More games from Putin

[NewNick]

Hey Nico, you are usually very keen on keeping us informed and up to date with world events.

This is in your back yard, perhaps you missed it ?

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-45746837

Cue the Russians and their bots to confirm its all a fantasy of enemies of The State.

[nico-t]

Yes I've seen this side show. What a coincidence it are Ze Russians again. And what a coincidence our security agency decided to extensively publish this case of spying of a couple of amateurish bumbling Russians in the media and release every single detail, while in all other cases they're strictly against that.

A couple of Russian spies, and the first time EVER our security agency decides to provide the media with pics and stories to blow this story up to get it out in the world media. Hm, I wonder why they chose to do so with this particular case? I really wonder.

Lets all forget that every single country is spying on every other country.

Lets all forget that the biggest and most advanced spy network ever, PRISM of the NSA, is still growing bigger by the day and is the most extreme, large scaled infringement of privacy for citizens across the globe. But that's not news anymore so we just let it happen.

Lets forget the NSA spied on this exact same Dutch institution these Russians attempted to spy on.

Lets forget that a law was passed last april in Holland for a 'dragnet', that makes it officially legal for our security agencies to mass-tap all of its own citizens without them being suspects of anything, and hand all this data of its OWN CITIZENS over to the NSA. This is our own government.
We, the citizens, voted against this law in a referendum this year. You never guess what happened next... They ignored our vote as usual, moved some commas, and pushed it through anyway. And you know what our government did next? Get rid of that pesky referendum law so we can't vote on laws anymore.
You know which only other country in history removed their referendum law? East Germany in 1968, because they were also afraid of the voice and will of the people.

Lets also forget that Ze Russians are used to create a boogeyman of a country again by our media and politicians. So anything any other country does isn't made into news, but when Russia does it, it is. And (as you can already see by just the few examples i gave) there is lots and lots more material of other countries doing the same or far worse.
The start of the anti Russia campaign was around 2013, since then gradually Russia is more and more in the news all of a sudden. Why do you think Russia is mentioned every single day now in US media? Does 'cold war' ring a bell? Hello? Anything in that head of yours?

I could go on and on. But we forget. We let the media tell us what is important. We like pictures of a couple of bad men because we can relate to that. It's simple. We don't like a picture of a PRISM hub on the rocky countryside shore of Great Britain. We can't relate to a huge data structure ripping billions and billions of more of our data than this handful of Russian idiots ever can.

I hope you read this huge book, since you did address me in your OP, so you understand where i'm coming from.

[NewNick]

Originally Posted by nico-t

Yes I've seen this side show. What a coincidence it are Ze Russians again. And what a coincidence our security agency decided to extensively publish this case of spying of a couple of amateurish bumbling Russians in the media and release every single detail, while in all other cases they're strictly against that.

A couple of Russian spies, and the first time EVER our security agency decides to provide the media with pics and stories to blow this story up to get it out in the world media. Hm, I wonder why they chose to do so with this particular case? I really wonder.

Lets all forget that every single country is spying on every other country.

Lets all forget that the biggest and most advanced spy network ever, PRISM of the NSA, is still growing bigger by the day and is the most extreme, large scaled infringement of privacy for citizens across the globe. But that's not news anymore so we just let it happen.

Lets forget the NSA spied on this exact same Dutch institution these Russians attempted to spy on.

Lets forget that a law was passed last april in Holland for a 'dragnet', that makes it officially legal for our security agencies to mass-tap all of its own citizens without them being suspects of anything, and hand all this data of its OWN CITIZENS over to the NSA. This is our own government.
We, the citizens, voted against this law in a referendum this year. You never guess what happened next... They ignored our vote as usual, moved some commas, and pushed it through anyway. And you know what our government did next? Get rid of that pesky referendum law so we can't vote on laws anymore.
You know which only other country in history removed their referendum law? East Germany in 1968, because they were also afraid of the voice and will of the people.

Lets also forget that Ze Russians are used to create a boogeyman of a country again by our media and politicians. So anything any other country does isn't made into news, but when Russia does it, it is. And (as you can already see by just the few examples i gave) there is lots and lots more material of other countries doing the same or far worse.
The start of the anti Russia campaign was around 2013, since then gradually Russia is more and more in the news all of a sudden. Why do you think Russia is mentioned every single day now in US media? Does 'cold war' ring a bell? Hello? Anything in that head of yours?

I could go on and on. But we forget. We let the media tell us what is important. We like pictures of a couple of bad men because we can relate to that. It's simple. We don't like a picture of a PRISM hub on the rocky countryside shore of Great Britain. We can't relate to a huge data structure ripping billions and billions of more of our data than this handful of Russian idiots ever can.

I hope you read this huge book, since you did address me in your OP, so you understand where i'm coming from.

Thats a lot of words to say absolutely nothing Nico.

I know Pooty is your hero. Pooty is can do nothing wrong, Pooty the flagbearer for alt-right nationalism.

Pooty organises state sponsored doping in sports.

Pooty organises murder of dissidents and journalists in his own country.

Pooty organises murder of his enemies in other sovereign nations.

Pooty does all this whilst saying all the accusations are lies and fabrications by the enemies of Russia.

Are you sure it is all lies Nico ?

The US, the UK , and the Dutch authorities have all said categorically that these accusations are fact. The US authorities have indicted 7 Russians. The attackers in Salisbury have been proven to be from the GRU.

Wake the fuck up./

[nico-t]

Originally Posted by NewNick

Thats a lot of words to say absolutely nothing Nico.

I know Pooty is your hero. Pooty is can do nothing wrong, Pooty the flagbearer for alt-right nationalism.

Pooty organises state sponsored doping in sports.

Pooty organises murder of dissidents and journalists in his own country.

Pooty organises murder of his enemies in other sovereign nations.

Pooty does all this whilst saying all the accusations are lies and fabrications by the enemies of Russia.

Are you sure it is all lies Nico ?

The US, the UK , and the Dutch authorities have all said categorically that these accusations are fact. The US authorities have indicted 7 Russians. The attackers in Salisbury have been proven to be from the GRU.

Wake the fuck up./

No. I see both sides. You only see the side the media tells you to see. When I want to show you both sides, i am a 'Pooty friend'. Objectivity doesn't exist anymore in your mind. You only accept the propaganda we hear on a daily basis. Anything that goes beyond that and you get called names and a 'Pooty friend'. That's what this propaganda conditioned you to do. I wish i could say 'i don't blame you' but sadly, i cannot blame anyone else but you, to allow yourself to be fooled and be used like this.

Disconnect from the matrix and start thinking for yourself again

[NewNick]

Originally Posted by nico-t

No. I see both sides. You only see the side the media tells you to see. When I want to show you both sides, i am a 'Pooty friend'. Objectivity doesn't exist anymore in your mind. You only accept the propaganda we hear on a daily basis. Anything that goes beyond that and you get called names and a 'Pooty friend'. That's what this propaganda conditioned you to do. I wish i could say 'i don't blame you' but sadly, i cannot blame anyone else but you, to allow yourself to be fooled and be used like this.

Disconnect from the matrix and start thinking for yourself again

Ok so now you dont deny that Pooty's Russia is a bad actor in the various murders and other crimes that they are accused of.

What does your post actually mean ?

Its all true but you dont care ?

Its all true but Pooty is on your team ?

Its all true but what about the emails ?

Its all true but you are going to say that I am wrong anyway ?

Anything but actually bring yourself to say that Russia is a bad actor and Pooty is at the heart of it ?

Just say it Nico ???

[_Richard_]

there seems to be a big spy war going on.. americans recently stole hypersonic missile tech and reestablished their hegemony: https://www.globalresearch.ca/did-th...ecrets/5656080

they will be testing a lot sooner than those guys expected

i think china just stole anti ship missile tech too

[nico-t]

Originally Posted by NewNick

Ok so now you dont deny that Pooty's Russia is a bad actor in the various murders and other crimes that they are accused of.

What does your post actually mean ?

Its all true but you dont care ?

Its all true but Pooty is on your team ?

Its all true but what about the emails ?

Its all true but you are going to say that I am wrong anyway ?

Anything but actually bring yourself to say that Russia is a bad actor and Pooty is at the heart of it ?

Just say it Nico ???

And still you are obsessed about Putin and discard anything else.

Every single government, especially from bigger more powerful countries, has blood on their hands. Russia has. The US has. China has. Why do you keep focusing on only one of them and keep ignoring the crimes and atrocities of others?

[Tasty1]

Looks like Holland did a good job. With the information they got they where able to identify 300 Russion spies! But i don't know if that is much, maybe Russia know the spies of all countries

But i don't trust the dutch government who track everyone everywhere now on Streets and on the internet. These spies should be arrested and be in court. That way we could realy see and hear what happened. And would be a good start to put more pressure on Russia regarding the MH17 plane they helped to shoot down.

Now it will be a yes/no game with Russia. I expect more news to be published. The Russians where realy stupid if it is true what we can read now in the news. And will make that a lot of people have enough of the Russians and support actions against Russia. That must be the goal why the Dutch are open about it. Or maybe Russia now comes with the information what terrorist group where supported by Holland in Syria and the dutch tactis to publish all fire back.

I think they are busy now in Russia to make their story and jouirnalist are looking if more spies are on dating sites.

[nico-t]

Originally Posted by _Richard_

there seems to be a big spy war going on.. americans recently stole hypersonic missile tech and reestablished their hegemony: https://www.globalresearch.ca/did-th...ecrets/5656080

they will be testing a lot sooner than those guys expected

i think china just stole anti ship missile tech too

Both not Russia so it doesn't matter to the OP.

[NewNick]

Originally Posted by nico-t

Both not Russia so it doesn't matter to the OP.

Didnt actually say that though did I Nico.

Of course I am aware that all countries spy on each other. However can you imagine your own government creating a program to use drugs on its Olympic Athletes, and then use its security services to "fix" the results of the testing regime ?

Also can you imagine the Dutch government sending its spy's armed with nerve agents or nuclear poisons to murder it's enemies in other western countries ?

Not secretly, not to look like suicide, but blatant murder in a manner that says "fuck you" to the host country.

Pooty is doing whatever the fuck he likes. Pooty then says fuck you when he gets caught.

And Nico thinks this is OK.

[_Richard_]

lol wow: China Put Secret Spy Microchips in Servers Used by Apple And Amazon, Says Explosive Report

https://www.sciencealert.com/china-i...azon-and-apple

[pimpmaster9000]

everything the OP mentioned the USA does 100x over but it does not count...because: west....

I live for the day russia gets a strong leader and not pooty...somebody who will forbid the west from even mentioning russia...this is the only way forward...until then we will all get bombed and invaded and spied on and economically terrorized by the western corporate cleptocrats...the EU knows nothing but the taste of US foreign policy asshole...american shit is the only meal on the menu...

[klinton]

Originally Posted by nico-t

No. I see both sides. You only see the side the media tells you to see. When I want to show you both sides, i am a 'Pooty friend'. Objectivity doesn't exist anymore in your mind. You only accept the propaganda we hear on a daily basis. Anything that goes beyond that and you get called names and a 'Pooty friend'. That's what this propaganda conditioned you to do. I wish i could say 'i don't blame you' but sadly, i cannot blame anyone else but you, to allow yourself to be fooled and be used like this.

Disconnect from the matrix and start thinking for yourself again

you have fair and right points in your previous post, and I agree with them, BUT...
if you dont like being a Dutch citizen, change it to Russian citizenship...otherwise people like you are called https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fifth_column

basically, if you criticize your own government and west, rest assured that Russia is even worse for its citizens...Thats why all sane Russians (except maybe CyberSeo that lives in parallel universe) emigrate from this shithole to this "bad" west...

[klinton]

Originally Posted by Bjorn_Tasty1

Looks like Holland did a good job. With the information they got they where able to identify 300 Russion spies! But i don't know if that is much, maybe Russia know the spies of all countries

But i don't trust the dutch government who track everyone everywhere now on Streets and on the internet. These spies should be arrested and be in court. That way we could realy see and hear what happened. And would be a good start to put more pressure on Russia regarding the MH17 plane they helped to shoot down.

Now it will be a yes/no game with Russia. I expect more news to be published. The Russians where realy stupid if it is true what we can read now in the news. And will make that a lot of people have enough of the Russians and support actions against Russia. That must be the goal why the Dutch are open about it. Or maybe Russia now comes with the information what terrorist group where supported by Holland in Syria and the dutch tactis to publish all fire back.

I think they are busy now in Russia to make their story and jouirnalist are looking if more spies are on dating sites.

never ever trust a Ruskie from government, they always lie.
They recently published their "interview" with "innocent" private persons on Russian TV, that tried to kill Skripals...Later it appeared that these guys were actually GRU officers (their true names resurfaced)...LOL
GRU surely lowered its standards, looks like a bunch of amateurs these days.

look how surreal it is.... Ruskies are masters (well...sometimes) in subversion, propaganda and LIES. They try hard

[klinton]

Originally Posted by NewNick

However can you imagine your own government creating a program to use drugs on its Olympic Athletes, and then use its security services to "fix" the results of the testing regime ?

Also can you imagine the Dutch government sending its spy's armed with nerve agents or nuclear poisons to murder it's enemies in other western countries ?

dont be naive

[Tasty1]

I think we will see now more news that all countries spy and steal. Russians are the amateurs or they don't give a shit. Like killing former spies and making mistakes like in Holland that gave information about 300 spies.

As long as Holland make documens classified to hide their role in Syria, we all know that more shit will pop up soon. Ideal for Russia to publish the role of some countries in Syria the countries wanted to hide. They did that before.

Don't forget the USA even evedropped the Brazilian president (and many many more). It is just like 007, but than in real life with some B-actors.

[pimpmaster9000]

Originally Posted by klinton

basically, if you criticize your own government and west, rest assured that Russia is even worse for its citizens...Thats why all sane Russians (except maybe CyberSeo that lives in parallel universe) emigrate from this shithole to this "bad" west...

you are completely ignoring the laws of action and reaction...

each time the USA puts pressure on a country it has consequences...the USA pushes, and an equal opposite reaction happens...the USA has been fucking russia since WW2...it is easy to say "look russia" or "look north korea" and just look at that one snapshot and pretend that nothing happened before this to make things like they are...

I mean I can go take a shit in the cleanest house and point fingers...

my point is, you are completely ignoring the massive massive efforts the west puts in to doing everything it can against other regions and then you only look at the result...you are ignoring that dictators are CREATED they do not pop out out of the blue...you are ignoring the fact that a democratic and peaceful leader will get FUCKED by the invading corrupt west...there is NO option to be nice with the west...

russia does not need a bernie sanders...it will just get fucked even more by the western mafia...russia needs a strong strong leader...somebody who is not to be fucked with...this is the only way forward...

[klinton]

Originally Posted by crucifissio

the USA has been fucking russia since WW2...

good luck with that comrade

you are wasting your time in capitalist and stupid DR, go to live in communist paradise named Cuba

[Bladewire]

Originally Posted by nico-t

Yes I've seen this side show. What a coincidence it are Ze Russians again. And what a coincidence our security agency decided to extensively publish this case of spying of a couple of amateurish bumbling Russians in the media and release every single detail, while in all other cases they're strictly against that.

A couple of Russian spies, and the first time EVER our security agency decides to provide the media with pics and stories to blow this story up to get it out in the world media. Hm, I wonder why they chose to do so with this particular case? I really wonder.

Lets all forget that every single country is spying on every other country.

Lets all forget that the biggest and most advanced spy network ever, PRISM of the NSA, is still growing bigger by the day and is the most extreme, large scaled infringement of privacy for citizens across the globe. But that's not news anymore so we just let it happen.

Lets forget the NSA spied on this exact same Dutch institution these Russians attempted to spy on.

Lets forget that a law was passed last april in Holland for a 'dragnet', that makes it officially legal for our security agencies to mass-tap all of its own citizens without them being suspects of anything, and hand all this data of its OWN CITIZENS over to the NSA. This is our own government.
We, the citizens, voted against this law in a referendum this year. You never guess what happened next... They ignored our vote as usual, moved some commas, and pushed it through anyway. And you know what our government did next? Get rid of that pesky referendum law so we can't vote on laws anymore.
You know which only other country in history removed their referendum law? East Germany in 1968, because they were also afraid of the voice and will of the people.

Lets also forget that Ze Russians are used to create a boogeyman of a country again by our media and politicians. So anything any other country does isn't made into news, but when Russia does it, it is. And (as you can already see by just the few examples i gave) there is lots and lots more material of other countries doing the same or far worse.
The start of the anti Russia campaign was around 2013, since then gradually Russia is more and more in the news all of a sudden. Why do you think Russia is mentioned every single day now in US media? Does 'cold war' ring a bell? Hello? Anything in that head of yours?

I could go on and on. But we forget. We let the media tell us what is important. We like pictures of a couple of bad men because we can relate to that. It's simple. We don't like a picture of a PRISM hub on the rocky countryside shore of Great Britain. We can't relate to a huge data structure ripping billions and billions of more of our data than this handful of Russian idiots ever can.

I hope you read this huge book, since you did address me in your OP, so you understand where i'm coming from.

Nico-T the Polish immigrant to Holland defending Russia again. No surprise.

[NewNick]

Originally Posted by klinton

dont be naive

You dont need to worry about me darling, I am not naive.

[ghjghj]