Re-watched Farenheit 9-11 and was amazed.

[Paul Markham]

I suggest you Clinton supporters re-watch it and see how a President can be bought far easier than hacked out of office.

She has far too many foreign investors to be President. Not that Trump is good it's just that he's less bad than Clinton.

Now the fight is on to change America.

[Rochard]

What does this have to do with "Clinton supporters"? Doesn't Farenheit 9-11 discuss the political connections between the Bush family and Saudi Arabia and the Bin Laden family?

[Paul Markham]

This has happened because Americans wanted it to happen. And you guys arguing over whether Clinton or Bush should have won it. Are blind.

[Paul Markham]

Look deeper Rochard.

[Bladewire]

Trump was bought, and he was cheap.

Paul why aren't you obsessed with Czech politics or make threads about UK politics?

[Paul Markham]

Yes Trump was bought cheap, because he wasn't meant to win.

Czech politics are fine. UK ones are in a mess and I do post about them. For instance I am very anti-mass migration and the devastion it has caused to the working classes.

[Bladewire]

Trump was bought cheap because they had to help Trump win. Open your eyes Paul.

[Paul Markham]

https://gfy.com/fucking-around-and-pr...hard-suck.html

Need I say more?

[Bladewire]

Originally Posted by Paul Markham

https://gfy.com/fucking-around-and-pr...hard-suck.html

Need I say more?

Asking a question is not saying a thing, it's pondering, closer to quizatory introspection ~ ~ ~ 🙏

[Paul Markham]

I'm showing you what a fucked up democracy you have where the choice is between crazy and dishonest. Neither Trump nor Clinton were great candidates, but Trump was better than Clinton.

[Acepimp]

Originally Posted by Paul Markham

https://gfy.com/fucking-around-and-pr...hard-suck.html

Need I say more?

BladeLiar seems uninterested in discussing facts. Let's try this:

Hey Bladewire, your preferred candidate was endorsed by the Bush family and Dick Cheney.

Trump is hated by establishment republicans like McCain, Graham, McConnell, Ryan, etc.

So what's it like to be on the side of all those evil scumbag republicans Bladewire?

[Acepimp]

Oh look, this expert on the construction of large buildings was RIGHT.

[wehateporn]

i watched that in the cinema, was good preparation for 9/11 Truth which arrived soon after

[Bladewire]

Originally Posted by wehateporn

i watched that in the cinema, was good preparation for 9/11 Truth which arrived soon after

Truth has facts to back it up, and truth is reality. Conspiracies aren't "truth", they are fandom.

I.e. Trump lies = Truth. Trump is a victim of the MSM = Conspiracy

Wehateporn has an agenda = Truth. Wehateporn is being monitored by MI6 = Conspiracy

[Rochard]

Originally Posted by Paul Markham

I'm showing you what a fucked up democracy you have where the choice is between crazy and dishonest. Neither Drumpf nor Clinton were great candidates, but Trump was better than Clinton.

You completely fail to understand how democracy works. We have a choice between a handful of candidates. Some are better than others. Hopefully the bad apples are removed.

[pimpmaster9000]

War is the biggest export for the USA these days...it's a way of life like in no other country...its only a matter of what cronies will get to invade next....invasion over lies? No problem LOL...

[Bladewire]

Originally Posted by crucifissio

War is the biggest export for the USA these days...it's a way of life like in no other country...its only a matter of what cronies will get to invade next....invasion over lies? No problem LOL...

War is the biggest export if Russia, not America. Used to be America, now is Russia starting 7 years ago.

[pimpmaster9000]

Originally Posted by Bladewire

War is the biggest export if Russia, not America. Used to be America, now is Russia starting 7 years ago.

Oh really LOL tell me, once the war is over is the USA going to just disband it's huge military and related industries or is it going to perpetuate war for ever?

Did anybody ever go to jail over the false invasion of Iraq? No? LOL

Russia's government is less corrupt than the us gov...I honestly believe this...

[Bladewire]

Originally Posted by crucifissio

Oh really LOL tell me, once the war is over is the USA going to just disband it's huge military and related industries or is it going to perpetuate war for ever?

Did anybody ever go to jail over the false invasion of Iraq? No? LOL

Russia's government is less corrupt than the us gov...I honestly believe this...

War is the biggest export of Russia now, not America. Used to be America, now is Russia starting 7 years ago. Russia is selling arms to everyone including NK, the Philippines etc. Stop living in the past it's a new world now

[Paul Markham]

Originally Posted by Acepimp

BladeLiar seems uninterested in discussing facts. Let's try this:

Hey Bladewire, your preferred candidate was endorsed by the Bush family and Dick Cheney.

Trump is hated by establishment republicans like McCain, Graham, McConnell, Ryan, etc.

So what's it like to be on the side of all those evil scumbag republicans Bladewire?

Bladewire seems not to want to answer this.

[Paul Markham]

Originally Posted by Bladewire

Truth has facts to back it up, and truth is reality. Conspiracies aren't "truth", they are fandom.

I.e. Trump lies = Truth. Trump is a victim of the MSM = Conspiracy

Wehateporn has an agenda = Truth. Wehateporn is being monitored by MI6 = Conspiracy

What are you on about?

[Paul Markham]

Originally Posted by Rochard

You completely fail to understand how democracy works. We have a choice between a handful of candidates. Some are better than others. Hopefully the bad apples are removed.

Absolutely wrong. There are many elections in the States where there are more than 2 candidates. The failure is with the electorate.

[Paul Markham]

Originally Posted by Bladewire

War is the biggest export of Russia now, not America. Used to be America, now is Russia starting 7 years ago. Russia is selling arms to everyone including NK, the Philippines etc. Stop living in the past it's a new world now

America has for too long been exporting wars. From NK to Iraq today. Thinking that everyone desires what they offer.

Would it had been so bad if NK had overrun SK, or NV had overrun SV?

There's no debated they created ISIS in invading Iraq they left a power vacuum. All to sell more arms and kill more Americans. To make the world unsafer.

[pimpmaster9000]

Originally Posted by Bladewire

War is the biggest export of Russia now, not America. Used to be America, now is Russia starting 7 years ago. Russia is selling arms to everyone including NK, the Philippines etc. Stop living in the past it's a new world now

USA weapons export 2016 = 35-40 billion$
russia weapons export 2016 = 5 billion




oh did anybody ever go to jail for the false invasion of Iraq over lies? no?

[Mickey_]

Originally Posted by Paul Markham

Look deeper Rochard...
Rothschard...
Rothschildhart
Rothschild

[Sarn]

Originally Posted by Bladewire

War is the biggest export if Russia, not America. Used to be America, now is Russia starting 7 years ago.

Originally Posted by Bladewire

War is the biggest export of Russia now, not America. Used to be America, now is Russia starting 7 years ago. Russia is selling arms to everyone including NK, the Philippines etc. Stop living in the past it's a new world now

Russia's top exports were: oil at $90 billion; gas $40 billion; arms $15 billion; and agriculture $15 billion.
https://www.rt.com/business/331720-r...-top-exporter/

[2MuchMark]

Originally Posted by Bladewire

Trump was bought, and he was cheap.

I thought about that... but what exactly did the Russians get for their money? it doesn't look like the sanctions will be lifted. Did Poot do all of this just because he hated Hillary Clinton? Doesn't make sense...

[Acepimp]

Originally Posted by 2MuchMark

I thought about that... but what exactly did the Russians get for their money? it doesn't look like the sanctions will be lifted. Did Poot do all of this just because he hated Hillary Clinton? Doesn't make sense...

^^ This is accurate. Trump has turned coal back on and built the pipelines. That's BAD for the Russian energy market. ANyone who follows politics closely knows that Putin wanted Hillary to win, because they already have so much dirt on her --> Easy to blackmail and control.

[Paul Markham]

Originally Posted by 2MuchMark

I thought about that... but what exactly did the Russians get for their money? it doesn't look like the sanctions will be lifted. Did Poot do all of this just because he hated Hillary Clinton? Doesn't make sense...

Hillary was being bought by the Saudis.

[johnny o]

Originally Posted by Rochard

What does this have to do with "Clinton supporters"? Doesn't Farenheit 9-11 discuss the political connections between the Bush family and Saudi Arabia and the Bin Laden family?

early onset dementia. #prayforpaul

[thommy]

Originally Posted by Paul Markham

I suggest you Clinton supporters re-watch it and see how a President can be bought far easier than hacked out of office.

She has far too many foreign investors to be President. Not that Trump is good it's just that he's less bad than Clinton.

Now the fight is on to change America.

paul maybe you should better read something like that

and no that was not a left winger or right winger who wrote this book - that was a CIA agent. i saw an interview with him tonight and he have something to tell the world about who created the terrorists. it is worth to read the whole book.

[Rochard]

Originally Posted by Paul Markham

Absolutely wrong. There are many elections in the States where there are more than 2 candidates. The failure is with the electorate.

I am not wrong at all. We have dozens of political parties and they all have candidates. Some of them even end up on the official ballot. But none of them have a hope in hell. We have a choice between Republican or Democrat, and that's it. We can vote for Micky Mouse if we wish, but the winner will always be either Republican or Democrat.

[Rochard]

Originally Posted by johnny o

early onset dementia. #prayforpaul

Am I wrong?

Moore then discusses the complex relationships between the U.S. government and the Bush family; and between the bin Laden family, the Saudi Arabian government, and the Taliban, which span over three decades. Moore alleges that the United States government evacuated 24 members of the bin Laden family on a secret flight shortly after the attacks, without subjecting them to any form of interrogation.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fahrenheit_9/11

[Bladewire]

Originally Posted by Sarn

Russia's top exports were: oil at $90 billion; gas $40 billion; arms $15 billion; and agriculture $15 billion.
https://www.rt.com/business/331720-r...-top-exporter/

America's top 10 exports:

1) Machinery including computers: US$190.5 billion (13.1% of total exports)

2) Electrical machinery, equipment: $167.2 billion (11.5%)

3) Aircraft, spacecraft: $134.6 billion (9.3%)

4) Vehicles : $124.3 billion (8.5%)

5) Mineral fuels including oil: $94.7 billion (6.5%)

6) Optical, technical, medical apparatus: $82.0 billion (5.6%)

7) Plastics, plastic articles: $58.4 billion (4.0%)

8) Gems, precious metals: $57.8 billion (4.0%)

9) Pharmaceuticals: $47.1 billion (3.2%)

10) Organic chemicals: $33.9 billion (2.3%)

United States Top 10 Exports

[Paul Markham]

Originally Posted by thommy

paul maybe you should better read something like that

and no that was not a left winger or right winger who wrote this book - that was a CIA agent. i saw an interview with him tonight and he have something to tell the world about who created the terrorists. it is worth to read the whole book.

Is the Intelligence Community led by the powers that be, or as it should be the powers that be led by the security community? What's the point of an intelligence community if it only offers the advice you want to hear?

The US has a long history in getting involved in places it has no right to be involved in.

[Paul Markham]

Originally Posted by Rochard

I am not wrong at all. We have dozens of political parties and they all have candidates. Some of them even end up on the official ballot. But none of them have a hope in hell. We have a choice between Republican or Democrat, and that's it. We can vote for Micky Mouse if we wish, but the winner will always be either Republican or Democrat.

Until the American voters wake up to the fact that neither the Dems or Reps represent their best interests the US is screwed. It's not as if the people who buy political power hide the facts.

[Paul Markham]

Originally Posted by Rochard

Am I wrong?

Moore then discusses the complex relationships between the U.S. government and the Bush family; and between the bin Laden family, the Saudi Arabian government, and the Taliban, which span over three decades. Moore alleges that the United States government evacuated 24 members of the bin Laden family on a secret flight shortly after the attacks, without subjecting them to any form of interrogation.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fahrenheit_9/11

What it showed was the influence a foreign power had in the actions of the US government. Influence that still goes on.

[thommy]

Originally Posted by Paul Markham

Is the Intelligence Community led by the powers that be, or as it should be the powers that be led by the security community? What's the point of an intelligence community if it only offers the advice you want to hear?

The US has a long history in getting involved in places it has no right to be involved in.

agree

but this is not something what you can fix with elections because it tells us that the mistake is already in the system.
it is a perfect system for people like trump who is very familiar with this corruption and he have a good teacher in goebbels rhetoric.

[Paul Markham]

Originally Posted by thommy

agree

but this is not something what you can fix with elections because it tells us that the mistake is already in the system.
it is a perfect system for people like trump who is very familiar with this corruption and he have a good teacher in goebbels rhetoric.

Democracy is the only way to fix it. Dictatorships have a very bad record of fixing anything.

The problem is with countries like the US, EU, etc. Where the elite rules the many.

Even some replies prove that. They say there's no point in voting for an outsider when the non-voting public is the largest group. If all those who didn't vote voted for an outsider, the majority would be heard.

[thommy]

Originally Posted by Paul Markham

Democracy is the only way to fix it. Dictatorships have a very bad record of fixing anything.

The problem is with countries like the US, EU, etc. Where the elite rules the many.

Even some replies prove that. They say there's no point in voting for an outsider when the non-voting public is the largest group. If all those who didn't vote voted for an outsider, the majority would be heard.

but the point on this book of this guy is that it shows you that the irak war was not only unnecessary - it was creating all this terror we have today.
if there would be still an irak WITH saddam the terror problem would not exist. and the same thing happend in lybia and it happens at the moment in syria.

this book is REALLY interesting and it explains a lot of what went wrong in the past.

[Paul Markham]

Originally Posted by thommy

but the point on this book of this guy is that it shows you that the irak war was not only unnecessary - it was creating all this terror we have today.
if there would be still an irak WITH saddam the terror problem would not exist. and the same thing happend in lybia and it happens at the moment in syria.

this book is REALLY interesting and it explains a lot of what went wrong in the past.

But a dictatorship isn't the answer. For too many reasons.

I do not regard the US as a true democracy, in that two parties with a very similar agenda control the Houses.

[Sarn]

Originally Posted by Bladewire

America's top 10 exports:

War is the biggest export of Russia now, not America (с) Bladewire

I mean it is not true. USA much more depends from war.


U.S. military is the largest employer in the world - MarketWatch

[pimpmaster9000]

Originally Posted by Sarn

War is the biggest export of Russia now, not America (с) Bladewire

I mean it is not true. USA much more depends from war.


U.S. military is the largest employer in the world - MarketWatch

Follow the money...

[INever]

Originally Posted by Paul Markham

America has for too long been exporting wars. From NK to Iraq today. Thinking that everyone desires what they offer.

Would it had been so bad if NK had overrun SK, or NV had overrun SV?

There's no debated they created ISIS in invading Iraq they left a power vacuum. All to sell more arms and kill more Americans. To make the world unsafer.

North Vietnam DID over-run the South, Paul.
But yeah, I get what you are saying.
Anyway, Paul, most people will not wake up in their entire life.
Now that you've just begun the journey, check out fakeologist.com, Rense.com, for starters....
F911 barely scratches the surface.

[Bladewire]

Originally Posted by thommy

but the point on this book of this guy is that it shows you that the irak war was not only unnecessary - it was creating all this terror we have today.
if there would be still an irak WITH saddam the terror problem would not exist. and the same thing happend in lybia and it happens at the moment in syria.

this book is REALLY interesting and it explains a lot of what went wrong in the past.

Bush is smarter than Trump and he got us into Iraq, imagine what Trump is going to do