Do you use mailchimp?

[MakeMeGrrrrowl]

I was going to try them out since they integrate with my CRM and that would be really cool, but it clearly says they do not allow pornography/sexually explicit content.

I don't plan to send nude photos and I don't plan to be super dirty in the emails (but I gotta get a lil dirty going), but it's still linking to an adult site (with no full nude photos).

Anyone gotten around this? Used mailchimp successfully while promoting adult services?

I am currently with ynot, and they're good, but integrating with my CRM as well as their stats and unlimited emails makes them very attractive.

[TheDynasty]

have you tried that black sad horse or whatever they skinned gfy few months back not saying if they are good or bad just knew that they did mailing

[dillfly2000]

What about GetResponse?

[The Porn Nerd]

I know of someone who uses Mailchimp and loves it but they are promoting 'erotic literature'. I tried using them but got banned - and refunded the same day! So now I also use YNOT.

Give it a shot. The worst they can do is ban you and refund you and then you will know for sure. Good luck!

[j3rkules]

They do not allow adult from what I have heard.

[k0nr4d]

We usually recommend sendgrid.com to people but I don't know their stance on adult - we use it for transactional emails only.

[Konda]

Originally Posted by k0nr4d

We usually recommend sendgrid.com to people but I don't know their stance on adult - we use it for transactional emails only.

Transactional emails and emails to affiliates are fine (even if they contain porn related keywords/graphics) but they don't allow adult related promotional mailing to customers

[Markul]

I've been through most of them, eventually you'll end up with your own solution if you mail a lot - even when you mail a little, nothing will beat this:

1. Install Sendy.
2. Clean your lists (.datavalidation.com works for me)
3. Register with AWS (aws.amazon.com/ses/)
4. Raise your limit with AWS
5. Send mails until you are blue in the face at a fraction of the cost of everyone else with a WAY higher delivery rate.

Thank me later.

[Konda]

Originally Posted by Markul

I've been through most of them, eventually you'll end up with your own solution if you mail a lot - even when you mail a little, nothing will beat this:

1. Install Sendy.
2. Clean your lists (.datavalidation.com works for me)
3. Register with AWS (aws.amazon.com/ses/)
4. Raise your limit with AWS
5. Send mails until you are blue in the face at a fraction of the cost of everyone else with a WAY higher delivery rate.

Thank me later.

Thanks! Set this up today and it works great!

[Daniel Piers]

Originally Posted by MakeMeGrrrrowl

I was going to try them out since they integrate with my CRM and that would be really cool, but it clearly says they do not allow pornography/sexually explicit content.

I don't plan to send nude photos and I don't plan to be super dirty in the emails (but I gotta get a lil dirty going), but it's still linking to an adult site (with no full nude photos).

Anyone gotten around this? Used mailchimp successfully while promoting adult services?

I am currently with ynot, and they're good, but integrating with my CRM as well as their stats and unlimited emails makes them very attractive.

MailChimp isn't tolerant to any kind of adult stuff being promoted through them even though you don't have any nudes on your landing page. Tested

The best you can expect with MailChimp is to send some number of emails until their automated system flags your account as adult related, and their support is usually strict enough not to change their system's decision. After all, that's understandable, they have to work with thousands with different shady people daily, that's easier for them to simply restrict adult at all than giving any changes.

If you need any help, please don't hesitate contacting me, we are in adult mailing for 7 years, can tell you for sure what'll work out for you and what won't

[femdomdestiny]

Originally Posted by Markul

I've been through most of them, eventually you'll end up with your own solution if you mail a lot - even when you mail a little, nothing will beat this:

1. Install Sendy.
2. Clean your lists (.datavalidation.com works for me)
3. Register with AWS (aws.amazon.com/ses/)
4. Raise your limit with AWS
5. Send mails until you are blue in the face at a fraction of the cost of everyone else with a WAY higher delivery rate.

Thank me later.

I did this, and after doing it, I don't understand why people are paying so much for emails. Not sure were you recommending it, but thank you if that was you with same info many months ago.

[davidCRM]

AFAIK Mailchimp doesn't tolerate adult at all, SendGrid is OK with it.

[Klen]

Originally Posted by Markul

I've been through most of them, eventually you'll end up with your own solution if you mail a lot - even when you mail a little, nothing will beat this:

1. Install Sendy.
2. Clean your lists (.datavalidation.com works for me)
3. Register with AWS (aws.amazon.com/ses/)
4. Raise your limit with AWS
5. Send mails until you are blue in the face at a fraction of the cost of everyone else with a WAY higher delivery rate.

Thank me later.

Neat trick

[Bladewire]

Originally Posted by Markul

I've been through most of them, eventually you'll end up with your own solution if you mail a lot - even when you mail a little, nothing will beat this:

1. Install Sendy.
2. Clean your lists (.datavalidation.com works for me)
3. Register with AWS (aws.amazon.com/ses/)
4. Raise your limit with AWS
5. Send mails until you are blue in the face at a fraction of the cost of everyone else with a WAY higher delivery rate.

Thank me later.

Thank you!

[Barry-xlovecam]

Sendy sounds interesting Thanks

[Manfap]

Originally Posted by Konda

Transactional emails and emails to affiliates are fine (even if they contain porn related keywords/graphics) but they don't allow adult related promotional mailing to customers

They do allow it for some accounts. Depends on the content, and how clean your list is.

[HomerSimpson]

Another Sendy + Amazon SES user

[Rochard]

MailChimp doesn't like adult. I've also heard horror stories about people being kicked off of Amazon SES. They will take your money until you get a complain, and then drop kick you without warning.

If you are looking for an adult company to send out your adult emails, check out YNOT Mail.

[Nacho Love]

Originally Posted by Markul

I've been through most of them, eventually you'll end up with your own solution if you mail a lot - even when you mail a little, nothing will beat this:

1. Install Sendy.
2. Clean your lists (.datavalidation.com works for me)
3. Register with AWS (aws.amazon.com/ses/)
4. Raise your limit with AWS
5. Send mails until you are blue in the face at a fraction of the cost of everyone else with a WAY higher delivery rate.

Thank me later.

Sorry, Markul, but why do you need Sendy? Is not possible to manage everything through AWS?

[nyllover]

Mailchimp will kick you out, sooner or later. Without even sending naked pics. Just linking to an adult site is enough (personal experience).

[calidosas]

I used it a while and it seemed like a very complete mail management system.

[Markul]

Originally Posted by Nacho Love

Sorry, Markul, but why do you need Sendy? Is not possible to manage everything through AWS?

I am not sure they have an interface for creating the mails, create auto-responders etc.

Sendy is super easy to setup and use to build newsletters and manage lists - just remember to run your code through a CSS Inliner Tool (unless you hand code it and know what you are doing) if you use their WYSIWYG editor. Otherwise it won't look good in all mail clients - specifically Gmail. And you want to hit me Gmail and look good ;) She's like the 10'er at the club.

Here is a free one that works: https://templates.mailchimp.com/resources/inline-css/

[Markul]

Originally Posted by Rochard

MailChimp doesn't like adult. I've also heard horror stories about people being kicked off of Amazon SES. They will take your money until you get a complain, and then drop kick you without warning.

That is just not true unless you violate their terms and even so they give you a warning. Amazon is famous for their outstanding customer service btw.

I started using them when my old SaaS provider just turned off their datacenter and stopped replying to mails and calls. Thanks for that assholes. Poof, all data gone. All cleaned lists, all send mails campaigns, everything was lost.

I then started using Amazon SES but I forgot to clean my list (I had the raw list) - big fucking problem cause 15% bounched and they immediatly shut the sending down and asked me to explain what I was doing.

So I did. I explained that I forgot to clean the list and I did, they replied within a few hours and opened agian for sending and now my bounce rate is around 0.04%.

Read the fine print when you use a service and clean your lists and you're good.

Let's get some numbers on the table and show me that your system can beat them, because I know you can't.

Here are some numbers for opening rate development:


It's the same list. I know that subject has a lot to say, but this isn't a matter of a good subject or not - this is is a question of:

- Are you being inboxed or not.

You can deliver your mail, but if it goes to spam, promotions or something else - your opening rate will be shit.

And you won't be inboxed when you start out, but look at that growth. Ain't she a beauty? and an opening rate of 4.48% on first campaign is higher than the average opening rate of ALL ynotmail campaings... yes?

[Markul]

Originally Posted by Markul

... and an opening rate of 4.48% on first campaign is higher than the average opening rate of ALL ynotmail campaings... yes?

[Rochard]

Originally Posted by Markul

....an opening rate of 4.48% on first campaign is higher than the average opening rate of ALL ynotmail campaings... yes?

If someone had a 4% open rate on YNOT Mail I would work with them to improve their open rate.

[Zen-]

I had no idea mailchimp was not adult friendly, I have them setup on my affiliate blog which is about adult - I wonder if that breaks their TOS?

[Markul]

Originally Posted by Rochard

If someone had a 4% open rate on YNOT Mail I would work with them to improve their open rate.

Okay then

[windycityxx]

Will I have a problem if sending nude images with Amazon AWS?

Originally Posted by Markul

I've been through most of them, eventually you'll end up with your own solution if you mail a lot - even when you mail a little, nothing will beat this:

1. Install Sendy.
2. Clean your lists (.datavalidation.com works for me)
3. Register with AWS (aws.amazon.com/ses/)
4. Raise your limit with AWS
5. Send mails until you are blue in the face at a fraction of the cost of everyone else with a WAY higher delivery rate.

Thank me later.

[Drake]

Originally Posted by Markul

I've been through most of them, eventually you'll end up with your own solution if you mail a lot - even when you mail a little, nothing will beat this:

1. Install Sendy.
2. Clean your lists (.datavalidation.com works for me)
3. Register with AWS (aws.amazon.com/ses/)
4. Raise your limit with AWS
5. Send mails until you are blue in the face at a fraction of the cost of everyone else with a WAY higher delivery rate.

Thank me later.

Indeed, best option.

[sadiedazzle]

Do you use any sort of program to tell you if your email has spammy words in it? I find that those words seem to change all of the time.

Originally Posted by Markul

That is just not true unless you violate their terms and even so they give you a warning. Amazon is famous for their outstanding customer service btw.

I started using them when my old SaaS provider just turned off their datacenter and stopped replying to mails and calls. Thanks for that assholes. Poof, all data gone. All cleaned lists, all send mails campaigns, everything was lost.

I then started using Amazon SES but I forgot to clean my list (I had the raw list) - big fucking problem cause 15% bounched and they immediatly shut the sending down and asked me to explain what I was doing.

So I did. I explained that I forgot to clean the list and I did, they replied within a few hours and opened agian for sending and now my bounce rate is around 0.04%.

Read the fine print when you use a service and clean your lists and you're good.

Let's get some numbers on the table and show me that your system can beat them, because I know you can't.

Here are some numbers for opening rate development:


It's the same list. I know that subject has a lot to say, but this isn't a matter of a good subject or not - this is is a question of:

- Are you being inboxed or not.

You can deliver your mail, but if it goes to spam, promotions or something else - your opening rate will be shit.

And you won't be inboxed when you start out, but look at that growth. Ain't she a beauty? and an opening rate of 4.48% on first campaign is higher than the average opening rate of ALL ynotmail campaings... yes?

[Markul]

Originally Posted by windycityxx

Will I have a problem if sending nude images with Amazon AWS?

That shouldn't be a problem, read this:
https://forums.aws.amazon.com/thread...threadID=96614

Originally Posted by sadiedazzle

Do you use any sort of program to tell you if your email has spammy words in it? I find that those words seem to change all of the time.

I can recommend using this site:
https://www.mail-tester.com/

Not sure if this catches spammy words though, but it's a nice tool to see how you are doing. There are plenty of tools out there to check the content, try them out and let us know hehe