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Ukraine special forces capture Russian war criminal (MH17)
Russians thought they could get away with their part in shooting down Malaysia Airlines Flight 1. Ukraine now has the commander who was on the radio talking about shooting down the aircraft..
https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/p...ight-shootdown Ukrainian special forces capture separatist commander suspected in Malaysia Airlines flight shootdown. Ukrainian special operations forces reportedly went behind enemy lines to arrest a former commander of pro-Russian separatists who is suspected of being involved in the shootdown of Malaysia Airlines Flight 17. Ukrainian forces captured Vladimir Tsemach June 27 at his apartment in Snizhne, a city in the self-proclaimed Donetsk People's Republic in eastern Ukraine. Tsemach, 58, is believed to have been the commander of a Russian-backed air defense unit when MH17 was shot down on July 17, 2014. The crash left 283 passengers and 15 crew members dead. A majority of the passengers on the flight, which left Amsterdam for Kuala Lumpur, were Dutch. Tsemach has reportedly been charged with "creating a terrorist group or a terrorist organization." He is in Kiev awaiting trial, according to the BBC. If found guilty, he will face 8 to 15 years in prison. The shootdown of MH17 was one of the most dramatic flashpoints of the conflict between Ukrainian forces and Russian-backed rebels in the eastern provinces of Donetsk and Luhansk, jointly referred to as the Donbass region. Rebels are believed to have shot down the aircraft with a Buk surface-to-air missile that originated from Russia's 53rd Anti-Aircraft Missile Brigade. Investigators found evidence last month that Russia supplied the missile to the rebels. U.S. intelligence confirmed that Russia "created conditions" allowing for the downing but stopped short of directly blaming the country, saying rebels may have accidentally misidentified MH17 as a military aircraft. Russia denies responsibility for the attack. Tsemach's daughter denies he had any direct involvement in the incident, though his military records show he was given the rank of colonel by the so-called ministry of defense of the Donetsk People's Republic on October 23, 2014, after he was already in command of the air defense brigade. There have been no convictions in the downing of MH17, though an international investigation continues. Dutch investigators filed charges in June against Igor Girkin, Sergey Dubinsky, Oleg Pulatov, who they say all have connections to Russian intelligence, and Leonid Kharchenko, a Ukrainian they say is the commander of a Russian-backed unit in Donetsk. The suspects are believed to be in Russian or eastern Ukrainian territory, effectively putting them out of the reach of Western law enforcement. They are not expected to show up for their trial, scheduled for March. Ukrainian and Russian-backed rebel forces have been fighting since 2014. The two sides are in an uneasy stalemate, despite several attempts at a ceasefire. About 13,000 people have died in the conflict thus far.
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Great news!! +1 for the good guys
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Wait till CyberSEO wakes up and tells you no Russian was ever involved in any of this and all the dudes in green uniform bought that in some local clothes store and no one has ever even heard of Putin...
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Yes and they just happened to find guns and anti aircraft BUK systems lying around...
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Actually he is an Ukrainian. He is as much Russian as StefanG and crockett are ;) I told ya that English is an extremely poor language, so an ethnic Russian and a Russian citizen have the same meaning for you. All native Ukrainians are ethnic Russians, but they are not Russian citizens. So let me try to paraphrase it. All the ethic Ukrainians are Ruskies (genetically), but they are not Russians (not citizens of Russian Federation). So I'd correct the title of your post, because it's misleading.
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americans open their mouths about war crimes and have an opinion
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Ah... If some Ukrainian fought for Russia he is Russian, right? How about those Americans that fought for South Vietnam? Are they Vietnamese now? Dude, your stupidity is just amazing... And FYI: that guy fought not for Russia but for personal interests of Putin who is not Russia and does not even represent the country according to the Russian Constitution - he is a impostor.
Wanna sue all war criminals? Start here then: Iran Air Flight 655 - Wikipedia. Also, when Ukrainian army shot down Russian-Israeli civilian aircraft, nobody has been sued as well. How come? So only pro-Russians must be sued? What about American and Ukrainian militaries that committed the same crime? Why do you think they are an exception? You are an idiot ![]() P.S. You guys can't see the full picture. There was a closed war zone. The Ukrainian army knew that rebels have a BUK in that area (they wrote about it in social networks). So what the Ukrainians did? They intentionally guided a civilian aircraft over the BUK's position to test it. They have even sent a jet-fighter escort to simulate a military cargo aircraft convoy. As we all know the provocation was 100% successful for the Ukraine. Do you really think that's not a military crime? Actually the Ukrainians have used the classic American trick. Do you remember that Korean Air Lines Flight 007 which was guided from Alaska over Soviet air defense systems to test their efficiency on Korean civilians? So if somebody here has a right to speak about war crimes, he must be definitely a non-American. Because "America" and "war crimes" are synonyms in dictionaries of any language.
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I was in Ukraine in 2007.. its a shit hole.
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