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06-05-2018, 06:36 PM | #1 |
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Why can PornHub process Visa/MasterCard for ANYTHING?
I don't get it... Visa/Mastercard have all these strict rules for things that aren't allowed to distribute through your site including sex with drunk or sleeping people, violence etc, payment processors want permanent access to your member section so they can monitor this... why are these rules not applied for Pornhub? Search for "sleeping", "drunk", "slapping" etc
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06-05-2018, 06:37 PM | #2 |
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Because of safe harbor: How MasterCard and Visa Are Fueling $96 Million In Content Piracy…
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06-05-2018, 07:02 PM | #3 |
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User generated content, lol.
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06-05-2018, 07:41 PM | #4 |
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And oddly enough, it was ruled this year that a pirate site can screen content and still have safe harbor, which is contradictory.
So Pornhub screening illegal content, but not legal content against Visa regs, seems a possible liability for them |
06-05-2018, 07:44 PM | #5 |
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try making millions. money talks
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06-05-2018, 07:45 PM | #6 |
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06-05-2018, 07:51 PM | #7 |
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Visa/Mastercard could easily require tubes to screen for content against their regs with this new ruling that happened in March
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06-05-2018, 07:58 PM | #8 |
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they are not the police... they also have ads on youtube and many other big places. i don't get it. unless you are a content owner you are just venting nothing more.
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06-05-2018, 08:10 PM | #9 | |
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so they don't process for pornhub.com but for pornhubpremium.com and on that domain they block all the videos/search/keywords that are not allowed by the acquirers/visa/mc (and they also block all videos that are obviously copyrighted and not from their content partners) they also have this text to make it more compliant: PH PH Premium |
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06-05-2018, 10:30 PM | #11 |
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there is a german biller accepts visa/MC for shit scat movies
it depends where hosting/domains/content is located
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From what I know scat was never officially banned by Visa or Mastercard, just that most of the banks and processors don't want it. But it isn't specifically mentioned in their rules like CP rape and bestiality are: https://usa.visa.com/dam/VCOM/downlo...les-public.pdf Quote:
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06-05-2018, 11:37 PM | #14 |
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by paying huge kickbacks to their banks
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They filter out the stuff that is not allowed by the card schemes and (most) produced (non amateur) content that they don't have the rights for etc. |
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It makes sense, "legally" we could do the same for our own content... think of some new domains names, put "prohibited" bait content on there and send those who click to our main domains. Oh well the fun thing about user uploaded content is that we can upload content to Pornhub too, lately I see people uploading gay content and tagging it as straight, that must upset a lot of of the free skaters on there and not encouraging them to pull their credit cards :-) |
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06-06-2018, 10:22 AM | #21 |
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They just care about risk. Probably at large enough volume they allow custom ways to mitigate risk
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I think there's at least one biller in NL that is OK with scat. Possibly more.
Also totally fine to sell and process in Japan which may be the only country that has actual professional scat porn movies regularly made including drama titles complete with storylines.
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06-07-2018, 03:32 PM | #24 |
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How do you think all these fake pills process with Visa/Mastercard with 10%+ chargeback ratios?
They have bunch of merchant accounts, and keep going and going. Pornhub is pretty 'safe' and has a low chargeback ratio. That's what really matter.
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06-07-2018, 06:24 PM | #25 |
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I asked to reinstate my cc processing for a mainstream project I’m working on. They’d closed my account after a year of no usage. They went back ten years, saw I had adult but non-sexual processing, and said they’d need to see the site. It’s not built but they claim to need ftp access when done to be sure no adult content is there. I could store it elsewhere, of course, and give the link on sign up. But it’s mainstream only and they’re not taking chances.
I assumed the tubes processed overseas. All the pro scenes I’ve seen – and I’ve only visited a few times- link to the paysite.
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08-15-2018, 02:07 PM | #26 |
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PornHub now also shows scat content. Just search for "messy anal" etc. I still don't get it, as far as I know Epoch processes for PornHub and we had a clip with messy anal on our website they made a huge fuzz about it. But if someone uploads that same clip to PornHub then suddenly it's totally ok for Epoch. Does Epoch simply have a problem with honest people selling the content they actually own legally?
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They probably make more money on mega tube sites with all the stolen content then hundreds of legit content creators. Some day they'll come begging for our business when the law turns the tables on them. I've never been treated worse by a company when contacting them to do business years ago. |
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Ok, so I should check whether the messy anal content is also present in the premium part of the site. I will do that. Thanks.
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