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MO79 · 07-31-2018, 10:58 PM

Hi all, so I am thinking of buying adult content but keep thinking like, how easy is it for others to just illegally download my paid stuff and use it on some anonymous VPS in Russia or where ever.

How do you guys stand in this view and how can you protect your stuff, and can you still be profitable when buying content although it might get illegally used?

Thanks for your views.

kane · 07-31-2018, 11:03 PM

Sadly, there isn't a whole lot you can do other than DMCA if you see it on some site. Also, watermarking the content could help. At least then if it gets stolen you get some credit (unless they remove it, of course).

MO79 · 07-31-2018, 11:16 PM

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Originally Posted by kane

Sadly, there isn't a whole lot you can do other than DMCA if you see it on some site. Also, watermarking the content could help. At least then if it gets stolen you get some credit (unless they remove it, of course).

Thanks for your thoughts

yuu.design · 08-01-2018, 07:57 AM

is not something that can be solved easily , you have to take the risk about that

Busty2 · 08-01-2018, 08:20 AM

Its extremely difficult to stop people from using your © materials online or off.
You could use a tool like

https://www.copyscape.com/online-copyright-protection/

You could also use, from $99

https://www.trademarkengine.com/services/copyright-registration?gclid=EAIaIQobChMIz_ioz5LM3AIVCMNkCh1 z6AzjEAAYASAAEgJHNPD_BwE

But in almost 50 years of shooting porn i have yet to find anything that works 100%

pornlaw · 08-01-2018, 08:34 AM

Use a trademarked watermark, there is no safe harbor under trademark law...

https://adultbizlaw.com/2012/11/15/p...content-theft/

Busty2 · 08-01-2018, 08:44 AM

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Originally Posted by pornlaw

Use a trademarked watermark, there is no safe harbor under trademark law...

https://adultbizlaw.com/2012/11/15/p...content-theft/

Interesting, how well does this work for infringements that originate in Russia or China?

Busty2 · 08-01-2018, 10:04 AM

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Originally Posted by Busty2

Interesting, how well does this work for infringements that originate in Russia or China?

Anyone ?

iceboi · 08-01-2018, 10:09 AM

If you have video content, there's a few solutions that can prevent downloading of the files. One is to stream the files as m3u8 playlists or use a blob server but this will only protect streams.

If you allow video downloads to members then there's really no solution to prevent stealing.

If you don't allow downloads, then the only way they could steal your files(if you implement 1 of the solutions above) is by using a screen recorder.

pornlaw · 08-01-2018, 10:38 AM

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Originally Posted by Busty2

Interesting, how well does this work for infringements that originate in Russia or China?

Its a case by case situation. Are they monetizing the content? And with trademark, you can go after the hosts as well.

Louis Vuitton was awarded $10 million in trademark damages (vs $300,000 in copyright damages) against a host in SF...

https://law.justia.com/cases/federal...011-09-12.html

Contributory trademark infringement is much easier to prove up than contributory copyright infringement...

I havent seen a case vs a CC biller but Im sure it may be possible.

ZENRA · 08-01-2018, 01:23 PM

Assuming you're running/going to run a regular paysite, ensure that those with bad intentions do not ever get access.

The most basic thing to do in this regard is to ensure your processor has good fraud prevention rules in place.

NatalieK · 08-01-2018, 03:31 PM

if those will steal, will steal...

however, if you have a decent site, traffic, content & continue to update, you´ll not have to worry about the thieves as you´ll make your income.

Stick to your business and forget about the negatives!

Before thinking about thieves, I´d think hard about your business set up, what niche, which servers, payment providers & designers

TrashyContent · 08-01-2018, 04:47 PM

You could always buy from us... just saying

Sly · 08-01-2018, 04:51 PM

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Originally Posted by pornlaw

Use a trademarked watermark, there is no safe harbor under trademark law...

https://adultbizlaw.com/2012/11/15/p...content-theft/

Do you know of anyone that's actually done this? How does the government look upon it?

We recently had a service mark issued. Took about a year of going back-and-forth with a bureaucrat that gave zero fucks and wouldn't answer questions to the point where you could actually make their rules happy. Cost a pretty penny as well.

HairyChick · 08-01-2018, 05:51 PM

My own content was registered for legal reasons. I went after quite a few people and got paid my asking prices. Bought content was not my fight but I told the seller about my finds.

Burying your head in the sand is foolish. You spent the money to produce the content. Don’t allow others to profit off your back.

Used to digitally watermark my pictures and a service looked for them. It was $1000/yr and worked IF the thief didn’t change the name.

I didn’t bother to ask the webmasters. I’d notify the host and uplink providers. Most took action but one time I was ignored. The uplink host cut their link until content was removed. They moved the site and repeat. Repeat. Repeat. Yup, four hosts cut them.

Content was removed. You’ll need patience, smarts and balls. And good dDOS protection.

jsmih · 08-01-2018, 06:18 PM

I'd say it depends a bit on what your are doing. Pretending to be her in the video description ("watch me..") differs from something like pretending to be her in fan correspondence. I would see the second as a legitimate gripe on her part.

pornlaw · 08-01-2018, 06:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Sly

Do you know of anyone that's actually done this? How does the government look upon it?

We recently had a service mark issued. Took about a year of going back-and-forth with a bureaucrat that gave zero fucks and wouldn't answer questions to the point where you could actually make their rules happy. Cost a pretty penny as well.

I have filed dozens of trademarks, mostly for adult companies. Ive never had an issue with the US Trademark Office examining attorneys. Sometimes you get one that can be tough though.

Not sure what you mean by "a pretty penny" but no mark I have ever filed cost any of my clients more than $1750.00 (based on one class of goods/services).

MO79 · 08-02-2018, 08:05 AM

Sorry everyone for this late reaction, I didn't got a e-mail alert on updates. Thanks for all the replies.

So yeah, based on this, I'll go for watermarking and of course hunt the thieves when they are robbing!

Thanks

The Porn Nerd · 08-02-2018, 08:21 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pornlaw

Its a case by case situation. Are they monetizing the content? And with trademark, you can go after the hosts as well.

Louis Vuitton was awarded $10 million in trademark damages (vs $300,000 in copyright damages) against a host in SF...

https://law.justia.com/cases/federal...011-09-12.html

Contributory trademark infringement is much easier to prove up than contributory copyright infringement...

I havent seen a case vs a CC biller but Im sure it may be possible.

There's a huge difference between a Louis Vuitton and MILFSlutAssFuckers.com.

:D

pornlaw · 08-02-2018, 09:46 AM

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Originally Posted by The Porn Nerd

There's a huge difference between a Louis Vuitton and MILFSlutAssFuckers.com.

:D

Not really. Whenever Ive sent trademark C&D letters content gets taken down rather quickly. Ive even had CC Billers and programs turn off affiliates because of a TM infringement C&D letter. Unlike DMCA letters, ignoring a TM C&D is a risky proposition.

Whether you're Louis Vuitton or MILFSLutAssFuckers.com, trademark law is relatively the same for both.

ZENRA · 08-02-2018, 01:18 PM

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Originally Posted by PamWinterReturns

I didn’t bother to ask the webmasters. I’d notify the host and uplink providers.

Solid advice right here. Go right for the jugular with takedowns/C&D's: payment processors, web hosts, and maybe registrars. Nothing will make someone's balls retract harder than seeing a stern email from their biller with "DMCA" in the title.

07-31-2018, 10:58 PM	#1
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kane Too lazy to set a custom title Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: portland, OR Posts: 20,684	Sadly, there isn't a whole lot you can do other than DMCA if you see it on some site. Also, watermarking the content could help. At least then if it gets stolen you get some credit (unless they remove it, of course).

08-01-2018, 08:20 AM	#5
Busty2 Member since 1999 Industry Role: Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Off the Amalfi coast Posts: 7,202	Its extremely difficult to stop people from using your © materials online or off. You could use a tool like https://www.copyscape.com/online-copyright-protection/ You could also use, from $99 https://www.trademarkengine.com/services/copyright-registration?gclid=EAIaIQobChMIz_ioz5LM3AIVCMNkCh1 z6AzjEAAYASAAEgJHNPD_BwE But in almost 50 years of shooting porn i have yet to find anything that works 100%

08-01-2018, 03:31 PM	#12
NatalieK Natalie K Industry Role: Join Date: Apr 2010 Location: Spain Posts: 18,585	if those will steal, will steal... however, if you have a decent site, traffic, content & continue to update, you´ll not have to worry about the thieves as you´ll make your income. Stick to your business and forget about the negatives! Before thinking about thieves, I´d think hard about your business set up, what niche, which servers, payment providers & designers __________________ My official site NatalieK.xxx My free porn & affiliate blog Natalie K affiliate program First time girls Skype: gspotproductions - "Converting your traffic into income since 2005"

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HairyChick Slowly dying Industry Role: Join Date: Sep 2012 Location: Padanaram Posts: 3,091	My own content was registered for legal reasons. I went after quite a few people and got paid my asking prices. Bought content was not my fight but I told the seller about my finds. Burying your head in the sand is foolish. You spent the money to produce the content. Don’t allow others to profit off your back. Used to digitally watermark my pictures and a service looked for them. It was $1000/yr and worked IF the thief didn’t change the name. I didn’t bother to ask the webmasters. I’d notify the host and uplink providers. Most took action but one time I was ignored. The uplink host cut their link until content was removed. They moved the site and repeat. Repeat. Repeat. Yup, four hosts cut them. Content was removed. You’ll need patience, smarts and balls. And good dDOS protection. __________________ ***************************************** Anti-Semites have Small Penis Syndrome. The only known treatment is electroshock therapy combined with cerebellum removal. Fortunately, it’s a tiny procedure. *****************************************

08-01-2018, 06:18 PM	#16
jsmih Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Oct 2010 Posts: 332	I'd say it depends a bit on what your are doing. Pretending to be her in the video description ("watch me..") differs from something like pretending to be her in fan correspondence. I would see the second as a legitimate gripe on her part.

08-02-2018, 08:05 AM	#18
MO79 Registered User Industry Role: Join Date: Jul 2018 Posts: 21	Thanks for the replies, sorry for late reaction Sorry everyone for this late reaction, I didn't got a e-mail alert on updates. Thanks for all the replies. So yeah, based on this, I'll go for watermarking and of course hunt the thieves when they are robbing! Thanks