News U.K. Seeks £250K Fines for Noncomplying Porn Sites

[DVTimes]

The U.K. government today published its Digital Economy Bill, which includes a section that would create an age-verification regulator and impose financial penalties for noncomplying adult entertainment sites that stream content into the nation, as well as their payment service providers and advertisers.

U.K. Seeks £250K Fines for Noncomplying Porn Sites - XBIZ.com

[freecartoonporn]

how do you verify age of person online ?

[celandina]

They should ban access to the Jihadi sites instead of worrying about "tits and ass"...There are 100s of websites teaching young teens how to build suicide vests , how to behead innocents and why it is OK to have sex with a young girls as long us you do not do it with their mothers at the same time and NOBODY CARES!!! But oops that would encroach on freedom of speech..

...they opted out from EU now they will opt out from civilisation..they can all go and

[Paul Markham]

Originally Posted by freecartoonporn

how do you verify age of person online ?

They won' t let a little point like that stop them from passing stupid laws.

Personally, I would welcome such a bill if it were possible to identify the age of the viewer. It's impossible so why bother?

[Mr.Fiction]

Originally Posted by DVTimes

U.K. Seeks £250K Fines for Noncomplying Porn Sites - XBIZ.com

Sounds like China or Iran. They want to control what content their citizens can read and view.

[baddog]

Originally Posted by freecartoonporn

how do you verify age of person online ?

Credit cards

[Axeman]

Originally Posted by baddog

Credit cards

Only possible if they don't allow any pre-paid bins to work. Still not fool proof but better than nothing I suppose.

[AnimeFevers]

If you don't want underage people visiting porn sites it's parents responsibility to add a child lock... It's not fucking rocket science

[Google Expert]

Originally Posted by freecartoonporn

how do you verify age of person online ?

- "Just enter your credit card number right here, Sir. This is just for age verification. You won't be charged, promise."

2 days later...

- "WTF, i'm out of $160"

- "you've been 12clicked, sucker!"

[Google Expert]

Originally Posted by AnimeFevers

If you don't want underage people visiting porn sites it's parents responsibility to add a child lock... It's not fucking rocket science

Computer wise, kids run circles around their parents these days.

a 6 y/o can hack the shit out of you.

[ianmoone332000]

I dont know how this is gonna work. They need to age verify on every porn site they visit?

[MaDalton]

GFY: blablabla not gonna work blablabla

Germany: working age verification for 10+ years and no free porn on .de domains

[arock10]

Originally Posted by Muad'Dib

- "Just enter your credit card number right here, Sir. This is just for age verification. You won't be charged, promise."

2 days later...

- "WTF, i'm out of $160"

- "you've been 12clicked, sucker!"

Lol lol had to chuckle about that one

[freecartoonporn]

Originally Posted by Muad'Dib

- "Just enter your credit card number right here, Sir. This is just for age verification. You won't be charged, promise."

2 days later...

- "WTF, i'm out of $160"

- "you've been 12clicked, sucker!"

this . . good old days are coming back.

[Barry-xlovecam]

They tried this in the USA with the COPA law -- the US Courts struck that law down as unconstitutional.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Child_...Protection_Act

[DVTimes]

Digital Economy Bill: Networks and porn sites face fines

If the bill is passed, Ofcom would be able to fine mobile networks a maximum £20,000 a day, up to a total sum of £2m, if they fail to hit agreed service goals.

The regulator has suggested this would give it "more flexibility in our important work to manage and ensure optimal use of spectrum".

"At the moment, when a provider breaches its licence, in most cases our only sanction is to remove the licence completely, or launch criminal proceedings," a spokesman said.

"The bill would allow Ofcom alternatively to impose financial penalties, which may in some cases be a more proportionate means of securing compliance."

Age checks

The law also proposes creating a separate age-verification regulator, which will be told to publish guidelines about how sites should ensure their users are aged 18 or older.

It says this body should be able to fine pornographers up to £250,000 if they fail to comply.

Details of how this would work in practice have still to be determined.

But the bill states that the watchdog would be able to alert credit cards and other payment providers as well as other companies providing a service to the sites in cases where it cannot persuade their owners to comply.

[DVTimes]

Brits facing internet porn block and this is the date when shock laws come into force

The days of freely watching adult content online are numbered.

New laws will soon mean X-rated websites will be have to check a users? age before they will be allowed to access adult content.

The Government announced the measures as part of its new Digital Economy Bill, which is aimed at keeping kids, and adults, safe online.

Although the Bill is being rushed through it's currently unclear how the block will be enforced and how users will verify their age.

Some rumours have suggested that adults wanting to access porn will have to be age checked at their local Post Office while other reports have indicated a mobile phone or credit card could be used to make sure people are over 18.

Speaking about the issues facing the new laws director at identity data intelligence specialists GBG, Karyn Bright said: "Just asking someone ?Are you over 18?? isn?t enough.

"A child accessing 18+ content can easily enter the basic ID information of their parents or older siblings ? or even simply just tick a box saying they?re over 18.
"The challenge is how to impose a robust check that will block minors without creating a cumbersome paper chasing exercise for every legitimate customer.

"There needs to be a process in place that can identify someone who looks like using false or stolen data very early on. Any ?red flags? can then be investigated further, allowing the majority of valid customers to pass straight through."

Although keeping kids safe online is important issues some have blasted the new meaures.

The Open Rights Group have openly disagreed with the porn plans stating: "While preventing children from seeing pornography is a worthy aim, age verification is fraught with difficulties if infringements of privacy and free expression are to be avoided.

"We will urge caution and advocate avoiding blunt instruments such as website blocking."

[NatalieK]

Originally Posted by baddog

Credit cards

I've also seen a system where the people have been accepted & checked on a database using alternative ID, not remembering the company, but it works well, or better than asking for credit card details

[Barry-xlovecam]

Just to clarify it costs us ,30 or ,40 eurocents to validate a credit card.

So, every new visitor will cost you that much wither they validate or not, or whitier they buy or not.

This could cost 200 a day for a rather small website -- 500 new visits a day.

[adultmobile]

So if I understand, UK removed Saddam without a plan how to replace him with better government, then UK exited EU without a plan how to implement that, and finally UK mandated the over 18 age validation to sites, without a plan how to implement that too?

[EddyTheDog]

Originally Posted by MaDalton

GFY: blablabla not gonna work blablabla

Germany: working age verification for 10+ years and no free porn on .de domains

I don't see how that is 'working'...

[The Porn Nerd]

Credit card + mobile phone access code. Nothing is 100% effective but that will solve 95% and I am cool with that ratio.

[Google Expert]

Originally Posted by EddyTheDog

I don't see how that is 'working'...

No shit.

Just don't host in Germany or the UK and they can't do anything apart from going Orwell on their citizens and restricting access on ISP level.

LOL.

[MaDalton]

Originally Posted by EddyTheDog

I don't see how that is 'working'...

the idiocracy is that the German government thinks there is no internet outside of Germany - but if their methods would be adapted worldwide: problem solved

age verification works, free porn could be eradicated, every serious operator is back to making money, not complying is a felony

but obviously it goes over the head of most people here

and credit card doesn't work - you can get one under 18 or steals your fathers

i have been in discussions like this over and over - just that it was like 10-12 years ago

[DVTimes]

Porn sites will need age verification from 2017, Government announces

The Open Right's Group, which campains for privacy and free speech online has said: "While preventing children from seeing pornography is a worthy aim, age verification is fraught with difficulties if infringements of privacy and free expression are to be avoided"

To enforce the measures, the Government suggested a new, separate watchdog be created. The body would be able to alert credit card companies, even if the websites themselves didn?t cooperate.

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I posted this as I find the responses more interesting:

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This bill smacks of a complete lack of understanding of how the internet and its relationship with the law works. How, for instance, do you govern these free adult material sharing sites? I would guess that 99% of them - if not 100% - are hosted and operated outside of the UK, and are not specifically directed at the UK market.

Anyone who wants to see how a similar law works in practice only needs to see Germany's ridiculous "Youth Protection Act" and the chaos that it wreaks on online services.

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Yes, I'm sure all of the sites based outside of the UK will rush to obey this pointless law.

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The thing is, I never see the public think its a good idea.

[ianmoone332000]

You just know this will lead to the government making money one way or another

[Mediamix]

Originally Posted by Muad'Dib

- "Just enter your credit card number right here, Sir. This is just for age verification. You won't be charged, promise."

2 days later...

- "WTF, i'm out of $160"

- "you've been 12clicked, sucker!"

Now that's funny