Why do people in rural areas do this?

[crockett]

This is something I see a lot off in rural areas outside of city ordinances and code enforcement..

You will see people with their yards literally filled with trash.. I dont mean household garbage but just junk that they drag home from who knows where and leave it strung around their yards like a junkyard.

Why do you think people do this? What do you think they think they are accomplishing?

[AdultKing]

Originally Posted by crockett

This is something I see a lot off in rural areas outside of city ordinances and code enforcement..

You will see people with their yards literally filled with trash.. I dont mean household garbage but just junk that they drag home from who knows where and leave it strung around their yards like a junkyard.

Why do you think people do this? What do you think they think they are accomplishing?

Must be an American thing.

Over here you want as little junk as possible. Everyone in our area goes to great lengths to have their land clear and free of junk.

The reason is that snakes like junk and places to hide and most snakes here will kill you.

[LAJ]

Combination of poverty, ignorance, lack of tact and concern.

[Busty2]

Originally Posted by crockett

This is something I see a lot off in rural areas outside of city ordinances and code enforcement..

You will see people with their yards literally filled with trash.. I dont mean household garbage but just junk that they drag home from who knows where and leave it strung around their yards like a junkyard.

Why do you think people do this? What do you think they think they are accomplishing?

Every other home in Maine is basically a junk yard

[Rochard]

Outside of city limits there are no laws about keeping your property clean. If you do that here in town someone can complain to the city, and the city will come out and give you a citation or a ticket. In the country areas things are handled by the county, and the county doesn't care much about what you do on your property.

I live in an HOA area so we have a lot of rules about this kind of stuff. I go outside of the HOA and it looks horrible to me. I hate run down cars painted bondo parked on streets.

[SilentKnight]

Originally Posted by crockett

This is something I see a lot off in rural areas outside of city ordinances and code enforcement..

You will see people with their yards literally filled with trash.. I dont mean household garbage but just junk that they drag home from who knows where and leave it strung around their yards like a junkyard.

Why do you think people do this? What do you think they think they are accomplishing?

People are hoarders and pigs.

That's all.

[ilnjscb]

Great thread for getting insight into people who act as if they know things when they don't.

There are two reasons.

One is the lack of enforcement, most rural areas have very small bureaucracies that cover large areas. So you very seldom see the nitpicky asswipes you see in a HOA. People have less motivation, and there is less ability to "shame" so less action is taken.

The other is there is no concrete place to dump, and some places it costs money. See above, most rural counties in the US have one or two dumping sites with rules, regulations and in many cases fees to dump. If you have an old water heater, it may cost you as much as $65 to dump it. Ditto other items. So the owner does the classic "I don't have $x to spend on this today, but I'll do it eventually" and the shit builds up. Many of these people couldn't raise $200 that isn't needed for bills. At least that part I know you guys can empathize with.

[ghjghj]

They must not care op.

[SilentKnight]

Originally Posted by ilnjscb

Great thread for getting insight into people who act as if they know things when they don't.

There are two reasons.

One is the lack of enforcement, most rural areas have very small bureaucracies that cover large areas. So you very seldom see the nitpicky asswipes you see in a HOA. People have less motivation, and there is less ability to "shame" so less action is taken.

The other is there is no concrete place to dump, and some places it costs money. See above, most rural counties in the US have one or two dumping sites with rules, regulations and in many cases fees to dump. If you have an old water heater, it may cost you as much as $65 to dump it. Ditto other items. So the owner does the classic "I don't have $x to spend on this today, but I'll do it eventually" and the shit builds up. Many of these people couldn't raise $200 that isn't needed for bills. At least that part I know you guys can empathize with.

Great insight into the justification for people being hoarders and pigs.

[MassMarketing]

I'v'e seen some homes out in rural areas that look like the house vomited in the yard.

[kane]

Having grown up in a small town/rural area, I know these people and lived next door to a couple of them. Many of these people have big ideas and collect stuff intending to follow through with them and then never do. For example, one neighbor had about 6 or 7 old, dead cars in their yard. Over the years he had gotten them either really cheap or free, towed them to his house, and intended to fix them up and sell them but never did. That is the key of it for a lot of these people. They think this stuff is either going to make them money or improve their life (there was a guy living down the street from me who had half a dozen couches in his front yard so people had a place to sit) and all it really does is make a mess.

Also, well, rednecks.

[crockett]

Originally Posted by ilnjscb

Great thread for getting insight into people who act as if they know things when they don't.

There are two reasons.

One is the lack of enforcement, most rural areas have very small bureaucracies that cover large areas. So you very seldom see the nitpicky asswipes you see in a HOA. People have less motivation, and there is less ability to "shame" so less action is taken.

The other is there is no concrete place to dump, and some places it costs money. See above, most rural counties in the US have one or two dumping sites with rules, regulations and in many cases fees to dump. If you have an old water heater, it may cost you as much as $65 to dump it. Ditto other items. So the owner does the classic "I don't have $x to spend on this today, but I'll do it eventually" and the shit builds up. Many of these people couldn't raise $200 that isn't needed for bills. At least that part I know you guys can empathize with.

Is this why they are usually fat asses too?

[ilnjscb]

Originally Posted by SilentKnight

Great insight into the justification for people being hoarders and pigs.

Great insight into stereotyping and the people who only have the courage to have prejudicial opinions against those they're allowed to. Don't try to work it out, you're too stupid.

Originally Posted by crockett

Is this why they are usually fat asses too?

No, you're thinking of Walmart

[SilentKnight]

Originally Posted by ilnjscb

Great insight into stereotyping and the people who only have the courage to have prejudicial opinions against those they're allowed to. Don't try to work it out, you're too stupid.

I love what you've done with the place.

[Forkbeard]

None of y’all have ever been poor. Not truly, so it grows in your bones.

What you call junk and trash is hardware store inventory.

Need to wire two things together that broke apart? A rich man says fukit and buys a new one. A working man cuts eight inches of baling wire off the roll.

But these pigs and slobs y’all are looking down your noses at? They go out into their yard and poke around in the junk. Finds, maybe, a loop of romex that came home hooked to that “junk” hot water heater. Cuts off eight inches, strips it, uses one of the three wires to fix his busted item, pockets the other two for next time.

EVERYTHING OUT THERE replaces a trip to the hardware store that he can’t afford. Sneer all you want, but it’s just class snobbery.

[Paul Markham]

Can't live in a much more rural area than we do. Farm at the back, end of the road and orchards everywhere. But everyone looks after their property.

[celandina]

Not just yards. I drove not too long ago from LA to Vegas....garbage on the side of Interstate 15 was everywhere, as are the signs like: "this church, this boy scout group, this prison inmates, this high school....are proud to clean this mile". Loosing battle when citizens do not care how their country looks. Go figure, saluting the flag yes, but pride how the country looks is not in their blood

[just a punk]

Originally Posted by AdultKing

Must be an American thing.

Not just American at all. We have the same problem in Russia. While Moscow is very-very clean (the foreigns get amazed how clean it is)... but when you get outside the city, you'll see a real garbage apocalypse. Unfortunately (

[shake]

We have the same problem in Canada, I know some people do that with trucks. Say they have a truck and fix it themselves then they get given another one for free to use for parts, then another, then another next a boat and so on. If you're a certain kind of person and don't have a lot of money it's hard to turn down a free working fridge/freezer/dryer whatever to keep as a spare or for parts.

[Acepimp]

Have you people never watched American Pickers on History Channel?

People save shit because it has value / can be re-purposed / reused / sold for profit. Crockett doesn't understand because he lives in a van by the river.

[Rochard]

Originally Posted by ilnjscb

So you very seldom see the nitpicky asswipes you see in a HOA.

I live in an HOA and I completely fail to understand these comments. This isn't directed at you specifically, but just in general - I hear such comments often. I hear them a lot in town, and also even in our HOA community.

I've been living here thirteen years. To date we've had a few parking issues - parking isn't allowed on the streets at night - and once I was told to trim my tree (because it was hanging over the street) and once I was told I left my garbage can out (it was my green waste bin, and when the HOA gestapo drove by and took a picture I was in middle of doing yard work but had taken a break). It's really not a big deal.

When I go to the HOA meetings there is always a handful of people who complain about everything. The last time was a rule about having to paint your house once every ten years. They were coming up on ten years, and didn't want to pay thousands to have their house painted. What they didn't know is this is one of the thousands of rules most HOAs have in their rules that they don't enforce, but have them on the books in case there is one house that truly does need to be painted. They've ranted and they've raved and.... Still no one has told them they have to paint their house. They are scared of this rule and want to "rally the troops to fight it" but they don't understand it's not even an issue, and since the HOA has been in existence no one has been told to paint their house.

I love my HOA. I pay $118 a month and get free Internet, 100 up and 100 down. Then we have the pool complex.... They are rebuilding the pool complex. Including the large multipurpose room where we have meetings, special events, and even wedding receptions, we have a game room and a lounge. When they are finished this spring we will have a shallow kiddie pool, a huge lap pool, a regular pool, and an indoor pool.... But a massive gym and indoor basketball court. Fuck yea.

My point is.... Some people are just looking for confrontation and when the find one, they don't handle it properly.

[Kittens]

Originally Posted by ilnjscb

The other is there is no concrete place to dump, and some places it costs money. See above, most rural counties in the US have one or two dumping sites with rules, regulations and in many cases fees to dump. If you have an old water heater, it may cost you as much as $65 to dump it. Ditto other items. So the owner does the classic "I don't have $x to spend on this today, but I'll do it eventually" and the shit builds up. Many of these people couldn't raise $200 that isn't needed for bills. At least that part I know you guys can empathize with.

Is this accurate tho? My local landfill cost $15 for the first ton of garbage.

[NatalieK]

Originally Posted by AdultKing

Must be an American thing.

not in europe, i don´t see it in Spain or the UK

[Wilbo]

It's like the show Hoarders, only outside in the yard and not in the house.

[crockett]

Originally Posted by Acepimp

Have you people never watched American Pickers on History Channel?

People save shit because it has value / can be re-purposed / reused / sold for profit. Crockett doesn't understand because he lives in a van by the river.

AssPimple is the guy with 3 washing machines and 5 cars with now wheels outside his trailer.

[SilentKnight]

Originally Posted by Forkbeard

None of y’all have ever been poor. Not truly, so it grows in your bones.

What you call junk and trash is hardware store inventory.

Need to wire two things together that broke apart? A rich man says fukit and buys a new one. A working man cuts eight inches of baling wire off the roll.

But these pigs and slobs y’all are looking down your noses at? They go out into their yard and poke around in the junk. Finds, maybe, a loop of romex that came home hooked to that “junk” hot water heater. Cuts off eight inches, strips it, uses one of the three wires to fix his busted item, pockets the other two for next time.

EVERYTHING OUT THERE replaces a trip to the hardware store that he can’t afford. Sneer all you want, but it’s just class snobbery.

You sound like someone who's never worked 30 years paying for a house that unfortunately sits next to one of these hoarding assholes who lowers the property value of his surrounding neighbourhood because his place looks like a fucking landfill site. Not to mention the rats and vermin his property attracts. Toxic contaminants leaking out of whatever's been dumped there.

[ErectMedia]

[ilnjscb]

Originally Posted by Rochard

I live in an HOA and I completely fail to understand these comments. This isn't directed at you specifically, but just in general - I hear such comments often. I hear them a lot in town, and also even in our HOA community.

I've been living here thirteen years. To date we've had a few parking issues - parking isn't allowed on the streets at night - and once I was told to trim my tree (because it was hanging over the street) and once I was told I left my garbage can out (it was my green waste bin, and when the HOA gestapo drove by and took a picture I was in middle of doing yard work but had taken a break). It's really not a big deal.

When I go to the HOA meetings there is always a handful of people who complain about everything. The last time was a rule about having to paint your house once every ten years. They were coming up on ten years, and didn't want to pay thousands to have their house painted. What they didn't know is this is one of the thousands of rules most HOAs have in their rules that they don't enforce, but have them on the books in case there is one house that truly does need to be painted. They've ranted and they've raved and.... Still no one has told them they have to paint their house. They are scared of this rule and want to "rally the troops to fight it" but they don't understand it's not even an issue, and since the HOA has been in existence no one has been told to paint their house.

I love my HOA. I pay $118 a month and get free Internet, 100 up and 100 down. Then we have the pool complex.... They are rebuilding the pool complex. Including the large multipurpose room where we have meetings, special events, and even wedding receptions, we have a game room and a lounge. When they are finished this spring we will have a shallow kiddie pool, a huge lap pool, a regular pool, and an indoor pool.... But a massive gym and indoor basketball court. Fuck yea.

My point is.... Some people are just looking for confrontation and when the find one, they don't handle it properly.

LOL you call yourself a libertarian - you're just angry at the government when it's not you. You actually said I Love MY HOA - read that statement dude.

I live in Boston and before that lived in NYC for 25 years, solidly urban. I just hope I never have to deal with an HOA. Shit even our shareholders meetings are too upscale for HOA bottom bureaucrat types.

Originally Posted by Kittens

Is this accurate tho? My local landfill cost $15 for the first ton of garbage.

Yes it is.

[ilnjscb]

Originally Posted by Forkbeard

None of y’all have ever been poor. Not truly, so it grows in your bones.

What you call junk and trash is hardware store inventory.

Need to wire two things together that broke apart? A rich man says fukit and buys a new one. A working man cuts eight inches of baling wire off the roll.

But these pigs and slobs y’all are looking down your noses at? They go out into their yard and poke around in the junk. Finds, maybe, a loop of romex that came home hooked to that “junk” hot water heater. Cuts off eight inches, strips it, uses one of the three wires to fix his busted item, pockets the other two for next time.

EVERYTHING OUT THERE replaces a trip to the hardware store that he can’t afford. Sneer all you want, but it’s just class snobbery.

You're correct, I have never been poor, but some of us don't judge people by what political team they play on, where they come from, or how wealthy they are. The rural areas are seen as "Trump Country" so the small-minds on this board relegate them to a stereotype. There are good people with messy yards, good people with messy apartments, good people with landscaped yards, and even good people who are nitpicky bastards and love their HOA like Rochard.

By the way, the two friends I have with incredibly messy yards are both poll observers for the democrat party.

[Bladewire]

Originally Posted by ilnjscb

so the small-minds on this board relegate them to a stereotype

I don't hold your small mind against you. Keep trying to rise above them all, like crabs in a bucket.