Thanks Global Warming deniers

[2MuchMark]

Thanks Global Warming deniers

It's 32 celcius / 90 degrees Farenheit (adopt the metric system already!) today here, on September 26h, in Montreal, in freakin' CANADA. And it has been this hot for almost the past 2 weeks.

You've ruined everything. Goodbye.

[SpicyM]

[Barry-xlovecam]

Five days of a very hot Indian Summer just south of you a bit. Last day of heat today then back to normality. Unusual -- granted.

[tfto]

Originally Posted by 2MuchMark

Thanks Global Warming deniers

It's 32 celcius / 90 degrees Farenheit (adopt the metric system already!) today here, on September 26h, in Montreal, in freakin' CANADA. And it has been this hot for almost the past 2 weeks.

You've ruined everything. Goodbye.

Look at the upside. A couple more weeks of hot Canadian chicks in shorts and tank tops!...Sounds like you need to drink more beer to stay cool.. Eh?.

[CaptainHowdy]

Originally Posted by tfto

Look at the upside. A couple more weeks of hot Canadian chicks in shorts and tank tops!...Sounds like you need to drink more beer to stay cool.. Eh?.

Good thinking ...

[Rochard]

Have the igloos all melted yet?

[Paul Markham]

These are all you need to know.







The problem is made worse by population growth.





Thommy thinks the solution is education.

[Barry-xlovecam]

Look at all the Canadian visitors I had on my lawn last week.



Business as usual flying South for the winter ...

[Fat Panda]

montreal roughly same latitude as minneapolis

in winnipeg its 9 degrees c

climate change is a scam

just more #fakenews

thats all

[Barry-xlovecam]

I am not going to deny scientific fact. However, one fluke heatwave is not indicative of long term global treads.

The greatest effect is in the tropics. Any global warming will influence ocean temperatures, evaporation and rainfall -- and storm severity.

[wehateporn]

Even if climate change was manmade, it wouldn't necessarily be a bad thing e.g. increased temperatures would bring big benefit to Siberia

[Busty2]

Originally Posted by 2MuchMark

Thanks Global Warming deniers

It's 32 celcius / 90 degrees Farenheit (adopt the metric system already!) today here, on September 26h, in Montreal, in freakin' CANADA. And it has been this hot for almost the past 2 weeks.

You've ruined everything. Goodbye.

88F here in Maine or if you must 31.1111111111 celcius !!!!!!

[EonBlue]

Originally Posted by Fat Panda

montreal roughly same latitude as minneapolis

in winnipeg its 9 degrees c

climate change is a scam

just more #fakenews

thats all

Ya but to ********** when it is colder than normal where he lives is just local weather. But when is warmer than normal it is global warming catastrophe.

[2MuchMark]

Originally Posted by tfto

Look at the upside. A couple more weeks of hot Canadian chicks in shorts and tank tops!...Sounds like you need to drink more beer to stay cool.. Eh?.

I will admit, I have been enjoying it. Lots more days lately being pool-side and chillin'.

Originally Posted by Barry-xlovecam

Look at all the Canadian visitors I had on my lawn last week.



Business as usual flying South for the winter ...

Me too! Just behind my house there are thousands of geese landing and quacking and pooping and flying and partying and planning a take-over. They're beautiful.

Originally Posted by Fat Panda

montreal roughly same latitude as minneapolis

in winnipeg its 9 degrees c

climate change is a scam

just more #fakenews

thats all

That is all.

Originally Posted by Barry-xlovecam

I am not going to deny scientific fact. However, one fluke heatwave is not indicative of long term global treads.

But the emails!!!


.... and you sir, are correct sir.


The greatest effect is in the tropics. Any global warming will influence ocean temperatures, evaporation and rainfall -- and storm severity.[/QUOTE]

[EonBlue]

Originally Posted by 2MuchMark

Any global warming will influence ocean temperatures, evaporation and rainfall -- and storm severity.

The only thing it will reliably increase is the shrieking of the alarmists.

[thommy]

Originally Posted by Paul Markham

These are all you need to know.







The problem is made worse by population growth.





Thommy thinks the solution is education.

well if you believe and understand the stats you have posted than the only problem we have to resolve are the people who deny (or don´t understnd) it.

and as far as i can read here the ones who deny that are really fucking undereducated morons.

[crockett]

Originally Posted by Barry-xlovecam

I am not going to deny scientific fact. However, one fluke heatwave is not indicative of long term global treads.

The greatest effect is in the tropics. Any global warming will influence ocean temperatures, evaporation and rainfall -- and storm severity.

Tell that to the GFY gw denial club. Everytime it's cold outside they make a topic..

[2MuchMark]

Originally Posted by wehateporn

Even if climate change was manmade, it wouldn't necessarily be a bad thing e.g. increased temperatures would bring big benefit to Siberia

Some places might be better off, but everywhere else would be a disaster.

Originally Posted by EonBlue

Ya but to ********** when it is colder than normal where he lives is just local weather. But when is warmer than normal it is global warming catastrophe.

Warmer Arctic means cold winters elsewhere. Here's how.

Originally Posted by EonBlue

The only thing it will reliably increase is the shrieking of the alarmists.

So will all owners of the big sea-side homes. Blub blub..

[MediaGuy]

Originally Posted by tfto

Look at the upside. A couple more weeks of hot Canadian chicks in shorts and tank tops!...Sounds like you need to drink more beer to stay cool.. Eh?.

[EonBlue]

Originally Posted by 2MuchMark

Warmer Arctic means cold winters elsewhere. Here's how.

Sorry - I don't read anything that calls people "climate deniers". It's a completely made up, false and infantile smear wielded by smug morons that think they know what they are talking about.

Originally Posted by 2MuchMark

So will all owners of the big sea-side homes. Blub blub..

Ya, you should go to some of them and ask them how it came to be that their houses are built over top of coral.



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[Rochard]

Global warming is a fact. There is no denying it. We are coming out of an ice age, and it's going to get warmer. Everything is going to change.

[Helix]

and in the 1970's they were convinced we were entering into the next ice age.

[wehateporn]

World leaders duped by manipulated global warming data | Daily Mail Online

[wehateporn]

Originally Posted by Helix

and in the 1970's they were convinced we were entering into the next ice age.

There was also the 'acid rain' propaganda

[Helix]

Originally Posted by wehateporn

There was also the 'acid rain' propaganda

That's right, I forgot about that one...and the ozone hole.

[BaldBastard]

Our last summer, took until fall to start happening, best fall ever

Winter snapped in hard and cold but was short, now its spring and we are already getting summer temperatures, there's been no rain though, farmers are screwed, wild fire season will be crazy.

Month ago my Canadian friends were all bitching of a crap summer, and I was telling them.. wait. This years totally different summer comes late and lasts forever.

[oppoten]

As I always say in these threads...if it's a question of 'belief' or 'denial', then it's closer to religion than science.

[oppoten]

Originally Posted by wehateporn

[CENTER]

The scientist needs to be Einstein - "the world's only genius" - so he could call the kid an anti-semite for telling the truth.

Seriously, you don't need to bother doing research. It's a narrative, it's not meant to be true.

Look at who promotes it, how they promote it, and how quick they are to call people names. 100 per cent Jewish. The goal is to hold whitey back, by tapping into our guilt weakness.

[oppoten]

^ I mean, if we (whites) were building colonies on Mars by now, they'd have some "Mars-warming" propoganda going on.

Their notion of "goyim" only works if whites are held back. In a way it's a compliment.

[Paul Markham]

Originally Posted by thommy

well if you believe and understand the stats you have posted than the only problem we have to resolve are the people who deny (or don´t understnd) it.

and as far as i can read here the ones who deny that are really fucking undereducated morons.

You see how hard it is to educate some people. You want to educate the world!!!

[Paul Markham]

Originally Posted by Fat Panda

montreal roughly same latitude as minneapolis

in winnipeg its 9 degrees c

climate change is a scam

just more #fakenews

thats all

Explain the graphs I posted showing trends covering 100,000s of years.

[Paul Markham]

Originally Posted by EonBlue

Ya but to ********** when it is colder than normal where he lives is just local weather. But when is warmer than normal it is global warming catastrophe.

Explain the graphs I posted showing trends covering 100,000s of years.

[EonBlue]

Originally Posted by Paul Markham

Explain the graphs I posted showing trends covering 100,000s of years.

Why do you post graphs if you don't understand their meaning?

[thommy]

Originally Posted by wehateporn

World leaders duped by manipulated global warming data | Daily Mail Online

just for making your post complete with the other facts what you did NOT post here

https://www.facingsouth.org/2011/09/...stry-ties.html

https://www.theguardian.com/environm...tic-inaccurate

[thommy]

Originally Posted by Paul Markham

Explain the graphs I posted showing trends covering 100,000s of years.

why should i here write a book?

here is a site what explains you quite well why these arguments are wrong.

https://www.skepticalscience.com/cli...termediate.htm

the problem of your stats and conclusions from that is, that the world is in a circle where we should get into an ice age. but the opposite happens.

read a bit through the link i´ve send you and possibly you understand a bit more why this facts are no facts.

[EonBlue]

Originally Posted by thommy

https://www.skepticalscience.com/cli...termediate.htm

The Skeptical Science site is run by a bunch of activists and there is not a single climate or atmospheric scientist among them.

That link you posted has them trying to debunk a "myth" credited to Richard Lindzen who is a real climate and atmospheric scientist.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Richard_Lindzen

Richard Siegmund Lindzen (born February 8, 1940) is an American atmospheric physicist known for his work in the dynamics of the middle atmosphere, atmospheric tides, and ozone photochemistry. He has published more than 200 scientific papers and books. From 1983[1] until his retirement in 2013, he was Alfred P. Sloan Professor of Meteorology at the Massachusetts Institute of Technology.[2] He was a lead author of Chapter 7, "Physical Climate Processes and Feedbacks," of the Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change's Third Assessment Report on climate change.

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[2MuchMark]

Originally Posted by EonBlue

Sorry - I don't read anything that calls people "climate deniers". It's a completely made up, false and infantile smear wielded by smug morons that think they know what they are talking about..

Knowledge is good.

Originally Posted by EonBlue

Ya, you should go to some of them and ask them how it came to be that their houses are built over top of coral.

I don't get it.

Originally Posted by Helix

and in the 1970's they were convinced we were entering into the next ice age.

40 years is alot when it comes to technological advancement. Just sayin'.

Originally Posted by wehateporn

[CENTER]

The kid isn't paying attention in science class. Weather and Climate are 2 different things.

Originally Posted by wehateporn

Dr. Roy Spencer is an interesting fellow. Alot of what he says is true, but alot of it is misleading. There's a good charge located here https://www.skepticalscience.com/ske...oy_Spencer.htm that compares what he says, to actual science.

Originally Posted by wehateporn

World leaders duped by manipulated global warming data | Daily Mail Online

Nope! Read the full story at NOAA Scientists Falsely Accused of Manipulating Climate Change Data

And again, please always trust reliable sources like National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration | U.S. Department of Commerce and nasa.org for this stuff.

[Klen]

I remember times when on early october there was snow already, and now it's close to 25 C degrees. One thing is having one year anomaly, but this just keep growing and growing in temperatures, so unless there will be normalization in next 5 years, it's a global warming. End of debate.

[2MuchMark]

Originally Posted by wehateporn

There was also the 'acid rain' propaganda

It wasn't propaganda. It was a real problem, and it was solved thanks to science and good politics. Whatever happened to acid rain?

Originally Posted by Helix

That's right, I forgot about that one...and the ozone hole.

Dude, seriously?

Whatever Happened to the Ozone Hole?

Originally Posted by EonBlue

The Skeptical Science site is run by a bunch of activists and

Wow. Is Nasa and NOAA run by activists too?

[EonBlue]

Originally Posted by 2MuchMark

Knowledge is good.

Yes it is. People that call others "climate deniers" should try gaining some.

Originally Posted by 2MuchMark

I don't get it.

For example much of Florida is composed of coral and limestone because it used to be under the sea. People that build houses there are on borrowed land because the sea will come to take it back.

Originally Posted by 2MuchMark

Nope! Read the full story at NOAA Scientists Falsely Accused of Manipulating Climate Change Data

Snopes is another activist site that can't be trusted with the truth.

Originally Posted by 2MuchMark

And again, please always trust reliable sources like National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration | U.S. Department of Commerce and nasa.org for this stuff.

Appeal to authority. They have proven to be unreliable at times when it comes to climate change because of activist direction from above.




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[BlackCrayon]

Originally Posted by EonBlue

Yes it is. People that call others "climate deniers" should try gaining some.




For example much of Florida is composed of coral and limestone because it used to be under the sea. People that build houses there are on borrowed land because the sea will come to take it back.




Snopes is another activist site that can't be trusted with the truth.




Appeal to authority. They have proven to be unreliable at times when it comes to climate change because of activist direction from above.




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So basically unless it aligns with what you think is the truth (or want to believe), its all propaganda?

[EonBlue]

Originally Posted by BlackCrayon

So basically unless it aligns with what you think is the truth (or want to believe), its all propaganda?

No, not at all. I don't deny climate change.

I think you should ask your question to the alarmists who refuse to listen to anything contrary to what they think is the truth (or want to believe).

There are legitimate and distinguished scientists out there that question the current dogma and provide ample evidence but they are always shut out of the debate by the hysterics of the alarmists. You know there is a problem when it is socially unacceptable to go against the mob mentality even if you are an expert and can back up what you say.



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[GAMEFINEST]

What comes around goes around

[thommy]

Originally Posted by EonBlue

No, not at all. I don't deny climate change.

I think you should ask your question to the alarmists who refuse to listen to anything contrary to what they think is the truth (or want to believe).

There are legitimate and distinguished scientists out there that question the current dogma and provide ample evidence but they are always shut out of the debate by the hysterics of the alarmists. You know there is a problem when it is socially unacceptable to go against the mob mentality even if you are an expert and can back up what you say.



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i really think that we all here have not enough skills to understand this whole issue - none of us have studied it or even have a deeper knowledge in this science. the only thing what i do is just a simple research to find out who get paid from whom.

as only 3% of scientiests of the whole world do not doubt the human made climate change and the most of this 3% are outed as being on the payroll of companies like exon or koch than I use simple logic to decide who i believe.

i will not even go so far to say that i can feel it (even when i think that winters in the past have been much colder) because i know that nobody can trust his own brain and memories.

but i can see that weather phenomenons are rising since 20-30 years extremely - when i see that the temperature of the oceans are already nearly 1 centigrade higher as in the last 100.000 years - when i see that islands are gone already and at least know enough about physics that I know what happens with the oxygen in salt water when it heats up, than i do not have another chance as to believe them.

look what alternatives do we have?

1. we can wait if it happens or not - but IF 97% of all scientists are correct there is no way to change that anymore.

or

2. we do something against it and when it will NOT happen BECAUSE we did something - all the deniers will stand up and say : see? nothing happend ! we told you?

i personally prefer number 2 because i better live with idiots as to die because of idiots.

[AndyA]

it's disgusting these people are being fooled by the people they vote for

[2MuchMark]

Originally Posted by EonBlue

I think you should ask your question to the alarmists who refuse to listen to anything contrary to what they think is the truth (or want to believe).

For example?

I have an idea. Pick a single item around Climate change, and post it here. Leave out any passion or politics and focus only on the item, and let's discuss it.

I think that one thing that happens all the time is that discussions tend to break out into multiple tangents all the time making points harder to focus on. So if we can, let's stick to a single item or group, and see if we can come to some kind of agreement, or correct the other's misinterpretation. Sound like fun?

[SantaClause]

I don't think it's because of the deniers, it's just global warming this time.

[EonBlue]

Originally Posted by 2MuchMark

For example?

I have an idea. Pick a single item around Climate change, and post it here. Leave out any passion or politics and focus only on the item, and let's discuss it.

I think that one thing that happens all the time is that discussions tend to break out into multiple tangents all the time making points harder to focus on. So if we can, let's stick to a single item or group, and see if we can come to some kind of agreement, or correct the other's misinterpretation. Sound like fun?

I don't really have time for this right now but I can check in occasionally when I do have time. For now, we could start with thommy's statement above:

as only 3% of scientiests of the whole world do not doubt the human made climate change and the most of this 3% are outed as being on the payroll of companies like exon or koch than I use simple logic to decide who i believe.

How are you supposed to discuss the topic with anybody that seriously believes that? The 97% figure is a bogus claim based off of a bogus study and there is no proof of the supposed other 3% being on oil company payrolls.

Any debate is a non-starter for people like him because he has been force-fed the propaganda and he accepts it without question.



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[Barry-xlovecam]

Jesus travels to denile in Egypt riding a dinosaur, Really!



Just like those fake news charts!

[thommy]

Originally Posted by EonBlue

I don't really have time for this right now but I can check in occasionally when I do have time. For now, we could start with thommy's statement above:



How are you supposed to discuss the topic with anybody that seriously believes that? The 97% figure is a bogus claim based off of a bogus study and there is no proof of the supposed other 3% being on oil company payrolls.

Any debate is a non-starter for people like him because he has been force-fed the propaganda and he accepts it without question.
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so whatever if it is 97 or 96 or 95 or 90% - it is the far bigger majority and if you research a bit for the background of the deniers you will end up in most cases at the oil and coal lobby who finance them.

https://www.theguardian.com/environm...ying-lawmakers