy like bronco when gfyes troll you back. you don't see me fucking around in your 50 years in the business thread, etc. there's a fucking reason for that. think about it. thiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiink.

[dyna mo]

for the 2 dimwits:

ob·tuse

əbˈt(y)o͞os,äbˈt(y)o͞os/Submit

synonyms: stupid, slow-witted, slow, dull-witted, unintelligent, ignorant, simpleminded, witless;

[Struggle4Bucks]

That which now calls itself democracy differs from older forms of government solely in that it drives with new horses: the streets are still the same old streets, and the wheels are likewise the same old wheels.

–Friedrich Nietzsche
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Democracy means the opportunity to be everyone’s slave.

–Karl Kraus
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I do not believe in the collective wisdom of individual ignorance.

–Thomas Carlyle
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Liberty of the people is not my liberty!

–Max Stirner
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The intellect of two thousand asses cannot bring forth a single man’s thought.


Democracy is a system where people are counted not weighed.

–Mohammad Iqbal
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The biggest argument against democracy is a five minute discussion with the average voter.

–Winston Churchill
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Voting is sort of like being asked if you’d like a punch in the head or gut. Since I don’t want to be punched at all, I don’t see why I should participate in the farce.

–lupoleboucher
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[mineistaken]

Took me 1 second to turn it off once I saw that libby scum presenter. He is well know for twisting Trumps views/words, just like Rochard and other libby idiots.

[Paul Markham]

Originally Posted by dyna mo

i don't need a fucking excuse markhack. you're too fucking obtuse to figure out you choose to be in the political threads, i don't choose that for you. you're here to troll, don't be a fucking pussy like bronco when gfyes troll you back. you don't see me fucking around in your 50 years in the business thread, etc. there's a fucking reason for that. think about it. thiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiink.

It's hard for a nobody who is scared to reveal who he is. To troll a veteran who everyone does or can easily find out what he did for 50 years.

Lets get back to why people think so many voted out of the EU?

1. Their lives have been made worse by the EU.
2. Their future will get worse by being in the EU.

No one has to Google to find out how their life has changed.

[Paul Markham]

That which now calls itself democracy differs from older forms of government solely in that it drives with new horses: the streets are still the same old streets, and the wheels are likewise the same old wheels.

?Friedrich Nietzsche
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Democracy means the opportunity to be everyone?s slave.

?Karl Kraus
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I do not believe in the collective wisdom of individual ignorance.

?Thomas Carlyle
----------------------------------

Liberty of the people is not my liberty!

?Max Stirner
---------------------------------

The intellect of two thousand asses cannot bring forth a single man?s thought.


Democracy is a system where people are counted not weighed.

?Mohammad Iqbal
--------------------------------

The biggest argument against democracy is a five minute discussion with the average voter.

?Winston Churchill
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Voting is sort of like being asked if you?d like a punch in the head or gut. Since I don?t want to be punched at all, I don?t see why I should participate in the farce.

?lupoleboucher
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So the Elite have spoken and youthink they shoud rule you. Grow a pair of balls.

[Paul Markham]

Originally Posted by mineistaken

Took me 1 second to turn it off once I saw that libby scum presenter. He is well know for twisting Trumps views/words, just like Rochard and other libby idiots.

Twisting people words, something a die-hard Republican would never do.

It's hard to twist words these days, they're there on Youtube for all to see.

Why not give us examples of what he said and what you think he meant.

[Struggle4Bucks]

Originally Posted by Paul Markham

So the Elite have spoken and youthink they shoud rule you. Grow a pair of balls.

No one rules me... You don't get that concept because you don't have the intelligence (can't blame you for that... it is what it is) to look behind your indoctrinated voting-slave mentality. You are the one who's getting ruled... whether it's by the old establishment or the new establishment...

Grow a pair of brains...

I dropped some quotes as a pedagogic attempt to enlighten you... but you are so stuck in your slave-thinking that it's simply a waste of time...
You can't learn an old dog new tricks...

[mineistaken]

Originally Posted by Paul Markham

Twisting people words, something a die-hard Republican would never do.

It's hard to twist words these days, they're there on Youtube for all to see.

Why not give us examples of what he said and what you think he meant.

That libby scum from the video claimed that Trump said "Mexicans were rapists".
While Trump said "part of the illegals were rapists".

Know the difference between all Mexicans and part of the illegals? 100% VS 0.0001% if even that? Pretty close huh? But for libbies it is supposedly the same. That is how they brainwash the audience, with "innocent" fact twisting like that.

Disgusting and shady.