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Old 07-26-2016, 12:37 PM   #1
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TRUMP v CLINTON starting to get interesting!

This is going to be an epic race!

As of right now, before her convention bump (assuming she gets one) they are essentially tied.

She'll probably close strong but what a poor start - can she pull off the performance of a lifetime?

Trump will continue to get dumped on by the increasingly irrelevant echo chamber of the media. Clinton will continue to face absurd allegations from the nuthouse wing of the republicans.

Will Trump's hidden college whiteys beat Clinton's hidden feminist republicans? Spend all day kowtowing to unfireable minorities at work? Vote Trump! Tired of getting marital raped for 60 seconds a week by a smelly, stupid redneck? Vote Clinton!

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Old 07-26-2016, 02:17 PM   #2
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Trump goes to trial in November - twice. That will make the debates interesting.
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Old 07-26-2016, 02:27 PM   #3
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This race comes down to just a few things.

1. How big a % can Trump pull over from the blue dogs in the swing states with his trade and tariff message.

2. Can Clinton energize the African American vote to actually come out an vote. She will get the 90%+ of those that do vote. But can she get even close to the 2008-2012 numbers in this demo.

3. Can Clinton convince and energize the youth vote to come and vote for her. She failed at this in 2008, and she failed at this so far thru the primaries in 2016.

If she can close 2 and 3, then its over. If Trump underperforms his target for #1 its over.
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Old 07-26-2016, 04:25 PM   #4
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Hillary and the DNC is literally throwing it away. Trump doesn't stand a chance for being more popular, but rather people are tired of Hillary's shit and won't bother voting. Same thing happened in the mid terms.

The DNC fucking Sanders the way they did has left a lot of people not giving a fuck enough to vote for Hillary.

Hillary is a better option than Trump but Hillary is not worth getting out of bed to go vote for..
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Old 07-26-2016, 05:28 PM   #5
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Old 07-26-2016, 05:34 PM   #6
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I watched some of the first night of the DNC convention. It was so cool to see the endless applause for Sanders. It sucks that he is out, but he is really handling it like a gentleman and a good sport. Tonight I saw him make a second small speech to "suspend the rules" to speed things along for Hillary Clinton. What a cool guy he is.

And yeah, this race is now going to get really interesting. I can't wait to see the first debate. Hillary will do a great job answering questions, and of course Trump will fumble. Trump is a better speaker though. Yikes.
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Old 07-26-2016, 05:41 PM   #7
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I'm not American but follows this race closely.
The republicans ended up endorsing a guy 'no-one likes'. Wouldn't that be a piece of cake for democrats?
Well, no. The democrats are about to endorse a woman 'no-one likes'.

Where are the brains?

(And yes, I do raise my voice on this matters. USA have for a long time seen themselves as the police of the world. Trump seems to even raise this stand.
If a country is my overwatching police, and I can't vote, I will at least give myself the right to mean something and speak out about it. )

I don't want Hillary. I don't want Trump. Why can't you have a system where more candidates can run? (I know there are some 1% candidates around, those are not the ones I'm talking about)


Well, troll me. So when I wake up in the morning, hungover, you have all the opportunity in the wolrd to take me down.....

Lets all be friends, ok :-)

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Old 07-26-2016, 05:55 PM   #8
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Now that Russia is actively backing Trump the game changes. Not since watergate has an American political party been bugged, information gathered on, then info released at specific intervals to assist the opposing party.

Only this time it's a foreign country bugging servers, gathering intel, and trying to throw an election, on that merit alone Clinton should win and Trump be nullified, as he has DEEP financial ties to Russia, as well as owes millions in loans to Russia. This is why it should be mandatory that all his financial holdings, including taxes, should be released.

If Trump does win, I hope Democrats take it to the supreme court and get the win thrown out with 8 justices, Bush can do it, so can we
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Old 07-26-2016, 08:47 PM   #9
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Hillary and the DNC is literally throwing it away. Trump doesn't stand a chance for being more popular, but rather people are tired of Hillary's shit and won't bother voting. Same thing happened in the mid terms.

The DNC fucking Sanders the way they did has left a lot of people not giving a fuck enough to vote for Hillary.

Hillary is a better option than Trump but Hillary is not worth getting out of bed to go vote for..
Yeah, watch tonight. Bill Clinton has them eating out of his hand, as anyone who knows anything knew he would.
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Old 07-26-2016, 08:48 PM   #10
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This race comes down to just a few things.

1. How big a % can Trump pull over from the blue dogs in the swing states with his trade and tariff message.

2. Can Clinton energize the African American vote to actually come out an vote. She will get the 90%+ of those that do vote. But can she get even close to the 2008-2012 numbers in this demo.

3. Can Clinton convince and energize the youth vote to come and vote for her. She failed at this in 2008, and she failed at this so far thru the primaries in 2016.

If she can close 2 and 3, then its over. If Trump underperforms his target for #1 its over.
Pretty much, but youth, I say they're a little less important than you think. It is do whites stay home and blacks vote.
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Now that Russia is actively backing Trump the game changes. Not since watergate has an American political party been bugged, information gathered on, then info released at specific intervals to assist the opposing party.

Only this time it's a foreign country bugging servers, gathering intel, and trying to throw an election, on that merit alone Clinton should win and Trump be nullified, as he has DEEP financial ties to Russia, as well as owes millions in loans to Russia. This is why it should be mandatory that all his financial holdings, including taxes, should be released.

If Trump does win, I hope Democrats take it to the supreme court and get the win thrown out with 8 justices, Bush can do it, so can we
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I watched some of the first night of the DNC convention. It was so cool to see the endless applause for Sanders. It sucks that he is out, but he is really handling it like a gentleman and a good sport. Tonight I saw him make a second small speech to "suspend the rules" to speed things along for Hillary Clinton. What a cool guy he is.
shows again Sanders is too weak for the dirty snakepit.
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Old 07-27-2016, 04:12 AM   #13
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I am from India and can say that what's going around the world in recent time, US needs a strong and dynamic leader like Trump.

At least, the guy does not pretend to be fake.
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I am from India and can say that what's going around the world in recent time, US needs a strong and dynamic leader like Trump.

At least, the guy does not pretend to be fake.
A guy constantly changing opinions, often within a speech, is somewhat fake in my eyes.

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Now that Russia is actively backing Trump the game changes. Not since watergate has an American political party been bugged, information gathered on, then info released at specific intervals to assist the opposing party.
this is whats called being a shill for the liberal media. bladewire is like a blind drone. a billboard for liberal media nonsense.

the important thing to the liberal media, & to bladewire, is a liberal tactic called BLAME SHIFTING. somehow, the russians are the problem, not the DNC corruption, rigging the game against a candidate.

if the russians have the DNC emails...do they have hilarys server emails too? Duh. Libs are trying to demonize russia, to blame shift when hilarys server secrets are dumped, right before the election.

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this is the bottom line: the liberal media, & the DNC, will do everything possible to put a happy face on their felon. LOVE & UNITY & COMPASSION.

however, its the HEADLINES that will decide the election. Trump has gotten here not because of campaign ads. this is what happens:

late june, he says build a wall. a few weeks later, kate steinle is murdered by an illegal mexican, in a liberal sanctuary city.

then trump says ban muslims. suddenly muslims murder 14 people in san bernadino. & everywhere else in the world.

Trump says trade deals are unfair. then carrier airconditioning company announces a factory move from USA to mexico. trump doesnt need campaign ads when current events are free campaign ads for his candidacy.

& on hilarys side, headlines keep dumping bad news from her actions as a leader. Her DNC is corrupted, & the evidence of that hit the headlines. She got cleared by comey, but he dumped on her with his verdict. the headlines are forecast to continue dumping bad news from civil suits, since hilarys actions violated the freedom of information act, & is still under court deliberations.

if russia does have hilarys server, she has NO SHOT of winning the white house, none. those emails will be dumped, & she will lose.

& it will be her own fault, not the russians. The GOP gave her a trump to beat, & she failed, even at that. couldnt beat the liberal media tarred bigot, her own corruption overpowered the advantages of running democrat.

& the liberal media? they will call the voters racist. the last gasps of white racism got trump elected.

thats whats coming.
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I had my doubts but now I am convinced Trump will win, this article cleared the air for me:

5 Reasons Why Trump Will Win | MICHAEL MOORE
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Old 07-27-2016, 05:30 AM   #18
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Hillary and the DNC is literally throwing it away. Trump doesn't stand a chance for being more popular, but rather people are tired of Hillary's shit and won't bother voting. Same thing happened in the mid terms.

The DNC fucking Sanders the way they did has left a lot of people not giving a fuck enough to vote for Hillary.

Hillary is a better option than Trump but Hillary is not worth getting out of bed to go vote for..
crockett this the sharpest post you ever wrote. abandon the dogma of liberal hate & learn to love america.

it took your party 2 days to figure out they should put up american flags at their convention.
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Both were picked for you to vote on. And you did or didn't vote at all. There's the problem. The EU is failing so Anti-EU parties are springing up and the Right is going anti-EU and picking up voters.

The French and German Elections will see upsets.

Americans get the governments they deserve for not voting for people to break the system.
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And yeah, this race is now going to get really interesting. I can't wait to see the first debate. Hillary will do a great job answering questions, and of course Trump will fumble. Trump is a better speaker though. Yikes.
Hillary's camp didn't want to debate Bernie towards the end because he was being mean. Can you imagine what she will have to deal with debating Trump? If she couldn't handle Bernie she is going to get slapped around by Trump.
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