you can do both. update and be static.

The best way to make sure if something works in SEO is to is to test it yourself. It takes time but it works for long term! That's why I only applied positive tested SEO techniques to my sites as well as my clients' ;)

Yes I believe in this SEO shit cause I've been doing it for more then 5 years and made a boatload of money from it :1orglaugh

About the "gaussian equal distribution law" ... it is possible that if surfers can't get the results they want they may just head back to the tubes and search from within them.

For example, if a surfer searches for an adult term and is taken to a mainstream site over and over again, or to only a limited number of adults sites then he likely won't be satisfied with his result, give up (because nobody likes to look around for what they want as it gets frustrating) and just go back to the sites he usually visits which could be interpreted by google as the surfer being satisfied with the domain he clicked on but really he's given up.

IMO, SEO is being big, Time on Site and backlinks.

I guess that is what is happening. They use tubes or they start at sites like FB and Tumblr to search for whatever they are looking for. Search Engines don't have the influence they used to have, but they still send quality traffic.

Even during better days Google traffic from page 2 or 3 represented solid quality because people who were willing to dig that deep into serps were more likely potential customers thant those clicking on the first item.

great and i ignore it for 21 years and also live not too bad :-)

but that does not mean that i do not believe that there ARE indeed things what need to be done to get a good ranking. but for that i do not need SEO wiseness.

these so called "better google days" have been in fact the days when google did not know nothing about a user and users HAD to go to later pages.

now 98% of all search results are individualized and based on the data Google knows about a user.

That means they can find what they search usually faster (exception proving the rule).
and that leads to much less traffic on the later listings and much more on the top listings.

Google today is much more than a search engine and used by many people as a browser.

sooo many people do not even know what the url bar in a browser is. the type simply Free Porn Videos - HD Porno Tube & XXX Sex Videos | YouPorn into google and do not see any search results but end up directly on the page (as long Your browser is deprecated. Please upgrade. - YouTube is not blocked in an index - than the user find alternatives).

to understand google and it´s tactic you do not have to think like a webmaster - you have to know how the majority of billions of users act.
and only those are interesting for Google and they make their rules only based on their behavior.

loool - if you want to make less money - try it - many (part-time) webmasters are doing it this way and wonder why they can not live from traffic what went through 20 hands.

the better ads coalition is something what i personally like (as long as it comes out as i expect) because it creates an acceptable standard for ads and THIS STANDARD will be the kick in the ass for adblockers.

pessimism or yesterday solutions will not bring you anywhere.

when the wind of change blows some building walls - others windmills !

So you ignore most of what is written on SEOMoz and sites like that?

Do you believe in backlinks because people still buy and tubes especially.

Some of our publishers are still doing pretty nice with Google traffic.

https://monosnap.com/file/FJ1dz6XCOG...ZZ9ugA3LEb.png

I get a ton

there was a time when i was reading it but got bored from so much nonsense.

look this trafficdrop what we are talking about i saw already in september and found reason and solution MONTH before the SEO portals where even mention it.

i do not believe that a backlink is good just because it is there.
i even believe that a backlink CAN be negative if you don´t use your brain.

but i have actually a few test sites with (smaller) keys ranking in top position and this site do not have backlinks at all.

links are not an indicator for google. they are just a hint and a possibility for google follow the user flow.
and if users do not click on them there will not be any effect (or a negative effect for the site who set it because it shows only that there is content what is irrelevant for the users there). if they click and use the site the effect will be good and if they click and close the page it is a bad link.

all that i need to know for that is what google told me to do (because I hope that we can agree that google will not be so stupid to tell you the opposite of what you should do) and analytics plus understanding it.
with a deep look into analytics you are even able to tell weeks before with what key and what subside your page will rank soon.

sorry that´s not my network ;-)

Thanks for that response.

I look at analytics all the time and try to increase traffic from the sources that have low bounce rates. But as for looking deeply and predicting algo changes, I'm not sure how to go about that.

i assume that your problem is that you look overall.
but google does not rate domains. every single page of your website has an own value or not.

instead looking at the domain level you should have a look on single pages and what happens there.

even a site what has no other use as to make a click there have already some reason for a user and was helpful to bring him to his target.

pages with high bounce rates are not good. because either they have nothing what can attract a user or the users cam there with a wrong assumption (wrong link text) and close the site.

so how your domain will stand in google is the sum of how good all single subsites are standing.

if you hare i.e a subsite where users coming in and follow a link there to "sexy christmas trees" and the page "sexy christmas trees" is used (or even clicked a link there) - you can be sure that this pages will be shortly under "sexy christmas trees" in the top rankings.

as more top ranking subsites you have as more trustful will be your domain and even an internal link on a new subpage will help massively more as a dotzend external links.

so what many people forget when they speak about "trustful links" is that you can give them by yourself when you take an eye on what i told you and look that all your subpages have value.

if there is a subpage what will not work with no change you can make - than make this page "noindex, follow"
but keep the bad reputation of this page away from your domain.

sure there are a lot more little tricks and things you can do but if you just do what i say and be patient (because google needs long because they will not believe you but test it sometimes and you will not know to who or when your page will appear for a minute in the serps) you will see a HUGE change.

and the best of all - you do not need any halfwise SEO - because all that is logic. it is the one and only way how google can prevent to be tricked out.
the good old idea of PR and TR is too easy to fraud - that´s why they do not have weight in google´s algo anymore.

Google is still not perfect in that and there are still blackhat methods what are working for a while - but if you look longterm you are on the sunny side with this strategy.

imagine since internet exist nobody gave a shit on users. pornsites where happy when they where found with the key "summer shoes". but it does not make sense.
it is creating traffic what will not convert at the end.

so everybody was just looking for "traffic" and did not ask if that users will find what they searched for. SEO was killed by them who made it. and now SEO is just another penis enlargement biz. (many believe in it but it does not help).

It is a genius piece of spyware. The government could have never done it better. Not even in North Korea.

80% of this list its owned by same person

I'll drop this here for people who haven't seen it.

(TL;DR they keep blacklists, like Brin's ancestors in Russia did)

https://www.scribd.com/document/3686...Action-Lawsuit

Good luck to all goys fighting the red terror. We shall take back the web :pimp

You assumed correctly. Thanks for the explanation. I see now how important BOTH external and internal links are within the context you described. External are fine but specificity is key.

can we change that ? NO !
do we benefit from that? - YES!
can we use it for us ? - YES

so what ?

C'mon Thommy, you're shilling too hard for them now.

Are there any posters here who aren't incentivized?



(happy 61st btw)

i am not shilling for nobody and nothing.
i just analyze the status quo and try to make the best from it.
anything wrong with that?

(thanks for congrats)

An observation, because some people in this thread are missing the obvious.

There's 10 positions on the first page of the SERPS for most keyword searches and potentially thousands, or hundreds of thousands of pages competing for them.

Another observation, static versus dynamic pages, there's no difference in Google's eyes. Pages don't rank better because they are static. Page speed is a ranking factor, but not the most important one.

i am not missing the obvious - at least not from what i can see here
if you show me the results you see and the search term you used i am more clear of what you might mean.

I'm not sure what you're asking. I didn't do a Google search to know that static vs dynamic pages are not treated differently, I also didn't do a Google search to know that page speed is a ranking factor.

aha and because you did NOT DO IT you know ?
because you wrote::


you make me confused....

I know from testing, I know because I have studied Google's practices extensively over a long period of time while developing my own search technology.

I also read. In 2008 Google made it clear about Static vs Dynamic pages. They have not changed this advice.

The only benefit a static page would have, if that page does not dynamically load resources because it's pure HTML, is one of page speed. Obviously a plain HTML file will load quicker when served direct from the web server, as opposed to being generated on the fly by a CMS. However page speed is not the only ranking factor when it comes to generating SERPS.

https://moz.com/blog/dynamic-urls-vs...is-still-clear

https://webmasters.googleblog.com/20...atic-urls.html

hmmm did you ever think about CONTENT ???

for what can it be good to list a site what have other contents and links tomorrow.
this is same as you print a telephone book and the numbers change every day.

and the article you have mentioned here is 10 years old - so you had 10 years time to read this part in it:

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now imagine that even links in a website are part of their content.

what do you think happens to a static video page when the links there are changing permanently (related content i.e). will this be the SAME page ?

why do you think that you see most of all these new crawlers with category pages as first page and not with dynamic content?

WHY do you think that you see in deeper (but not sharp) searches category pages instead of the mainpage?

even the big tubes who have dynamic content on their startpages have MOSTLY a static category navigation (and THIS is why they rank there and not the dynamic content).

you see - all SEO bullshit and glass ball predictions with no fundamental prove- that´s why i do not believe in it and look it from the logic position and find the proves.

Static vs Dynamic pages has nothing to do with content.

Maybe this is an issue with nomenclature. When people talk about static pages, they usually refer to pages that are pure HTML files which are not generated programmatically.

Perhaps when you refer to static pages you're talking about pages which never change?

If not, then you're not explaining yourself very well.

I think this static idea has been a little confusing but I see both sides.

AdultKing - When I think of "static" I also think of pure HTML pages.

Thommy - I think that when you are referring to a "static" page you mean one that has static content and static links, meaning they never change on that page, but whether or not the page is html or dynamic php is irrelevant. In this way Google wants to know, I'm assuming, that they can rely on this page to maintain the exact same content ( but allowing dynamic ads, scripts etc..) so that they can send surfers there and know it will deliver consistent results for them.

1. Static or Dynamic pages have little to no effect on ranking.
2. Page Rank is no longer public but is still a major ranking factor.

that´s exactly what i mean.

btw you can make dynamic pages with html pages also - you just have to tell it your server.

but i am talking about CONTENT what is there and will be there tomorrow too - because if not it would not make sense for google to list them.

only exception here are newspages what are categorized and know in google (they are also crawled much more and the results show up nearly in realtime) . but even there is have mostly a static content page what will be available for ever with the same content and on the same URL.
wordpress and all this other amateur CMS systems what are building sites randomly (what means with random content and/or links) brought the problems and there are still 99,9% webmasters out there believing that this is something good.

IF someone KNOWS already that google is trying to understand content by ALL content what is on a page (including links and related contents) HOW can the same person NOT think that changing this content is a mistake?

as i earlier explained google even values a page with a link what is useful (means clicked and used) why should such a page be stable when the link changes every day?

to understand google it does also not make sense to follow the showing links as cou see them and try to understand them. if you click on google´s cache version you will notice that google saw something else (what can be a result of geotargeting of the website or language targeting or even a changed content).

so you will never really understand why google did this or that as long as you do not see what google saw.

these are just a few small things to know - no magic - just logic.

Since you seem to understand Google so well, tell me, what do you understand from this result in top 10 for "free porn movies" in German:

Kostenlose pornofilme
Kostenlose pornofilme
1 · 2 · 3 · 4 · 5 · 6 · 7 · 8 · 9 · 10 · 11 · 12 · 13 · 14 · 15 · 16 · 17 · 18 · 19 · 20 · 21 · 22 · 23 · 24 · 25 · 26 · 27 · 28 · 29 · 30 · 31 · 32 · 33 · 34 · 35 · 36 · 37 · 38 · 39 · 40 · 41 · 42 · 43 · 44 · 45 · 46 · 47 · 48 · 49 · 50 · 51 · 52 · 53 · 54 · 55 · 56 · 57 · 58 · 59 · 60 · 61 · 62 · 63 · 64 · 65 · 66 · 67 · 68 · 69 · 70 · 71 · 72 · 73 · 74 · 75 · 76 · 77 · 78 · 79 ...

Where is the meta description?? This is exactly how it looks in Google. I wonder what surfers understand from such.

Also, second page:

Suchergebnis auf Amazon.de für: kostenlose pornofilme sex ...
https://www.amazon.de/kostenlose-por...?...n%3A186606...
Online-Shopping mit großer Auswahl im Bücher Shop.

yes i was talking about CONTENT and i can not see any big reason for dynamic as long as you do not want to show different users different things or running a shop.
in the last case you should be VERY familiar in "googles structured data-markup" because without that there would be TONNS of missunderstandings

but even than you are ALWAYS nailed on what you show the google bot. only what google sees is what google can show.

This shit is spamming all possible keywords and it does great in Google:

https://anybunny.mobi

Alexa rank is 238 and 93% organic traffic!! Where do you think the traffic comes from? From honest webmasters that get fucked daily by a huge amount of spammers.

So then you wonder, what for to work for unique titles, unique content if spammers build 100 sites and take all traffic with no penalty? Then I better join the same game...

that is quite easy to explain.

first of all this is a .de domain (i will explain later what is the problem with it)

the search "kostenlose pornofilme" is an "unsharp search"

what you told google is that you want porn movies and they should not cost money.

you did NOT tell google what kind of porn movies you are searching. you did not tell the niche or a specific film you are searching.

so what can google do in that case ?

google will send the user to a page where he can find THE MOST varity of what fits with his search.

on this page you can either define this search by the STATIC navigation (what will never change and a user can still always refine his search with that) and a little dynamic content what is not the reason why the user got lead there.

IF that would be the case all his subsites would also be listet by google but they are not
(even when they are index,follow)

on site search site:ra-sex.de you will see that ONLY the first sites are always listed because the content is ignored and the navigation is duplicated content AND dynamically changing (so not reliable).

the CONTENT sites of this page are horror optimized because the unique content there is the smallest part of the site. related links are dynamic and navigation is DC.
to find subpages in the results of that webpage you need 100% fitting 4-5 phrase searches.

so this page have only chance to be listed with unsharp keys - and it will not be there for long because ONE of the advantages why this domain IS listed is the .de.
sure google would prefer to show a .de domain in the google.de index (what is for sure a special bonus because there are no pornsites with .de).

but believe me that this page will get chilling effects VERY soon and will be banned from googles de-index. in other indexes a .de domain does not have a chance to rank and with a .com ending also not because there are much better optimized pages around.

if that site copies contents you can complain to google.

we do that 5-6 times per week and the spammers get always out after a few days.

spamming and stealing is not only a problem for all of us - also google hates it.

there are some techniques what can help to prevent it but the main problem are the affiliate programs and networks who accept those idiots.

But in the end this is not about chilling effects but about Google's own faulty algorithm. What if 9 more such sites have same thing like ra-sex.de.

They would all rank on first page with same meta description? I have monitored such keys for a long time and that site was never there. Suddenly appeared, like many other non sense appearing in top results. In my opinion, current Google's algo has huge flaws. Hopefully it's on purpose for a better algo to come.

Complaining go Google seems in vain. I reported many many spammers, very obvious ones and no action was taken, they still rank fine.

as i explained it it is NOT faulty - google showed you what you searched for (and this side is not even in the tops)

also depend on HOW you search on google.de and from WHERE you do it.

if you are searching on a country version of google, than google will always try to show you pages from this country.

so this PLUS the (im shure accident) static on the first pages leads to what you see.

but relaying to your search term i can not see that google did anything wrong.
you will see also on the results above that the rules i told you are even better realized and this is the reason why they are above.