Is Zishy Zach a Photographic Genius? - GoFuckYourself.com

wehateporn · 08-09-2013, 05:14 PM

What are your thoughts, how does he compare with the other leaders in this industry? I have a feeling that he'll be snapped up by some big company

mikesouth · 08-09-2013, 05:37 PM

who?

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Rochard · 08-09-2013, 05:40 PM

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Originally Posted by mikesouth

who?

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What he said.

Who?

wehateporn · 08-09-2013, 05:43 PM

http://www.zishy.com/

SilentKnight · 08-09-2013, 05:47 PM

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Originally Posted by wehateporn

how does he compare with the other leaders in this industry?

So...what places him amongst the "leaders"?

Seems to be competent with a camera...however nothing outstanding or special.

JP-pornshooter · 08-09-2013, 05:51 PM

he did work for digital desire before..
he has been on my set a few times, zach is a good guy.

EddyTheDog · 08-09-2013, 05:55 PM

You are 'Zishy Zach' aren't you?....

wehateporn · 08-09-2013, 05:57 PM

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Originally Posted by SilentKnight

So...what places him amongst the "leaders"?

Seems to be competent with a camera...however nothing outstanding or special.

This is why I'm running a poll, I want to see what people think. I see an incredible amount of imagination going into his work, that's what I feel makes him stand out from the crowd

wehateporn · 08-09-2013, 05:58 PM

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Originally Posted by JP-pornshooter

he did work for digital desire before..
he has been on my set a few times, zach is a good guy.

Seems like a good chap on email

wehateporn · 08-09-2013, 05:59 PM

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Originally Posted by EddyTheDog

You are 'Zishy Zach' aren't you?....

Cameras aren't my thing I'm afraid, though sometimes I play a numbers game and take 117 random photos knowing that at least one will be a gem

wehateporn · 08-09-2013, 06:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Rochard

What he said.

Who?

Get Zishy on Rochard's Bunny Ranch, you're leaving sales on the table

mikesouth · 08-09-2013, 06:05 PM

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Originally Posted by wehateporn

http://www.zishy.com/

looks ok but i see nothing to put him in the Dean Cature/Ken Marcus/Steven Hicks/Holly Randall category

just run of the mill photography there

wehateporn · 08-09-2013, 06:07 PM

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Originally Posted by mikesouth

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His site is gradually appearing on the RADAR, but no skeletons in the closet (I don't think)

wehateporn · 08-09-2013, 06:09 PM

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Originally Posted by mikesouth

looks ok but i see nothing to put him in the Dean Cature/Ken Marcus/Steven Hicks/Holly Randall category

just run of the mill photography there

Thanks for your input Mike, it's interesting to see what different people think

wehateporn · 08-09-2013, 06:20 PM

Perhaps it's a niche-specific Genius, that's what I'm interested to see

mikesouth · 08-09-2013, 06:21 PM

ya i mean its decent photography but i wouldnt call it genius like I would ansel adams

wehateporn · 08-09-2013, 06:23 PM

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Originally Posted by mikesouth

ya i mean its decent photography but i wouldnt call it genius like I would ansel adams

Have you got a sample from ansel?

EddyTheDog · 08-09-2013, 06:28 PM

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Originally Posted by wehateporn

His site is gradually appearing on the RADAR, but no skeletons in the closet (I don't think)

Put your reading glasses on and look again...

wehateporn · 08-09-2013, 06:31 PM

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Originally Posted by EddyTheDog

Put your reading glasses on and look again...

His site is growing fast, that's clear, how big will it get? We shall see

MagicWand · 08-09-2013, 06:35 PM

JFK shoots the "Best"

EddyTheDog · 08-09-2013, 06:38 PM

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Originally Posted by wehateporn

His site is growing fast, that's clear, how big will it get? We shall see

What happened at the end of July?

It will be interesting to see if this bump in GFY traffic will create a peak...

wehateporn · 08-09-2013, 06:44 PM

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Originally Posted by EddyTheDog

What happened at the end of July?

It will be interesting to see if this bump in GFY traffic will create a peak...

The general trend from month-to-month is up

marcop · 08-09-2013, 07:05 PM

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Originally Posted by wehateporn

http://www.zishy.com/

I was talking to a retired porn chick yesterday who is now working as a madam/pimp, and she showed me a list of her girls and their rates. A number of the girls this genius has shot and put on his site are available for outcall or incall starting at the low, low price of $1,000.

wehateporn · 08-09-2013, 07:12 PM

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Originally Posted by marcop

I was talking to a retired porn chick yesterday who is now working as a madam/pimp, and she showed me a list of her girls and their rates. A number of the girls this genius has shot and put on his site are available for outcall or incall starting at the low, low price of $1,000.

Amazing what money can buy

His Infernal Majesty · 08-09-2013, 09:51 PM

I think he does great work! I have been a fan of his work since I stumbled upon that site a year or so ago after he shot Mia Malkova. I was running a site somewhat similar, coincidentally, and after I saw his site, I gave up! lol Everything about that site is exactly the way it needs to be, and it shows that he is passionate about what he's doing.

Spunky · 08-09-2013, 10:17 PM

I dig his photography ,very talented

Pseudonymous · 08-09-2013, 10:22 PM

Not sure if this thread is serious or youre trying to give a little bump in business to a friend of yours.

But this is a softcore site (basically non nude), this site would have been great 10 years ago.

And not in the same sense solo girl sites aren't the same as they were 10 years ago, the sales of solo girl sites has decreased but if you are really good at what you do, they make very good money

Non nude on the other hand, not only is it not what people want these days, there is no affiliates to push non nude content.

The only reason this site is up is because he had all this content shot because he enjoys working with women and being a photographer and it doens't cost alot because they aren't doing anything risque. So there isn't much reason not to launch it and make the few bucks on it. But this is site will be extremely small and even with the best photographer and best marketing, has an extremely low ceiling when it comes to potential earnings.

Even the mightiest in non nude are realizing this, the ones who have built their non nude member base at a time when it was easy and have a long hill to go down before they consider closing up. So for one to build one now makes no sense to me. I surely wouldn't continue shooting for it. Time is money and i rather spend my time and put my skills towards nude content that has the potential to obtain than a couple hundred members.

There is nobody in adult who is creating non nude content that isn't extremely raunchy (toys, very graphic shots, etc) and full of interaction, webcam shows, etc (solo girl sites) ... and IMO, those programs are even leaning more towards nude now

If its true and the Zishy guy is an ex photographer for digital desire and enjoys shooting models. There is alot of potential for him, very surprised hes shooting a very small time non nude tease site. Hopefully hes got fully nude projects coming in the future

And regarding his traffic sites, that isn't monthly fluctuation. Thats affiliates getting on board. Pushing some traffic with all the new promo galleries. Members checking it out and leaving. Every website gets that spike at the beginning (whether its a failed project or not), as long as YDG, BFTM and a couple others get on board, which they did.. That site will not stay within Alexa's radar after a couple more months. Feel free to quote me

As far as the photography goes. High end? Not at all.. but that might possibly be his style hes going for. Still good though. Its exactly the style Solo requires

Mutt · 08-09-2013, 10:44 PM

I like Zishy a lot, started promoting it a few weeks ago and it's made a lot of sales - unfortunately the price he's charging is unneccessarily low, affiliate's cut is 4 dollars, i've done a few 19 dollar sales. What he should do is set up another tour, as simple as just copying his tour to a sub-domain for affiliates and charging at least 19.95 a month. So while it's sold better than new sites will for me the overall revenue isn't much better than a new site that converts decently.

Pseudonymous · 08-09-2013, 10:45 PM

I hope everybody takes into account Mutt runs one of the only couple sites that has non nude traffic so it will convert half decently on his site. You would need about 25 other sites like his to be able to maintain a respectable member count.

And its no secret alot of people who visit these sites expect more nudity inside and are disappointed and dont return.

Alot of paysites continue to grow because they get returning customers. Non nude sites will never have the same return rate, atleast back in the day with non nude solo girl sites, they interacted and they always hoped she'd show a little more and a little more and actually , most of them did. But they aren't falling for anyone on that site, theres no model theyre obsessed with stringing them along

Pseudonymous · 08-09-2013, 10:57 PM

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Originally Posted by JP-pornshooter

he did work for digital desire before..
he has been on my set a few times, zach is a good guy.

You should be more specific, he was on the web side of digital desire apparently.

Makes sense now. I was wondering why he'd go backwards. Atleast hes starting somewhere, gives him a chance to learn, as soon as he figures out there isnt anything to make in non nude, he can use his experience with Zishy on the nude side.

PornDiscounts-V · 08-09-2013, 11:25 PM

I like that he shoots real girl next door photos.

Slutboat · 08-09-2013, 11:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Pseudonymous

as soon as he figures out there isnt anything to make in non nude, he can use his experience with Zishy on the nude side.

Your fantasy that you are an authority on this biz is pure delusion.

I predict he makes more money on this nn site than all of your solo sites combined.

Captain Kawaii · 08-09-2013, 11:52 PM

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Originally Posted by EddyTheDog

You are 'Zishy Zach' aren't you?....

Babee needs attention. Maybe ok stuff but nothing special. Maybe.

Pseudonymous · 08-09-2013, 11:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Slutboat

Your fantasy that you are an authority on this biz is pure delusion.

I predict he makes more money on this nn site than all of your solo sites combined.

His Infernal Majesty · 08-10-2013, 12:45 AM

The more I read this thread, the more I think Zishy Zach Venice is a genius!

No homo.
https://youtube.com/watch?v=8cwg9NceFco

jimmycastor · 08-10-2013, 02:40 AM

i agree hes a great photographer and he should raise his price to 29,95 month, that low price is the only thing that keeps me away from pushing it and im sure this stuff sells nice , compared to lots of crap content that is floating arround and constantly spammed in here...

but i guess hes clever, hes collecting a big growing paid memberbase and will bank out on another occasion.
and why not , talent should be rewarded...good luck to him

DVTimes · 08-10-2013, 02:52 AM

pics seem nice, but thats about it.

wehateporn · 08-10-2013, 03:46 AM

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Originally Posted by His Infernal Majesty

I think he does great work! I have been a fan of his work since I stumbled upon that site a year or so ago after he shot Mia Malkova. I was running a site somewhat similar, coincidentally, and after I saw his site, I gave up! lol Everything about that site is exactly the way it needs to be, and it shows that he is passionate about what he's doing.

For sure, it can't just be a job for Zach, like you say it's more likely to be a passion

wehateporn · 08-10-2013, 03:48 AM

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Originally Posted by jimmycastor

but i guess hes clever, hes collecting a big growing paid memberbase and will bank out on another occasion.
and why not , talent should be rewarded...good luck to him

Quite possible, at the rate his site is growing in two years from now he'll have a mighty fine database

wehateporn · 08-10-2013, 03:50 AM

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Originally Posted by His Infernal Majesty

The more I read this thread, the more I think Zishy Zach Venice is a genius!

No homo.
https://youtube.com/watch?v=8cwg9NceFco

Now I've seen a number of comments here, there are enough people agreeing to conclude that Zach is at the very least a gifted photographer.

wehateporn · 08-10-2013, 03:58 AM

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Originally Posted by Pseudonymous

Not sure if this thread is serious or youre trying to give a little bump in business to a friend of yours.

But this is a softcore site (basically non nude), this site would have been great 10 years ago.

And not in the same sense solo girl sites aren't the same as they were 10 years ago, the sales of solo girl sites has decreased but if you are really good at what you do, they make very good money

Non nude on the other hand, not only is it not what people want these days, there is no affiliates to push non nude content.

Like you say Pseudonymous, there are far easier niches to make money in, non nude is one of the hardest niches to crack. A non nude site has no nudity to sell, so they've really got to use their brains and find a way of being better than a clothing catalog. It takes imagination, brains and talent to crack this niche, most would fail, most do fail, sites which were non nude gave up and added nudity. However, Zach's site is growing very fast despite being non nude. Like you say 10 years ago it was possible to do this, but in 2013 surely only a genius or someone gifted can create a hugely popular non nude site

rogueteens · 08-10-2013, 06:43 AM

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Originally Posted by Mutt

I like Zishy a lot, started promoting it a few weeks ago and it's made a lot of sales - unfortunately the price he's charging is unneccessarily low, affiliate's cut is 4 dollars, i've done a few 19 dollar sales. What he should do is set up another tour, as simple as just copying his tour to a sub-domain for affiliates and charging at least 19.95 a month. So while it's sold better than new sites will for me the overall revenue isn't much better than a new site that converts decently.

I just tried to click on the webmaster link on the bottom of the page - took me ages, every time I tried to click, new pics loaded up and pushed the link down! :D

Dankasaur · 08-10-2013, 06:49 AM

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Originally Posted by rogueteens

I just tried to click on the webmaster link on the bottom of the page - took me ages, every time I tried to click, new pics loaded up and pushed the link down! :D

You have to go to a non-front page link.

Grapesoda · 08-10-2013, 06:56 AM

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Originally Posted by Pseudonymous

If its true and the Zishy guy is an ex photographer for digital desire and enjoys shooting models.

not a shooter, worked in the office... editing maybe... wasn't supposed to talk to the models, yet hit on the models to shoot for him

pornguy · 08-10-2013, 07:17 AM

Nothing special from what I see.

dyna mo · 08-10-2013, 08:00 AM

genius is a term that gets bandied about way too much these days, we need to keep the bar high re: genius status.

that said, zishy has moments of excellence. the outdoor stuff = wow.

wehateporn · 08-10-2013, 04:16 PM

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Originally Posted by rogueteens

I just tried to click on the webmaster link on the bottom of the page - took me ages, every time I tried to click, new pics loaded up and pushed the link down! :D

That's the IQ test to filter potential affiliates

Seth Manson · 08-10-2013, 04:29 PM

he should be a little more respectful

wehateporn · 08-10-2013, 04:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Seth Manson

he should be a little more respectful

The best artists a drawn towards pushing the limits

MediumPimpin · 08-10-2013, 06:03 PM

Started pushing the site a few months back, I really like his style.

View Poll Results: Is Zishy Zach a Photographic Genius?
Yes, he's a Photographic Genius	5	12.50%
He's certainly one of the best in the industry	11	27.50%
He's nothing special	24	60.00%
Voters: 40. You may not vote on this poll

08-09-2013, 05:14 PM	#1
wehateporn Promoting Debate on GFY Industry Role: Join Date: Apr 2007 Posts: 27,172	Is Zishy Zach a Photographic Genius? What are your thoughts, how does he compare with the other leaders in this industry? I have a feeling that he'll be snapped up by some big company __________________ Sexy Girls Teasing Last edited by wehateporn; 08-09-2013 at 05:16 PM..

08-09-2013, 05:37 PM	#2
mikesouth Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: My High Horse Posts: 6,346	who? 8 chars __________________ Mike South It's No wonder I took up drugs and alcohol, it's the only way I could dumb myself down enough to cope with the morons in this biz.

08-09-2013, 05:43 PM	#4
wehateporn Promoting Debate on GFY Industry Role: Join Date: Apr 2007 Posts: 27,172	http://www.zishy.com/ __________________ Sexy Girls Teasing

08-09-2013, 05:51 PM	#6
JP-pornshooter Confirmed User Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: westcoast usa Posts: 4,007	he did work for digital desire before.. he has been on my set a few times, zach is a good guy. __________________ "Obscenity is whatever gives the Judge an erection." -- Author Unknown

08-09-2013, 05:55 PM	#7
EddyTheDog Just Doing My Own Thing Industry Role: Join Date: Jan 2011 Location: London, Spain, New Zealand, GFY - Not Croydon... Posts: 24,800	You are 'Zishy Zach' aren't you?....

08-09-2013, 06:20 PM	#15
wehateporn Promoting Debate on GFY Industry Role: Join Date: Apr 2007 Posts: 27,172	Perhaps it's a niche-specific Genius, that's what I'm interested to see __________________ Sexy Girls Teasing

08-09-2013, 06:21 PM	#16
mikesouth Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: My High Horse Posts: 6,346	ya i mean its decent photography but i wouldnt call it genius like I would ansel adams __________________ Mike South It's No wonder I took up drugs and alcohol, it's the only way I could dumb myself down enough to cope with the morons in this biz.

08-09-2013, 06:35 PM	#20
MagicWand ╭∩╮︶︿︶╭∩╮ Industry Role: Join Date: Jul 2013 Posts: 253	JFK shoots the "Best"

08-09-2013, 09:51 PM	#25
His Infernal Majesty Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Philadelphia Posts: 468	I think he does great work! I have been a fan of his work since I stumbled upon that site a year or so ago after he shot Mia Malkova. I was running a site somewhat similar, coincidentally, and after I saw his site, I gave up! lol Everything about that site is exactly the way it needs to be, and it shows that he is passionate about what he's doing.

08-09-2013, 10:17 PM	#26
Spunky I need a beer Industry Role: Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: ♠ Toiletville ♠ Posts: 133,901	I dig his photography ,very talented __________________ *Skype : Spunky GFY*

08-09-2013, 10:22 PM	#27
Pseudonymous Photographer/Owner Industry Role: Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Vancouver, Canada Posts: 2,658	Not sure if this thread is serious or youre trying to give a little bump in business to a friend of yours. But this is a softcore site (basically non nude), this site would have been great 10 years ago. And not in the same sense solo girl sites aren't the same as they were 10 years ago, the sales of solo girl sites has decreased but if you are really good at what you do, they make very good money Non nude on the other hand, not only is it not what people want these days, there is no affiliates to push non nude content. The only reason this site is up is because he had all this content shot because he enjoys working with women and being a photographer and it doens't cost alot because they aren't doing anything risque. So there isn't much reason not to launch it and make the few bucks on it. But this is site will be extremely small and even with the best photographer and best marketing, has an extremely low ceiling when it comes to potential earnings. Even the mightiest in non nude are realizing this, the ones who have built their non nude member base at a time when it was easy and have a long hill to go down before they consider closing up. So for one to build one now makes no sense to me. I surely wouldn't continue shooting for it. Time is money and i rather spend my time and put my skills towards nude content that has the potential to obtain than a couple hundred members. There is nobody in adult who is creating non nude content that isn't extremely raunchy (toys, very graphic shots, etc) and full of interaction, webcam shows, etc (solo girl sites) ... and IMO, those programs are even leaning more towards nude now If its true and the Zishy guy is an ex photographer for digital desire and enjoys shooting models. There is alot of potential for him, very surprised hes shooting a very small time non nude tease site. Hopefully hes got fully nude projects coming in the future And regarding his traffic sites, that isn't monthly fluctuation. Thats affiliates getting on board. Pushing some traffic with all the new promo galleries. Members checking it out and leaving. Every website gets that spike at the beginning (whether its a failed project or not), as long as YDG, BFTM and a couple others get on board, which they did.. That site will not stay within Alexa's radar after a couple more months. Feel free to quote me As far as the photography goes. High end? Not at all.. but that might possibly be his style hes going for. Still good though. Its exactly the style Solo requires __________________ Previous owner of SoloRevenue Previous product manager @ Modelcentro.com/MCProfits.com, IsMyGirl.com, SMRevenue.com Last edited by Pseudonymous; 08-09-2013 at 10:33 PM..

08-09-2013, 10:44 PM	#28
Mutt Too lazy to set a custom title Industry Role: Join Date: Sep 2002 Posts: 34,431	I like Zishy a lot, started promoting it a few weeks ago and it's made a lot of sales - unfortunately the price he's charging is unneccessarily low, affiliate's cut is 4 dollars, i've done a few 19 dollar sales. What he should do is set up another tour, as simple as just copying his tour to a sub-domain for affiliates and charging at least 19.95 a month. So while it's sold better than new sites will for me the overall revenue isn't much better than a new site that converts decently. __________________ I moved my sites to Vacares Hosting. I've saved money, my hair is thicker, lost some weight too! Thanks Sly!

08-09-2013, 10:45 PM	#29
Pseudonymous Photographer/Owner Industry Role: Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Vancouver, Canada Posts: 2,658	I hope everybody takes into account Mutt runs one of the only couple sites that has non nude traffic so it will convert half decently on his site. You would need about 25 other sites like his to be able to maintain a respectable member count. And its no secret alot of people who visit these sites expect more nudity inside and are disappointed and dont return. Alot of paysites continue to grow because they get returning customers. Non nude sites will never have the same return rate, atleast back in the day with non nude solo girl sites, they interacted and they always hoped she'd show a little more and a little more and actually , most of them did. But they aren't falling for anyone on that site, theres no model theyre obsessed with stringing them along __________________ Previous owner of SoloRevenue Previous product manager @ Modelcentro.com/MCProfits.com, IsMyGirl.com, SMRevenue.com Last edited by Pseudonymous; 08-09-2013 at 10:52 PM..

08-09-2013, 11:25 PM	#31
PornDiscounts-V Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: L.A. Posts: 5,740	I like that he shoots real girl next door photos. __________________ Blog Posts - Contextual Links - Hardlinks on 600+ Blog Network * Handwritten * 180 C Class IPs * Permanent! * Many Niches! * Bulk Discounts! GFYPosts /at/ J2Media.net

08-10-2013, 12:45 AM	#35
His Infernal Majesty Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Philadelphia Posts: 468	The more I read this thread, the more I think Zishy Zach Venice is a genius! No homo. https://youtube.com/watch?v=8cwg9NceFco

08-10-2013, 02:40 AM	#36
jimmycastor So Fucking Banned Join Date: Jul 2006 Posts: 342	i agree hes a great photographer and he should raise his price to 29,95 month, that low price is the only thing that keeps me away from pushing it and im sure this stuff sells nice , compared to lots of crap content that is floating arround and constantly spammed in here... but i guess hes clever, hes collecting a big growing paid memberbase and will bank out on another occasion. and why not , talent should be rewarded...good luck to him Last edited by jimmycastor; 08-10-2013 at 02:41 AM..

08-10-2013, 02:52 AM	#37
DVTimes Holedex.com Industry Role: Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: UK Posts: 31,542	pics seem nice, but thats about it. __________________ My old and new pics I have shot

08-10-2013, 07:17 AM	#45
pornguy Too lazy to set a custom title Industry Role: Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Homeless Posts: 62,909	Nothing special from what I see. __________________ PornGuy skype me pornguy_epic AmateurDough The Hottes Shemales online! TChicks.com \| Angeles Cid \| Mariana Cordoba \| MAILERS WELCOME!

08-10-2013, 08:00 AM	#46
dyna mo The People's Post Industry Role: Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: invisible 7-11 Posts: 61,646	genius is a term that gets bandied about way too much these days, we need to keep the bar high re: genius status. that said, zishy has moments of excellence. the outdoor stuff = wow.

08-10-2013, 04:29 PM	#48
Seth Manson Please dont fuck animals Industry Role: Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: Henderson, NV Posts: 3,988	he should be a little more respectful

08-10-2013, 06:03 PM	#50
MediumPimpin Confirmed User Join Date: Apr 2003 Posts: 1,488	Started pushing the site a few months back, I really like his style. __________________ nats.mediumpimpin.com