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Old 10-16-2018, 08:56 PM   #1
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Should America give a shit about Jamal Ahmad Khashoggi?

The American President is either compromised by Saudi Arabia and can't move on them or he just doesn't care.
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How do you know what is said to have happened? Because Al Qaeda linked sources told you so? Who benefits if he did do something?
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How do you know what is said to have happened? Because Al Qaeda linked sources told you so? Who benefits if he did do something?
answer the question Claire!
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answer the question Claire!
No body, no crime.
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expand your view for a moment. He's disappeared under suspicious circumstances, he was an American resident writing for an American paper who has disappeared, should America give a shit about that?

you are not this glib.
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Of course we should care. I have been saying for a long time we should cut all ties with the Saudis. This is just another reason to add to the list. That guy was a permanent resident of the US and working for a US company. When journalist and others go overseas to work it is with the understanding that the US government will protect them. If we do nothing, we are basically telling other countries you can kill our people and so long as you have something we want, we won't care.
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Of course we should care. I have been saying for a long time we should cut all ties with the Saudis. This is just another reason to add to the list. That guy was a permanent resident of the US and working for a US company. When journalist and others go overseas to work it is with the understanding that the US government will protect them. If we do nothing, we are basically telling other countries you can kill our people and so long as you have something we want, we won't care.
I wholeheartedly agree. This is a defining moment for America for many reasons.
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expand your view for a moment. He's disappeared under suspicious circumstances, he was an American resident writing for an American paper who has disappeared, should America give a shit about that?

you are not this glib.
The story is about as stupid as it gets.. Why would they kill him in the consulate when he was walking freely about unaware anyone wanted to kill him? It's bullshit. A bad Dexter episode. He's sucking down drinks with his pal Usama on a beach somewhere. Again, who benefits?
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The story is about as stupid as it gets.. Why would they kill him in the consulate when he was walking freely about unaware anyone wanted to kill him? It's bullshit. A bad Dexter episode.

why would ruskis poison Skripal? Strzok!
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why would ruskis poison Skripal? Strzok!
They didn't? Why wait so many years? Again, who benefits?
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No body, no crime.
More proof you're a fraud posing as an American on GFY. You are the laziest fake nic troll I've ever seen.

in America we have a thing called circumstantial evidence that can prove you a murderer you stupid foreign hate troll bitch
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More proof you're a fraud posing as an American on GFY. You are the laziest fake nic troll I've ever seen.

in America we have a thing called circumstantial evidence that can prove you a murderer you stupid foreign hate troll bitch

common sense.
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They didn't? Why wait so many years? Again, who benefits?
again, should America care that an American resident who worked for an American company disappeared under suspicious circumstances?
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I'll rephrase;

Do you agree with the president on this? that either he is compromised by SA or it's not worth caring about.
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More proof you're a fraud posing as an American on GFY. You are the laziest fake nic troll I've ever seen.

in America we have a thing called circumstantial evidence that can prove you a murderer you stupid foreign hate troll bitch
What circumstantial evidence? Al Qaeda linked source's "anonymous source" said so?
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again, should America care that an American resident who worked for an American company disappeared under suspicious circumstances?
a saudi, was apparently killed by other saudis, in turkey...
just because he lived/resided here is irrelevant.
if he was killed here, different story.

pretty sure he can’t just send in the fbi to investigate.

so what exactly would you have trump do right now?
bomb saudi arabia? sanction them?

or maybe wait til we find out what actually happened and go from there?
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What circumstantial evidence? Al Qaeda linked source's "anonymous source" said so?
are you not aware trump has stated 'rogue" agents killed Kashoggi?
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a saudi, was apparently killed by other saudis, in turkey...
just because he lived/resided here is irrelevant.
if he was killed here, different story.

pretty sure he can’t just send in the fbi to investigate.

so what exactly would you have trump do right now?
bomb saudi arabia? sanction them?

or maybe wait til we find out what actually happened and go from there?

why would you assume I think the former before the later? i've stated more than a few times that the basic situation is the guy disappeared. Trump's the guy who's claimed he's murdered not me, maybe you should put your guy trump up to the same scrutiny you put me up to.
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are you not aware trump has stated 'rogue" agents killed Kashoggi?
Actually he said exactly what I'm saying just hours ago "Here we go again with guilty until proven innocent"

Notice who is pushing this "guilty" verdict without any evidence.. The usual suspects CNN NY Times etc.

Why 15 men? Does it really take that many people to kill one person in a contained environment?
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so what exactly would you have trump do right now?
bomb saudi arabia?
when the fuck have I ever advocated violence?

jesus titty fucking christ what a weak argument. put some effort into this rochard.
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why would you assume I think the former before the later? i've stated more than a few times that the basic situation is the guy disappeared. Trump's the guy who's claimed he's murdered not me, maybe you should put your guy trump up to the same scrutiny you put me up to.
there was not scrutiny, i simply asked what would you have trump do about it right now.
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Actually he said exactly what I'm saying just hours ago "Here we go again with guilty until proven innocent"
he also said a rogue agent could have killed the guy.

why are you even in this thread? get up to speed and then come back.
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there was not scrutiny, i simply asked what would you have trump do about it right now.
no you made some outrageous exclamation about my thinking bombing SA is an option for fucking crying out loud. then as a after thought included a more reasonable rationale response that's more aligned with my view, investigating the sitch.

None of fucking which has 1 fucking iota to do with the topic question.
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put some effort into this rochard.
i’m as much rochard as elizabeth warren is an indian.
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he also said a rogue agent could have killed the guy.

why are you even in this thread? get up to speed and then come back.
Could be.. Many don't like the Crown Prince Westernizing SA

Cheer on his downfall so those women can get back to being less than human
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America gives a shit.

The 19% of poorly educated Amoronkkkan citizens that voted for fascism, the minority, will not care about Ahmad Khashoggi.
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answer the question Claire.
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The fat prince fucked up. He is about to be sidelined for a long time in a few days.
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America gives a shit.

The 19% of poorly educated Amoronkkkan citizens that voted for fascism, the minority, will not care about Ahmad Khashoggi.
the truth hurts.
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The fat prince fucked up. He is about to be sidelined for a long time in a few days.
Yet Hillary and Obama are innocent in Benghazi right? They literally "watched" our own die and did nothing.. I'll trade ya. You can have the Crown Prince's head. I want Hillary and Obama's.
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Yet Hillary and Obama are innocent in Benghazi right? They literally "watched" our own die and did nothing..
should America give a shit about Kashoggi?
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Did/do you give a shit about Benghazi?

"What difference does it make?"
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America gives a shit.

The 19% of poorly educated Amoronkkkan citizens that voted for fascism, the minority, will not care about Ahmad Khashoggi.
wrong. america doesnt give a flying fuck.
why not? because until he disappeared nobody had ever heard of him.
If it was kim kardashian America would be up in arms.
and the only reason cnn and msnbc are covering it is because it fits into the whole ‘trump vs the media’ narrative that america also doesn’t give a flying fuck about.
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Did/do you give a shit about Benghazi?

"What difference does it make?"
start a thread on that if you want my opinion. the least you could do is commit to an opinion on this topic,since you're in here and the topic is about your posting your view. instead of trying to derail my thread.
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Trump is scared af of the Saudis... He ain't gonna do shit and they know it. That's why they did it.
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should America give a shit about Kashoggi?
They are the third largest military by expenditures. Trump should shut up and keep selling them stuff. America is now a third world country thst just cares about making a buck. Let’s let Europe lead the world for a while. China can prop up dictators for resources as well as we can so we have to shut up and take it once in a while.

The US has jumped the shark and a new world order is stepping up. The best part of that is being ina crumbling empire is a pretty good spot. It takes a hundred years or so to drop out of the top ten so we are fine for a long while to come.
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wrong. america doesnt give a flying fuck.
why not? because until he disappeared nobody had ever heard of him.
If it was kim kardashian America would be up in arms.
and the only reason cnn and msnbc are covering it is because it fits into the whole ‘trump vs the media’ narrative that america also doesn’t give a flying fuck about.
Like you don't give a shit about Benghazi
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Like you don't give a shit about Benghazi
i litearally couldn’t give less of a shit about benghazi.
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Does America have to be the world's COP?

Just asking...
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Just asking...
Its not.

But there was a time, not long ago, when the norms of international behaviour were not constantly being rewritten in a downward spiral.

There was a time, not long ago, when "annexing" of independent neighbouring countries in Europe was just not the done thing. This was last fashionable when Jack Boots and Lebensraum were all the rage.

There was a time, not long ago, when the leader of free world did not lick the arse of murderous dictators whilst pissing in the face of allies and partners.

Sanity may again prevail one day. Unfortunately I think it will get worse before it gets better.

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wrong. america doesnt give a flying fuck.
why not? because until he disappeared nobody had ever heard of him.
If it was kim kardashian America would be up in arms.
and the only reason cnn and msnbc are covering it is because it fits into the whole ‘trump vs the media’ narrative that america also doesn’t give a flying fuck about.


Ahhh this guy. Sat on gfy constantly defending bush and the iraq invasion until he was shamed away. What a putz.
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No, we shouldn't care at all. We should let any country kill people who reside in the United States and work for American news companies.

Are you fucking kidding me? This man was living in the United States and was a journalist for an American news company. We should cut all military sales instantly, as well as all military support. Then we should bomb them back into the stone age and destroy every single piece of military equipment we ever sold them. While we are at it, we should bomb and destroy a few of their palaces.

Think I'm crazy? Think again. We need send a very strong message that this is unacceptable.
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No, we shouldn't care at all. We should let any country kill people who reside in the United States and work for American news companies.

Are you fucking kidding me? This man was living in the United States and was a journalist for an American news company. We should cut all military sales instantly, as well as all military support. Then we should bomb them back into the stone age and destroy every single piece of military equipment we ever sold them. While we are at it, we should bomb and destroy a few of their palaces.

Think I'm crazy? Think again. We need send a very strong message that this is unacceptable.
nothing sends a clear and strong message like "we have murdered millions of muslims over the years over oil but if you murder one muslim we will murder millions more"
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So the next Dexter episode gets even better. Apparently he was dismembered while still alive and his remains dissolved in acid.
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To have an American president being complicit in the murder coverup of an American(for all intents and purposes) Journalist is way outside the bounds of acceptable behavior by a president. It makes it even worse to know he's compromised by his financial dealings with the Saudi Arabia (as he is with Russia). It doesn't take a world class detective to see what's happening here.
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No, we shouldn't care at all. We should let any country kill people who reside in the United States and work for American news companies.

Are you fucking kidding me? This man was living in the United States and was a journalist for an American news company. We should cut all military sales instantly, as well as all military support. Then we should bomb them back into the stone age and destroy every single piece of military equipment we ever sold them. While we are at it, we should bomb and destroy a few of their palaces.

Think I'm crazy? Think again. We need send a very strong message that this is unacceptable.
I would go a step further and start carpet bombing.
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No, we shouldn't care at all. We should let any country kill people who reside in the United States and work for American news companies.

Are you fucking kidding me? This man was living in the United States and was a journalist for an American news company. We should cut all military sales instantly, as well as all military support. Then we should bomb them back into the stone age and destroy every single piece of military equipment we ever sold them. While we are at it, we should bomb and destroy a few of their palaces.

Think I'm crazy? Think again. We need send a very strong message that this is unacceptable.
so we should send a message by murdering millions of innocent Saudis.

you are a fucking fruitloop.
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