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Old 03-07-2019, 11:31 AM   #1
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Trump now responsible for fastest deficit growth in US history

.....but the economy is great they say. In 4 years Trump will grow the deficit by nearly as much as what it grew under 8 years of Obama. Obama has to deal with a recession and bail outs that Bush signed into law. Trump has a growing economy and is growing the deficit faster than anyone in US history with his tariff war..

President Donald Trump: Total Actual plus Budgeted = $5.683 trillion, almost as much in one term as Obama added in two. That's one reason why so many argue whether Trump or Obama is better for the economy. This would be a 35 percent increase, putting him in the top 10 list.

FY 2021 - $916 billion.
FY 2020 - $987 billion.
FY 2019 - $984 billion.
FY 2018 - $833 billion.

President Barack Obama: Total = $6.785 trillion, a 57 percent increase.

FY 2017 - $666 billion. Although Trump requested additional spending, Congress did not approve it.
FY 2016 - $585 billion.
FY 2015 - $438 billion.
FY 2014 - $485 billion.
FY 2013 - $679 billion.
FY 2012 - $1.087 trillion.
FY 2011 - $1.300 trillion.



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Its more fun to break it down by countries...


Tarrif Nafta man to the rescue!

China $US419 billion.
Canada $US19.8 billion
Mexico $US81.5 billion

All record trade blow outs!!!!, Trump calls it winning! Art of the Deal stuff... AssPimp will be in to explain it shorty.

https://www.smh.com.au/business/the-...07-p512di.html

Given the deteriorating trends in the US trade equations, for such smart people, the administration seems to be demonstrating it is peopled with slow learners.
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and thesquealer was posting all this copy paste shit about how theres lots and lots of MAGA and now this happens

if only there was a clue that the emperors new clothes are the emperors new clothes
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Of course Trump did this during a strong economy....
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Of course Trump did this during a strong economy....
Remember when Robbie was outraged about Obama growing the deficit. I bet he wont say a word about this or it will be all excuses and the liberal media's fault..
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Its more fun to break it down by countries...


Tarrif Nafta man to the rescue!

China $US419 billion.
Canada $US19.8 billion
Mexico $US81.5 billion

All record trade blow outs!!!!, Trump calls it winning! Art of the Deal stuff... AssPimp will be in to explain it shorty.

https://www.smh.com.au/business/the-...07-p512di.html

Given the deteriorating trends in the US trade equations, for such smart people, the administration seems to be demonstrating it is peopled with slow learners.
Must be that 4D chess stuff and Asspimple/Squalboy will explain it all to us with some memes..
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Remember when Robbie was outraged about Obama growing the deficit. I bet he wont say a word about this or it will be all excuses and the liberal media's fault..
That's just it. When Democrats do something it's bad, evil, and horrible. When Republicans do it they don't complain a bit.

Raising the deficit is bad - always.

When Obama did this I was disappointed, but I understand the reason why it was needed. Our country was in trouble, people had lost their jobs, their houses, and the only thing that could bail us out was the federal government. We needed the US government to spend money and invest it into our country. In the process it would cause our deficit to go up. Republicans bitched the entire time.

Now our economy is strong but Trump made cuts to taxes for the rich. He is spending more for no reason, and taking in less. Thus, the deficit goes up. And suddenly Republicans are fine with this.
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Jesus H fucking Christ you guys are so gullible.

Who do you think added 10 trillion to the debt in 8 years prior to Trump taking office? And do you have any idea how much interest is paid on this entire 20 trillion in debt? You don't think that has anything to do with it? Good lord you guys will latch onto anything.
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DT: [...] We’ve got to get rid of the $19 trillion in debt.

BW: How long would that take?

DT: I think I could do it fairly quickly, because of the fact the numbers . . . .

BW: What’s fairly quickly?

DT: Well, I would say over a period of eight years.[...]
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Jesus H fucking Christ you guys are so gullible.

Who do you think added 10 trillion to the debt in 8 years prior to Trump taking office? And do you have any idea how much interest is paid on this entire 20 trillion in debt? You don't think that has anything to do with it? Good lord you guys will latch onto anything.
You mean Bush's wars and tax cuts that he kicked down the road into Obama's admin?

Face it, Republicans shit all over the floor, piss all over the walls and Dems always have to come in and clean up their shit. EVERY.FUCKING.TIME
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Jesus H fucking Christ you guys are so gullible.
O'really? ok.

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Who do you think added 10 trillion to the debt in 8 years prior to Trump taking office?
First dumbass, it's not that simple. https://www.thebalance.com/us-debt-b...ercent-3306296

Next, Why are you trying to change the subject? It's Trump's problem now. Don't you want him to fix it? Or will you suck his cock no matter what? (Don't answer, I already know you will suck his cock no matter what).
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You mean Bush's wars and tax cuts that he kicked down the road into Obama's admin?

Face it, Republicans shit all over floor, piss all over the walls and Dems always have to come in and clean up their shit. EVERY.FUCKING.TIME
Yup I agree much of it was Bush's fault. That much debt just keeps spiraling into more debt. Now just the interest is something like 600 billion a year so of course it's the fastest growing. The article is disingenuous at best. This is right up rochard's ally.
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You mean Bush's wars and tax cuts that he kicked down the road into Obama's admin?

Face it, Republicans shit all over floor, piss all over the walls and Dems always have to come in and clean up their shit. EVERY.FUCKING.TIME
Trump is doing the same thing Bush did

The only difference is Trump is in a trade war which has crushed our economy and increased the speed of inflation. This has caused a record 7,000,000 Americans to be 90 months plus late on their car payments which a red flag precursor to recession.
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Jesus H fucking Christ you guys are so gullible.

Who do you think added 10 trillion to the debt in 8 years prior to Trump taking office? And do you have any idea how much interest is paid on this entire 20 trillion in debt? You don't think that has anything to do with it? Good lord you guys will latch onto anything.
13 billion of tariffs paid by Americans as of Dec. 18th 2018 ....
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Yup I agree much of it was Bush's fault. That much debt just keeps spiraling into more debt. Now just the interest is something like 600 billion a year so of course it's the fastest growing. The article is disingenuous at best. This is right up rochard's ally.
Nope , fake numbers :

For all of fiscal 2018, net interest on the public debt rose by $62 billion to about $371 billion, according to the CBO's preliminary numbers.
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lol at the alt right sheep calling everyone else gullible
Notice his response is to talk about Obama, not Trump's fastest deficit growth in American history.

When the recession hits he'll say it's cyclical and expected. Just like he said billions in tariffs are good. Just like he said car manufacturers going out of business is good. Just like he said dozens of brick and mortar stores going bankrupt is good.
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Trump is doing the same thing Bush did

Same thing on steroids. Much bigger tax cuts, much bigger cutting of banking and consumer regulations and bigger deficits. The two biggest things that fucked the economy up in '09. We will totally be unprepared when the next recession hits (and it's coming) and you know the way Trump will deal with it will be 'fake news'.
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Same thing on steroids. Much bigger tax cuts, much bigger cutting of banking and consumer regulations and bigger deficits. The two biggest things that fucked the economy up in '09. We will totally be unprepared when the next recession hits (and it's coming) and you know the way Trump will deal with it will be 'fake news'.
Exactly

As the economy has started to unravel Trump just removed the bank restrictions that Obama put in place to protect from another financial collapse.

This is a critical mistake. Look at what Trump did yesterday:

"The Federal Reserve said it would adjust the structure of its annual “stress tests,” which measure the ability of leading banks to withstand a potential economic or financial storm. The changes make it easier for banks to get regulatory approval to pay higher dividends or buy back their own shares.

Separately, a federal oversight panel announced that it will no longer designate big, non-bank financial institutions — insurers, asset managers and the like — as “systemically important.” The classification subjected such firms to more intrusive government regulation."

"The bigger change is the Fed’s adjustments to how it conducts its stress tests of 11 of the biggest banks that received government bailouts in 2008.

The Fed said on Wednesday that it would end its practice of awarding “pass” or “fail” grades to banks on a portion of the stress tests that measured the capacity of banks to keep lending during a financial crisis or economic downturn. This so-called qualitative section of the test also measured the strength of their risk management and anti-money laundering systems."

https://www.nytimes.com/2019/03/06/b...egulation.html

No more pass/fail stress tests for the biggest 11 banks, on top of all the other protections removed. So smart /s
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Nope , fake numbers :

For all of fiscal 2018, net interest on the public debt rose by $62 billion to about $371 billion, according to the CBO's preliminary numbers.
Whatever the fuck it is you don't think that has anything to do with it?
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13 billion of tariffs paid by Americans as of Dec. 18th 2018 ....
And we're in a necessary trade war. It could get worse before it gets better.
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And we're in a necessary trade war. It could get worse before it gets better.
The government is spending billions bailing out our farmers because of Trump's tarrifs. Car manufacturers are moving out of America because of Trump's steel tarrifs. We have a RECORD trade deficit with China despite the tarrifs. 2018 was the worst year for stocks in 10 years. The DOW and S&P500 had their worse December since 1931. December's NASDAQ was the worst in it's history. WTF is wrong with you?
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And we're in a necessary trade war. It could get worse before it gets better.
Oh how desperate...
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Oh how desperate...
Yeah those pesky facts are "desperate."
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The government is spending billions bailing out our farmers because of Trump's tarrifs. Car manufacturers are moving out of America because of Trump's steel tarrifs. We have a RECORD trade deficit with China despite the tarrifs. 2018 was the worst year for stocks in 10 years. The DOW and S&P500 had their worse December since 1931. December's NASDAQ was the worst in it's history. WTF is wrong with you?
I've seen you say here many times China is fucking us bigtime and we need to battle them. Here's Trump is doing just that and you're complaining. You're just full of shit
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And we're in a necessary trade war. It could get worse before it gets better.
Necessary trade war that Trump isn't fit to command. The guy who failed at running a casino, failed at running a university, failed at selling steaks.. went bankrupt multiple times thinks he's the guy to fix our problems and your dumb enough to still believe him even though every thing we said would happen is happening and you still deny it..

You are like someone addicted to gambling.. This next time its gonna win big....
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Necessary trade war that Trump isn't fit to command. The guy who failed at running a casino, failed at running a university, failed at selling steaks.. went bankrupt multiple times thinks he's the guy to fix our problems and your dumb enough to still believe him even though every thing we said would happen is happening and you still deny it..

You are like someone addicted to gambling.. This next time its gonna win big....
Are you aware that China has agreed to buy 1 trillion dollars of our goods? And this is just part of the deal. But orange man bad.



You live in a god damn echo chamber that doesn't report any of this shit.

And do you think Hillary would have done the same or better?
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Are you aware that China has agreed to buy 1 trillion dollars of our goods? And this is just part of the deal. But orange man bad.



You live in a god damn echo chamber that doesn't report any of this shit.

And do you think Hillary would have done the same or better?
Sure, sure... let me show you the key wordfs in your little meme...


"buy up to $1.2 trillion" Meaning might be 1.2 trillion, might be a few 100 million... or less..
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I've seen you say here many times China is fucking us bigtime and we need to battle them. Here's Trump is doing just that and you're complaining. You're just full of shit
I'm not brainwashed like you.

I just listed major negative record breaking hits to our economy and your response is to attack me personally to distract from the topic.

Are you capable of having a straight forward conversation?

On top of all those negatives I listed yesterday Trump removed bank regulation that's put stress tests on the banks to make sure they can withstand another collapse. Do you know why? Because some were failing the tests!

If your plane started failing safety tests and you chose not to fix it and stop testing would you fly that plane?

Deutsche Bank fails Fed stress test while 3 US lenders stumble

The annual test found "widespread and critical deficiencies" in the bank's capital planning controls.

The Fed also placed conditions on three banks that passed the test.

Goldman Sachs Group and Morgan Stanley cannot increase their capital distributions.

State Street Corp must improve its counterparty risk management and analysis

None of these banks have to make any changes now because as they started failing we decided to stop testing. It's back to driving us into another crash with no protections.
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Sure, sure... let me show you the key wordfs in your little meme...


"buy up to $1.2 trillion" Meaning might be 1.2 trillion, might be a few 100 million... or less..

Meme? C'mon negative nancy.

China made an offer of over $1.2 trillion additional commitments to the US. Are you mad?
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Meme? C'mon negative nancy.

China made an offer of over $1.2 trillion additional commitments to the US. Are you mad?
Bullshit...they will buy from the USA instead of US trade partners...there is no new unplanned spending...the net deficit remains the same...your trade partners now have 1.2 trillion less money and they do not exactly like you because of it...you fucked them...oh and china does not like you as well...good luck with that LOL

red hats do not get the simplest shit...no new buyers were created...it is a scam LOL
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Bullshit...they will buy from the USA instead of US trade partners...there is no new unplanned spending...the net deficit remains the same...your trade partners now have 1.2 trillion less money and they do not exactly like you because of it...you fucked them...oh and china does not like you as well...good luck with that LOL

red hats do not get the simplest shit...no new buyers were created...it is a scam LOL
hahah look at the desperation of the serb trying to imply that trade is a zero sum game. You are a dip shit.
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Old 03-07-2019, 03:49 PM   #39
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Trump is seriously fucking this country up while the economy is still somewhat good (thanks Obama), just wait until things start going bad. Think of the fucking nightmare if Trump would have came on when Obama did. Half this country would be eating KFC out of the dumpsters. You cultists are fucking things up bad and my guess is you secretly hope the whole shit house goes up in flames because things suck so bad for you already.
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hahah look at the desperation of the serb trying to imply that trade is a zero sum game. You are a dip shit.
Do not be a moron and imply that china will buy shit it does not need or that your goods suddenly became more appealing to china folk...the chairs on the titanic have been rearranged...no new demand was created...

You red hats seem to think that XI went on chin TV and was like "buy more US shit pls!"...you red hats are amazingly stupid...
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Trump is seriously fucking this country up while the economy is still somewhat good (thanks Obama), just wait until things start going bad. Think of the fucking nightmare if Trump would have came on when Obama did. Half this country would be eating KFC out of the dumpsters. You cultists are fucking things up bad and my guess is you secretly hope the whole shit house goes up in flames because things suck so bad for you already.
What specifically has he done that is destroying the economy? And what was Hillary's plan?
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What specifically has he done that is destroying the economy? And what was Hillary's plan?
Now you're just trolling. This has already been explained to you in this thread in great detail.

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Trump is doing the same thing Bush did

The only difference is Trump is in a trade war which has crushed our economy and increased the speed of inflation. This has caused a record 7,000,000 Americans to be 90 months plus late on their car payments which a red flag precursor to recession.
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The government is spending billions bailing out our farmers because of Trump's tarrifs. Car manufacturers are moving out of America because of Trump's steel tarrifs. We have a RECORD trade deficit with China despite the tarrifs. 2018 was the worst year for stocks in 10 years. The DOW and S&P500 had their worse December since 1931. December's NASDAQ was the worst in it's history. WTF is wrong with you?
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I'm not brainwashed like you.

I just listed major negative record breaking hits to our economy and your response is to attack me personally to distract from the topic.

Are you capable of having a straight forward conversation?

On top of all those negatives I listed yesterday Trump removed bank regulation that's put stress tests on the banks to make sure they can withstand another collapse. Do you know why? Because some were failing the tests!

If your plane started failing safety tests and you chose not to fix it and stop testing would you fly that plane?

Deutsche Bank fails Fed stress test while 3 US lenders stumble

The annual test found "widespread and critical deficiencies" in the bank's capital planning controls.

The Fed also placed conditions on three banks that passed the test.

Goldman Sachs Group and Morgan Stanley cannot increase their capital distributions.

State Street Corp must improve its counterparty risk management and analysis

None of these banks have to make any changes now because as they started failing we decided to stop testing. It's back to driving us into another crash with no protections.
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Meme? C'mon negative nancy.

China made an offer of over $1.2 trillion additional commitments to the US. Are you mad?
Chinas the worlds largest growing economy, they were buying regardless as they don't have the resources to cope with the demand from the 850 million of them entering middle class. Chinas trade with Australia was up 30% last year no trade war just simple supply and demand increases.

In fact from the Aus government..
https://trademinister.gov.au/release...r_190205a.aspx

"total trade covered by free trade agreements has increased from 26 per cent to around 70 per cent, providing more opportunities for Australian exporters to sell their quality produce and goods to the world."
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Trump supporters seem to think that china suddenly needs 1.2 trillion in extra goods LOL


how amusing is that? They actually believe that it is an increase in global demand...oh my god LOL...
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Trump supporters seem to think that china suddenly needs 1.2 trillion in extra goods LOL

how amusing is that? They actually believe that it is an increase in global demand...oh my god LOL...
It would be funny if it wasn't so sad
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In fact from the Aus government..
https://trademinister.gov.au/release...r_190205a.aspx

"total trade covered by free trade agreements has increased from 26 per cent to around 70 per cent, providing more opportunities for Australian exporters to sell their quality produce and goods to the world."
That's awesome good for you guys
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early signs of MAGA
Dire financial times ahead unfortunately
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Foxnews is even waking up your countries being bankrupted.

https://www.foxbusiness.com/economy/...n-seem-to-care

The federal budget deficit is ballooning on President Donald Trump’s watch and few in Washington seem to care.

Trump’s budget arrives as the latest Treasury Department figures show a 77 percent spike in the deficit over the first four months of the budget year, driving by falling revenues and steady growth in spending.


Trump’s 2017 tax cut bears much of the blame, along with sharp increases in spending for both the Pentagon and domestic agencies and the growing federal retirement costs of the baby boom generation. Promises that the tax cut would stir so much economic growth that it would mostly pay for itself have been proved woefully wrong.
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Foxnews is even waking up your countries being bankrupted.

https://www.foxbusiness.com/economy/...n-seem-to-care

The federal budget deficit is ballooning on President Donald Trump’s watch and few in Washington seem to care.

Trump’s budget arrives as the latest Treasury Department figures show a 77 percent spike in the deficit over the first four months of the budget year, driving by falling revenues and steady growth in spending.


Trump’s 2017 tax cut bears much of the blame, along with sharp increases in spending for both the Pentagon and domestic agencies and the growing federal retirement costs of the baby boom generation. Promises that the tax cut would stir so much economic growth that it would mostly pay for itself have been proved woefully wrong.
Oooops! But the billionaires are happy
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