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Old 11-23-2016, 03:16 PM   #1
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Jill Stein to File for Recounts in MI, WI & PA

Maybe this will push Clinton to do the same? I think the time limit to file is almost up anyone know?

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Jill Stein?s presidential campaign announced Wednesday that it plans to file for recounts in three key states if it can raise enough money.

?After a divisive and painful presidential race,? the Green Party candidate said in a statement, ?reported hacks into voter and party databases and individual email accounts are causing many Americans to wonder if our election results are reliable.?

Stein wants to request recounts in Wisconsin, Michigan and Pennsylvania ? states that were critical to President-elect Donald Trump's victory. The GOP candidate carried Wisconsin and Pennsylvania, and is likely to win Michigan, although the state has not yet been officially called.

A Stein spokeswoman said the campaign has not yet filed the official paperwork for the recounts. The campaign needs $2 million to pay for the filing fees and the actual recount process, and it has set up a fundraising website to collect the money.

The deadlines to file for a recount are Friday in Wisconsin, Monday in Pennsylvania and Wednesday in Michigan.


Citing "reported hacks" Jill Stein says she'll file for recounts in three states - POLITICO
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If Jill Stein files, then why would Hillary Clinton need to? The results that affects Stein affect all candidates equally.

I just think if this is going to be a thing, they should get it over with quickly so the president elect doesn't have it hanging over him. He has cabinet positions to fill with the worst backward-thinking dickheads he can find....better not to be distracted by election recounts.
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If Jill Stein files, then why would Hillary Clinton need to? The results that affects Stein affect all candidates equally.

I just think if this is going to be a thing, they should get it over with quickly so the president elect doesn't have it hanging over him.
The filing deadline to recount for each state is Friday, Monday & Wednesday so they better get to it quick!
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Clinton can't do it, without exposing DNC fraud
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She's raised over $400,000 so far of $2mill needed in just a few hours.

Pass on this donation URL https://jillstein.nationbuilder.com/recount
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She's raised over $400,000 so far of $2.5mill needed in just a few hours.

Pass on this donation URL https://jillstein.nationbuilder.com/recount
So in 12 minutes it's up to $483,000 already
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why would she want to spend $2M on a recount? what could a recount possibly change for her?

it sounds like it's really Hillary and democratic party throwing a hail marry pass, without exposing themselves as bunch of sore losers...
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why would she want to spend $2M on a recount? what could a recount possibly change for her?

it sounds like it's really Hillary and democratic party throwing a hail marry pass, without exposing themselves as bunch of sore losers...
The areas with electronic voting are 7% off those with paper ballots and 1% separates a win so it's only logical to do a recount.

Trump said that if he lost he'd refuse to accept the results, Clinton never made such a claim. Trump said the election was rigged, Clinton never made such a claim.

You being a Trump supporter should ideologically be supporting a recount based on your candidates stance, right?
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why would she want to spend $2M on a recount? what could a recount possibly change for her?

it sounds like it's really Hillary and democratic party throwing a hail marry pass, without exposing themselves as bunch of sore losers...
Fodder for the Nolts, feeble attempt to gain credibility after rampant voter fraud for Rotten Ham ...almost as bad as the Engineering of Kayne going to a mental ward after supporting Trump

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The areas with electronic voting are 7% off those with paper ballots and 1% separates a win so it's only logical to do a recount.

Trump said that if he lost he'd refuse to accept the results, Clinton never made such a claim. Trump said the election was rigged, Clinton never made such a claim.

You being a Trump supporter should ideologically be supporting a recount based on your candidates stance, right?
this is all playing out like some bad tv reality show... everyone considered the election results final, there wasn't even a suggestion that votes should be recounted... now magically 2 weeks later (day or 2 before the deadline) they discover some voting irregularity? and to look into it, Jill instead of Hillary is requesting a recount and is raising money for it? this is all becoming a bit nuts, almost like media/"establishment"/whoever is jerking people around on purpose...

but anyway, if democratic party wants to have a recount, then fair enough, but they should have the balls to push for it themselves, instead of playing these games pretending it's Jill behind it, when Jill has nothing at all to gain from it...
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this is all playing out like some bad tv reality show... everyone considered the election results final, there wasn't even a suggestion that votes should be recounted... now magically 2 weeks later (day or 2 before the deadline) they discover some voting irregularity? and to look into it, Jill instead of Hillary is requesting a recount and is raising money for it? this is all becoming a bit nuts, almost like media/"establishment"/whoever is jerking people around on purpose...

but anyway, if democratic party wants to have a recount, then fair enough, but they should have the balls to push for it themselves, instead of playing these games pretending it's Jill behind it, when Jill has nothing at all to gain from it...
This is Jill Steins stance on recounts, it's about integrity in voting:

The Stein/Baraka Green Party Campaign is launching an effort to ensure the integrity of our elections. With your help, we are raising money to demand recounts in Wisconsin, Michigan, and Pennsylvania-- three states where the data suggests a significant need to verify machine-counted vote totals.
This effort to ensure election integrity is in your hands! We need to raise over $2 million by this Friday, 4pm central. In true grassroots fashion, we?re turning to you, the people, and not big-money corporate donors to make this happen.
Your immediate support is crucial - Please donate now and share widely.
We hope to do recounts in all three states. If we only raise sufficient money for two, we will demand recounts in two states. If we only raise enough money for one, we will demand a recount in one state. If we do not raise enough for any recount (which is highly unlikely) we pledge to use the money for election integrity efforts and to promote systemic voting system reform.
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why would she want to spend $2M on a recount? what could a recount possibly change for her?
My question is how does this cost 2 million earth dollars?
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My question is how does this cost 2 million earth dollars?
WI & MI are $1 million each charged by the state in filing fees. PA charges $500k.
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If Jill Stein files, then why would Hillary Clinton need to? The results that affects Stein affect all candidates equally.

I just think if this is going to be a thing, they should get it over with quickly so the president elect doesn't have it hanging over him. He has cabinet positions to fill with the worst backward-thinking dickheads he can find....better not to be distracted by election recounts.
hummmm... maybe trump could get you a sweet spot on the cabinet???
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So in 12 minutes it's up to $483,000 already
About an hour since this post & credit card donation amount is over $879,298 so if donations continue @ let's say $300k an hour we should have the 2.5 million needed by the morning

https://jillstein.nationbuilder.com/recount


Jill Stein has said funds will go state by state so fist million and the file for WI next million will file for MI next $500k Will file for PA
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More lies from the libtards?

Election integrity experts have independently identified Michigan, Pennsylvania and Wisconsin as states where "statistical anomalies" raised concerns. Our effort to recount votes in those states is not intended to help Hillary Clinton.

...and who are these "Election integrity experts"
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More lies from the libtards?

Election integrity experts have independently identified Michigan, Pennsylvania and Wisconsin as states where "statistical anomalies" raised concerns. Our effort to recount votes in those states is not intended to help Hillary Clinton.

...and who are these "Election integrity experts"
The same experts who predicted her win.
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Election integrity experts have independently identified Michigan, Pennsylvania and Wisconsin as states where "statistical anomalies" raised concerns. Our effort to recount votes in those states is not intended to help Hillary Clinton.

...and who are these "Election integrity experts"
You sound a lot like Relic
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The same experts who predicted her win.
Incidentally also the same people who say the sky is falling on global warming/climate change.
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$1.1 million raised by Jill Stein certifies Wisconsin recount will be filed by attorneys in Wisconsin this Friday! *
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Something doesn't seem right with this. How is it possible that EVERYONE got this election wrong?
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Something doesn't seem right with this. How is it possible that EVERYONE got this election wrong?
T he Donald said it :


it is rigged !!!!!
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Impressive fund raising in a short period of time.
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Impressive fund raising in a short period of time.
It's Hillary supporters. She only raised $3.5 mil her entire presidential campaign.

It's useless as far as unseating Trump that's for sure. But maybe it will tame the libs. These "experts" aren't experts at all. All you have to do is look at the primary's to see a low Dem and high Repub turnout. Then toss in all of the secret Trump voters. Their statistics were flawed to begin with and if they are using those flawed statistics to come to their determination then they get the same results as last.. Wrong results.. The only state that may
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No thatis incorrect. She raised $171.6 Million.

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Jill Stein, not Hillary. And that's how much cash on hand Hillary has remaining..
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No thatis incorrect. She raised $171.6 Million.

Tracking the 2016 Presidential Money Race: Clinton v Trump
you looked at it wrong anyway..

Total Raised to Date . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . $1,068.1M
Total Spent . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . $897.7M
Total Cash on Hand . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . $171.6M

pissed away $1B+, all for nothing...
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looks like Hillary hired Paul too, no wonder he has been acting like a know-it-all big shot lately...

"Top Vendors for Clinton Campaign
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$3.3M. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Markham Productions
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$3.1M. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Bully Pulpit Interactive
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$2.2M. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . American Express
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Jill Stein, not Hillary. And that's how much cash on hand Hillary has remaining..
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Trump supporters should be all for this. If it comes out that it was rigged it will prove him right. If it comes out that everything is fine it will end some of the controversy around his win.
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Or they know Trump stold the election like Hillary's emails were stolen and they don't want him being outed
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it sounds like it's really Hillary and democratic party throwing a hail marry pass, without exposing themselves as bunch of sore losers...
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Why no recount in NH?
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Put in my donation earlier let's get this past $2.5 million just to play with the Trumplestilskins for a little while

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One of the red flags for recount that the scientists found. All the numbers next to arrows should be the same, but you can see almost 3,000 votes over total ballots cast. How does that happen with electronic voting?

You can't have almost 3,000 more votes than ballots cast.




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One of the red flags for recount that the scientists found. All the numbers next to arrows should be the same, but you can see almost 3,000 votes over total votes counted. How does that happen with electronic voting?




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There you have it. Supposed "scientist" is too stupid to realize not everyone casts a vote for all. Bush himself admitted to not casting a vote for President but cast votes for all down ballot.
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why would she want to spend $2M on a recount? what could a recount possibly change for her?

it sounds like it's really Hillary and democratic party throwing a hail marry pass, without exposing themselves as bunch of sore losers...
sounds plausable
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There you have it. Supposed "scientist" is too stupid to realize not everyone casts a vote for all. Bush himself admitted to not casting a vote for President but cast votes for all down ballot.
You can't have almost 3,000 more votes than ballots cast. Do you understand?

I.E. it's like 3,000 more people getting into a football game without a ticket.
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https://medium.com/@jhalderm/want-to...0ba#.mtewofpft


In a remarkable turn of events, the Green Party?s Jill Stein just raised over a $2 million dollars since 3pm today alone to recount the vote in the three crucial swing states of Michigan, Wisconsin, and Pennsylvania. Yesterday, reports indicated that a widely respected University of Michigan computer scientist raised issues about electronic voting machine tallies.

The Stein/Baraka Green Party Campaign is launching an effort to ensure the integrity of our elections. With your help, we are raising money to demand recounts in Wisconsin, Michigan, and Pennsylvania?three states where the data suggests a significant need to verify machine-counted vote totals.

University of Michigan Professor Alex Haldeman explained his reasoning late last night in a blog post, and the Green Party just agreed with him, leading to Americans all across the country contributing over $2 million dollars to the cause in just a half day.

Further reports of voting irregularity have surfaced. Independently, a University of Florida Professor in Gainesville ? who specializes in American elections ? found what appears to be a major tabulation error in a Wisconsin vote count.

As of this time, Donald Trump holds a projected 37 vote advantage in the Electoral College. Hillary Clinton?s national popular vote advantage stands above 2 million votes according to USA Today. Federal law mandates that all electors be chosen by December 13th, in advance of the Electoral College votes in the 50 state capitals who will directly select the President on December 19th.

In an election year filled with unimaginable twists and turns, it?s looking like America is going to wake up for Black Friday to news of a recount by Jill Stein?s Green Party in the three key swing states whose votes are decisive in this year?s electoral college vote
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Old 11-23-2016, 10:18 PM   #43
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why would she want to spend $2M on a recount? what could a recount possibly change for her?

it sounds like it's really Hillary and democratic party throwing a hail marry pass, without exposing themselves as bunch of sore losers...
Because a Republic candidate would of course never demand a recount after losing?

Republican Pat McCrory Requests Recount In North Carolina Governor's Race : NPR

In Trumps own words he claimed the system was rigged.. maybe he knew something..
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You can't have almost 3,000 more votes than ballots cast. Do you understand?

I.E. it's like 3,000 more people getting into a football game without a ticket.
That's not the total who voted. If you notice the next line it says "ballots cast blank .04%" meaning .04% were blank ballots. Where is the registered voter count and percentage? Why isn't there a percentage next to "ballots cast total" which BTW likely means complete ballot.
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Below is part of the scientists blog post that started the recount movement. The full blog post is here https://medium.com/@jhalderm/want-to...0ba#.mtewofpft



The only way to know whether a cyberattack changed the result is to closely examine the available physical evidence ? paper ballots and voting equipment in critical states like Wisconsin, Michigan, and Pennsylvania. Unfortunately, nobody is ever going to examine that evidence unless candidates in those states act now, in the next several days, to petition for recounts.

Want to Know if the Election was Hacked? Look at the Ballots

You may have read at NYMag that I?ve been in discussions with the Clinton campaign about whether it might wish to seek recounts in critical states. That article, which includes somebody else?s description of my views, incorrectly describes the reasons manually checking ballots is an essential security safeguard (and includes some incorrect numbers, to boot). Let me set the record straight about what I and other leading election security experts have actually been saying to the campaign and everyone else who?s willing to listen.

How might a foreign government hack America?s voting machines to change the outcome of a presidential election? Here?s one possible scenario. First, the attackers would probe election offices well in advance in order to find ways to break into their computers. Closer to the election, when it was clear from polling data which states would have close electoral margins, the attackers might spread malware into voting machines in some of these states, rigging the machines to shift a few percent of the vote to favor their desired candidate. This malware would likely be designed to remain inactive during pre-election tests, do its dirty business during the election, then erase itself when the polls close. A skilled attacker?s work might leave no visible signs ? though the country might be surprised when results in several close states were off from pre-election polls.

Could anyone be brazen enough to try such an attack? A few years ago, I might have said that sounds like science fiction, but 2016 has seen unprecedented cyberattacks aimed at interfering with the election. This summer, attackers broke into the email system of the Democratic National Committee and, separately, into the email account of John Podesta, Hillary Clinton?s campaign chairman, and leaked private messages. Attackers infiltrated the voter registration systems of two states, Illinois and Arizona, and stole voter data. And there?s evidence that hackers attempted to breach election offices in several other states.

In all these cases, Federal agencies publicly asserted that senior officials in the Russian government commissioned these attacks. Russia has sophisticated cyber-offensive capabilities, and has shown a willingness to use them to hack elections. In 2014, during the presidential election in Ukraine, attackers linked to Russia sabotaged the country?s vote-counting infrastructure and, according to published reports, Ukrainian officials succeeded only at the last minute in defusing vote-stealing malware that was primed to cause the wrong winner to be announced. Russia is not the only country with the ability to pull off such an attack on American systems ? most of the world?s military powers now have sophisticated cyberwarfare capabilities.
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That's not the total who voted. If you notice the next line it says "ballots cast blank .04%" meaning .04% were blank ballots. Where is the registered voter count and percentage? Why isn't there a percentage next to "ballots cast total" which BTW likely means complete ballot.
Wouldn't it then say Complete Ballots or Full Ballots?

To me when it says Ballots Total that means the total ballots cast, not just those that were 100% filled out.
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Wouldn't it then say Complete Ballots or Full Ballots?

To me when it says Ballots Total that means the total ballots cast, not just those that were 100% filled out.
Pretty sure everyone has to be a registered voter so where's that count and percentage? And again where is the "Ballots cast - Total" percentage. Either way this "evidence" has been doctored.
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Pretty sure everyone has to be a registered voter so where's that count and percentage? And again where is the "Ballots cast - Total" percentage. Either way this "evidence" has been doctored.
I guess we are going to find out. The fund is up to $2.25 million so they will reach the goal for a recount. Of course, that is, if the state approves it and allows it.
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I guess we are going to find out. The fund is up to $2.25 million so they will reach the goal for a recount. Of course, that is, if the state approves it and allows it.
And the evidence it was doctored is right on it. Look down on senator vote count "write in". They copied the 13 .04% from there. How can it be the same percentage with a higher vote count. I'm not going to waste my time but willing bet the percentages don't add up.


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