Nats still have a no-shave policy? - GoFuckYourself.com

faxxaff · 01-01-2017, 03:52 AM

I guess some might smile about my question, but let me ask this as the first dumb question of the year. I remember Nats used to state that part of their licensing deal would be to disallow shaving of affiliates, didn't they? Is that rule still valid and enforced?

Odysseus · 01-01-2017, 04:26 AM

In any case this rule could never work 100%
What exactly happened?

babeterminal · 01-01-2017, 04:51 AM

would be nice if true

klinton · 01-01-2017, 05:16 AM

why ?????????

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Originally Posted by Odysseus

In any case this rule could never work 100%

redwhiteandblue · 01-01-2017, 05:53 AM

I'm sure sponsors would never consider doing such a thing in this day and age......

bns666 · 01-01-2017, 06:21 AM

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Originally Posted by redwhiteandblue

I'm sure sponsors would never consider doing such a thing in this day and age......

Paul&John · 01-01-2017, 07:00 AM

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Originally Posted by redwhiteandblue

I'm sure sponsors would never consider doing such a thing in this day and age......

Barry-xlovecam · 01-01-2017, 07:15 AM

Shaving thread #10,000,000

If you don't want to ever think you ''get shaved'' sell real estate or some other business you need a license for and is regulated. Bringing a signed order with a check attached to the office is good too.

faxxaff · 01-01-2017, 07:54 AM

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Originally Posted by Barry-xlovecam

Shaving thread #10,000,000

If you don't want to ever think you ''get shaved'' sell real estate or some other business you need a license for and is regulated. Bringing a signed order with a check attached to the office is good too.

Some programs trim and shave like chicks do with their vagina. I guess we all can live with that as long as it's not that ugly. But some put dynamite into a vagina and blow it up. Nobody deserves such a bloody mess.

Barry-xlovecam · 01-01-2017, 09:05 AM

Make some test buys with your friends' credit cards and see if you get paid. Buy prepaid cards for your friends (ideally in different card companies and different locations) and load them with sufficient funds.

Spend the $160 -$200 yourself to find out and prove they are shaving -- have the friend test your links like a customer would use -- make sure all is good browser wise, etc, don't use tor or VPNs use real IPs -- don't tell the sponsors anything -- see if you get paid --- then out or bless them them here. At least you will know which of your sponsors is honest.

Libeling the unknown evil is a GFY tradition

faxxaff · 01-01-2017, 09:23 AM

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Originally Posted by Barry-xlovecam

Make some test buys with your friends' credit cards and see if you get paid. Buy prepaid cards for your friends (ideally in different card companies and different locations) and load them with sufficient funds.

Spend the $160 -$200 yourself to find out and prove they are shaving -- have the friend test your links like a customer would use -- make sure all is good browser wise, etc, don't use tor or VPNs use real IPs -- don't tell the sponsors anything -- see if you get paid --- then out or bless them them here. At least you will know which of your sponsors is honest.

Libeling the unknown evil is a GFY tradition

Unfortunately, that's just a way to test new signups. How would you test for rebills? Let's say 500 rebills a month disappear from the system and go to zero next month? Would love to hear your suggestion. I doubt it can be a coincidence ....

PornDiscounts-V · 01-01-2017, 02:55 PM

Or a whale drops, but didn't.

Barry-xlovecam · 01-01-2017, 03:16 PM

The churn rate?

Find another sponsor if the customers don't stick around.

If your customers don't rebill a much there is some problem -- a problem you will never solve unless you have ''first count'' (sell the actual content).

Cam sales do not rebill so you could make repeat purchases and see if they are credited if necessary.

Konda · 01-01-2017, 08:20 PM

Nats it's just the tracking software. There is no built in shave function (like there was in another affiliate tracking system), but programs that want to shave can easily use tricks to shave if they wanted to, regardless of the tracking software.
Just use programs you trust with your traffic, the tracking platform should not matter.

faxxaff · 01-02-2017, 02:44 AM

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Originally Posted by Konda

Nats it's just the tracking software. There is no built in shave function (like there was in another affiliate tracking system), but programs that want to shave can easily use tricks to shave if they wanted to, regardless of the tracking software.
Just use programs you trust with your traffic, the tracking platform should not matter.

Unfortunately, competition isn't great in that niche. That leaves me without an opportunity to monetize 5k hits per day.

Barry-xlovecam · 01-02-2017, 06:39 AM

Either that ^^^ or if you have a large sample over a pool of sponsors
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Deviat...te_deviat ion

Try statistical deviation.
However, you would need a large pool of overall data for an industry -- that is known true data.

If you ask every sponsor what their rebill rate is they would just fabricate a number -- unreliable data.

Last rebill rate I recall quoted by a neutral source was years ago and it was 1.7 -- he was making the case for PPS -- so it may have been biased.

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faxxaff Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Marina Hemingway Posts: 2,131	Nats still have a no-shave policy? I guess some might smile about my question, but let me ask this as the first dumb question of the year. I remember Nats used to state that part of their licensing deal would be to disallow shaving of affiliates, didn't they? Is that rule still valid and enforced? __________________ Asian Babes

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Odysseus Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: www.gfy.com Posts: 745	In any case this rule could never work 100% What exactly happened?

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Barry-xlovecam It's 42 Industry Role: Join Date: Jun 2010 Location: Global Posts: 18,083	Make some test buys with your friends' credit cards and see if you get paid. Buy prepaid cards for your friends (ideally in different card companies and different locations) and load them with sufficient funds. Spend the $160 -$200 yourself to find out and prove they are shaving -- have the friend test your links like a customer would use -- make sure all is good browser wise, etc, don't use tor or VPNs use real IPs -- don't tell the sponsors anything -- see if you get paid --- then out or bless them them here. At least you will know which of your sponsors is honest. Libeling the unknown evil is a GFY tradition

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Barry-xlovecam It's 42 Industry Role: Join Date: Jun 2010 Location: Global Posts: 18,083	The churn rate? Find another sponsor if the customers don't stick around. If your customers don't rebill a much there is some problem -- a problem you will never solve unless you have ''first count'' (sell the actual content). Cam sales do not rebill so you could make repeat purchases and see if they are credited if necessary.

01-01-2017, 08:20 PM	#14
Konda ... Industry Role: Join Date: Apr 2003 Posts: 2,280	Nats it's just the tracking software. There is no built in shave function (like there was in another affiliate tracking system), but programs that want to shave can easily use tricks to shave if they wanted to, regardless of the tracking software. Just use programs you trust with your traffic, the tracking platform should not matter.

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Barry-xlovecam It's 42 Industry Role: Join Date: Jun 2010 Location: Global Posts: 18,083	Either that ^^^ or if you have a large sample over a pool of sponsors https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Deviat...te_deviat ion Try statistical deviation. However, you would need a large pool of overall data for an industry -- that is known true data. If you ask every sponsor what their rebill rate is they would just fabricate a number -- unreliable data. Last rebill rate I recall quoted by a neutral source was years ago and it was 1.7 -- he was making the case for PPS -- so it may have been biased.