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California secessionists think their path to independence is easier than Catalonia?s
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If you asked me about this four years ago I would have laughed at you. Now.... I might just support this.
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WITH California he lost 40/60 )or 38/62) in terms of popular vote or so, so without Cali it would be worse and to still win, pretty special circumstances |
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Isn't that was Republicans have been saying since the election? BTW Clinton won the popular vote in both his elections. |
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Secondly: you raise a great point of once again exposing libby double standard - they did not cry that Clinton won "unfair" with 38% like they do with Trump with 48%. |
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In 1992 Bill Clinton won with 44 million (43%) votes to George Sr's 40 million (37%) and in 1996 he won with 47 million (49%) against Dole's 39 million (41%). But don't let facts get in your way. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United...election,_1992 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United...election,_1996 . |
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We aren't going anywhere; only dumb shits think it is a good idea or that it can happen.
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In 1992: Clinton - 43.01% of the vote Bush - 37.45% of the vote Perot - 18.91% of the vote In 1996: Clinton - 49.2% of the vote Dole - 40.7% of the vote Perot - 8.4% There was no crying about Clinton not winning the majority of the popular vote because he did. It's not a unique case. Since 1960 there have been 5 Democrats and 6 Republicans (counting Trump) elected President. JFK lost California and still won easily. Clinton, Obama, and Johnson all won with big enough margins they could have given the Republicans Cali and still won. 4 out of 5 is not a special case. |
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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United...election,_2016 Hillary Clinton 65,853,516 votes Donald Trump 62,984,825 votes . |
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A wise person said boundaries change after every 70 years. I think it's time.
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Very well could be. Go look at the electoral college map for the 1960 election. It is almost a reverse of today. JFK, the Democrat, won Texas and many southern states along with NY and the Northeast while Nixon won California, Oregon and the West. Pretty wild how things turn.
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The civil war was fought over sucession. I wonder if it?d happen again
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Why would California want to split from the US?
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Nixon was a Senator from California and his home and the where he grew up was Wittier, CA. He was a favorite son candidate that carried his home state.
Trump was born and raised in New York City and lost the state of New York to the transplanted former Senator Hillary Clinton -- that speaks for itself. California is the 6th largest economy in the world (supposedly) if it were a separate nation Paul. California give more than it gets as a state in the union You like charts; |
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They think they will be better off since they give more than they take. They think they will be better off if they could govern themselves like they like instead of listening from DC. |
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US States are not like nation states in the EU with dominant ethnicity that is (or was) homogeneous. That is to say: that Americans in New York State do not consider the people in Alabama to be *racially* or *ethnically* inferior. American populaces are sorted by wealth mainly with racism added. A black or brown person might encounter the same discrimination in any state.
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The article compares it to Catalan being part of Spain. Ps: nice how you managed to insert racism here as well |
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