Puerto Rico is going to get shafted

[bronco67]

I was watching the mayor of San Juan in an interview describing just how bad it is there. She's talking in the darkest terms about a major humanitarian crisis looming there. Some people in her position would break down talking about the crazy shit she's seeing on a daily basis.

I have a feeling that with this current administration unable to wipe it's own ass, we're about to see what a Puerto Rican Mad Max movie would look like. The Trump administration can only do things like ban travelers and attempt to take away rights from people. When it comes to doing the right thing...it's not something they excel at.

Do you think it'll be a lackluster response resulting in many deaths -- or will it be an amazing response and save lives? I'll put my money on lackluster.

[RedFred]

Not white enough for Trump to care. This will be his Katrina.

[beerptrol]

maybe they should post pictures of themselves kneeling before the flag. That way chump will give them some attention.

[onwebcam]

Originally Posted by bronco67

I was watching the mayor of San Juan in an interview describing just how bad it is there. She's talking in the darkest terms about a major humanitarian crisis looming there.

I have a feeling that with this current administration unable to wipe it's own ass, we're about to see what a Puerto Rican Mad Max movie would look like. The Trump administration can only do things like ban travelers and attempt to take away rights from people. When it comes to doing the right thing...it's not something they excel at.

Do you think it'll be a lackluster response resulting in many deaths -- or will it be an amazing response and save lives? I'll put my money on lackluster.

You can thank Bill Clinton for the problem.

https://www.cnbc.com/2017/09/26/here...s-economy.html

[beerptrol]

Chump tactic...always blame someone else lol

[bronco67]

Originally Posted by onwebcam

You can thank Bill Clinton for the problem.

https://www.cnbc.com/2017/09/26/here...s-economy.html

What the fuck does that have to do with a federal hurricane response? Because one of our states is in financial trouble, we should think about cutting our losses or something?

[Helix]

I just heard a blurb about this today. They mentioned that the US armed forces has already been fully engaged in delivering water, generators, working on restoring infrastructure necessities etc. but the Media hasn't been reporting on it.

[C H R I S]

Originally Posted by bronco67

What in fuck does that have to do with a federal hurricane response? Because one of our states is in financial trouble, we should think about cutting our losses or something?

He carries the party line, even if completely idiotic and misinformed.

[RedFred]

Originally Posted by Helix

I just heard a blurb about this today. They mentioned that the US armed forces has already been fully engaged in delivering water, generators, working on restoring infrastructure necessities etc. but the Media hasn't been reporting on it.

Anything you guys won't lie about?

[Helix]

Here?s Everything The U.S. Military Is Doing To Help Devastated Puerto Rico

US Military Is Aiding Puerto Rico | The Daily Caller

[onwebcam]

Originally Posted by bronco67

What in fuck does that have to do with a federal hurricane response? Because one of our states is in financial trouble, we should think about cutting our losses or something?

It was already in shambles before the hurricane. As far as your belief I think your wrong and as someone else said many things are already in motion. Teams of people from all over the US are already on the ground planning on how to get power back up. I have a friend and her family that was stranded there and commercial flights are flying people out for free. (free to the person but I would imagine paid for by the US gov.) Just a few things that I'm aware of.

[baddog]

The fact that she said she was too busy to fill out the paperwork so FEMA knows what they need, shows how unqualified she is for her position.

She is out doing photo ops when she should be taking care of business.

I feel sorry for my friends there.

[Helix]

Being offshore is a difficulty multiplier. It's not like you can drive there with the needed materials and supplies.

[baddog]

Originally Posted by Helix

Being offshore is a difficulty multiplier. It's not like you can drive there with the needed materials and supplies.

#thankstrump

[bronco67]

Originally Posted by baddog

The fact that she said she was too busy to fill out the paperwork so FEMA knows what they need, shows how unqualified she is for her position.

She is out doing photo ops when she should be taking care of business.

I feel sorry for my friends there.

Do you think she'll more do good being another body in the field, or by speaking with intense emotion to the world about what's going on? She wouldn't be doing her job better by stacking sandbags.

[Helix]

She should be coordinating with FEMA instead of making youtube videos.

[bronco67]

Originally Posted by Helix

She should be coordinating with FEMA instead of making youtube videos.

That's a youtube video of CBS news. You conservabros are dumb as shit, on top of already being major assholes with shitty opinions.

[RedFred]

Originally Posted by bronco67

That's a youtube video of CBS news. You conservabros are dumb as shit, on top of already being major assholes with shitty opinions.

They'll defend Trump starving 3.5 million people. That's how morally bankrupt they've become.

[Rochard]

trump is doing nothing at all. He hasn't done anything for Houston, Florida, and now Puerto Rico. trump signed a piece of paper sending financial aid, but that's it. He did the bare minimum.

There are over three million American citizens in Puerto Rico who will not have power for months.

Not including the air craft carrier in dry dock, we have two aircraft carriers in port on the east coast. I understand it takes some effort to get these ships fully manned and supplied, but the moment we knew Puerto Rico suffered a direct hit shouldn't someone in our government say "Maybe we should get one of these ships out to sea in the event we need them"?

The US Navy has two hospital ships, the Mercy and the Comfort; Why aren't these being deployed? Again, I understand such ships cannot just leave port but perhaps they should have started the process a week ago and perhaps they could just be arriving on station now.

Instead, our government has done.... pretty much nothing.

Then again, what did we expect from someone who's biggest claim to fame was firing Meatloaf on national TV.

[Matt 26z]

The US should not rush to help too quickly. There needs to be consequences for maintaining a nation that can't care for itself.

[kane]

Originally Posted by Rochard

trump is doing nothing at all. He hasn't done anything for Houston, Florida, and now Puerto Rico. trump signed a piece of paper sending financial aid, but that's it. He did the bare minimum.

There are over three million American citizens in Puerto Rico who will not have power for months.

Not including the air craft carrier in dry dock, we have two aircraft carriers in port on the east coast. I understand it takes some effort to get these ships fully manned and supplied, but the moment we knew Puerto Rico suffered a direct hit shouldn't someone in our government say "Maybe we should get one of these ships out to sea in the event we need them"?

The US Navy has two hospital ships, the Mercy and the Comfort; Why aren't these being deployed? Again, I understand such ships cannot just leave port but perhaps they should have started the process a week ago and perhaps they could just be arriving on station now.

Instead, our government has done.... pretty much nothing.

Then again, what did we expect from someone who's biggest claim to fame was firing Meatloaf on national TV.

I read that the Navy is now being activated and the Comfort is being sent there. Funny enough, Hillary Clinton tweeted about doing just this then a few days later it happens. Might be coincidence, maybe not. Either way, it will take a little time for these ships to get ready and get there. They should have been prepping them as the storm was heading that way.

[kane]

Originally Posted by Matt 26z

The US should not rush to help too quickly. There needs to be consequences for maintaining a nation that can't care for itself.

Just when a person thinks you can't get any stupider, you post this.

[blackmonsters]

Originally Posted by kane

Just when a person thinks you can't get any stupider, you post this.

And he has no idea why what he said is so stupid.

[loreen]

Originally Posted by bronco67

Do you think she'll more do good being another body in the field, or by speaking with intense emotion to the world about what's going on? She wouldn't be doing her job better by stacking sandbags.

Exactly. Her job is to represent and be the image of those people.

[Paul Markham]

Originally Posted by Helix

I just heard a blurb about this today. They mentioned that the US armed forces has already been fully engaged in delivering water, generators, working on restoring infrastructure necessities etc. but the Media hasn't been reporting on it.

And the UK Armed Forces. But it makes a better story if it's presented as Trump doing nothing.

[NatalieK]

After looking at some photos today, it looks awful over there still & seems you´re right op

[EonBlue]

Defense Department: Hurricane relief around the clock

In San Juan, Puerto Rico Gov. Ricardo Rossello appeared at a brief news conference Monday and praised the U.S. federal response to Hurricane Maria, which has included sending nearly 10,000 people to help recovery from the devastation. He also said his government has been in touch with mayors across the island and was working to get food and water to isolated communities cut off after the hurricane.

Rossello said federal agencies also have helped restore power to a medical center in San Juan and supply diesel to fuel the generators of hospitals as well as deliver food and water to hard-hit communities across the island. And the governor said he was "very grateful" to President Donald Trump for responding Puerto Rico's petition for help.

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[Rochard]

Originally Posted by kane

I read that the Navy is now being activated and the Comfort is being sent there. Funny enough, Hillary Clinton tweeted about doing just this then a few days later it happens. Might be coincidence, maybe not. Either way, it will take a little time for these ships to get ready and get there. They should have been prepping them as the storm was heading that way.

Why didn't they do this a week ago?

[astronaut x]

Originally Posted by RedFred

Not white enough for Trump to care. This will be his Katrina.

This will be far worse then Katrina.

[astronaut x]

Originally Posted by onwebcam

You can thank Bill Clinton for the problem.

https://www.cnbc.com/2017/09/26/here...s-economy.html

Oh dear god.....Go trumpbot!

[astronaut x]

Originally Posted by kane

I read that the Navy is now being activated and the Comfort is being sent there. Funny enough, Hillary Clinton tweeted about doing just this then a few days later it happens. Might be coincidence, maybe not. Either way, it will take a little time for these ships to get ready and get there. They should have been prepping them as the storm was heading that way.

Before Irma hit Florida, driving northbound on 75, I passed hundreds of line trucks driving southbound.

But then again, Florida votes, and most often Republican.

[astronaut x]

Originally Posted by Paul Markham

And the UK Armed Forces. But it makes a better story if it's presented as Trump doing nothing.

What is he doing actually?

Do you think he has someone writing his NFL tweets for him?

[baddog]

Originally Posted by astronaut x

Before Irma hit Florida, driving northbound on 75, I passed hundreds of line trucks driving southbound.

But then again, Florida isn't an island.

Fixed it for the idiots here.

[JFK]

Originally Posted by Helix

I just heard a blurb about this today. They mentioned that the US armed forces has already been fully engaged in delivering water, generators, working on restoring infrastructure necessities etc. but the Media hasn't been reporting on it.

Where is the PR ?

[AndyA]

Puerto Rico signed a terrible deal with US investors. Essentially promising to pay THEM back before ANYTHING else
infrastructure etc... which put them $70 billion in debt and since they are not technically a State that cannot declare bankruptcy...

this just put the dagger in such a terrible way

Regardless I'm sure Trump will do the exact wrong thing

[mineistaken]

More "refugees" to US...

[Fat Panda]

some clearly dont understand US disaster response

80% is local/state

of course its goin be bad when u have a broken, broke ass state like pr

[Rochard]

Originally Posted by Helix

I just heard a blurb about this today. They mentioned that the US armed forces has already been fully engaged in delivering water, generators, working on restoring infrastructure necessities etc. but the Media hasn't been reporting on it.

I read about this too.... Two thousand troops... to help three million people?

[EonBlue]

Originally Posted by Rochard

I read about this too.... Two thousand troops... to help three million people?

10,000 people according to the article I posted above.

[Matt 26z]

PR is of near zero value to the US here in 2017 and shouldn't even be a territory anymore. The original purpose was to expand naval stations into the Caribbean for the coal powered ships.

[RedFred]

[astronaut x]

Originally Posted by baddog

Fixed it for the idiot here. Me

Logistics.

Interestingly...
Both logic and logistics ultimately derive from the Greek logos, meaning "reason." But while logic derives directly from Greek, logistics took a longer route, first passing into French as logistique, meaning "art of calculating," and then into English from there.

[ruff]

There are a lot of flaming assholes in this thread. Decided not to finish reading their bullshit. tRump is a fuck-up. Nothing else to be said. Defend this turd makes you a turd.

[Rochard]

Originally Posted by Fat Panda

some clearly dont understand US disaster response

80% is local/state

of course its goin be bad when u have a broken, broke ass state like pr

In the case of Houston or Florida that might work. In the case of Puerto Rico it's a very different story. The entire state is an island, and the entire island was hit.

The only agency that can handle the logistics of this is the DOD... Even FEMA cannot handle this; FEMA doesn't have ships and planes.

[baddog]

Originally Posted by Rochard

In the case of Houston or Florida that might work. In the case of Puerto Rico it's a very different story. The entire state is an island, and the entire island was hit.

The only agency that can handle the logistics of this is the DOD... Even FEMA cannot handle this; FEMA doesn't have ships and planes.

And you think the DOD can legally just step in?

I thought you used to be a Marine.

[astronaut x]

Originally Posted by baddog

And you think the DOD can legally just step in?

I thought you used to be a Marine.

Please enlighten us.

What is causing them from not being legally able to step in?

[baddog]

Originally Posted by astronaut x

Please enlighten us.

What is causing them from not being legally able to step in?

Mission Statement. The mission of the Federal Emergency Management Agency (FEMA) is to reduce the loss of life and property and protect our institutions from all hazards by leading and supporting the nation in a comprehensive, risk-based emergency management program of mitigation, preparedness, response, and recovery.

The mission of the Department of Defense is to provide the military forces needed to deter war and to protect the security of our country. The department's headquarters is at the Pentagon.

In other words, it isn't their job; even if it was California, they would have to be asked.

[mhende6600]

It's really bad down there hope everything works out

[directfiesta]

Originally Posted by Helix

Being offshore is a difficulty multiplier. It's not like you can drive there with the needed materials and supplies.

those are tiny hands... in a middle of a big body ... with a tiny brain ....

[Barry-xlovecam]

Hispanic Americans, that primarily speak Spanish, with limited US citizenship rights and cannot vote in US elections?

You serious? --They might as well be in Bangladesh (as far as Trump's government is concerned) ...