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Old 04-23-2018, 03:23 PM   #1
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Trump lied to FBI.. that is criminal...

Trump lied about not staying overnight in Moscow during the 2013 beauty pageant. His plane landed on Friday and did not leave until Sunday, meaning he doesn't leave and spent 2 nights in Moscow the same time the dossier says he had his Russian hooker fun and games..

The kicker is he lied directly to Comey about this who was still the FBI director at the time. That means Trump lied to the FBI during a investigation which is a federal crime...


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Seems legit. His plane flew back with no one on board. He waited around to hitch a ride from a friend.
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Seems legit. His plane flew back with no one on board. He waited around to hitch a ride from a friend.
Oh so you think he stayed in Moscow longer.... I think your excuse generator is broken like your brain...
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Seems legit. His plane flew back with no one on board. He waited around to hitch a ride from a friend.
He caught a ride back on the Golden Shower express flight aka Golden Eye Flight
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Seems legit. His plane flew back with no one on board. He waited around to hitch a ride from a friend.
Trump has no friends, scrotum boy.


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I think there is a huge difference between making a comment to the director of the FBI and lying to investigators during an official line of questioning.

It's stunning that people - anyone - can lie about something when it's so easy to verify it's true. Even more so when the entire world is watching. Trump claims he wasn't in Moscow long enough for the "pee tape" to happen - He flew in Sunday morning and left Sunday night. However, we can document most of his trip. We know when his plan landed and when it took off, and most of what happened between then. We know what restaurants he ate at - Nobu Moscow.

Why is he obviously lying about this?

And please don't tell me he is a germaphobe. He was banging pornstars.
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I think there is a huge difference between making a comment to the director of the FBI and lying to investigators during an official line of questioning.

It's stunning that people - anyone - can lie about something when it's so easy to verify it's true. Even more so when the entire world is watching. Trump claims he wasn't in Moscow long enough for the "pee tape" to happen - He flew in Sunday morning and left Sunday night. However, we can document most of his trip. We know when his plan landed and when it took off, and most of what happened between then. We know what restaurants he ate at - Nobu Moscow.

Why is he obviously lying about this?

And please don't tell me he is a germaphobe. He was banging pornstars.
Even your little narrative is completely fabricated.

His friend's plane left in the wee hours of Sunday morning.

The article claims they honestly don't know when his plane arrived and it also states his plane left when he said it did.

Supposedly his plane was flying all over the place without him on board.. It flew from NC where he was to NY without him on board just so he could hop on his friends plane to make this scenario work. Then his plane heads to Russia for no reason because apparently no one was on board only to wait around and fly back empty again.

Makes zero sense except to stupid people.
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I think there is a huge difference between making a comment to the director of the FBI and lying to investigators during an official line of questioning.

It's stunning that people - anyone - can lie about something when it's so easy to verify it's true. Even more so when the entire world is watching. Trump claims he wasn't in Moscow long enough for the "pee tape" to happen - He flew in Sunday morning and left Sunday night. However, we can document most of his trip. We know when his plan landed and when it took off, and most of what happened between then. We know what restaurants he ate at - Nobu Moscow.

Why is he obviously lying about this?

And please don't tell me he is a germaphobe. He was banging pornstars.
He lies because the dumb dumbs like onwebcam will believe it. The gullible believe anything he says because Trump is their orange messiah..
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Even your little narrative is completely fabricated.

His friend's plane left in the wee hours of Sunday morning.

The article claims they honestly don't know when his plane arrived and it also states his plane left when he said it did.

Supposedly his plane was flying all over the place without him on board.. It flew from NC where he was to NY without him on board just so he could hop on his friends plane to make this scenario work. Then his plane heads to Russia for no reason because apparently no one was on board only to wait around and fly back empty again.

Makes zero sense except to stupid people.
Just look at how far oanewebcam will go to make excuses for him.. The only people who do this kind of shit are cult fanatics and relgious nuts.. Sane people dont act like this...
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Even your little narrative is completely fabricated.

His friend's plane left in the wee hours of Sunday morning.

The article claims they honestly don't know when his plane arrived and it also states his plane left when he said it did.

Supposedly his plane was flying all over the place without him on board.. It flew from NC where he was to NY without him on board just so he could hop on his friends plane to make this scenario work. Then his plane heads to Russia for no reason because apparently no one was on board only to wait around and fly back empty again. Makes zero sense except to stupid people.
The plane Trump traveled on was tail number N443PR. The plane took off from the US on Thursday, landed in Moscow on Friday. We know this for a fact. Nobu Moscow showed pictures of Trump having dinner at their restaurant Friday night.

Trump claims he never spent the night in Moscow, but the truth is we have proof he spent two nights in Moscow. He lied about spending the night in Moscow.

He claims he hasn't pissed on hookers and the only proof he offers is that he didn't spend the night in Moscow. But he did spend the night in Moscow. Two nights to be exact.
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Just look at how far oanewebcam will go to make excuses for him.. The only people who do this kind of shit are cult fanatics and relgious nuts.. Sane people dont act like this...
Your a goddamn moron who can't 2+2 together.
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He is Trump in Moscow on Friday, November 8th, 2013....



You can do a search for it.... https://www.facebook.com/search/top/...cow%20Agalarov
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He is Trump in Moscow on Friday, November 8th, 2013....



You can do a search for it.... https://www.facebook.com/search/top/...cow%20Agalarov
Congratulations, you proved he was there when he said he was.

And here's the end of the fake news story. They claim he was in Moscow on Saturday because of this tweet. Notice the tweet says "I'm in Moscow tonight" and the tweet is at 5:47AM on Saturday morning.. Obviously the idiots putting the story together don't know about time zones and server times....

https://twitter.com/realdonaldtrump/...71340042661889

12 hours later he posts this "I just got back from Russia"

https://twitter.com/realdonaldtrump/...29261684490240

Being very stupid people. Or people with an agenda (most likely) They likely read those tweets and said Saturday? I thought he was there on Friday? Then found a stupid scenario as to how he could have done it. And even idiots who are supposedly webmasters fell for it.

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The plane Trump traveled on was tail number N443PR. The plane took off from the US on Thursday, landed in Moscow on Friday. We know this for a fact. Nobu Moscow showed pictures of Trump having dinner at their restaurant Friday night.

Trump claims he never spent the night in Moscow, but the truth is we have proof he spent two nights in Moscow. He lied about spending the night in Moscow.

He claims he hasn't pissed on hookers and the only proof he offers is that he didn't spend the night in Moscow. But he did spend the night in Moscow. Two nights to be exact.
That plane is his friends plane. The one that bloomberg claims he needed to be on to put him there on Saturday because they are too stupid to figure out time zones and server times. His plane was just flying all of the places he would have went without him because it doesn't make this scenario work.
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Congratulations, you proved he was there when he said he was.
No, I proved he was in Moscow when he said he wasn't. He said he was in Moscow on Saturday only. The plane he took landed on Friday, and on Friday he went to dinner at Nobu Moscow.

Trump claims he was not in Moscow "over night" yet he was there for forty-eight hours.
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No, I proved he was in Moscow when he said he wasn't. He said he was in Moscow on Saturday only. The plane he took landed on Friday, and on Friday he went to dinner at Nobu Moscow.

Trump claims he was not in Moscow "over night" yet he was there for forty-eight hours.
No he claims he was there on Friday. This fake news story claims he was there on Saturday because of these tweets. Actually they extend his stay into Sunday even though his friends plane supposedly left around 2 in the morning Sunday. How he made his "I just got back" tweet 6:44PM Sat if he left 2AM Sunday with his friend is beyond me. He must have a time machine.
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Even your little narrative is completely fabricated.

His friend's plane left in the wee hours of Sunday morning.

The article claims they honestly don't know when his plane arrived and it also states his plane left when he said it did.

Supposedly his plane was flying all over the place without him on board.. It flew from NC where he was to NY without him on board just so he could hop on his friends plane to make this scenario work. Then his plane heads to Russia for no reason because apparently no one was on board only to wait around and fly back empty again.

Makes zero sense except to stupid people.
Stupid Russian troll pretending to be American everyday to spread hate to compensate for his sad life. Pathetic little cunt
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No he claims he was there on Friday. This fake news story claims he was there on Saturday because of these tweets. Actually they extend his stay into Sunday even though his friends plane supposedly left around 2 in the morning Sunday. How he made his "I just got back" tweet 6:44PM Sat if he left 2AM Sunday with his friend is beyond me. He must have a time machine.
If you were better trolling , or even logical, you'd be bearable, but you literally just say any fucking thing knowing you're full of shit and thinking others will fall for it... Putin should get whatever money he paid for you back
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They've been editing the article all day long. Total bullshit

https://theconservativetreehouse.com...g-travel-fail/
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I think there is a huge difference between making a comment to the director of the FBI and lying to investigators during an official line of questioning.

It's stunning that people - anyone - can lie about something when it's so easy to verify it's true. Even more so when the entire world is watching. Trump claims he wasn't in Moscow long enough for the "pee tape" to happen - He flew in Sunday morning and left Sunday night. However, we can document most of his trip. We know when his plan landed and when it took off, and most of what happened between then. We know what restaurants he ate at - Nobu Moscow.

Why is he obviously lying about this?

And please don't tell me he is a germaphobe. He was banging pornstars.

This is the guy you're talking about, and his pushers ( Russian internet trolls pretending to be Americans ) and his fanboys ( poorly educated lazy racists & xenophobes ) will spew his shit no matter what.

Luckily Trump is not above the law and no matter what he does now he's in too deep, too many facts are out there, too many too close to him have flipped, too many tentacles are wrapped around him too tight and he's fighting for air now. So desperate. Live watching him go down like this
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I think there is a huge difference between making a comment to the director of the FBI and lying to investigators during an official line of questioning.
Trump hasn't been officially interviewed. None of you has any power*, sadly (or maybe not sadly), or you'd know that in DC you talk to FBI and CIA people all the time. What you say to them doesn't matter unless it is in the context of an official interview.

They can be witnesses if someone asks what you said, but they are witnesses as private citizens, and their credibility can be impeached. Further, as hearsay, their evidence won't hold much weight unless it is corroborated by more credible evidence.

If, and only if, this bizarre, useless line of speculation becomes relevant, it will be very easy to determine where he was and when.

*unless Rochard makes it to the city council
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Your a goddamn moron who can't 2+2 together.
Right.... i suppose it was all a big conspiracy by the secret govt to make Trump look bad by having the FAA change the flight logs... because we all know Trump always tells the truth...

See you are just like the Jesus nutters. You cant ever acknowledge something isn't right in the bible because then everything collapses and falls apart if you do. Just like you can't ever accept the fact Trump has lied to you or everything he says falls apart, so you continue to accept his lies despite overwhelming proof to believe in your fairytale...
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Right.... i suppose it was all a big conspiracy by the secret govt to make Trump look bad by having the FAA change the flight logs... because we all know Trump always tells the truth...

See you are just like the Jesus nutters. You cant ever acknowledge something isn't right in the bible because then everything collapses and falls apart if you do. Just like you can't ever accept the fact Trump has lied to you or everything he says falls apart, so you continue to accept his lies despite overwhelming proof to believe in your fairytale...
You're a moron. No flight logs support this story. They support his. His plane did just as it was suppose to do. His friends plane did something else. And he couldn't have been on that plane because it left around 2AM Sun morning and the twitter timestamp which is hours ahead proves that because he couldn't have been at the pageant at 6:44AM Sat morning. His other tweet he posted he returned Sat evening which was actually early Sat morning.

They actually proved he was there when he said but then tossed in this "friends plane" theory counting on ignorant fucks like you not to be able to piece it together.

BTW I've never even read one page of the bible or any other religious mythology.
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Since you brought it up.... I run one of the two local FB groups for my hometown here and because I love selfies everyone knows who I am... Every time I go out here in town someone will walk up to me and introduce themselves to me. It's very strange. People want me to make a run at the city council.... In my hometown, the people on the city council rotate being mayor for a year so if you get on the city council you become mayor. The only thing stopping me is the fact I've worked in porn.
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LOL. This is the same bodyguard that testified Trump did in fact land on Friday, and left on Sunday.....

"Schiller was confident nothing happened between Trump and any women that night after he went to sleep. The pair was also aware Moscow hotel rooms are sometimes subjected to video surveillance by Russian intelligence."
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Wow. His bodyguard says he turned them down, so it must be true.
He testified under oath. There's no evidence it isn't true.

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You're a moron. No flight logs support this story. They support his. His plane did just as it was suppose to do. His friends plane did something else. And he couldn't have been on that plane because it left around 2AM Sun morning and the twitter timestamp which is hours ahead proves that because he couldn't have been at the pageant at 6:44AM Sat morning. His other tweet he posted he returned Sat evening which was actually early Sat morning.

They actually proved he was there when he said but then tossed in this "friends plane" theory counting on ignorant fucks like you not to be able to piece it together.

BTW I've never even read one page of the bible or any other religious mythology.
Hey dilweed.. The host of the pagent show has come out to say that "yes" Trump did stay the night in Moscow...

So now what is your excuses? Everyone's lying but Trump?

Just admit you have been taken as the fool.. You just look dumber and dumber when you just won't accept the facts..

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^^^ The Daily Beast!! LOLOLOLOLOL!!!!!

Chelsea Clinton sits on the board of directors. Not biased at all!!

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^^^ The Daily Beast!! LOLOLOLOLOL!!!!!

Chelsea Clinton sits on the board of directors. Not biased at all!!

Says the dipshit who links to biased sites all the time

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Guys,

You cannot be this dumb. Holy fuck please break the cycle already.

The only winner is the one that makes concessions. Allow them the sickness all on their own, without the need to disagree.

Turn off this board and plug into the universe. We've all been living in a myopic bubble.

Make base concessions that we all can agree on, and build on top of that.

Crockwire, it's never going to happen mate. Look how industrious you can be. Go apply that elsewhere.

For fucking shame.
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too bad democrats have absolutely nothing positive to say anymore. no vision for the future. no plans. no ideas. nothing people can rally behind except bitterness and hate.

that is the common thread
that is the recurring theme

that is all we hear about. you're losing your own base to an orange haired buffoon and rather than taking a step back, taking a breath and pulling your head out of your asses, you just keep pointing the finger and calling anyone who doesn't think like you "racist" or "xenephobe" or "heartless". you can't even tolerate ideas or beliefs different than your own anymore. anyone that says something you don't want to hear gets shouted down in the most vicious manner possible.

you've blinded yourself to the fact that your own behavior and rhetoric is now putting yourself firmly in the minority and voters are rejecting your immaturity full stop.

in the meantime, Trumps ratings climb because of you and you're behavior. economy is speeding along. stock market is booming. NK is on their knees. China is on their knees. jobs are growing at an unreal pace. jobs are coming back into the US. democrats are now even losing the black vote to Trump which is a bit surreal... and probably the most telling fact of all.

all of you fucking idiots have not said one good thing about the nation or its future since obama has left office. the truth is, you don't care. you've exposed yourselfs to being the naive, spoiled, self centered children that you are. throwing a year long temper tantrum because you didn't get what you wanted. in that time, you've just clung to anger and bitterness, name calling and whining and you just can't see that you're long time girlfriend, the liberal media has been driving you off a cliff. they told you for 8 years that Obama could do no wrong which made you feel great about yourself, today they're telling you that Trump can do no right, which validates your anger. they've even turned murderous gangbangers and cop killers into victems and you've still went along with it. you backed a white guy pretending to be black who created a movement sparked by an event where a black thug tried to murder a cop.. and even made him a victim.

it's pathetic.

it's not pathetic that you have different views than i do. it's pathetic that you can no longer think for yourselves.

Trump won. to me, that was astonishing.

YOUR PRIOR BEHAVIOR put a reality tv star in the White House.

YOUR CURRENT BEHAVIOR will keep him there for 8 years.

You said he wouldn't run.
You said he couldn't get the nomination.
You said he couldn't win.
You said he'll be impeached.... no matter how many times 15 intelligence agencies tell you he did not collude with Russia

The list goes on and on and on and on. you've never been right about a single fucking thing. more and more democrats are walking away from you.

your response? more tantrums. more name calling. more ranting and raving like 12 year old lunatics.

why not just take a step back, clear your head and start focusing on a positive future rather than ranting and raving all day long, every day about something you can't change? you fucking morons are hell bent on impeachment and destroying the country itself just because you got it wrong and didn't get what you wanted. its sad. it is a behavior which will never be a catalyst for positive change.

I grew up with dems controlling the house and senate. thanks to millineals and self entitled little shits who grew up demanding participation trophies rather than earning things through hard work... it will not happen again in my lifetime.

it's totally insane to me that you turds simply refuse to see how the ground has shifted under your feet and that democrats are now politically becoming the red headed step child. and it's all because of your insane, self entitled, "if i can't have it, no one can have it" attitude.

fuck, even Kanye West - you know "George Bush hates black people" is turning blacks and the black vote against you.
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That's exactly what I said.



Since you brought it up.... I run one of the two local FB groups for my hometown here and because I love selfies everyone knows who I am... Every time I go out here in town someone will walk up to me and introduce themselves to me. It's very strange. People want me to make a run at the city council.... In my hometown, the people on the city council rotate being mayor for a year so if you get on the city council you become mayor. The only thing stopping me is the fact I've worked in porn.
You sound like the guy to know. Mayors can do a lot more than people think.
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It might be illegal to lie to the FBI in casual conversation, but this might be considered another attempt at obstruction of justice.
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Since you brought it up.... I run one of the two local FB groups for my hometown here and because I love selfies everyone knows who I am... Every time I go out here in town someone will walk up to me and introduce themselves to me. It's very strange. People want me to make a run at the city council.... In my hometown, the people on the city council rotate being mayor for a year so if you get on the city council you become mayor. The only thing stopping me is the fact I've worked in porn.
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too bad democrats have absolutely nothing positive to say anymore. no vision for the future. no plans. no ideas. nothing people can rally behind except bitterness and hate.

that is the common thread
that is the recurring theme

that is all we hear about. you're losing your own base to an orange haired buffoon and rather than taking a step back, taking a breath and pulling your head out of your asses, you just keep pointing the finger and calling anyone who doesn't think like you "racist" or "xenephobe" or "heartless". you can't even tolerate ideas or beliefs different than your own anymore. anyone that says something you don't want to hear gets shouted down in the most vicious manner possible.

you've blinded yourself to the fact that your own behavior and rhetoric is now putting yourself firmly in the minority and voters are rejecting your immaturity full stop.

in the meantime, Trumps ratings climb because of you and you're behavior. economy is speeding along. stock market is booming. NK is on their knees. China is on their knees. jobs are growing at an unreal pace. jobs are coming back into the US. democrats are now even losing the black vote to Trump which is a bit surreal... and probably the most telling fact of all.

all of you fucking idiots have not said one good thing about the nation or its future since obama has left office. the truth is, you don't care. you've exposed yourselfs to being the naive, spoiled, self centered children that you are. throwing a year long temper tantrum because you didn't get what you wanted. in that time, you've just clung to anger and bitterness, name calling and whining and you just can't see that you're long time girlfriend, the liberal media has been driving you off a cliff. they told you for 8 years that Obama could do no wrong which made you feel great about yourself, today they're telling you that Trump can do no right, which validates your anger. they've even turned murderous gangbangers and cop killers into victems and you've still went along with it. you backed a white guy pretending to be black who created a movement sparked by an event where a black thug tried to murder a cop.. and even made him a victim.

it's pathetic.

it's not pathetic that you have different views than i do. it's pathetic that you can no longer think for yourselves.

Trump won. to me, that was astonishing.

YOUR PRIOR BEHAVIOR put a reality tv star in the White House.

YOUR CURRENT BEHAVIOR will keep him there for 8 years.

You said he wouldn't run.
You said he couldn't get the nomination.
You said he couldn't win.
You said he'll be impeached.... no matter how many times 15 intelligence agencies tell you he did not collude with Russia

The list goes on and on and on and on. you've never been right about a single fucking thing. more and more democrats are walking away from you.

your response? more tantrums. more name calling. more ranting and raving like 12 year old lunatics.

why not just take a step back, clear your head and start focusing on a positive future rather than ranting and raving all day long, every day about something you can't change? you fucking morons are hell bent on impeachment and destroying the country itself just because you got it wrong and didn't get what you wanted. its sad. it is a behavior which will never be a catalyst for positive change.

I grew up with dems controlling the house and senate. thanks to millineals and self entitled little shits who grew up demanding participation trophies rather than earning things through hard work... it will not happen again in my lifetime.

it's totally insane to me that you turds simply refuse to see how the ground has shifted under your feet and that democrats are now politically becoming the red headed step child. and it's all because of your insane, self entitled, "if i can't have it, no one can have it" attitude.

fuck, even Kanye West - you know "George Bush hates black people" is turning blacks and the black vote against you.
Hey look! It's common sense.

What are you doing here?

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too bad democrats have absolutely nothing positive to say anymore. no vision for the future. no plans. no ideas. nothing people can rally behind except bitterness and hate.

that is the common thread
that is the recurring theme

that is all we hear about. you're losing your own base to an orange haired buffoon and rather than taking a step back, taking a breath and pulling your head out of your asses, you just keep pointing the finger and calling anyone who doesn't think like you "racist" or "xenephobe" or "heartless". you can't even tolerate ideas or beliefs different than your own anymore. anyone that says something you don't want to hear gets shouted down in the most vicious manner possible.

you've blinded yourself to the fact that your own behavior and rhetoric is now putting yourself firmly in the minority and voters are rejecting your immaturity full stop.

in the meantime, Trumps ratings climb because of you and you're behavior. economy is speeding along. stock market is booming. NK is on their knees. China is on their knees. jobs are growing at an unreal pace. jobs are coming back into the US. democrats are now even losing the black vote to Trump which is a bit surreal... and probably the most telling fact of all.

all of you fucking idiots have not said one good thing about the nation or its future since obama has left office. the truth is, you don't care. you've exposed yourselfs to being the naive, spoiled, self centered children that you are. throwing a year long temper tantrum because you didn't get what you wanted. in that time, you've just clung to anger and bitterness, name calling and whining and you just can't see that you're long time girlfriend, the liberal media has been driving you off a cliff. they told you for 8 years that Obama could do no wrong which made you feel great about yourself, today they're telling you that Trump can do no right, which validates your anger. they've even turned murderous gangbangers and cop killers into victems and you've still went along with it. you backed a white guy pretending to be black who created a movement sparked by an event where a black thug tried to murder a cop.. and even made him a victim.

it's pathetic.

it's not pathetic that you have different views than i do. it's pathetic that you can no longer think for yourselves.

Trump won. to me, that was astonishing.

YOUR PRIOR BEHAVIOR put a reality tv star in the White House.

YOUR CURRENT BEHAVIOR will keep him there for 8 years.

You said he wouldn't run.
You said he couldn't get the nomination.
You said he couldn't win.
You said he'll be impeached.... no matter how many times 15 intelligence agencies tell you he did not collude with Russia

The list goes on and on and on and on. you've never been right about a single fucking thing. more and more democrats are walking away from you.

your response? more tantrums. more name calling. more ranting and raving like 12 year old lunatics.

why not just take a step back, clear your head and start focusing on a positive future rather than ranting and raving all day long, every day about something you can't change? you fucking morons are hell bent on impeachment and destroying the country itself just because you got it wrong and didn't get what you wanted. its sad. it is a behavior which will never be a catalyst for positive change.

I grew up with dems controlling the house and senate. thanks to millineals and self entitled little shits who grew up demanding participation trophies rather than earning things through hard work... it will not happen again in my lifetime.

it's totally insane to me that you turds simply refuse to see how the ground has shifted under your feet and that democrats are now politically becoming the red headed step child. and it's all because of your insane, self entitled, "if i can't have it, no one can have it" attitude.

fuck, even Kanye West - you know "George Bush hates black people" is turning blacks and the black vote against you.
Um common sense you say? It appears you don't have much in that department because you seem to claim there is already a verdict on collusion.. The only thing that has been stated is Trump wasn't a "target" at the moment..

That can and could have already changed. Trump not being a target at that point in time gives no conclusions to guilty or innocent just that the investigation was not focusing on him at that moment.

It's very obvious the investigation is working its way up from the bottom to the top of the food chain. That's how Rico cases work...

You are a fool of you think common sense tells you he's not guilty..


Here is a verdict for you.. I felt he was a jack ass but I was willing to sit by and see how he did. But instead Trump started attacking our justice system, the media and has waged a all out assault on the EPA and FCC as well as countless out govt agencies.

There is no more chances to give the orange baboon.. He is a fool who needs to be removed from office as he's attempting to destroy our rule of law and checks and balances.

That will not happen..
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too bad democrats have absolutely nothing positive to say anymore. no vision for the future. no plans. no ideas.
You're so wrapped up in your own ideological bubble that you don't see the blue wave and Democrats killing it in every special election this last year.

Facts kill your dogma, makes sense you have none in your wall of text diarrhea of a diatribe.
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You sound like the guy to know. Mayors can do a lot more than people think.
I still maintain local politics is more important than national politics.

Right now our President is trying to get a new VA director nominated. Do you know what effect that has on me personally? None. None what so ever. The President of France here is, there is a lot of talk about Syria and Iran... Do know what effect any decision they make will have on me? None. Zero. Zilch. We can go to war with Iran in the morning, and other than the price of my gas going up (which is already happening right now here in California no matter what) it would have little effect on my life.

But the crappy road outside of my house that is tearing up my tires.... That has a huge impact on my life.

The fact that my local city government violated state law by raising the cost of my water bill and then blew the money and cannot return it... Well, that has an impact on my life.

The changes they are making to the freeway outside of our hometown.... HUGE impact on my life.
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I still maintain local politics is more important than national politics.

Right now our President is trying to get a new VA director nominated. Do you know what effect that has on me personally? None. None what so ever. The President of France here is, there is a lot of talk about Syria and Iran... Do know what effect any decision they make will have on me? None. Zero. Zilch. We can go to war with Iran in the morning, and other than the price of my gas going up (which is already happening right now here in California no matter what) it would have little effect on my life.

But the crappy road outside of my house that is tearing up my tires.... That has a huge impact on my life.

The fact that my local city government violated state law by raising the cost of my water bill and then blew the money and cannot return it... Well, that has an impact on my life.

The changes they are making to the freeway outside of our hometown.... HUGE impact on my life.

Aren't you former military? If so the director certainly will have a effect on you if you use VA services being Trump and Republicans are trying to privatize the VA.. You are gonna get fucked if they have their way..
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You're so wrapped up in your own ideological bubble that you don't see the blue wave and Democrats killing it in every special election this last year.

Facts kill your dogma, makes sense you have none in your wall of text diarrhea of a diatribe.
Yeah right. Democrats lost the House, the Senate, the White House and more state government positions since the fucking civil war.... but i'm the one who "doesn't get it".

Obviously there is going to be a slight correction with such a MASSIVE AND UNPRECEDENTED imbalance in state governments and the federal government.... since voters made the decision to vote you out of everything. that certainly doesn't explain how you guys lost it all to begin with and why you're still the minority in government.

All you guys can do is keep spewing hate and vitriol because it helps you avoid the deeper question of "what happened" and "how did it happen" and its that very problem that is going to keep you from winning the next Presidential election because you still have no clue what the average American values and what is important to them.

because of you angry, bitter, hateful and spiteful retards WITH NO VISION AND NO PLAN beyond crying and complaining and calling everyone racist and shouting anyone down who doesn't share your world view, we'll have 8 years of this fucking guy. this election was your wakeup call... people are tired of self entitled, crybaby pussies who such poor losers that even John McEnroe is shaking his head in disbelief and disgust.
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