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Old 06-17-2018, 06:49 AM   #1
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Trump is using kids as a human shield

I've been thinking about this whole kids situation at the border. I dont like illegal immigration and it irritates me at how many South Americans think it's their right to come here illegally with no regard to our laws.

I'm on the same page with many Republicans on that matter as I'm sure many other Democrats are also of the same mindset.

This taking kids from their parents and essentially holding them hostage is some Nazi fucking shit. Anyone who is supporting this shit is straight up a piece of shit.

Trump is using these kids as pawns or human shields in attempt to stop illegal immigration. That is something that America is not and strait up Nazi.

I hope more than anything Trump is taken down over this alone. He has gone straight up Nazi with this shit. You dont take kids away from their parents over a line in the sand.
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I've been thinking about this whole kids situation at the border. I dont like illegal immigration and it irritates me at how many South Americans think it's their right to come here illegally with no regard to our laws.

I'm on the same page with many Republicans in that matter as I'm sure many other Democrats are also of the same mindset.

This taking kids from their parents and essentially holding this hostage is some Naxi fucking shit. Anyone who is supporting this shit is straight up a piece of shit.

Trump is using these kids as pawns or human shields in attempt to stop illegal immigration. That is something that America is not and strait up Nazi.

I hope more than anything Trump is taken down over this alone. He has gone straight up Nazi with this shit. You dont take kids away from their parents over a line in the sand.
Anyone who makes comparisons to Nazis at this point of the game is mentally disturbed. You people are running out of complaints and now its "he's a nazi" again like 2 years ago totally pathetic

Why do you believe so much fake news? The Obama admin was the one separating the kids from their criminal, illegal parents at the border. All those pictures you see are from OBAMA. Was he a nazi? Who is holding anybody hostage? You break the law, you go to jail. Are Manafort and Cohen being held hostage, by your definition?

If you don't want to be separated from your fucking kids, then dont break the fucking law. We dont want you here, we dont want illegal immigrants. GO HOME GO AWAY stop coming here! If you have a kid and you rob a bank, then guess what? You get separated from your children. What is it with the liberal cuck mindset that they ALWAYS defend the criminals??

You know what's nazi like? Aborting millions and millions of kids per year...THATS nazism. Also, I love how all of this spawned out of a FAKE NEWS picture of a kid in a cage from the Obama years. Oh but now the libs care about families and children? LOL give me a break they hate the family unit it's their religion to break it up
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Also, I haven't heard one person make a single reasonable solution to separating children from their families. The law is, if you BREAK THE LAW you get separated from your children. What's your solution? Stop yelling "nazi" and "racist" and offer a goddamn solution
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Illegal immigration has always been a problem, and it will always be a program. People from around the world want to come to the United States for a better life.

However, the current administration is making this out to be something it isn't, and is going about it the wrong way. Illegal immigration peaked during the Obama administration, and the Obama administration deported more illegals than the Trump administration has. However, the Obama administration did this without arresting parents at schools or hospitals.

When law enforcement finds someone here illegally, arrest them. Great. However, do not expect my local police department to arrest them. It is not the job of my local police officer to enforce federal immigration laws - they just don't have the man power. My local police department has three - four officers on duty at any given time and we cannot spare two or three officers to handle federal immigration laws. The FBI doesn't have agents stationed here in town to hand over speeding tickets. If ICE wants to assign a full time office to my home town, great - every time our local officers pull over someone who here is here illegally they can call ICE to take them away.

What's happening right now with these kids are nothing short of horrible. Jeff Sessions is quoting the bible saying saying they must enforce the law, meanwhile Trump violates the bible every time he cheats on his wife. At the same time, they are blaming this on the Democrats which is not correct - Under Obama, parents were only removed from their parents when required which was very rare. The illegal immigrants aren't being sent to prison, the are being detained, and there is no reason why they cannot be detained with their children.
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Illegal immigration has always been a problem, and it will always be a program. People from around the world want to come to the United States for a better life.

However, the current administration is making this out to be something it isn't, and is going about it the wrong way. Illegal immigration peaked during the Obama administration, and the Obama administration deported more illegals than the Trump administration has. However, the Obama administration did this without arresting parents at schools or hospitals.

When law enforcement finds someone here illegally, arrest them. Great. However, do not expect my local police department to arrest them. It is not the job of my local police officer to enforce federal immigration laws - they just don't have the man power. My local police department has three - four officers on duty at any given time and we cannot spare two or three officers to handle federal immigration laws. The FBI doesn't have agents stationed here in town to hand over speeding tickets. If ICE wants to assign a full time office to my home town, great - every time our local officers pull over someone who here is here illegally they can call ICE to take them away.

What's happening right now with these kids are nothing short of horrible. Jeff Sessions is quoting the bible saying saying they must enforce the law, meanwhile Trump violates the bible every time he cheats on his wife. At the same time, they are blaming this on the Democrats which is not correct - Under Obama, parents were only removed from their parents when required which was very rare. The illegal immigrants aren't being sent to prison, the are being detained, and there is no reason why they cannot be detained with their children.
This is ALL fake news. The Obama admin arrested thousands upon thousands at churches, schools, hospitals, etc. If you're illegal, then you're ILLEGAL

The obama admin was the one who passed the fucking law separating the families, which they have no choice to do. The only reason this is in the news now is because someone posted a FAKE NEWS photo of a kid in a cage, which was from the OBAMA years and lied and said it was the Trump admin doing it.

Stop breaking the laws. Stop coming here. We don't want them. I feel zero sympathy for them. Stop defending criminals and come up with a damn solution then. Another liberal with no solution. Also when has Trump cheated on his wife?

I've now asked this over 1,000 times with no answer - WHAT IS YOUR SOLUTION?
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Chump and his supporters are the shit stains of this country
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This is ALL fake news. The Obama admin arrested thousands upon thousands at churches, schools, hospitals, etc. If you're illegal, then you're ILLEGAL

The obama admin was the one who passed the fucking law separating the families, which they have no choice to do. The only reason this is in the news now is because someone posted a FAKE NEWS photo of a kid in a cage, which was from the OBAMA years and lied and said it was the Trump admin doing it.

Stop breaking the laws. Stop coming here. We don't want them. I feel zero sympathy for them. Stop defending criminals and come up with a damn solution then. Another liberal with no solution. Also when has Trump cheated on his wife?

I've now asked this over 1,000 times with no answer - WHAT IS YOUR SOLUTION?
Chump sure knows about breaking the law(s)
He's a conman who needs to be arrested as well as his kids

So don't spout off about laws when the Liar In Chief breaks them and has broken them
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Chump sure knows about breaking the law(s)
He's a conman who needs to be arrested as well as his kids

So don't spout off about laws when the Liar In Chief breaks them and has broken them
Name a single crime Trump is guilty of. There are none.

Name a single con that he's pulled. There are none.

This is Obama's doing.

You delusional Leftists are so gullible.

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This will be looked back on as a very dark episode in our history. Stephen Miller (yes, this the asshole who is responsible for this evil) is traumatizing and creating long lasting psychological damage to kids because their parents are fleeing torture and the possibility of death. The US should be more compassionate.
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Imagine calling Trump "Hitler" meanwhile everyone in Israel absolutely loves the guy...making monuments and coins after him...unreal at this point in the game
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This will be looked back on as a very dark episode in our history. Stephen Miller (yes, this the asshole who is responsible for this evil) is traumatizing and creating long lasting psychological damage to kids because their parents are fleeing torture and the possibility of death. The US should be more compassionate.
They broke the law, nothing has changed. Don't break the law and you won't get "separated from your children"...and Trump has told the Democrats he is willing to negotiate something but they wont

PS we dont need any more people in this country, especially people who hate this country and vote socialist
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Name a single crime Trump is guilty of. There are none.

Name a single con that he's pulled. There are none.

This is Obama's doing.

You delusional Leftists are so gullible.

But but he didn't pay a contractor who didn't finish a job 30 years ago!
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I fixed that for you...
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The obama admin was the one who passed the fucking law separating the families, which they have no choice to do. The only reason this is in the news now is because someone posted a FAKE NEWS photo of a kid in a cage, which was from the OBAMA years and lied and said it was the Trump admin doing it.
OneDungLo, stop lying. I already proved your lies, now STFU


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OneDungLo, stop lying. I already proved your lies, now STFU


What does this have anything to do with anything
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If the democrats cared about the kids so much then why dont they work out a deal with Trump? who is more than willing to deal
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here, you worthless, fake virtue signaling pussies. Get involved in parentless children. You know... because you "care" right? It's "criminal" right. You guys are so fake with your constant feigned outrage and fake concern. What do you ACTUALLY do about these things you'd have others believe you hold so dear to your heart? Nothing. You just spend your hours letting others know how much you care.

Idiots.

Maybe you can start with the many 10s of millions of black kids who are growing up without a father? Wouldn't that make more sense than using a VERY FEW - FOREIGN CHILDREN as political "shields".

but but but "muh agenda!"

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here, you worthless, fake virtue signaling pussies. Get involved in parentless children. You know... because you "care" right? It's "criminal" right. You guys are so fake with your constant feigned outrage and fake concern. What do you ACTUALLY do about these things you'd have others believe you hold so dear to your heart? Nothing. You just spend your hours letting others know how much you care.

Idiots.

Maybe you can start with the many 10s of millions of black kids who are growing up without a father? Wouldn't that make more sense than using a VERY FEW - FOREIGN CHILDREN as political "shields".

but but but "muh agenda!"

fuckwits.

They don't care about the children at all. All it is is an attack on Trump...they could give two shits about families, nothing but empty virtue signaling
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But but but .... you guys "care so much!!!

Its all about the kids!!

"But, Muh Kids!"

You care.

They need your help.

What will you do??

Oh yeah... you'll just virtue signal your way on to the next topic while patting yourself on the back all the way and calling yourself "the good guy" as you do nothing at all about anything. THATS what you'll do. NOTHING.

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But but but .... you guys "care so much!!!

Its all about the kids!!

"But, Muh Kids!"

You care.

They need your help.

What will you do??

Oh yeah... you'll just virtue signal your way on to the next topic while patting yourself on the back all the way and calling yourself "the good guy" as you do nothing at all about anything. THATS what you'll do. NOTHING.

They DONT care...one of the pillars of liberals is to break up the family...they LOVE single parents

But it's time for these liberals to put up or shut up...
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These detainment centers for the children are 100x better than where they came from. They get free housing, free AC, free food, free education, etc...
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But but but .... you guys "care so much!!!

Its all about the kids!!

"But, Muh Kids!"

You care.

They need your help.

What will you do??

Oh yeah... you'll just virtue signal your way on to the next topic while patting yourself on the back all the way and calling yourself "the good guy" as you do nothing at all about anything. THATS what you'll do. NOTHING.

Idiot...
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Idiot...
More insult/name calling without any rebuttal

You lost
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I've been thinking about this whole kids situation at the border. I dont like illegal immigration and it irritates me at how many South Americans think it's their right to come here illegally with no regard to our laws.

I'm on the same page with many Republicans on that matter as I'm sure many other Democrats are also of the same mindset.

This taking kids from their parents and essentially holding them hostage is some Nazi fucking shit. Anyone who is supporting this shit is straight up a piece of shit.

Trump is using these kids as pawns or human shields in attempt to stop illegal immigration. That is something that America is not and strait up Nazi.

I hope more than anything Trump is taken down over this alone. He has gone straight up Nazi with this shit. You dont take kids away from their parents over a line in the sand.
The Republicans can beat the Democrats with this issue all day long. I am amazed he wants to solve it.

Edit: and yes this is an insane way to push it to a head.
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What does this have anything to do with anything
You are clueless or fake.
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Perhaps the illegals will think twice about attempting to cross our boarder into the US.
What don't you bleeding heart liberals understand about the words illegal ? Undocumented ?


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Blame these moron parents for breaking the law in the first place. We need tougher laws on the border imo
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Has anyone asked the kids in the “detention” centers if their current accommodations were better or worse than where they came from? These are asylum seeking refugees right? Their homes are filled with violence, starvation, and unsafe living conditions, right?
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All fake news and fake outrage.. These facilities were photographed by Breitbart back in 2014..

https://twitter.com/brandondarby/sta...00591914573824


Sorry folks you can't put kids in the same holding cell as adults..
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"Trump is using kids as a human shield"

or.... more appropriately titled

"Virtue signaling Leftists are using kids as political currency! Children helped so far? 0"
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All fake news and fake outrage.. These facilities were photographed by Breitbart back in 2014..

https://twitter.com/brandondarby/sta...00591914573824


Sorry folks you can't put kids in the same holding cell as adults..
Blame Obama 2020.. When your guy has nothing positive to run on it's back to blame Obama..
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"Trump is using kids as a human shield"

or.... more appropriately titled

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If there is nothing at all wrong with what Trump is having boarder agents do.. Why are they blocking US congressmen from looking at the facilities?
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Blame Obama 2020.. When your guy has nothing positive to run on it's back to blame Obama..
Who has nothing positive to run on??
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If there is nothing at all wrong with what Trump is having boarder agents do.. Why are they blocking US congressmen from looking at the facilities?
They have no right to look at the facilities. Just because you're a media member or congressman doesn't mean you're above the fucking law

Do you think that Trump is personally running each and every facility?
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Funny considering Obama spent 8 years saying "Nothing is my fault, blame Bush"
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If there is nothing at all wrong with what Trump is having boarder agents do.. Why are they blocking US congressmen from looking at the facilities?
What are you doing to help these kids you care so much about? Or anyone you claim to care about? Are you getting involved. Of course not. Your just here for a team sport and playing day in and day out from the "my team, right or wrong" playbook.

We get it, you suddenly care about kids. It's all about their welfare and doing the right thing because... you = good. Trump = bad.

You even imply with the thread title that Trump is holding up children to catch bullets. Thats what makes you the more reasonable party.

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What are you doing to help these kids you care so much about? Or anyone you claim to care about? Are you getting involved. Of course not. Your just here for a team sport and playing day in and day out from the "my team, right or wrong" playbook.
Obama was doing much much worse and no one batted an eye, even when Breitbart posted the pictures back in 2014

Now Trump, who has improved the situation, is "literally Hitler!" according to the left its unreal

They are not offering any help or any actual solutions or any negotations
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I find it rich that even now Planned Parenthood, of all demonic entities is trying to knock Trump about separating families...I mean what in the fuck?
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They are not offering any help or any actual solutions or any negotations
There is no currency to be gained or spent among peers by offering actual solutions and fighting for something important to their base. Their MO after being told for 8 years that they could do no wrong is "resist at any cost" since they suddenly didn't ge their way. Thats a great message for 18 year olds. Not a great message for actual voters.... you know, the ones who continue to vote them out of office across the nation.

Every issue is a chance to put forth a sensible, workable, practical solution where the Democratic base could "wow, why aren't we doing that?" and then pigeonhole the other side into acting and then take credit for it like politics used to work. Where the better ideas won... but do they do that? Nope. They just cry. Whine. Blame. Twist facts. Post lies and act like a bunch of uneducated, 18 year old revolutionaries in working with Fidel Castro.
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There is no currency to be gained or spent among peers by offering actual solutions and fighting for something important to their base. Their MO after being told for 8 years that they could do no wrong is "resist at any cost". A great message for 18 year olds. Not a great message for actual voters.... you know, the ones who continue to vote them out of office across the nation.

Every issue is a chance to put forth a sensible, workable, practical solution where the base could "wow, why aren't we doing that?"... but do they do that? Nope. Just cry. Whine. Blame. Twist facts. Post lies and act like a bunch of uneducated, 18 year old revolutionaries in working with Fidel Castro.
I've noticed that this is a big difference between liberals and conservative types

Personally, I WANT lower taxes. I don't want to pay the goddanm government so much, I want to keep more of my money so I am personally invested in it. I want less government control over my life in this regards. This directly affects me and I am all for it

For liberals, there seems to be some sort of weird virtue signaling. For instance, Michael Moore is a rich, white man. Yet all he does is rant on and on about how bad rich white men are. Ummm ?? Makes no sense

It seems like liberals always want to tell other people how to feel, think and act where as conservatives live the life that they actually want for others
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Obama was doing much much worse and no one batted an eye, even when Breitbart posted the pictures back in 2014

Now Trump, who has improved the situation, is "literally Hitler!" according to the left its unreal

They are not offering any help or any actual solutions or any negotations
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What does this have anything to do with what i posted? The title is misleading and makes no sense...they were separated under Obama...you dont keep kids in the same jail as adults, good god people grow up!

I agree with everything Stephen Miller says
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"Trump is using kids as a human shield"
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"Trump is using kids as a human shield"
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That doesn't even make sense
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That doesn't even make sense
irrational, unbridled rage rarely does.

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irrational, unbridled rage rarely does.

Planned Parenthood is going to teach you a lesson, mr trump!
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That doesn't even make sense
Because it's too deep for you to understand.. The idea behind taking kids from parents is to scare people from seeking asylum or asking for visa's.. Therefore taking kids from their parents is used as a human shield in place of a wall. A scare tactic because parents seeking visa's or asylum are now in fear of having their kids taken away..

You scumbags are OK with this, just like you'd be ok with gassing the jews in ww2.. You are scum..
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