Will you accept the Mueller Probe findings?

[2MuchMark]

Question for tRumpers and non-tRumpers:

It looks like the Mueller probe is almost complete and should be released next week. Will you accept all its contents as the truth?

[beerptrol]

Yep. Even if he doesn't find any collusion between Chump and russia.

Just proves how much a moron and not a deal maker chump is. I mean you have to be a fucking moron to surround yourself with so many russian agents even after the FBI warned him.

I think his cover up and attempts to obstruct will get him along with any financial crimes he and his crime family have committed!

[Rochard]

No matter what I fully believe that there was collusion between the Trump campaign and the Russian government. Everyone in the Trump campaign was having secret meetings with the Russian government, and then lying about it - sometimes under oath. Trump's campaign manager - who is currently in prison - was actually handing them polling data. How is that not collusion? Roger Stone was directly communicating between Wikileaks and the Trump campaign about the release of stolen /hacked information from the DNC. How is this not collusion? And this is just two out of two or three dozen examples of collusion. So far as I am concerned, this is treason.

I also believe that there has been obstruction of justice. Everyone has been lying about all of this, and Trump himself has a full time media disinformation campaign going on designed to obstruct justice from the start.

And this is just the tip of the iceberg. The Trump Foundation was completely illegal from the start, operated illegally for over a decade, and nearly everything they did was against the law. (How are they all not in prison for this?) The Trump Inaugural Committee is being investigated - They spent nearly a million dollars at the Trump hotel alone. Then we have the payoffs to Stormy Daniels and others, the hush money.... Every time we turn around there are more crimes.

How is this acceptable?

The United States elected a failed business man and former game show host who has built his entire career getting rich on other's people money while violating the law every chance he gets.

[aimike]

If Clinton AKA the biggest criminal to ever step foot in Washington, is not in prison.. then Trump isn't going anywhere.

Trump is an Angel compared to the Clinton Crime family.

https://thehill.com/blogs/ballot-box...a-crime-family

[Rochard]

BUT WAIT!

Just when we thought it was all over and there was no one new involved.... Surprise! Yet another name comes forward and now they want to interview him as part of the investigation!

Meet David Geovanis, who went to school with Trump at Wharton and then went to work in - you guessed it! - Russia. It seems he owned the land Trump wanted to build his hotel on in Moscow. Of course, David Geovanis works for Oleg Deripaska who is tied into (Surprise!) Paul Manafort....

You just can't make this shit up.

[Rochard]

Originally Posted by aimike

If Clinton AKA the biggest criminal to ever step foot in Washington, is not in prison.. then Trump isn't going anywhere.

Trump is an Angel compared to the Clinton Crime family.

So over a dozen investigations into Hillary turned up.... Nothing. One investigation into Trump returned with over thirty indictments, people pleading guilty left and right, and people going to prison. I mean, Trump's campaign manager is actually in prison right now.

But hey.... Those emails huh?

[ilnjscb]

I will read the evidence they present and make my own assessment. Regardless, I already know, as I've been saying for years, that Trump won't be removed and will serve out his term, and that he will be a very difficult opponent in 2020.

[aimike]

Originally Posted by Rochard

So over a dozen investigations into Hillary turned up.... Nothing. One investigation into Trump returned with over thirty indictments, people pleading guilty left and right, and people going to prison. I mean, Trump's campaign manager is actually in prison right now.

But hey.... Those emails huh?

You're totally brain dead if you think Clinton is not a massive fraudulent criminal that was taking massive of amounts of Pay to Play cash into the money laundering company AKA The Clinton Foundation.

Well yes those emails ?

One of Hillary Clinton's aides told the FBI that on two occasions he disposed of her unwanted mobile devices by breaking or hammering them.

"You don't use BleachBit for yoga emails or for bridesmaids emails," Gowdy said in an interview on Fox News Thursday. "When you are using BleachBit, it is something you really do not want the world to see." Clinton has said about 30,000 deleted emails were personal in nature.

[TheSquealer]

[RedFred]

They will do everything they can to keep the report from the public and the cultists will think it's because there is nothing there. If Trump did nothing wrong he would be begging the report to be released to the public, but he's not and he won't.

[2MuchMark]

Originally Posted by Rochard

No matter what I fully believe that there was collusion between the Trump campaign and the Russian government. .

I believe this too but - and this is important: We have to let it go if Mueller and or other other investigations prove otherwise. We have to. No one would know more about this mess than Mueller at this point.

And it's also important to separate Trump from the Trump campaign. It's entirely possible, though hard to believe, that Trump's people and the Russians acted without Donald's knowledge. Yes - totally fucking unbelievable to anyone with more than 2 brain cells - but still possible.

As GFY's most loved and respected Liberal (Thank you Vendy, WeHatePorn, Diomed, BadDog, and everyone else (You know who you are, you stupid good-looking)) for your undying love and respect, I'm prepared to accept whatever the Mueller probe and the rest of the investigations reveal about the Trumpster. He may be shit on a stick, but if Donald dindoonuffin, then Donald dindoonuffin.

So now, Redhats: Are you willing to bend-over and take it up the ass if Mueller's report says Donald DindooSumfin after all? If I can accept he didn't, can you accept that he did? Or am I and the rest of GFY liberals stronger and tougher than are?

[Rochard]

Originally Posted by 2MuchMark

I believe this too but - and this is important: We have to let it go if Mueller and or other other investigations prove otherwise. We have to. No one would know more about this mess than Mueller at this point.

If the Mueller investigation comes back and says "absolutely no signs of collusion" I will believe it, and here is why.... In the event the report does come back and says "collusion everywhere" Trump would not be able to stop it or hide it. The vast majority of the people who work for the FBI are less loyal to Trump and much more loyal to their country. In the event the report came back and said "collusion everywhere" someone somewhere along the line would have information to leak back to reporters or to Congress, very similar to Deepthroat during Watergate.

My guess is the report will come back and say there was collusion at multiple levels, but they cannot trace it directly back to Trump.

During the Whitewater investigation when the information about Clinton lying under oath and Monica's blowjob came out into the public, Republicans were screaming, demanding he resign because he was a disgrace and a distraction. Of course now the Republicans are silent. We have evidence that Trump was cheating on his wife, paying hush money, and everyone was lying about it.... Yet Republicans are silent. It's sickening.

[Rochard]

Originally Posted by RedFred

They will do everything they can to keep the report from the public and the cultists will think it's because there is nothing there. If Trump did nothing wrong he would be begging the report to be released to the public, but he's not and he won't.

Exactly this. No matter what the report says, Trump will try his best to ensure nothing gets out to the public or as little as possible gets out to the public. But if Trump and his staff has done nothing wrong, why would he want to hide it?

I say let it all out. Unless it has to do with National Security, it should all come out. But I don't want page after page of redacted nonsense. We need to know what happened. Name names, dates, details. I am very confident the FBI did a great job, but the more the press and the general public knows the more they will dig also.

We need to know the truth.

Even if the report actually comes back and says "no collusion at any level" you know sixty years from now people will be debating this on the Internet as a conspiracy theory.

[King Mark]

I will accept it, no matter what the outcome is. It is what it is, even if I don't agree with it. I didn't agree with OJ walking, but I accepted it.

[MFCT]

I will fully accept the Mueller Probe findings.

As long as it tells me what I want to hear, and leads to impeachment. Otherwise just keep investigating till they find something impeachable. Even if it means a 2-year investigation as to why Trump gets two scoops of ice cream. Or exactly why is it that Trump must drink from a water bottle with two hands, which I'm still waiting for a satisfactory answer to.

[King Mark]

^^^because his hands are small af

[kane]

So long as we get the full report. If Mueller turns it in and the AG edits half of it out and refuses to release it, then I will want steps to be taken to see the full, unabridged report.

If we get the full report, I'll accept the findings.

[beerptrol]

It may take a little longer for them to release the report because it has to be translated into a coloring book for the president

[2MuchMark]

Originally Posted by Rochard

My guess is the report will come back and say there was collusion at multiple levels, but they cannot trace it directly back to Trump.

I think so too, except I think it will all trace back to trump. But if it doesn't, it doesn't.

Originally Posted by MFCT

I will fully accept the Mueller Probe findings.

As long as it tells me what I want to hear, and leads to impeachment. Otherwise just keep investigating till they find something impeachable. Even if it means a 2-year investigation as to why Trump gets two scoops of ice cream. Or exactly why is it that Trump must drink from a water bottle with two hands, which I'm still waiting for a satisfactory answer to.

Argh! I want that too, but that would be wrong. That is the same as the GOPers investigating Bengazzi again and again. If nothing is found, nothing is found. If something NEW is found then of course, re open the investigation... but otherwise...

Originally Posted by kane

So long as we get the full report. If Mueller turns it in and the AG edits half of it out and refuses to release it, then I will want steps to be taken to see the full, unabridged report.

If we get the full report, I'll accept the findings.

Agreed. Who knows? The new AG may have already intervened to stop the investigation. It's kinda weird that they announced that the investigation is suddenly coming to and end just days after Trump installed the new AG. But then again, my tin foil hat has a hole in it.

[pimpmaster9000]

I aint accepting sheeeeeeeet...

[Acepimp]

HAHAHA The storm is still raging!! McCabe / Comey / Strozk / Page / Rosenstein.. are all going down!!!

The problem is even if the report is released to Congress, there's no obligation to make it public. I wouldn't get your hopes up. It could totally clear Trump and then we'll see Pelosi, Schumer & Schiff trying to block the release!

[Acepimp]

Originally Posted by Rochard

BUT WAIT!

Just when we thought it was all over and there was no one new involved.... Surprise! Yet another name comes forward and now they want to interview him as part of the investigation!

Meet David Geovanis, who went to school with Trump at Wharton and then went to work in - you guessed it! - Russia. It seems he owned the land Trump wanted to build his hotel on in Moscow. Of course, David Geovanis works for Oleg Deripaska who is tied into (Surprise!) Paul Manafort....

You just can't make this shit up.

Wrong. Trump was not planning to build in Moscow. Some other people were planning to build in Moscow, and they were hoping to license the Trump name. That's it. OMG impeach! LOL

Originally Posted by Rochard

So over a dozen investigations into Hillary turned up.... Nothing. One investigation into Trump returned with over thirty indictments, people pleading guilty left and right, and people going to prison. I mean, Trump's campaign manager is actually in prison right now.

But hey.... Those emails huh?

This is also false.

FBI’s top lawyer believed Hillary Clinton should face charges, but was talked out of it

For most of the past three years, the FBI has tried to portray its top leadership as united behind ex-Director James Comey’s decision not to pursue criminal charges against Hillary Clinton for transmitting classified information over her insecure, private email server.

Although in the end that may have been the case, we now are learning that Comey’s top lawyer, then-FBI General Counsel James Baker, initially believed Clinton deserved to face criminal charges, but was talked out of it “pretty late in the process.”

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The revelation is contained in testimony Baker gave to House investigators last year. His testimony has not been publicly released, but I was permitted to review a transcript.

During questioning by Rep. John Ratcliffe (R-Texas), Baker was unequivocal about his early view that Clinton should face criminal charges.

“I have reason to believe that you originally believed it was appropriate to charge Hillary Clinton with regard to violations of law — various laws, with regard to mishandling of classified information. Is that accurate?” Ratcliffe, a former federal prosecutor, asked Baker.

Baker paused to gain his lawyer’s permission to respond, and then answered, “Yes.”

He later explained why he came to that conclusion, and how his mind was changed:

“So, I had that belief initially after reviewing, you know, a large binder of her emails that had classified information in them,” he said. “And I discussed it internally with a number of different folks, and eventually became persuaded that charging her was not appropriate because we could not establish beyond a reasonable doubt that — we, the government, could not establish beyond a reasonable doubt that — she had the intent necessary to violate (the law).”

Asked when he was persuaded to change his mind, Baker said: “Pretty late in the process, because we were arguing about it, I think, up until the end.”

Baker made clear that he did not like the activity Clinton had engaged in: “My original belief after — well, after having conducted the investigation and towards the end of it, then sitting down and reading a binder of her materials — I thought that it was alarming, appalling, whatever words I said, and argued with others about why they thought she shouldn’t be charged.” ... article continues...

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But yeah I'm sure she didn't do anything wrong! Not her!!

[Rochard]

Originally Posted by 2MuchMark

I think so too, except I think it will all trace back to trump. But if it doesn't, it doesn't.

At this point... Everyone involved in this has been completely and utterly stupid. I fully believe Trump knew about what was going on, and I fully believe tracks will lead back to Trump. They aren't smart enough to cover their tracks.

[2MuchMark]

Originally Posted by Acepimp

Wrong. Trump was not planning to build in Moscow. Some other people were planning to build in Moscow, and they were hoping to license the Trump name. That's it. OMG impeach! LOL

Oh dear...



Grab the whole thing and scroll to the bottom http://cdn.cnn.com/cnn/2018/images/1...tachment.1.pdf

And here's a reminder of his lies about it.

[King Mark]

It is noted that no gfy trump supporter has stated they will accept the Mueller probe findings.

[Phoenix]

I accept that it will pivot to something else next week.

[TheSquealer]

Why would no one accept it? All it's done is uncover FBI and Democratic corruption that went unpunished (apart from all the many firings).

[Bladewire]

Originally Posted by Dead Eye

It is noted that no gfy trump supporter has stated they will accept the Mueller probe findings.

The russian controlled alt-right hate fake nic troll's fake nics want to live options open to lie & manipulate.

[2MuchMark]

Originally Posted by TheSquealer

Why would no one accept it? All it's done is uncover FBI and Democratic corruption that went unpunished (apart from all the many firings).

So will you accept it?

[Rochard]

The Mueller investigation doesn't even matter to me at this point. Today yet another lawsuit was filed against Trump. It just doesn't end.

[TheSquealer]

Originally Posted by 2MuchMark

So will you accept it?

The amusing thing is that you think i care.

It's all the Leftists that are pinning their final emotional hopes to the outcome of a fishing expedition in search of a crime. You guys are the ones full of bitterness and anger and resentment and hate and who have whipped yourselves into a frenzy of "Orange Man Bad" for 3 years. He's doing his job. Doing it well and you guys even hate that. Anyone who has broken the law should face the consequences. But there's no evidence of any law broken... no accusation... no witness testifying that a law was broken and "collusion" itself is not even a crime.

I'm not the one emotionally invested in the results and it won't affect my life in the slightest... that's you weirdos. My life won't change. I won't care one way or the other. We already know it says nothing. just like the Senate Intel Committee also said the same.

The question is,... are you going to have close friends and family around when it's released.... so that they can keep you safe.

It won't change anything. Your insane and non stop doom and gloom and depressing rhetoric will continue FROM CANADA.

You're going to make it into something it's not, even if there's nothing bad in it.

I'm going to laugh and keep poking fun at the Lefts emotional instability and little here will change as you guys move on to the next "conspiracy" as the economy roars along and voters are pleased.

[Bladewire]

Originally Posted by 2MuchMark

So will you accept it?

He wont.

The russian controlled alt-right hate fake nic troll must keep all his nics open to pivoting 180 degrees at any moment and go back on its word at any time per Putin's request

[King Mark]

ThePorker running around that question like it got the plague. Trying to convince people he don't care... Bro... Search your own post history. When it come to people who care, you are an extremist. You extremely care... Giant walls of texts DAILY of caring.

That denial and deflection got bro in the twilight zone.

[TheSquealer]

are you fucking retarded? I said over and over that i dont care. why wouldn't anyone accept it?

dumbass.

Do I have to spell it out for you?

"i will accept it". Do i need to say it some other way so you can comprehend?

Do you need a diagram with that? or was that simple enough for you to grasp?

[TheSquealer]

Originally Posted by Bladewire

He wont.

The russian controlled alt-right hate fake nic troll must keep all his nics open to pivoting 180 degrees at any moment and go back on its word at any time per Putin's request

you have yet to prove anyone at all has more than one nic.

because you are just another emotionally unhinged lunatic of the Left.

[King Mark]

Originally Posted by TheSquealer

are you fucking retarded? I said over and over that i dont care. why wouldn't anyone accept it?

dumbass.

Do I have to spell it out for you?

"i will accept it". Do i need to say it some other way so you can comprehend?

Do you need a diagram with that? or was that simple enough for you to grasp?

Being that you like to play semantics games, yes we needed that... So you don't pull your usual stunts.

Porker.

[TheSquealer]

Funny how all you guys never notice great news that happens daily or even any good in the world...... cause Orange Man Bad.

https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/...736978432?s=19

but you think "the other guys" have the problem.. when the better the news gets, the angrier you guys get.

your like the Flat Earthers of politics.

[King Mark]

Shout out to the Emirates...

One of them muzzie countries onehung acts like doesn't exist.

[TheSquealer]

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-n...-idUSKBN1I10OD

South Korea president says Trump deserves Nobel Peace Prize
Hyonhee Shin

SEOUL (Reuters) - South Korean President Moon Jae-in said U.S. President Donald Trump deserves a Nobel Peace Prize for his efforts to end the standoff with North Korea over its nuclear weapons program



Fake Media - Celebs and the Media LOVED Trump Before He Ran

[King Mark]

Lol, homeboy got a notepad doc opened ready to open a can of copy pasta on that ass everytime it's cult time.

Meanwhile shit about to... NVM.

[crockett]

Originally Posted by aimike

You're totally brain dead if you think Clinton is not a massive fraudulent criminal that was taking massive of amounts of Pay to Play cash into the money laundering company AKA The Clinton Foundation.

Well yes those emails ?

One of Hillary Clinton's aides told the FBI that on two occasions he disposed of her unwanted mobile devices by breaking or hammering them.

"You don't use BleachBit for yoga emails or for bridesmaids emails," Gowdy said in an interview on Fox News Thursday. "When you are using BleachBit, it is something you really do not want the world to see." Clinton has said about 30,000 deleted emails were personal in nature.

This topic isn't about Hillary, why are you incapable of staying on topic? Do you need drugs for your ADD?

[crockett]

Originally Posted by Phoenix

I accept that it will pivot to something else next week.

It has't pivoted to anything. It's always been and always will be about Russian involvement, possible collusion with Trump's campaign and obstruction of justice. Muller can't help it that Trump's campaign crew can't stop lying under oath..

Also any other crimes found during the investigation will obviously lead to charges. Just like Clinton got charged for lying about a BJ by Republicans in their 8 year ordeal of "trying to get the Clinton's part 1".

The simple fact is many of the charges so far have been because they lied to investigators trying to cover up their fraud & dealings with Russians. That is a crime. You can not lie to the FBI, you can't lie under oath to Congress both are crimes..

You can try to pretend it's not but it just makes you look the fool. Do you really want to be played the fool by your right wing media or do you want to educate yourself on reality?


Also just because those are the only charges brought against some of these guys "now" doesn't mean they still wont be charged with more stuff later. Just like Manafort was charged with a 2nd set of crimes.

You are a fool if you don't think Trump is criminally involved with Russian money laundering. His fucking dumb ass kid just admitted in a Fox New interview they were doing it in 2006.

You are in a serious case of denial if you think this investigation is "pivoting". All of this is well with-in the scope of Russian intervention/collusion as well as obstruction of justice..

You seem to forget all about that second half the the investigation. It's not just about Russia. Comey's investigation was about Russian mettling. However the moment Trump fired Comey and admitted on tape he did it to ease pressure off the "Russian thing".. Muller was then tasked with finishing Comey's Russian investigation but also tasked with Obstruction of justice investigation.

You seriously need to inform yourself of what reality is because you obviously do not understand what is going on. I highly suggest you educate yourself some place beside the drudge report & fox news..


The simple fact is Trump fucked himself by firing Comey because they were not looking at Trump's involvement as deeply as they are now. Manafort, Stone ect are in jail right now most likely due to Trump's action of firing Comey because the investigation was widened when that happened.

[TheSquealer]

[directfiesta]

Originally Posted by TheSquealer

Another republican under investigation ....

[TheSquealer]

Another irrelevant Canadian with another irrelevant opinion.

[2MuchMark]

Originally Posted by TheSquealer

The amusing thing is that you think i care.

Not at all, and, you don't get it.

You love to pick on Lefties and talk about how we are all one sided. I'm here, saying that as a lefty, I'll accept whatever the investigations show.

I started this thread asking if you could do the same. Not twice but 3 times now, you change the subject instead of answer the question. Why are you incapable of answering it? All you have to say is Yes or No - it won't change anyone's opinion of you. The fact that you prefer to dodge instead of answer is... intradesting.

Originally Posted by TheSquealer

It's all the Leftists that are pinning their final emotional hopes to the outcome of a fishing expedition in search of a crime. You guys are the ones full of bitternessblah blah blah blah...

Originally Posted by TheSquealer

I'm not the one emotionally invested in the results and it won't affect my life in the slightest.

Your actions say otherwise.

Originally Posted by TheSquealer

.. that's you weirdos. My life won't change. I won't care one way or the other. We already know it says nothing. just like the Senate Intel Committee also said the same.

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It won't change anything. Your insane and non stop doom and gloom and depressing rhetoric will continue FROM CANADA.

Right, I'm from Canada, and it won't change my life one bit. The fact that it could change your lives is what all of us Canadians worry about. But hey, what do we know, nothing, right?

Originally Posted by TheSquealer

I'm going to laugh and keep poking fun at the Lefts emotional instability and little here will change as you guys move on to the next "conspiracy" as the economy roars along and voters are pleased.

Thats fine and all, but - Will you accept the findings of the investigations no matter what? Yes or no, 1 or 0, on or off. Come on, you can do it.

[ghjghj]

Originally Posted by 2MuchMark

what do we know, nothing, right?

Nothing

[Acepimp]

[Kiopa_Matt]

I very highly doubt we'll ever get to see the Mueller report, so kind of a moot question. They're gearing up to do everything they possibly can to prevent its release to the public.

[kane]

Originally Posted by Kiopa_Matt

I very highly doubt we'll ever get to see the Mueller report, so kind of a moot question. They're gearing up to do everything they possibly can to prevent its release to the public.

Trump said today he is for it being made public. He doesn't really have a choice. He might legally be able to suppress it, but the only reason he would do that is if it is bad. If he refused to release it the House (and maybe even the Senate) would have Mueller testify, likely in public and they would ask him what was found.

In short, the info in the report is going to get out one way or another, Trump trying to stop it would only make himself look worse.