The Trump / Kushner Middle East plan is DOA

[Rochard]

When team Trump moved the embassy Jerusalem Robbie and Vendzilla got their panties all wet thinking "Trump keeps his promises" without understanding the long term damage this small act did.

Team Trump has done everything they could to piss off the Palestinians. He couldn't have done more damage if he intentionally tried. Besides moving the embassy, the Trump administration has cut off US funding for the Palestinians, closed the office of the Palestine Liberation Organization in Washington and ended US dialogue with Palestinian leaders. They want the Palestinians to make way more concessions than they are willing to make and offering Israel less security than now. No one is remotely interested in this.

More fail.

https://www.pri.org/stories/2019-05-...n-nobody-loves

[crockett]

Just like the North Korean peace plan.. Robbie, Viendildo and all the Red Hats were blabbing their mouths claiming it was done, when it wasn't even close..

These people have a severe lack of seeing past the front of their nose. They can not see the obvious because their entire world is a echo chamber.

Oh and the Robbies, Vendildo and Red Hats will not speak of this just like they hide from North Korea topics because "dear leader is goooood"...

[Bladewire]

So failed middle East peace, failed Venezuela, failed China, failed North Korea, failed Syria what has Trump been successful in negotiating?

[crockett]

Originally Posted by Bladewire

So failed middle East peace, failed Venezuela, failed China, failed North Korea, failed Syria what has Trump been successful in negotiating?

Brainwashing his cult.. He's pretty successful at that..

[beerptrol]

Was never about peace, but getting governments to invest in Kushner 666 building and future business for Trump

[kane]

Originally Posted by Bladewire

So failed middle East peace, failed Venezuela, failed China, failed North Korea, failed Syria what has Trump been successful in negotiating?

Don't forget, when the Dems offered him a deal with some funding for his wall he turned it down and then shut the government down for a month. Eventually, he agreed on a new deal that was actually worse than the deal they offered him in the first place.

Wasn't he supposed to be the greatest deal maker in the history of deals?

[pimpmaster9000]

when war is your main export, peace is not really an option...

[thommy]

Originally Posted by Bladewire

what has Trump been successful in negotiating?

pretty sure he have produced a few 100 k more terrorists that can´t wait their 44 virgins after set off the explosives belt at the time square.

maybe he also helped the local tourism a little, as trips abroad are also much more dangerous for americans now.

the countries marked in dark red are the countries for which travel warnings have been issued.

Here from an american perspective:



here from german perspective:

[Rochard]

Originally Posted by crockett

Just like the North Korean peace plan.. Robbie, Viendildo and all the Red Hats were blabbing their mouths claiming it was done, when it wasn't even close..

These people have a severe lack of seeing past the front of their nose. They can not see the obvious because their entire world is a echo chamber.

Oh and the Robbies, Vendildo and Red Hats will not speak of this just like they hide from North Korea topics because "dear leader is goooood"...

That's right.... They got so excited about the meetings with North Korea. That went well. I don't mean to say "We told you so" but.... We told them so.

Same shit with China. I had someone in a bike group tell me this was "a short term problem" and that a solution was "just around the corner". Um.... How long have tariffs been in place? And now they have more than tripled? And now talks have failed? Jesus fucking Christ.

Every fucking thing this man does ends in utter failure.

[OneHungLo]

Originally Posted by crockett

/// because their entire world is a echo chamber.

Want a good example of an echo chamber ...just look at this thread above this post ^^

[pimpmaster9000]

Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu said Sunday that a site for a promised new settlement to be named after US President Donald Trump had been chosen and formal approval was under way.

"I promised that we would establish a community named after President Trump," Netanyahu said at the start of the weekly cabinet meeting.

"I would like to inform you that we have already selected a site in the Golan Heights where this new community will be established, and we have started the process," he said in Hebrew.

[Grapesoda]

Originally Posted by OneHungLo

Want a good example of an echo chamber ...just look at this thread above this post ^^

[thommy]

Originally Posted by crucifissio

Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu said Sunday that a site for a promised new settlement to be named after US President Donald Trump had been chosen and formal approval was under way.

"I promised that we would establish a community named after President Trump," Netanyahu said at the start of the weekly cabinet meeting.

"I would like to inform you that we have already selected a site in the Golan Heights where this new community will be established, and we have started the process," he said in Hebrew.

that will remind the palestinians for the next 100 years that an occupied territory has the name of the US president that have legitimized this occupation.

well done - more terror created !

[Rochard]

Originally Posted by crucifissio

Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu said Sunday that a site for a promised new settlement to be named after US President Donald Trump had been chosen and formal approval was under way.

"I promised that we would establish a community named after President Trump," Netanyahu said at the start of the weekly cabinet meeting.

"I would like to inform you that we have already selected a site in the Golan Heights where this new community will be established, and we have started the process," he said in Hebrew.

Brilliant move. I know I would want my name on the area that will be known for oppressing an entire race of people for the next one hundred years.

[Paul Markham]

What a shame especially when other Presidents have been so successful in the ME. Bringing peace and love to the entire region.

And let's not forget the success in NK, Vietnam, Russia, South America, etc.

[OneHungLo]

Originally Posted by thommy

more terror created !

Yeah so lets import those people and try to be nice to them so they don't kill us.

[pimpmaster9000]

Originally Posted by Paul Markham

What a shame especially when other Presidents have been so successful in the ME. Bringing peace and love to the entire region.

And let's not forget the success in NK, Vietnam, Russia, South America, etc.

yes you are vile invaders and bomb droppers...no worries...you reap what you sow

[Rochard]

Originally Posted by Paul Markham

What a shame especially when other Presidents have been so successful in the ME. Bringing peace and love to the entire region.

Once again Paul, you are completely missing the point. Obama supporters didn't come running in here and say "Obama is going to fix the Middle East problem" or "Obama is going to fix the problems with North Korea". The Trump fans did. They honestly thought that a new president who is a failed businessman with no experience and no qualifications was going to be able to tackle the two biggest foreign policy issues that has been a thorn for the United States government for decades.

When Trump met with the leader of North Korea Trump fans were going crazy saying "See, we told you" and then nothing happened. Trump put the leader of North Korea on the world stage, made him feel like a king for a day, and in return got nothing. Trump fans still told us how this was a huge accomplishment. The second meeting ended in complete failure and the Trump White House has failed to explain what happened. Of course they haven't explained it; They lie so damn much that they don't hold press conferences.

This administration is incapable of accomplishing anything good.

[celandina]

Originally Posted by thommy

that will remind the palestinians for the next 100 years that an occupied territory has the name of the US president that have legitimized this occupation.

well done - more terror created !

I guess you idiots do not know your own history....or :

1) when to you plan returning Florida to Spain ( you obtained it by defeating Spain in a war)
2) when do you plan to return Texas ( and most of the rest of the Western US) to Mexico ( you obtained it all by defeating Mexico in a war)
3) when do you plan to return Louisiana ( and most of the Mid West) to France ( now you bought it, bit under Napoleon's duress who needed money to fight the English, basically you blackmailed him)

So why Gaza and Golan should be any different ? Or Crimea for that matter ?

Or " what is good for the goose should be good for the gander" ...or not?

[celandina]

Originally Posted by Rochard

When team Trump moved the embassy Jerusalem Robbie and Vendzilla got their panties all wet thinking "Trump keeps his promises" without understanding the long term damage this small act did.

Team Trump has done everything they could to piss off the Palestinians. He couldn't have done more damage if he intentionally tried. Besides moving the embassy, the Trump administration has cut off US funding for the Palestinians, closed the office of the Palestine Liberation Organization in Washington and ended US dialogue with Palestinian leaders. They want the Palestinians to make way more concessions than they are willing to make and offering Israel less security than now. No one is remotely interested in this.

More fail.

https://www.pri.org/stories/2019-05-...n-nobody-loves

Appeasement never works about time somebody kicked their ass

[thommy]

Originally Posted by OneHungLo

Yeah so lets import those people and try to be nice to them so they don't kill us.

I don´t have to worry that - you are the one that have to.
you can never leave your country without the risk to be killed at the next corner.

I am only feared to go to USA because there are more haters and criminals with arms on the streets as anywhere else. but I can live with that - there are so many nice places in the world where i am welcome. If I would go to the american continent i would chose canada or even latin america or cuba. many loveley places there with much fewer nazis.

[BaldBastard]

Thank fuck Australia backed out and decided not to move thier embassy. Basically here Murdoch instructed our leaders to follow Trump and like lap dogs they did. Then Indonesia reminded Australia its a Muslim country and they took offence to it. 100,000 Jews in Aus vs 264 million in Indonesia, one of our closest neighbours... so smart to keep the peace, for the future especially.

[thommy]

Originally Posted by celandina

I guess you idiots do not know your own history....or :

1) when to you plan returning Florida to Spain ( you obtained it by defeating Spain in a war)
2) when do you plan to return Texas ( and most of the rest of the Western US) to Mexico ( you obtained it all by defeating Mexico in a war)
3) when do you plan to return Louisiana ( and most of the Mid West) to France ( now you bought it, bit under Napoleon's duress who needed money to fight the English, basically you blackmailed him)

So why Gaza and Golan should be any different ? Or Crimea for that matter ?

Or " what is good for the goose should be good for the gander" ...or not?

in opposite to you we have learned from our history and know what hate creates.

by the way your facts are wrong.
we did not defeat spain - our trump of this days helped the spanish trump of this days.

germany did also never fight on the side of mexico. if you are referring to the zimmermann-telegramm read the full story and try to understand that all this conflicts in this era have been caused by powerful families.

actually in this time the country "germany" did not even exist.

seems like you are a bit lack in foreign history.

[Paul Markham]

Originally Posted by Rochard

Once again Paul, you are completely missing the point. Obama supporters didn't come running in here and say "Obama is going to fix the Middle East problem" or "Obama is going to fix the problems with North Korea". The Trump fans did. They honestly thought that a new president who is a failed businessman with no experience and no qualifications was going to be able to tackle the two biggest foreign policy issues that has been a thorn for the United States government for decades.

When Trump met with the leader of North Korea Trump fans were going crazy saying "See, we told you" and then nothing happened. Trump put the leader of North Korea on the world stage, made him feel like a king for a day, and in return got nothing. Trump fans still told us how this was a huge accomplishment. The second meeting ended in complete failure and the Trump White House has failed to explain what happened. Of course they haven't explained it; They lie so damn much that they don't hold press conferences.

This administration is incapable of accomplishing anything good.

I understand all that. The problem is the US has had a lot of bad Presidents who were frankly clueless. Yet Trump is judged by a totally different set of rules.

Bush invaded Iraq for no reason or oil and used lies to fool some. Then believed the Afghans would welcome US troops. It's all a shit show now.

Clinton created Prime Mortgages which resulted in the biggest crash since the Great Depression.

Obama bombed Libya and helped get rid of Gaddafi now Europe is over run with illegal immigrants.

President Reagan armed the rebels in Afghanistan.

Continuous Presidents and politicians have helped corporations cut staffing across the US and passed the bill onto the tax payers.

Most of us know Trump's no deep thinker, but so far that's par for the course in America. He has two good ideas, reduce illegal and legal immigration and reduce the haemorrhaging of American jobs abroad.

On the rest he's as bad as his predecessors if not worse.

[adultinnovation]

The only thing that the Democrats had to do to have a chance in 2020 was not be insane. They failed

[Paul Markham]

Originally Posted by celandina

I guess you idiots do not know your own history....or :

1) when to you plan returning Florida to Spain ( you obtained it by defeating Spain in a war)
2) when do you plan to return Texas ( and most of the rest of the Western US) to Mexico ( you obtained it all by defeating Mexico in a war)
3) when do you plan to return Louisiana ( and most of the Mid West) to France ( now you bought it, bit under Napoleon's duress who needed money to fight the English, basically you blackmailed him)

So why Gaza and Golan should be any different ? Or Crimea for that matter ?

Or " what is good for the goose should be good for the gander" ...or not?

Thommy's a German. As for lessons learned how many times did the world go to war with them and how many times has Germany gone to war?

They threaten a return to those days if we scrap their precious EU.

[thommy]

Originally Posted by Paul Markham

Thommy's a German. As for lessons learned how many times did the world go to war with them and how many times has Germany gone to war?

since it is called germany only one time. and that was WW2

and if you can read the history tell me WHO declared those wars?

WW 1 - britain and france declared war to germany
WW2 - britain declared war to germany

don´t miss the facts, old man

britain would be french today if the pre-germany preussen did not get you out from the shit. but I know - you have not been born than. so as i was not born when germany was last time fighting a war.

[pimpmaster9000]

the problem in the middle east in a nut shell:

everybody involved in the trouble in the middle east since the UK gifted away palestinian land to the jews, is a complete out-of-touch-with-reality moron like paul markham...


prediction: out of touch with reality peace talks will go on until all sides nuke up and then they will wipe each other out...


magic wand solution (in case there was such a thing as a magic wand): ban the USA from taking any part in the ME...(not realistic I know)...

[celandina]

Originally Posted by thommy

in opposite to you we have learned from our history and know what hate creates.

by the way your facts are wrong.
we did not defeat spain - our trump of this days helped the spanish trump of this days.

germany did also never fight on the side of mexico. if you are referring to the zimmermann-telegramm read the full story and try to understand that all this conflicts in this era have been caused by powerful families.

actually in this time the country "germany" did not even exist.

seems like you are a bit lack in foreign history.

" Spekie no Inglisch ?" I have not mentioned Germany , I referred to OP's comment about USA moving its embassy. BTW : Germany lost the last war and that is why they did not get back East Prussia....Poles have it, do you now want it back ?? So, if you want to get into that discussion, lets talk Sudetenland and Western Volga among other regions.

[celandina]

Originally Posted by thommy

since it is called germany only one time. and that was WW2

and if you can read the history tell me WHO declared those wars?

WW 1 - britain and france declared war to germany
WW2 - britain declared war to germany

don´t miss the facts, old man

britain would be french today if the pre-germany preussen did not get you out from the shit. but I know - you have not been born than. so as i was not born when germany was last time fighting a war.

You are actually funny....

WW 1 - britain and france declared war to germany
WW2 - bjritain declared war to germany

But it is as stupid as blaming USA for attacking Imperial Japan in 1941

[Paul Markham]

Originally Posted by thommy

since it is called germany only one time. and that was WW2

and if you can read the history tell me WHO declared those wars?

WW 1 - britain and france declared war to germany
WW2 - britain declared war to germany

don´t miss the facts, old man

britain would be french today if the pre-germany preussen did not get you out from the shit. but I know - you have not been born than. so as i was not born when germany was last time fighting a war.

Thank you for confirming your belief Germany can go invading countries around Europe. Did you think before you posted?

[thommy]

Originally Posted by Paul Markham

Thank you for confirming your belief Germany can go invading countries around Europe. Did you think before you posted?

did you read before you post ?

when did i say that and WHERE ???

copy and paste it, moron !!!!

[thommy]

Originally Posted by celandina

You are actually funny....



But it is as stupid as blaming USA for attacking Imperial Japan in 1941

what is wrong on that statement ?

WW1.
Britain declared war on Germany on 4 August 2014 On 12 August, Britain and France also declared war on Austria-Hungary.

WW2:

Britain and France declared war to German yon 3rd september 1939

prove me wrong !

[Rochard]

Originally Posted by thommy

what is wrong on that statement ?

WW1.
Britain declared war on Germany on 4 August 2014 On 12 August, Britain and France also declared war on Austria-Hungary.

WW2:

Britain and France declared war to German yon 3rd september 1939

prove me wrong !

Britain declared war on Germany in 2014?

I must have missed that.

[thommy]

Originally Posted by Rochard

Britain declared war on Germany in 2014?

I must have missed that.

lool - well more or less yes - but of course it was 1914

[Rochard]

Originally Posted by Paul Markham

The problem is the US has had a lot of bad Presidents who were frankly clueless.

Just like all countries, we've had our fair share of good leaders and poor leaders. But never have we had someone as bad as Trump. Almost three years in and Republicans cannot give a list of accomplishments that have made the United States better.

[Paul Markham]

Originally Posted by thommy

did you read before you post ?

when did i say that and WHERE ???

copy and paste it, moron !!!!

So you do believe Germany has the right to invade other countries without anyone doing anything. Stop confirming your silly beliefs.

[Paul Markham]

Originally Posted by Rochard

Just like all countries, we've had our fair share of good leaders and poor leaders. But never have we had someone as bad as Trump. Almost three years in and Republicans cannot give a list of accomplishments that have made the United States better.

No disagreement there. The EU is basically run for the entitlement of corporations by politicians who can be easily bribed or persuaded to give in. Speculations about alcoholism have been surrounding Juncker for several years and have been discussed by several high-profile EU politicians.

The rest of the EU is riddled with low level politicians and bureaucrats. Which is a problem in the US.

[NewNick]

Originally Posted by Paul Markham

I understand all that. The problem is the US has had a lot of bad Presidents who were frankly clueless. Yet Trump is judged by a totally different set of rules.

Paul, Trump is judged on what he says, and what he does.

If you are going to constantly proclaim how fabulous you are on twitter, then you will find that peeps might remind you of your boasts.

Its a bit like magic join links.

We should all be careful of making outlandish statements. If it turns out to be bullshit you look like a twat.

[Paul Markham]

Originally Posted by thommy

what is wrong on that statement ?

WW1.
Britain declared war on Germany on 4 August 2014 On 12 August, Britain and France also declared war on Austria-Hungary.

WW2:

Britain and France declared war to German yon 3rd september 1939

prove me wrong !

So Britain should have done nothing after Germany invaded Czechoslovakia and Poland.

One month after the Archduke’s assassination – on July 28 1914 – Austria-Hungary declared war on Serbia with the backing of Germany. Germany then declared war on Russia on August 1, and on France on August 3.

On August 4 1914, the German troops marched on France and the route they took went through Belgium. Since Britain had agreed to maintain the neutrality of Belgium, they immediately declared war on Germany.

So you think Britain should have allowed Germany to go invading Europe with impunity.

Please double check your facts. https://kidskonnect.com/history/ww1-start/ it's a children's sight so you should be able to comprehend it.

[celandina]

Originally Posted by Paul Markham

So Britain should have done nothing after Germany invaded Czechoslovakia and Poland.

One month after the Archduke’s assassination – on July 28 1914 – Austria-Hungary declared war on Serbia with the backing of Germany. Germany then declared war on Russia on August 1, and on France on August 3.

On August 4 1914, the German troops marched on France and the route they took went through Belgium. Since Britain had agreed to maintain the neutrality of Belgium, they immediately declared war on Germany.

So you think Britain should have allowed Germany to go invading Europe with impunity.

Please double check your facts. https://kidskonnect.com/history/ww1-start/ it's a children's sight so you should be able to comprehend it.

Hey Paul, do not bother with the Tommy the Idiot , he probably will claim that USA declared war on poor Japan....of course it did, but just as Serbia and later Poland, he does not get , that Pearl Harbour was a good reason.. he is a closet NAZI...

[Rochard]

LOL. Yesterday it seems like Kushner briefed GOP Senators on his immigration plan which seems to have left them with more questions than answers. Meantime, our entire immigration system is completely backlogged and the Border Patrol is now a taxi service for people claiming asylum.

LOL. Nothing is being accomplished and they are fucking everything up.