Food insecurity in the US.

[Paul Markham]

Just watched the documentary A Place At The Table. It was about people, especially children going hungry in the US. The facts were staggering.









Many of the people going to bed hungry had jobs or children and their parents had jobs.



A Place at the Table (2012) - IMDb

[Steve Rupe]

Originally Posted by Paul Markham

Just watched the documentary A Place At The Table. It was about people, especially children going hungry in the US. The facts were staggering.









Many of the people going to bed hungry had jobs or children and their parents had jobs.



A Place at the Table (2012) - IMDb

What crap. Anyone hungry in the US it is by choice or in the case of children it is by the choices made by their parents.

[Fat Panda]

fuckem.

and their unproductive, no value adding parents

[sarettah]

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[beerptrol]

Republicans only care when they are still in the womb and they can dictate to a women what they can or cannot do. Fuck them once they are born

[Barry-xlovecam]

I haven't had to worry about food to eat in 40 years -- about 2/3 of my lifetime. However, too many people in the whole fucking world struggle to find shelter and have food to eat.

We Americans are so fat or even obese but we have no food to eat?

So, what is your solution Paul? Give everyone free food and shelter? Nice thought but who would pay for it all? The tooth fairy?

I don't see people starving in the streets here in the USA -- just drug addicts and some alcoholics that are basically useless anyway. Some of them actually get food stamps too BTW!

[Steve Rupe]

Originally Posted by Barry-xlovecam

I haven't had to worry about food to eat in 40 years -- about 2/3 of my lifetime. However, too many people in the whole fucking world struggle to find shelter and have food to eat.

So, what is your solution Paul? Give everyone free food and shelter? Nice thought but who would pay for it all? The tooth fairy?

I will repeat that no one in America is hungry other than by choice other than children who have rotten parents that purposely deprive them of food so that the parents can do other things. Food is available in plentiful amounts to all Americans. To claim other wise is just pure crap.

[Bladewire]

Paul Markham posts a thread about starving minority children in America to push the racist agenda. Another day on the new GFY

Paul your map of food insecurity shows the most food insecure states are the racist Southern states the worst being Mississippi and Alabama.

Why do the most racist states care the least about feeding the children of America? That should be your question Paul, according to your map.

[Grapesoda]

Originally Posted by Steve Rupe

I will repeat that no one in America is hungry other than by choice other than children who have rotten parents that purposely deprive them of food so that the parents can do other things. Food is available in plentiful amounts to all Americans. To claim other wise is just pure crap.

That's a very interesting statement

[CaptainHowdy]

You're the chart man, Paul ...

[Barry-xlovecam]

I have been dieting and wake up hungry in America --- does that count?

Humor aside, there are problems with hunger among impoverished people -- but there are remedies for most needy people -- USDA Foodstamps and food banks run by NGOs like churches and non-profit organizations.

The single person food stamp allocation is $230/mo that is enough to have reasonable nourishment here. Maybe, a good number of the survey respondents cannot afford the most costly of foods so they think they are *deprived*?

[ilnjscb]

Sad, but there are too many people.

[Smack dat]

Ah yes, Gallup. That reputable, well known and reliable stats company.

Gallup are wrong repeatedly. They poll wrong.

[RyuLion]

There are Food banks, and some churches give away food which you don't have to apply.
http://journeycommunitychurch.com/foodbank/

[Steve Rupe]

Originally Posted by RyuLion

There are Food banks, and some churches give away food which you don't have to apply.
http://journeycommunitychurch.com/foodbank/

I think virtually every town in America has an org/orgs giving away food to anyone that wants it. There is an abundance of free food in America.

[Bladewire]

Originally Posted by Steve Rupe

I think virtually every town in America has an org/orgs giving away food to anyone that wants it. There is an abundance of free food in America.

Not in the South, according to OP's map

[Steve Rupe]

Originally Posted by Bladewire

Not in the South, according to OP's map

I have traveled tru out the South and the South is very generous with food banks, churches and other orgs that give out free food. The problem with charts, stats, etc. is they can be made to say whatever the presenter's agenda is and there are alot of agenda's out in the crazy world of the internet and public.

I have little confidence in such things and prefer to rely on my own lying eyes or hearing it with my own lying ears.

[Bladewire]

Originally Posted by Steve Rupe

I have traveled tru out the South and the South is very generous with food banks, churches and other orgs that give out free food. The problem with charts, stats, etc. is they can be made to say whatever the presenter's agenda is and there are alot of agenda's out in the crazy world of the internet and public.

I have little confidence in such things and prefer to rely on my own lying eyes or hearing it with my own lying ears.

Ok cool so now you're the expert on Southern food banks and church free food giveaways too good for you

You need to expand your mind and think about how poor people with limited resources can travel long distances to get "free food". Transportation costs money.

And before you say you know the South is littered with free food delivery services, it's not.

[ilnjscb]

Originally Posted by Bladewire

Ok cool so now you're the expert on Southern food banks and church free food giveaways too good for you

You need to expand your mind and think about how poor people with limited resources can travel long distances to get "free food". Transportation costs money.

And before you say you know the South is littered with free food delivery services, it's not.

We disagree sometimes but he is correct on this

[Steve Rupe]

Originally Posted by Bladewire

Ok cool so now you're the expert on Southern food banks and church free food giveaways too good for you

You need to expand your mind and think about how poor people with limited resources can travel long distances to get "free food". Transportation costs money.

And before you say you know the South is littered with free food delivery services, it's not.

I am an expert on what my own lying eyes has seen and my own lying ears have heard. Period.

[Bladewire]

Originally Posted by Steve Rupe

I am an expert on what my own lying eyes has seen and my own lying ears have heard. Period.

You believe your eyes and ears that are lying to you. Got it.

[HairyChick]

The post makes it sound like we're all suffering. One-third of the USA is overweight. That's from food, not some catchy disease.

Sure, the South has poor areas, but rich areas have them, too. You just don't hear bout it. Kids say they don't get enough to eat? Because they want MickeyD's, not real food. Sugary cereal for breakfast but mom says no, so they skip and buy candy instead. Dinner of chicken and veggies? No, kid wants fatty hot dogs and fries. Kid doesn't eat.

Watch some women with food stamps shop. Shrimp, steak, brand-name soda and cookies, gallons of ice cream, frozen food, and a lot of deli roast beef. No veggies, no fruits, no low-salt deli meats, no hamburger meat, no chicken unless fried frozen.

End of the month, kid doesn't find much food around

We had a neighbor who bought light and white canned tuna. White for her and hubby, light generic for kids. "I'm not spending money for good tuna for them (8 & 10). They don't know the difference. We work for it, they don't." My mom would rant for days how unfair it was, and invited the kids over for white tuna on rye bread or challah, not crappy white bread. She'd say the tuna was from the supermarket but maybe your parents don't know the brand.

They moved away after two years.

[brassmonkey]

well donate some of that evil money muther fuker

[Matt 26z]

Most kids have access to free breakfast and lunch at school.

But if you want to talk about the price of food, you can blame the import tariffs placed on sugar and environmental regulations for gas containing ethanol. Because sugar is too expensive, they extract the ethanol from corn. This puts a higher demand on corn, driving up the cost of food.

They need to import sugar for ethanol production, bringing down the value of corn.

[Paul Markham]

Originally Posted by Steve Rupe

What crap. Anyone hungry in the US it is by choice or in the case of children it is by the choices made by their parents.

Did you see the film?

Decent jobs are disappearing by the hour to be replaced by minimum wage jobs or no jobs.

[Paul Markham]

Originally Posted by beerptrol

Republicans only care when they are still in the womb and they can dictate to a women what they can or cannot do. Fuck them once they are born

Then why didn't the Democrats change it? Both sides are corrupted, congress donates $40 billion every year to rich corporate farmers. On a program that came in after the depression and was designed to aid small family farmers.

[Paul Markham]

Originally Posted by Barry-xlovecam

So, what is your solution Paul? Give everyone free food and shelter? Nice thought but who would pay for it all? The tooth fairy?

My solution is to reduce the number of people in the US and EU. So labour is valued more. The base of the problem is over the last 40 years jobs have left the US in droves, by Globalisation and Automation. To have millions crossing your borders illegally only makes a bad situation worse. Unless you're a big employer.

Who donates the most to elections, the ordinary man on the street or big employers?

Free food and shelter are a fools answer.

[Paul Markham]

Originally Posted by Bladewire

Paul Markham posts a thread about starving minority children in America to push the racist agenda. Another day on the new GFY

Paul your map of food insecurity shows the most food insecure states are the racist Southern states the worst being Mississippi and Alabama.

Why do the most racist states care the least about feeding the children of America? That should be your question Paul, according to your map.

So it doesn't matter if it only effects the Black Americans?

Watch the film and see the effects on all Americans.

[Paul Markham]

Originally Posted by ilnjscb

Sad, but there are too many people.

That's the base of the problem. It's getting worse, not enough decent paying jobs to go around.

[Paul Markham]

Originally Posted by Steve Rupe

I have traveled tru out the South and the South is very generous with food banks, churches and other orgs that give out free food. The problem with charts, stats, etc. is they can be made to say whatever the presenter's agenda is and there are alot of agenda's out in the crazy world of the internet and public.

I have little confidence in such things and prefer to rely on my own lying eyes or hearing it with my own lying ears.

So the Government creates a situation which isn't good and private charities should solve it. How much do you donate to food banks?

That's to all the people with the same post about private charities solving the situation.

[Paul Markham]

The non-partisan Congressional Research Service has estimated the 10-year revenue loss from extending the 2001 and 2003 tax cuts beyond 2010 at $2.9 trillion, with an additional $606 billion in debt service costs (interest), for a combined total of $3.5 trillion.

No wonder the rich give so much to the Democrats and Republicans.

[Paul Markham]

Originally Posted by PamWinterReturns

The post makes it sound like we're all suffering. One-third of the USA is overweight. That's from food, not some catchy disease.

Sure, the South has poor areas, but rich areas have them, too. You just don't hear bout it. Kids say they don't get enough to eat? Because they want MickeyD's, not real food. Sugary cereal for breakfast but mom says no, so they skip and buy candy instead. Dinner of chicken and veggies? No, kid wants fatty hot dogs and fries. Kid doesn't eat.

Watch some women with food stamps shop. Shrimp, steak, brand-name soda and cookies, gallons of ice cream, frozen food, and a lot of deli roast beef. No veggies, no fruits, no low-salt deli meats, no hamburger meat, no chicken unless fried frozen.

End of the month, kid doesn't find much food around

We had a neighbor who bought light and white canned tuna. White for her and hubby, light generic for kids. "I'm not spending money for good tuna for them (8 & 10). They don't know the difference. We work for it, they don't." My mom would rant for days how unfair it was, and invited the kids over for white tuna on rye bread or challah, not crappy white bread. She'd say the tuna was from the supermarket but maybe your parents don't know the brand.

They moved away after two years.

The film explains why. Processed food is cheaper than fresh food. Fresh Tuna, meat, veg are expensive compared to processed.

[Paul Markham]

As this situation gets worse in the West people like the Far Right have an easy job of getting votes. They have someone to lay the blame on. While the real culprits are politicians.

Remember everyone here earns a living wage. Or better.

[Paul Markham]

There are three parts where population size directly relates to Government spending. Welfare, Healthcare and Education. In the UK you can add Housing Benefits and in the UK the Government subsidises business by giving the low paid welfare.





If the US had to stop all borrowing and run a balanced budget but kept the debt as high as it is now. You would all have to pay an extra $2,000 per person. In the UK the figure would be £1,000. That keeps it at the terrible situation it is now with no improvements.

That's the bill for buying cheap goods from overseas, automated factories, migration and not managing the population to the needs of the country. And it will only get worse.

Anyone over 60 can clearly remember better times. Those of you under 40 will see it slowly get worse, so remember I was right about your future. Unless you're one of the few who can keep pace with the rise in costs and can ignore those who can't.

[newB]

You might be interested in reading Ruby Payne's A Framework For Understanding Poverty. A very interesting read.

One of the salient points I remember concerned how impoverished people spend money, frequently spending it as fast as they made it. The deep-seated emotional reasoning behind that mindset was that if you had already spent it, nobody could take it from you. And unfortunately, internal emotional values almost always trump the external rational.

As a side note, poverty is not necessarily restricted to financial poverty, and I think it is safe to say quite a few here are impoverished to one degree or another.