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wehateporn · 08-09-2017, 02:53 PM

Political IQ test: What does it mean when CNN, MSNBC, Fox News and the President?s Twitter account all agree that a foreign state poses a suddenly increased threat to America?
A) If they all agree it must be true!
B) Well I dislike some of those outlets, but I trust one of them.
C) The US intelligence community would never lie to us.
D) Hmm? this sounds an awful lot like the leadup to Iraq?

If you said anything but D, you are of course a fucking moron. The United States power establishment has an extensive history of using lies, false flags and propaganda to manipulate its hundreds of millions of citizens into supporting needless military interventionism. From the Gulf of Tonkin incident to the false Nayirah testimony to the amazing network of lies spun about Saddam Hussein to the ?humanitarian? intervention in Libya to the unconscionable Bana Alabed psy-op in Syria, there is no depth to which the US war machine will not stoop in deceiving the public about the need to unload the military-industrial complex?s expensive inventory onto some third world country overseas, no limit to the evils that America?s unelected power establishment will commit in order to secure geopolitical dominance, and no end to the mass media propaganda machine?s willingness to report war propaganda as objective fact.

It is quite literally impossible to be too paranoid about these people. If you had an acquaintance who was a known compulsive liar with an extensive history of duping people into fighting one another for his own sociopathic amusement, how would you react if he handed you a gun and told you that your neighbor is getting ready to attack you?

The US government lies about war, and Phil Donahue was fired from his top-ranked show for expressing skepticism about the Iraq invasion. This fact should overlay every single segment of news media you consume which has anything to do with a potential military rival of the United States and its allies/client states. Like Dr. Gregory House?s perpetual mantra ?people lie?, awareness of the US war machine?s love of deceit and manipulation is absolutely essential in forming a clear worldview.

This is not to say that the completely evidence-free and unsourced report on this matter by the Washington Post ? which as usual violated standard journalistic protocol by failing to disclose in its report on US intelligence that its sole owner is a CIA contractor ? is necessarily completely untrue. It is entirely possible that North Korea has attained miniaturization and is now technologically capable of mounting a nuclear payload on an intercontinental ballistic missile; the DPRK has been claiming to have this capability since March of last year. It would be perfectly understandable if Kim Jong Un learned from Gaddafi?s mistake of relinquishing Libya?s rudimentary nuclear program and procured the deterrent of ICBM nukes as quickly as possible, given the increasingly shiny target that the nation has had painted on it by the western war machine.

What matters for the purpose of this consideration is not whether or not North Korea does in fact have long-range nuclear capability, what matters is that the US war machine wants you to think that it does right now. A narrative is being constructed, and our focus should be on what they are planning to use it for. If, just to put a wild example out there, Guam is flattened by a nuclear explosion next week, I will be the first person to call it a false flag. There is every reason to believe that the pervasively evil US war machine would do such a thing in order to manufacture support for its securing geopolitical dominance on China?s border, and there is no reason to believe that Kim Jong Un would spontaneously do such a thing. There is no mental illness in the DSM which is both hereditary and geared specifically toward unprovoked nuclear attacks; what they?ve been saying Kim Jong Il will do is now what they?re saying Kim Jong Un will do, and it makes no sense whatsoever. Do not believe these people.

This bizarre ?Kim Jong Un has nuke-button-pushing psychosis, just like his father did? narrative has been used as one of the many mealy-mouthed justifications for refusing to de-escalate and attempt diplomacy with North Korea, which is indeed on the table. From the excellent Moon of Alabama:

?Now consider what the U.S. media don?t tell you about Korea:

BEIJING, March 8 (Xinhua) ? China proposed ?double suspension? to defuse the looming crisis on the Korean Peninsula, Chinese Foreign Minister Wang Yi said Wednesday.

?As a first step, the Democratic People?s Republic of Korea (DPRK) may suspend its nuclear and missile activities in exchange for the suspension of large-scale U.S.-Republic of Korea (ROK) military exercises,? Wang told a press conference on the sidelines of the annual session of the National People?s Congress.
?
Wang said the nuclear issue on the Korean Peninsula is mainly between the DPRK and the United States, but China, as a next-door neighbor with a lips-and-teeth relationship with the Peninsula, is indispensable to the resolution of the issue.

FM Wang, ?the lips?, undoubtedly transmitted an authorized message from North Korea: ?The offer is (still) on the table and China supports it.?

North Korea has made the very same offer in January 2015. The Obama administration rejected it. North Korea repeated the offer in April 2016 and the Obama administration rejected it again. This March the Chinese government conveyed and supported the long-standing North Korean offer. The U.S. government, now under the Trump administration, immediately rejected it again. The offer, made and rejected three years in a row, is sensible. Its rejection only led to a bigger nuclear arsenal and to more missiles with longer reach that will eventually be able to reach the United States.?

I am not interested in defending Kim Jong Un here, just in pointing out that the US war machine lies constantly in order to justify regime change in sovereign nations. That?s all. It?s hard to be sure through the immense veil of western media spin how much of what is said about the disobedient communist government is a distortion of the facts, but we can be absolutely 100 percent certain that it is a sovereign nation, and that the US power establishment has an extensive, consistent history of lying to manufacture support for war. Be intensely skeptical. That?s all I?m saying here.

Continued https://medium.com/@caityjohnstone/o...a-3d5a5157cea2

mechanicvirus · 08-09-2017, 03:03 PM

wehateporn refuses to acknowledge this exists

Barry-xlovecam · 08-09-2017, 03:35 PM

The Chinese will end up tossing North Korea under the bus rather to endanger their trade

South Korea is an important trading partner with China and the rest of the world.
Should a crisis develop the US could refuse to pay bond debt to China and to redeem any bonds for the duration.

Trump and Kim are behaving like two kindergärtners paying with nukes in their sandbox -- a bad scenario. But most of this is foolish bluster. The adults are hopefully dealing with this.

pimpmaster9000 · 08-09-2017, 03:39 PM

North Korea has no intention of attacking first...they just want to be left alone but no, the usa has to stir shit up again because of war inc...every country has the right to arm the fuck up not just invaders...

wehateporn · 08-09-2017, 04:07 PM

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Originally Posted by mechanicvirus

wehateporn refuses to acknowledge this exists

One is Zionist-First and the other Globalist-First

Bladewire · 08-09-2017, 04:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by wehateporn

One is Zionist-First and the other Globalist-First

This is the man you admire like a father

wehateporn · 08-09-2017, 04:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bladewire

This is the man you admire like a father

i am not Milo by the way, I admire Mr Putin, though he was a bit naive when he first started out, trusting the word of George Bush Jr lol, now he's learned his lesson

Rochard · 08-09-2017, 05:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by wehateporn

Political IQ test: What does it mean when CNN, MSNBC, Fox News and the President?s Twitter account all agree that a foreign state poses a suddenly increased threat to America?
A) If they all agree it must be true!
B) Well I dislike some of those outlets, but I trust one of them.
C) The US intelligence community would never lie to us.
D) Hmm? this sounds an awful lot like the leadup to Iraq?

If you said anything but D, you are of course a fucking moron. The United States power establishment has an extensive history of using lies, false flags and propaganda to manipulate its hundreds of millions of citizens into supporting needless military interventionism. From the Gulf of Tonkin incident to the false Nayirah testimony to the amazing network of lies spun about Saddam Hussein to the ?humanitarian? intervention in Libya to the unconscionable Bana Alabed psy-op in Syria, there is no depth to which the US war machine will not stoop in deceiving the public about the need to unload the military-industrial complex?s expensive inventory onto some third world country overseas, no limit to the evils that America?s unelected power establishment will commit in order to secure geopolitical dominance, and no end to the mass media propaganda machine?s willingness to report war propaganda as objective fact.

It is quite literally impossible to be too paranoid about these people. If you had an acquaintance who was a known compulsive liar with an extensive history of duping people into fighting one another for his own sociopathic amusement, how would you react if he handed you a gun and told you that your neighbor is getting ready to attack you?

The US government lies about war, and Phil Donahue was fired from his top-ranked show for expressing skepticism about the Iraq invasion. This fact should overlay every single segment of news media you consume which has anything to do with a potential military rival of the United States and its allies/client states. Like Dr. Gregory House?s perpetual mantra ?people lie?, awareness of the US war machine?s love of deceit and manipulation is absolutely essential in forming a clear worldview.

This is not to say that the completely evidence-free and unsourced report on this matter by the Washington Post ? which as usual violated standard journalistic protocol by failing to disclose in its report on US intelligence that its sole owner is a CIA contractor ? is necessarily completely untrue. It is entirely possible that North Korea has attained miniaturization and is now technologically capable of mounting a nuclear payload on an intercontinental ballistic missile; the DPRK has been claiming to have this capability since March of last year. It would be perfectly understandable if Kim Jong Un learned from Gaddafi?s mistake of relinquishing Libya?s rudimentary nuclear program and procured the deterrent of ICBM nukes as quickly as possible, given the increasingly shiny target that the nation has had painted on it by the western war machine.

What matters for the purpose of this consideration is not whether or not North Korea does in fact have long-range nuclear capability, what matters is that the US war machine wants you to think that it does right now. A narrative is being constructed, and our focus should be on what they are planning to use it for. If, just to put a wild example out there, Guam is flattened by a nuclear explosion next week, I will be the first person to call it a false flag. There is every reason to believe that the pervasively evil US war machine would do such a thing in order to manufacture support for its securing geopolitical dominance on China?s border, and there is no reason to believe that Kim Jong Un would spontaneously do such a thing. There is no mental illness in the DSM which is both hereditary and geared specifically toward unprovoked nuclear attacks; what they?ve been saying Kim Jong Il will do is now what they?re saying Kim Jong Un will do, and it makes no sense whatsoever. Do not believe these people.

This bizarre ?Kim Jong Un has nuke-button-pushing psychosis, just like his father did? narrative has been used as one of the many mealy-mouthed justifications for refusing to de-escalate and attempt diplomacy with North Korea, which is indeed on the table. From the excellent Moon of Alabama:

?Now consider what the U.S. media don?t tell you about Korea:

BEIJING, March 8 (Xinhua) ? China proposed ?double suspension? to defuse the looming crisis on the Korean Peninsula, Chinese Foreign Minister Wang Yi said Wednesday.

?As a first step, the Democratic People?s Republic of Korea (DPRK) may suspend its nuclear and missile activities in exchange for the suspension of large-scale U.S.-Republic of Korea (ROK) military exercises,? Wang told a press conference on the sidelines of the annual session of the National People?s Congress.
?
Wang said the nuclear issue on the Korean Peninsula is mainly between the DPRK and the United States, but China, as a next-door neighbor with a lips-and-teeth relationship with the Peninsula, is indispensable to the resolution of the issue.

FM Wang, ?the lips?, undoubtedly transmitted an authorized message from North Korea: ?The offer is (still) on the table and China supports it.?

North Korea has made the very same offer in January 2015. The Obama administration rejected it. North Korea repeated the offer in April 2016 and the Obama administration rejected it again. This March the Chinese government conveyed and supported the long-standing North Korean offer. The U.S. government, now under the Drumpf administration, immediately rejected it again. The offer, made and rejected three years in a row, is sensible. Its rejection only led to a bigger nuclear arsenal and to more missiles with longer reach that will eventually be able to reach the United States.?

I am not interested in defending Kim Jong Un here, just in pointing out that the US war machine lies constantly in order to justify regime change in sovereign nations. That?s all. It?s hard to be sure through the immense veil of western media spin how much of what is said about the disobedient communist government is a distortion of the facts, but we can be absolutely 100 percent certain that it is a sovereign nation, and that the US power establishment has an extensive, consistent history of lying to manufacture support for war. Be intensely skeptical. That?s all I?m saying here.

Continued https://medium.com/@caityjohnstone/o...a-3d5a5157cea2

Well, it might raise Trump's approval rate.

Grapesoda · 08-09-2017, 07:30 PM

I have two speeds on and more on

Paul Markham · 08-09-2017, 10:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Barry-xlovecam

The Chinese will end up tossing North Korea under the bus rather to endanger their trade

Absolutely and the EU needs to exert pressure on China as well.

badgirlfilms · 08-10-2017, 09:27 AM

I agree

2MuchMark · 08-10-2017, 01:19 PM

Let's see:

Can NK really attack anyone with a missile? Maybe Guam, maybe other places. Can they get away with it? Absolutely not, but not because Trump might attack. NK would be condemned, and China would go over and bitchslap the hell out of Un.

Does Trump like this mess? Yes. He needs the distraction from the Russia investigation. Plus talking tough gives him and his cronies a boner.

Are people looking to profit from this? Of course. War Machine, etc etc. You don't need a battle to make money in war.

The whole world will be happy with Trump's giant flabby ass is kicked out of the WH and he is replaced with someone who can properly lead. Please please let this be soon.

Barry-xlovecam · 08-10-2017, 01:42 PM

How would you react if Vancouver, BC Canada was in his range -- and Kim threatened to nuke the Canadian city because some maple syrup gave him a toothache.

Sounds stupid but so is threating to nuke the USA

thommy · 08-10-2017, 01:55 PM

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Originally Posted by 2MuchMark

Does Trump like this mess? Yes. He needs the distraction from the Russia investigation. Plus talking tough gives him and his cronies a boner.

that´s the point !!!!!

nico-t · 08-10-2017, 02:12 PM

Whenever the MSM outlets like CNN, MSNBC, FOX etc are all of a sudden all collectively positive about something Trump does, it is because he is executing another establishment bullet point.

Remember, "liberals" are now following anything their media echo chamber tells them. When was the only time this media agreed with something Trump did? 2 things:

- Missile attack on Syria
- War hints against North Korea.

That's it. Notice what these 2 things have in common.... War. This is the only thing for example CNN is in favor of. They bash Trump on everything he does, EXCEPT acts of war.

That is because the establishment who control the MSM want war. Trump can play his own game only so far - he must obey the establishments war agenda, just like Bush, just like Obama.

I'm wondering if the "liberals" on here, like their "liberal" "news" outlets tell them, also support this. I remember back when he fired those missiles on Syria it was awfully quiet on here about Trump for 1 or 2 weeks... Because the MSM didn't bash him anymore, solely because he obeyed the war agenda, and the usual Trump bashers sheepishly followed. I and some others who are awake were one of the few who were CRITICAL of this act of war of Trump. 2 weeks or so passed, then he continued his own plans again, and the MSM started bashing everything he did again.

It is so obvious how this all goes down. I wouldn't want to miss Trump winning the election last year because it was the perfect "liberal" cry fest, but when push comes to shove, he has to obey the war agenda just like Bush and Obama. If he wouldn't, he would have been assassinated a long time ago.

08-09-2017, 02:53 PM	#1
wehateporn Promoting Debate on GFY Industry Role: Join Date: Apr 2007 Posts: 27,172	Only Morons Believe What The US Government Says About North Korea Political IQ test: What does it mean when CNN, MSNBC, Fox News and the President?s Twitter account all agree that a foreign state poses a suddenly increased threat to America? A) If they all agree it must be true! B) Well I dislike some of those outlets, but I trust one of them. C) The US intelligence community would never lie to us. D) Hmm? this sounds an awful lot like the leadup to Iraq? If you said anything but D, you are of course a fucking moron. The United States power establishment has an extensive history of using lies, false flags and propaganda to manipulate its hundreds of millions of citizens into supporting needless military interventionism. From the Gulf of Tonkin incident to the false Nayirah testimony to the amazing network of lies spun about Saddam Hussein to the ?humanitarian? intervention in Libya to the unconscionable Bana Alabed psy-op in Syria, there is no depth to which the US war machine will not stoop in deceiving the public about the need to unload the military-industrial complex?s expensive inventory onto some third world country overseas, no limit to the evils that America?s unelected power establishment will commit in order to secure geopolitical dominance, and no end to the mass media propaganda machine?s willingness to report war propaganda as objective fact. It is quite literally impossible to be too paranoid about these people. If you had an acquaintance who was a known compulsive liar with an extensive history of duping people into fighting one another for his own sociopathic amusement, how would you react if he handed you a gun and told you that your neighbor is getting ready to attack you? The US government lies about war, and Phil Donahue was fired from his top-ranked show for expressing skepticism about the Iraq invasion. This fact should overlay every single segment of news media you consume which has anything to do with a potential military rival of the United States and its allies/client states. Like Dr. Gregory House?s perpetual mantra ?people lie?, awareness of the US war machine?s love of deceit and manipulation is absolutely essential in forming a clear worldview. This is not to say that the completely evidence-free and unsourced report on this matter by the Washington Post ? which as usual violated standard journalistic protocol by failing to disclose in its report on US intelligence that its sole owner is a CIA contractor ? is necessarily completely untrue. It is entirely possible that North Korea has attained miniaturization and is now technologically capable of mounting a nuclear payload on an intercontinental ballistic missile; the DPRK has been claiming to have this capability since March of last year. It would be perfectly understandable if Kim Jong Un learned from Gaddafi?s mistake of relinquishing Libya?s rudimentary nuclear program and procured the deterrent of ICBM nukes as quickly as possible, given the increasingly shiny target that the nation has had painted on it by the western war machine. What matters for the purpose of this consideration is not whether or not North Korea does in fact have long-range nuclear capability, what matters is that the US war machine wants you to think that it does right now. A narrative is being constructed, and our focus should be on what they are planning to use it for. If, just to put a wild example out there, Guam is flattened by a nuclear explosion next week, I will be the first person to call it a false flag. There is every reason to believe that the pervasively evil US war machine would do such a thing in order to manufacture support for its securing geopolitical dominance on China?s border, and there is no reason to believe that Kim Jong Un would spontaneously do such a thing. There is no mental illness in the DSM which is both hereditary and geared specifically toward unprovoked nuclear attacks; what they?ve been saying Kim Jong Il will do is now what they?re saying Kim Jong Un will do, and it makes no sense whatsoever. Do not believe these people. This bizarre ?Kim Jong Un has nuke-button-pushing psychosis, just like his father did? narrative has been used as one of the many mealy-mouthed justifications for refusing to de-escalate and attempt diplomacy with North Korea, which is indeed on the table. From the excellent Moon of Alabama: ?Now consider what the U.S. media don?t tell you about Korea: BEIJING, March 8 (Xinhua) ? China proposed ?double suspension? to defuse the looming crisis on the Korean Peninsula, Chinese Foreign Minister Wang Yi said Wednesday. ?As a first step, the Democratic People?s Republic of Korea (DPRK) may suspend its nuclear and missile activities in exchange for the suspension of large-scale U.S.-Republic of Korea (ROK) military exercises,? Wang told a press conference on the sidelines of the annual session of the National People?s Congress. ? Wang said the nuclear issue on the Korean Peninsula is mainly between the DPRK and the United States, but China, as a next-door neighbor with a lips-and-teeth relationship with the Peninsula, is indispensable to the resolution of the issue. FM Wang, ?the lips?, undoubtedly transmitted an authorized message from North Korea: ?The offer is (still) on the table and China supports it.? North Korea has made the very same offer in January 2015. The Obama administration rejected it. North Korea repeated the offer in April 2016 and the Obama administration rejected it again. This March the Chinese government conveyed and supported the long-standing North Korean offer. The U.S. government, now under the Trump administration, immediately rejected it again. The offer, made and rejected three years in a row, is sensible. Its rejection only led to a bigger nuclear arsenal and to more missiles with longer reach that will eventually be able to reach the United States.? I am not interested in defending Kim Jong Un here, just in pointing out that the US war machine lies constantly in order to justify regime change in sovereign nations. That?s all. It?s hard to be sure through the immense veil of western media spin how much of what is said about the disobedient communist government is a distortion of the facts, but we can be absolutely 100 percent certain that it is a sovereign nation, and that the US power establishment has an extensive, consistent history of lying to manufacture support for war. Be intensely skeptical. That?s all I?m saying here. Continued https://medium.com/@caityjohnstone/o...a-3d5a5157cea2 __________________ Sexy Girls Teasing

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2MuchMark Videochat Solutions Industry Role: Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Canada Posts: 47,368	Let's see: Can NK really attack anyone with a missile? Maybe Guam, maybe other places. Can they get away with it? Absolutely not, but not because Trump might attack. NK would be condemned, and China would go over and bitchslap the hell out of Un. Does Trump like this mess? Yes. He needs the distraction from the Russia investigation. Plus talking tough gives him and his cronies a boner. Are people looking to profit from this? Of course. War Machine, etc etc. You don't need a battle to make money in war. The whole world will be happy with Trump's giant flabby ass is kicked out of the WH and he is replaced with someone who can properly lead. Please please let this be soon. __________________ VideoChat Solutions \| Custom Software \| IT Support https://www.2much.net \| https://www.lcntech.com

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Barry-xlovecam It's 42 Industry Role: Join Date: Jun 2010 Location: Global Posts: 18,083	The Chinese will end up tossing North Korea under the bus rather to endanger their trade South Korea is an important trading partner with China and the rest of the world. Should a crisis develop the US could refuse to pay bond debt to China and to redeem any bonds for the duration. Trump and Kim are behaving like two kindergärtners paying with nukes in their sandbox -- a bad scenario. But most of this is foolish bluster. The adults are hopefully dealing with this.

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Barry-xlovecam It's 42 Industry Role: Join Date: Jun 2010 Location: Global Posts: 18,083	How would you react if Vancouver, BC Canada was in his range -- and Kim threatened to nuke the Canadian city because some maple syrup gave him a toothache. Sounds stupid but so is threating to nuke the USA

08-10-2017, 02:12 PM	#15
nico-t emperor of my world Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: nethalands Posts: 29,904	Whenever the MSM outlets like CNN, MSNBC, FOX etc are all of a sudden all collectively positive about something Trump does, it is because he is executing another establishment bullet point. Remember, "liberals" are now following anything their media echo chamber tells them. When was the only time this media agreed with something Trump did? 2 things: - Missile attack on Syria - War hints against North Korea. That's it. Notice what these 2 things have in common.... War. This is the only thing for example CNN is in favor of. They bash Trump on everything he does, EXCEPT acts of war. That is because the establishment who control the MSM want war. Trump can play his own game only so far - he must obey the establishments war agenda, just like Bush, just like Obama. I'm wondering if the "liberals" on here, like their "liberal" "news" outlets tell them, also support this. I remember back when he fired those missiles on Syria it was awfully quiet on here about Trump for 1 or 2 weeks... Because the MSM didn't bash him anymore, solely because he obeyed the war agenda, and the usual Trump bashers sheepishly followed. I and some others who are awake were one of the few who were CRITICAL of this act of war of Trump. 2 weeks or so passed, then he continued his own plans again, and the MSM started bashing everything he did again. It is so obvious how this all goes down. I wouldn't want to miss Trump winning the election last year because it was the perfect "liberal" cry fest, but when push comes to shove, he has to obey the war agenda just like Bush and Obama. If he wouldn't, he would have been assassinated a long time ago.