So are we all fucked by AI ?

[todservices]

I have been working and learning everything I can about AI within the past 2 months.
And I personaly think we are all fucked and we'll need to have universal income because AI is going to be chainsaw massacre in the IT/web world.

Am I too pessimistic ?
What do you guys think ?

[k0nr4d]

Originally Posted by todservices

I have been working and learning everything I can about AI within the past 2 months.
And I personaly think we are all fucked and we'll need to have universal income because AI is going to be chainsaw massacre in the IT/web world.

Am I too pessimistic ?
What do you guys think ?

It depends on the job really. Copywriters and graphic designers will be hurt.

Programmers like me will be the last to be replaced. Not because we're the most important job, or because what we do can only be done by a human, but because the moment computers can program themselves from A to Z the human race is fucked.

[King Mark]

Adapt or die still applies. It always will. It's the middleman's turn for some adapting.

[TheLegacy]

If my friend you're talking about Google using AI for mobile searches I answered this elsewhere

https://www.msn.com/en-in/money/technology/ar-AA1rETQ7


I read this last night a few times and wanted to respond but held off until I read more.

The phrase in the article says, "SEOs and publishers have been scrambling to make sense of Google's AI Overviews, and these further changes will raise more questions about how websites get visibility in the generative AI era." They weren't kidding

ok how do I see things differently for SEO with this new Gemini AI approach.

First thing is keywords - well similar to snippets used the new search parameters will not be as much keywords but a conversation focusing on users "question" rather than a specific keyword. So now SEO will need to switch from keywords to "intent" and/or how people will start asking questions that will assist google to find your client. Meta titles and descriptions may need to cater more to conversational language and directly address common questions or search intents, as AI surfaces content more directly answering users' queries.

Secondly SEO people will now need to realize that the focus may shift even more toward content that answers questions in a comprehensive, user-friendly manner. AI will likely prioritize engagement metrics (time on page, interaction rates) more than keyword density, so creating content that genuinely engages and satisfies user queries will be crucial.

Third when it comes to content - Gemini AI, being multimodal, can analyze images, videos, and text together. This means visual elements (like infographics or images) on your pages may play a larger role in SEO rankings. This means my friends that AI-driven SERPs might prioritize pages that provide answers through a mix of formats.

You've heard it said before and commonly quoted E-A-T (Expertise, Authoritativeness, Trustworthiness) These new changes suggest that authority and expertise: AI models like Gemini can better analyze the credibility of the content and its sources. This means that demonstrating expertise, such as through authoritative backlinks or author credentials, will become even more critical. In short - tools might need to provide metrics around E-A-T signals, not just keyword rankings. SEOs might focus more on brand reputation, author bios, and trust factors like reviews or citations. Also tools focused on structured data optimization and validation (like Schema.org) will be more important, as AI may lean on structured information to create better experiences in SERPs.

Fourth is voice search dominance. With mobile phones driving more voice searches, optimizing for voice queries will be critical. Natural language processing (NLP) advancements will favor conversational, question-and-answer-type content. SEO professionals will need to focus on crafting meta titles and descriptions that are conversational and match how users speak, especially for voice search optimization.

So a quick overview

- Conversational meta descriptions and titles will be essential for mobile.
- High-quality, user-centered content will trump traditional keyword-heavy tactics.
- Multimodal content (images, videos, text) will become central to ranking, especially on mobile devices.
- Structured data and E-A-T will carry more weight as AI analyzes content credibility and authority.
- Voice search optimization will continue to rise, requiring more natural, long-tail query optimization.


Overall, SEO will become more holistic and user-focused, with AI pushing for better, richer, and more meaningful content over technical keyword manipulations. As Google’s Gemini AI enhances mobile search, staying agile in how you optimize content will be key to maintaining visibility.

The problem is as this starts with mobile those SEO professionals and companies who use 3rd party software like SEMRush etc. simply won't be up to speed as the changes are occurring. Everyone knows I dislike using these SEO tools for their limitations - and now with AI - those tools will be more useless.

That's all I got right now on this topic until Google actually starts helping out and giving us more information that could be useful. Kind of like buying your kid a sports car then telling them the driving lessons will likely be next year.

PART 2

Here are some specific Google AI tools that can assist in SEO tasks, particularly in creating titles and descriptions:

1. Google Search Console:

Keyword Research: Use Google Search Console to identify relevant keywords and phrases that are driving traffic to your website.
Performance Insights: Analyze search performance data to understand which titles and descriptions are most effective


2. Google Keyword Planner:

Keyword Suggestions: Generate keyword ideas based on your target keywords.
Competition Analysis: Assess keyword difficulty and estimate search volume.


3. BERT (Bidirectional Encoder Representations from Transformers):

Improved Understanding: BERT helps Google better understand the context and meaning of search queries, leading to more relevant search results.
Optimized Content: Create content that aligns with BERT's understanding of search intent.


4. Google AI Search Experiments:

Testing New Features: Participate in Google's AI search experiments to gain early access to new features and tools.
Provide Feedback: Contribute to the development of AI-powered search by providing feedback on experimental features.


5. AI-Powered SEO Tools:

Jasper.ai: Generate high-quality content, including titles and descriptions, based on prompts and keywords.
Copy.ai: Create engaging and persuasive copy for various marketing materials, including meta descriptions.
Fractional.ai: Optimize website content for search engines and improve user experience.


When using these tools, remember to:

Combine AI with human expertise: While AI can provide valuable insights, human judgment is essential for ensuring the quality and relevance of your content.


Focus on user intent: Create titles and descriptions that accurately reflect the content of your page and address the user's needs.
Test and iterate: Experiment with different variations of titles and descriptions to see what works best for your audience.


By leveraging these AI tools and following best practices, you can improve your SEO efforts and increase your website's visibility in search engine results.

[Publisher Bucks]

Depends on how you’re embracing AI, I can honestly say as a company we’ve increased profits by roughly 60% in the past 2 years and our digital product line has increased tenfold in the same period of time.

[todservices]

Originally Posted by Publisher Bucks

Depends on how you’re embracing AI, I can honestly say as a company we’ve increased profits by roughly 60% in the past 2 years and our digital product line has increased tenfold in the same period of time.

yeah thank you, I have no doubt companies will increase their profits with AI and by letting people go lol

I think this is PRETTY FUCKING CLEAR for everyone

I am asking for employees/consultants/people working for these companies
Are we going to be all wiped out ?

[King Mark]

Originally Posted by todservices

Are we going to be all wiped out ?

https://www.perplexity.ai/search/i-h...OcPHraEI8FPQ#0

[Publisher Bucks]

Originally Posted by todservices

yeah thank you, I have no doubt companies will increase their profits with AI and by letting people go lol

I think this is PRETTY FUCKING CLEAR for everyone

I am asking for employees/consultants/people working for these companies
Are we going to be all wiped out ?

We're a 2 person, small business, like probably 90+ percent of people in the industry, neither of us are being 'let go' because of AI

Again, you can run around like chicken little proclaiming that the 'sky is falling' or, adapt to the fact that AI is here to stay and, grow your business by learning how to utilize it in order to streamline processes, create saleable / marketable content or to enhance customer experience.

Those who are adapting to AI are making bank, either in terms of time savings, monetary value or, business growth and expansion and will be here for the log-term.

*edit*

The problem with a LOT of individuals in the online industry(s) is that they don't run their businesses like a business, but more like a hobby, these are the only ones who will become obsolete.

[fuzebox]

[todservices]

That tweet grew old pretty fast tbh.
It was a great tweet for the show I give you that.
I tried an AI to build app the other day, I'm super bad at describing precisely and the thing understood it extremely well... Even with my broken english.

So yeah the tweet was fun and all, but it seems to me much more of wishful thinking than anything else.

[todservices]

Originally Posted by King Mark

https://www.perplexity.ai/search/i-h...OcPHraEI8FPQ#0

Yes i'm using a lot perplexity, much more than chatgpt actually

Actually it said it all in the first sentence :
While it is true that companies may increase their profits by leveraging AI and potentially reducing their workforce

So of course, right after, it nuances because this is how it was trained to do.

Thesis, Antithesis, Synthesis
we were taught that at 13-14 yo.

[King Mark]

Some people just have to be victims 🤣

I've been learning that a lot here lately.

[notime]

I'll be back.

[RyuLion]

Yeap Adapt or die. I've been studing Machine learning (ML).
Checkout youtube's lessons..

[CaptainHowdy]

You had me at . . .

Originally Posted by todservices

universal income

[todservices]

Originally Posted by Publisher Bucks

We're a 2 person, small business, like probably 90+ percent of people in the industry, neither of us are being 'let go' because of AI

Yeah well as a 2 people company - and probably 2 co founders - you have no one to let go
You are not big enough

Originally Posted by Publisher Bucks

Again, you can run around like chicken little proclaiming that the 'sky is falling'

I'm not doing that at all, you are mistaken
Just asking questions and trying to get people's opinion

[mikeet]

Originally Posted by fuzebox

[Publisher Bucks]

Originally Posted by todservices

Yeah well as a 2 people company - and probably 2 co founders - you have no one to let go
You are not big enough

I'm not doing that at all, you are mistaken
Just asking questions and trying to get people's opinion

You're right.

Have a great weekend

[Ironhorse]

Originally Posted by todservices

Yeah well as a 2 people company - and probably 2 co founders - you have no one to let go
You are not big enough

I'm not doing that at all, you are mistaken
Just asking questions and trying to get people's opinion

The short version yes we're going to be fucked for a while. Our social safety systems don't scale well and will be overwhelmed by the exponential nature of AI growth. Most people just hunker down in their shelter and ignore the world around them, some even deny the butterfly effect that they don't understand.

Even industrialists like Musk acknowledged that without some systems like universal income the ripple effect of eliminating more of the middle class and the growing divide between the masses of poor and the few ultra wealthy will lead to constant military clashes and political instability. This is just the inevitable scenario that history documents well.

Ultimately it's a question of time. Will we adjust our ways in time to avert disaster and embrace this technology in ways that benefits our species, or will primal greed keep pushing us forward towards the abyss..

[sarettah]

[offjack]

You lack get up and go!

I use AI to make beer money off of people who think just posting feet and nipples: https://hyperb.myportfolio.com/nsfw-ai

I need to update this soon

[Huggles]

Originally Posted by King Mark

Some people just have to be victims 🤣

I've been learning that a lot here lately.

New technology... destroying and improving lives at the same time since the dawn of humanity!

Ice delivery used to be such a huge industry before the refrigerator...

[Ironhorse]

Originally Posted by Huggles

New technology... destroying and improving lives at the same time since the dawn of humanity!

Ice delivery used to be such a huge industry before the refrigerator...

This is much different. Exponential barely begins to describe the fundamental changes even generative AI will bring to our society, let alone the more sentient variety if we ever get there.

[just a punk]

Originally Posted by k0nr4d

Programmers like me will be the last to be replaced.

I thought so too, but no. The programmers will soon be out of a job too. It will happen in just a few years.

In addition, entire industries are now under threat. For example, SEO - which will soon lose all meaning, because it is always easier to ask ChatGPT or Perplexity than to search for something in Google, visiting a bunch of sites from SERP's in search of the necessary information.

Or blogs, for example. What is the point of doing this now, when automatic scripts (yes, for example CyberSEO Pro or AI Autoblogger) have long ago completely automated this process, and believe me - the quality of content generated by modern AI models such as GPT-4o or Claude 3.5 is superior to that of humans. On top of that, these models have knowledge bases that include everything that has ever been published on the Internet.

And this applies not only to the mainstream. In adult, all this works in exactly the same way.

[Ironhorse]

Originally Posted by just a punk

And this applies not only to the mainstream. In adult, all this works in exactly the same way.

Which basically means it's just a matter of time before all content will be AI generated, or it will be possible to do so.

Good bye OnlyFans, good bye porn stars, good bye photographers, etc etc.

[just a punk]

Originally Posted by Ironhorse

Good bye OnlyFans, good bye porn stars, good bye photographers, etc etc.

In fact, AI services for image and video generation are getting better every day...

[Look Chang]

Originally Posted by Huggles

New technology... destroying and improving lives at the same time since the dawn of humanity!

Ice delivery used to be such a huge industry before the refrigerator...

Yes and there was so many horses before the coming of cars.

So many photo and video cameras before the coming of smartphones.

So many newspapers before the coming of Internet.

Etc. Etc. And it's not finished. . .

Anyway, AI will never replace physical sex for a majority of people, including me, and for the survival of civilization. . .

[Ironhorse]

Originally Posted by Look Chang

Anyway, AI will never replace physical sex for a majority of people, including me, and for the survival of civilization. . .

Not AI. AI and robotics =) Maybe not for you but a vast majority will be just fine with a super kinky girlfriend they can turn off during the football game.

So Huggles there's your innovation. The robot is coming.. but after a while why bother with material resources when you can just plug a chip and simulate the whole experience.

[King Mark]

This is the part where I accept I'm getting old. I will always choose a real life old school wet warm vagina over anything.

[J. Falcon]

Originally Posted by just a punk

and believe me - the quality of content generated by modern AI models such as GPT-4o or Claude 3.5 is superior to that of humans.

Not from what I've seen.

[Publisher Bucks]

Originally Posted by J. Falcon

Not from what I've seen.

Its all about the prompts individuals using AI utilize honestly, you're right, some is complete and utter shit but, mainly those generated by posters that you'll find on GFY just looking to make a quick buck while pretending to stay relevant.

But, those who actually refine the prompts, the specifics needed and adjust them for each piece of generated content, the results are actually pretty amazing.

Its the same with anything, there are shit websites, that are just thrown together haphazardly and there are amazing websites that offer exceptional user experience packed with fantastic content... its all about the user, not the tool, although admittedly, some of the users can also be classified as tools.

With the right prompts, I'd go as far as to say that AI could outwrite your work in a fraction of the time, at a fraction of the cost...

It isn't just a case of saying 'write me an article about pegging' it has to be a lot more specific than that, AI needs to know what tone the article needs, how many words to use, the audience, the actual 'feel' of what is being written. Once it has that, it'll spit out a piece of work in less than a minute that is honestly better than most humans could write.

[todservices]

Originally Posted by just a punk

I thought so too, but no. The programmers will soon be out of a job too. It will happen in just a few years.

In addition, entire industries are now under threat. For example, SEO - which will soon lose all meaning, because it is always easier to ask ChatGPT or Perplexity than to search for something in Google, visiting a bunch of sites from SERP's in search of the necessary information.

agree 100%.
Most informational websites will become irrelevant.
Websites with communities and content will remain relevant : onlyfans, video content, no problem for these

Perplexity is seriously awesome tbh, I get 90% of my info from there.

[Ironhorse]

Originally Posted by todservices

Websites with communities and content will remain relevant : onlyfans, video content, no problem for these

They may remain relevant but they will be easily and fully automated within the next 5 years based on current trajectory, effectively eliminating human contribution .ie. jobs. Is that not what this topic is about?

[King Mark]

I spoke about this in detail in an older AI thread, but in a nutshell: once everything is flooded with the artificial, the premium demand for actual real will be astounding. The burden of proof as real will take more effort, but the 💰 will make it worth it.

Of course, this has little to do with middlemen. Yes, AI is making majority of middlemen unnecessary pains in the asses and expenses, and they will be losing jobs. AI is a superior assistant for independent people and businesses than middlemen are already and it just started. Ain't no way around that. Welcome to capitalism. The smart middlemen are adapting now and not chicken littleing tho.

[Ironhorse]

Originally Posted by King Mark

I spoke about this in detail in an older AI thread, but in a nutshell: once everything is flooded with the artificial, the premium demand for actual real will be astounding. The burden of proof as real will take more effort, but the 💰 will make it worth it.

Of course, this has little to do with middlemen. Yes, AI is making majority of middlemen unnecessary pains in the asses and expenses, and they will be losing jobs. AI is a superior assistant for independent people than middlemen are already and it just started. Ain't no way around that. Welcome to capitalism. The smart middlemen are adapting now and not chicken littleing tho.

I'm banking on that myself with my art, back to school studying portrait illustration and anatomy especially since AI seems to have problems with fingers =) But when you run the numbers the flood of easily generated AI "art" vastly outnumbers demand. I guess I could sell my soul and join the "revolution" and perhaps speed up the process it takes to create my graphic novel. But until then it's going to hurt the masses stuck in the middle, especially the art community that perhaps clings to a semblance of authenticity.

[just a punk]

Originally Posted by J. Falcon

Not from what I've seen.

So you haven't seen anything. 99% of people use text AI models incorrectly and get dry, colorless, emotionless texts as if it were some kind of academic paper or copy-paste from Wikipedia. If you write the right prompt, the generated content will be no worse than what professional writers write, let alone copywriters from India. Here is an example of a funny mockery site where the content is generated by the simplest GPT-4o mini model without any manual editing, on autopilot: https://www.talesfromrobots.com/

Once set up, this site lives its own life and no one interferes with its operation - fire and forget. The cost of each such story is less than 1 cent, i.e. practically free. Do not look for unexpected and epic plots, because such a task was not set. Just evaluate the author's style. Is it soulless and clumsy? Can you personally write fiction of this quality? Can your copywriter write like this? How much do they charge for an article?

With the same quality, it generates for me descriptions of marketplace products, training courses for this and that, popular science sites on various topics, and so on...

Originally Posted by Publisher Bucks and quoted for truth

Its all about the prompts individuals using AI utilize honestly, you're right, some is complete and utter shit but, mainly those generated by posters that you'll find on GFY just looking to make a quick buck while pretending to stay relevant.

But, those who actually refine the prompts, the specifics needed and adjust them for each piece of generated content, the results are actually pretty amazing.

Its the same with anything, there are shit websites, that are just thrown together haphazardly and there are amazing websites that offer exceptional user experience packed with fantastic content... its all about the user, not the tool, although admittedly, some of the users can also be classified as tools.

With the right prompts, I'd go as far as to say that AI could outwrite your work in a fraction of the time, at a fraction of the cost...

It isn't just a case of saying 'write me an article about pegging' it has to be a lot more specific than that, AI needs to know what tone the article needs, how many words to use, the audience, the actual 'feel' of what is being written. Once it has that, it'll spit out a piece of work in less than a minute that is honestly better than most humans could write.

Here is what ZeroGPT thinks about the texts generated by GPT-4o mini (openai/gpt-4o-mini) when prompted correctly (source):