People from NY - which part of Bronx is (or used to be) a slum?

[Paul&John]

Hi!

So in movies from the 80s/90s Bronx was usually referred to as a ghetto/slum/'shitty area where you don't want to live', is it still the same? I was checking google streetview and I do see a lot of nice cars (Mercedes, BMW..) so I guess not all of it is, or it isn't anymore...

Also why is the electric wiring above the ground like in India? Example: https://goo.gl/maps/JbnLTddEPUF2

Thanks.

[King Mark]

The entire southern portion. That's where I was raised. It was rehabbed in the 90s (graffiti removal, burned and abandoned buildings renovated, vacant lots filled with cheap mcbuildings, etc) and now gentrification is taking hold. Very few areas look slightly similar to the craziness of the 70s, 80s & early 90s. Totally different world now. It was literally a concrete jungle when I was a kid. You could go on adventures just traveling through all the burnt out buildings, hopping roofs, playing hide and seek through the labyrinths of the basements and courtyards and shit. Now you'll get a trespassing charge for setting off a roof alarm lol. Cameras everywhere, NYPD turned it into a police state.

Much safer now, much more boring tho. Still the murder capital of NYC, but relatively safe for a poor city in america unless you're in the mix of certain people. Generally, if you stay away from the bad elements these days, you'll be left alone.

There are certain rare blocks that were fixed up cosmetically but remain war zones. Webster Avenue between 183rd street and 188th street is one of those blocks. You DO NOT want to live there unless you want to witness murder, drug and mayhem.

The Bronx is the poorest congressional district in America, with astronomical rent prices. Last part of ny that gentrification could start in, that's how shitty the bronx is lol. So those cars you see 9.9 times out of 10 belong to a drug dealer, scammer, jack boy etc. Ain't no decent jobs in the bronx, at all. Almost everybody is involved with crime in one way or another just to survive.

[DBS.US]

Got any Google map street view location links?

[Paul&John]

Interesting, thanks.. btw check my streeview link https://goo.gl/maps/JbnLTddEPUF2 most of the cars are nice new ones, I guess thats a better part of Bronx?

[King Mark]

Originally Posted by Paul&John

Interesting, thanks.. btw check my streeview link https://goo.gl/maps/JbnLTddEPUF2 most of the cars are nice new ones, I guess thats a better part of Bronx?

Yeah that Morris park area. North bronx area that remained white during white flight. Italian and Albanian mafia area.

[King Mark]

https://goo.gl/maps/LKftbxU6yRM2

[Paul&John]

Interesting thats like 12miles from lower Manhattan, the subway goes there too.. that shouldn't be a problem in case you find a job there, no?

[King Mark]

Lol.....

[nico-t]

Originally Posted by Paul&John

Also why is the electric wiring above the ground like in India? Example: https://goo.gl/maps/JbnLTddEPUF2

This is indeed interesting. Only 3rd world countries have wiring above the ground like this, so why do they have it?

[onwebcam]

Originally Posted by nico-t

This is indeed interesting. Only 3rd world countries have wiring above the ground like this, so why do they have it?

I've been railing about this locally for some time. Most of the US is this way. They claim it would be too expensive to bury the lines but while they are saying it they are standing next to google spending their own money digging up the same paths throughout the entire city to lay fiber. There was actually a big fight between google and the electric/phone/cable companies over the use of the poles so google had to go underground for most. They almost walked away over it all. None of the idiots involved suggested working together to bury it all underground. Now we have google fiber and the regular opportunity of not having power after a storm.

This is part of our infrastructure problem. Our representatives have been more interested in making sure other countries infrastructures are living in the present while our own is in the past.

[Paul&John]

Originally Posted by Dead Eye

Lol.....

Care to explain?

[slapass]

Last year I went to the little Italy in the Bronx. It was amazing. But it is just a few square blocks.

[King Mark]

Originally Posted by Paul&John

Care to explain?

Hipsters, yuppies, gentrification, trust funds, high rent, etc. NYC is fucked. That's why I moved away.

[Tdash]

Originally Posted by nico-t

This is indeed interesting. Only 3rd world countries have wiring above the ground like this, so why do they have it?

Not true. There are lots of places in richer countries with overhead power lines.

[OneHungLo]

Originally Posted by Dead Eye

Hipsters, yuppies, gentrification, trust funds, high rent, etc. NYC is fucked. That's why I moved away.

What's wrong with gentrification?

[King Mark]

Originally Posted by OneHungLo

What's wrong with gentrification?

Doesn't address the real issues the way it's being done in ny.

There's a reason the mayor is looking into charging landlords a vacancy tax now.

[Bladewire]

Originally Posted by nico-t

This is indeed interesting. Only 3rd world countries have wiring above the ground like this, so why do they have it?

You really do hate America

[Bladewire]

Originally Posted by onwebcam

I've been railing about this locally for some time. Most of the US is this way.

Why are you lying Russian fake nic troll?

I haven't seen overhead powerlines since coming back to America 9 years ago.

[King Mark]

Bronx = poorest congressional district in America bro. Power lines are still mostly above ground and full of sneakers thrown on them. Not a big deal, unless you're a Russian troll trying to reach for a situation.

[Sly]

Originally Posted by onwebcam

I've been railing about this locally for some time. Most of the US is this way. They claim it would be too expensive to bury the lines but while they are saying it they are standing next to google spending their own money digging up the same paths throughout the entire city to lay fiber. There was actually a big fight between google and the electric/phone/cable companies over the use of the poles so google had to go underground for most. They almost walked away over it all. None of the idiots involved suggested working together to bury it all underground. Now we have google fiber and the regular opportunity of not having power after a storm.

This is part of our infrastructure problem. Our representatives have been more interested in making sure other countries infrastructures are living in the present while our own is in the past.

Google is not paying for everything themselves. They piggyback on city projects to minimize the expense. Example: city needs to redo XYZ lines, Google jumps in and it's a joint project.

Government subsidies in a roundabout way.

Fortune 500 companies do not pay for shit unless they have to. This is why they are Fortune 500 companies.

[Paul&John]

Originally Posted by Dead Eye

Hipsters, yuppies, gentrification, trust funds, high rent, etc. NYC is fucked. That's why I moved away.

Hipsters etc are one thing, but you mentioned that there are no jobs in Bronx, however as far as I can see Manhattan (which I guess is a place with shitloads of jobs - but dunno really, maybe its all white collar only so not for everyone) isn't far away even with public transportation (30-60minutes) so in that case that shouldn't be an issue.

[OneHungLo]

Originally Posted by Bladewire

You really do hate America

^^Wilders had it right.

[The Porn Nerd]

If you are thinking The Bronx to live then reconsider Washington Heights. That's where I live, the area is gentrifying but still mostly Hispanic with families. The Bronx is only six blocks away. Subway is a block away and 20 minutes from Times Square. And the best part? Rent controlled!

I've lived in NYC for 30 years, just in Manhattan and Brooklyn tho I had girlfriends in Queens and The Bronx so know those places, too. (Stay the fuck AWAY from Staten island tho, nothing but freaks out there.) Where I live now is quiet, calm, affordable, close to the heart of the city and close to my house in NJ so it's perfect. Sure there are drug dealers but it's on the down low as they say. Mostly you see families everywhere.

Parts of Queens can be cool too, and Brooklyn of course but Bklyn is getting expensive too (especially closer to Manhattan) and the further you go out the worse it gets.

So I would pick Washington Heights (which I did), then Queens, then The Bronx.

PS: You see nice cars and SUVs in a bad neighborhood and that's called "stealth wealth". It's where the drug dealers put their money. Everyone in the family gets a 100K SUV, even 90 year old granny. LOL

[spads]

Originally Posted by nico-t

This is indeed interesting. Only 3rd world countries have wiring above the ground like this, so why do they have it?

So Israel, Canada, Spain, and Portugal are third world countries? All of these have wiring above ground.

[Rochard]

NY has changed so much.... I used to live in Brooklyn - Bay Ridge - and it seems like everything has changed in Brooklyn.

[Paul&John]

Originally Posted by The Porn Nerd

If you are thinking The Bronx to live

Hehe that's absolutely not the case, I just remember referring to it as to a slum in old movies and got me interested what's the situation ATM..

[onwebcam]

Originally Posted by Bladewire

Why are you lying Russian fake nic troll?

I haven't seen overhead powerlines since coming back to America 9 years ago.

You don't venture far away from that apartment complex much then.

Originally Posted by Sly

Google is not paying for everything themselves. They piggyback on city projects to minimize the expense. Example: city needs to redo XYZ lines, Google jumps in and it's a joint project.

Government subsidies in a roundabout way.

Fortune 500 companies do not pay for shit unless they have to. This is why they are Fortune 500 companies.

They may be getting something (tax break or whatever) in return but this is 100% google fiber going in and that's it. Most of the fiber lines here were put in via a local some years ago and he leased all the lines to everyone else including the government. Puerto Rico's 911 service was actually ran out of his DC here in Nashville some years ago but not sure if it still is.

[money biz]

Every where is decent in ny. NJ on the other hand has hoods you dont want to run out of gas in.

[candyflip]

Just spent a week going to Yankee games while staying in an AirBnB a block from the stadium. Walked around day and night, and like always...we had no trouble.

Even ordered some weed and edibles and had it delivered...from Craigslist.

[HairyChick]

Originally Posted by nico-t

This is indeed interesting. Only 3rd world countries have wiring above the ground like this, so why do they have it?

Say what?? Around here, southerneastern Massachusetts, most cities, towns and villages have outside wiring. High winds and power goes out. During Hurricane Gloria, I believe, we had no power for five days. Stores closed but giving away perishable food, restaurants with generators overcrowded and wires and poles blocking roads.

I remember the Blizzard of ‘78, 42” of snow. My father drive home from work in an hour usually but it took seven hours. As he pulled into the driveway I went out the side door to help and the snow almost was up to my nose. The wires began arcing, sparks running the length from pole to pole. Dad gave me a shove to get into the house fast.

(My neighbor wasn’t the brightest bulb. 26 and newly married, she ran out to her porch and was screaming “the martians are landing.” My mother tried calling to assure her it wasn’t martians but the outside phone lines were down. We just sat there and laughed for hours. She truly thought it was an alien invasion 😂😂😂😂😂).

[King Mark]

Originally Posted by Paul&John

Hipsters etc are one thing, but you mentioned that there are no jobs in Bronx, however as far as I can see Manhattan (which I guess is a place with shitloads of jobs - but dunno really, maybe its all white collar only so not for everyone) isn't far away even with public transportation (30-60minutes) so in that case that shouldn't be an issue.

Long story short, most bronx residents are not qualified for Manhattan jobs unless its washing dishes, food service, janitorial, delivery service, door man etc. All stuff that won't let you afford living without selling drugs or robbing somebody for supplemental income lol.

[King Mark]

Originally Posted by The Porn Nerd

If you are thinking The Bronx to live then reconsider Washington Heights. That's where I live, the area is gentrifying but still mostly Hispanic with families. The Bronx is only six blocks away. Subway is a block away and 20 minutes from Times Square. And the best part? Rent controlled!

I've lived in NYC for 30 years, just in Manhattan and Brooklyn tho I had girlfriends in Queens and The Bronx so know those places, too. (Stay the fuck AWAY from Staten island tho, nothing but freaks out there.) Where I live now is quiet, calm, affordable, close to the heart of the city and close to my house in NJ so it's perfect. Sure there are drug dealers but it's on the down low as they say. Mostly you see families everywhere.

Parts of Queens can be cool too, and Brooklyn of course but Bklyn is getting expensive too (especially closer to Manhattan) and the further you go out the worse it gets.

So I would pick Washington Heights (which I did), then Queens, then The Bronx.

PS: You see nice cars and SUVs in a bad neighborhood and that's called "stealth wealth". It's where the drug dealers put their money. Everyone in the family gets a 100K SUV, even 90 year old granny. LOL

Washington heights is excellent for party favors. Though they're migrating to the west bronx now lol.

[INever]

Yeah, start spreading the news.
But on the other coast I could do business without being pre-judged about my hair.

[The Porn Nerd]

Originally Posted by Dead Eye

Washington heights is excellent for party favors. Though they're migrating to the west bronx now lol.

This weekend Governor Cuomo suggested he may make marijuana legal, mostly because New Jersey is considering it and it's already legal in Mass. and Washington DC.

WooHoo coffee shops in Manhattan baby!!!!!

[INever]

Originally Posted by The Porn Nerd

This weekend Governor Cuomo suggested he may make marijuana legal, mostly because New Jersey is considering it and it's already legal in Mass. and Washington DC.

WooHoo coffee shops in Manhattan baby!!!!!

20 years behind California.

[RandyRandy]

I'm originally from Jersey City but I've been in NYC since 1983 (except for 3 years in S.A., 2 years in Europe and 3 years in Asia.). I've lived in all five boros. All have their good/bad points and are constantly changing.

I've been in Morris Park, Bronx since 2009 (though I was in Asia 3 of those years). Awesome neighborhood and not what you think of when you think of 80s "movie theater" Bronx. Old school Italian neighborhood, great shops and restaurants. I know and greet all my neighbors. I know my pharmacist and my butcher on a first name basis. Wouldn't think of living anywhere else in NYC right now.

Even the South Bronx is coming up. Calling it SoBo. I go to the Bronx Brewery there at least once a month.

And Hunts Point is way nicer than before.

But the stereotype lives on...

[Jim_Gunn]

My grandparents and parents were from the Bronx and lived there their whole lives until the mid 1970s. I vaguely recall my grandfather commuting to downtown Manhattan every morning to go to work before he retired. I remember seeing the burnt out and rubble filled buildings as far as the eye could see from the Cross Bronx Expressway in the 70's when I lived there as a child. We moved to the suburbs of New Jersey by the time I went to grammar school, but it really was a different world back then from how it is now.