Jimmy Carter: Trump is an illegitimate President

[RedFred]

Former President Jimmy Carter questioned the legitimacy of Donald Trump's presidency on Thursday, saying he would likely not be in the White House if the Russians did not interfere in the 2016 presidential election.

“I think a full investigation would show that Trump didn’t actually win the election in 2016. He lost the election, and he was put into office because the Russians interfered on his behalf,” the former president, who served between 1977 and 1981, said at a panel hosted by the Carter Center in Leesburg, Va.

Pressed by moderator and historian Jon Meacham on whether he believes Trump is an “illegitimate president,” Carter stared, and then said smiling, “Basically, what I said, I can’t retract.” Carter’s remark drew laughs from the audience and Meacham.

Carter has not been an especially vocal critic of the president, and has sometimes even praised Trump's policies, such as Trump’s decision not to take military action against Iran. The oldest living president and Trump also spoke over the phone in April after Carter wrote to the president about his trade negotiations with China.

During the Thursday event, Carter called for Trump to condemn Russia for their meddling in the election, and said he should “admit that it happened," as the intelligence community has already stated.

Carter’s comment will likely chafe Trump, who has been quick to roast anyone who attempts to undermine his presidency by insinuating that his surprise victory in 2016 was illegitimate.

The president has repeatedly argued, without evidence, that there were millions of illegitimate votes, which helped tip the popular vote in rival Hillary Clinton’s favor during the 2016 election. He said directly after the election that voter fraud was to blame for his losing the popular vote, and maintains that position.

In a recent interview with NBC’s Chuck Todd on “Meet the Press,” Trump said “there were a lot of votes cast [in 2016] that I don’t believe," adding, “There was much illegal voting," he added.

The nearly two-year probe by former special counsel Robert Mueller did not find sufficient evidence that Trump’s campaign colluded with Russian officials to harm Clinton and boost the real estate tycoon's presidential bid. However, the report, which was released in mid-April, laid out in extensive detail how the Kremlin used hacking techniques and disinformation campaigns to try to sway the election Trump's way.

Trump has held strong on his position that the Russians played no part in helping him land in the Oval Office. He has dismissed the idea that Russian interference affected the outcome of the 2016 election, calling it “a hoax,” among other names.

But the president also said in a recent interview that he might not report any election help offered by foreign sources to the FBI in the 2020 election cycle, stoking fresh agitation among Democrats and his fellow Republicans.

And just hours after Carter’s comment, Trump again made light of Russia's meddling attempts. While meeting with Vladimir Putin at the G-20 summit in Japan, Trump turned to the Russian president and said jokingly, "Don't meddle in the election, president. Don't meddle in the election." Putin, after appearing to hear the translation, laughed while Trump grinned.


https://www.politico.com/story/2019/...9PUFuIUcRGKajY

[CaptainHowdy]

File under freedom of speech . . . or splodge.

[Rochard]

He got elected because of help from a foreign advisory. This is treason.

Some people still believe the "no collusion, no obstruction". Bullshit. Bull fucking shit.

The Trump campaign was turning over precise polling information telling the Russians exactly which states, which areas, and exactly which people to target... They were working together hand and in hand. That's collusion. That's election fraud. That's conspiracy to defraud the United States. And it's treason.

No obstruction? Bullshit. There was constant obstruction. By everyone.

[OneHungLo]

Originally Posted by Rochard

He got elected because of help from a foreign advisory. This is treason.

Some people still believe the "no collusion, no obstruction". Bullshit. Bull fucking shit.

The Trump campaign was turning over precise polling information telling the Russians exactly which states, which areas, and exactly which people to target... They were working together hand and in hand. That's collusion. That's election fraud. That's conspiracy to defraud the United States. And it's treason.

No obstruction? Bullshit. There was constant obstruction. By everyone.

^^ this reads like some dumb shit on The Onion.

[huey]

Russians voted?

[crockett]

Republicans are traitors to this country and our Constitution.

[2MuchMark]

Originally Posted by crockett

Republicans are traitors to this country and our Constitution.

[crockett]

For the record Carter is saying exact samething I've said here for the last 2 years.

Trump won the electoral college because of illegality gerrymandered states controlled by Republicans.


If those states were not illegally gerrymandered he would not have won. That is 100% fact. Not to mention he took help from Russian and the GOP has been taking in foreign money.


Republicans stole the 2000 election and they stole the 2016 election.

[RedFred]

Originally Posted by crockett

For the record Carter is saying exact samething I've said here for the last 2 years.

Trump won the electoral college because of illegality gerrymandered states controlled by Republicans.


If those states were not illegally gerrymandered he would not have won. That is 100% fact. Not to mention he took help from Russian and the GOP has been taking in foreign money.


Republicans stole the 2000 election and they stole the 2016 election.

Like old pals, Trump, Putin make light of election meddling


Trump jokes to Putin they should 'get rid' of journalists


Rigged election: Donald Trump won every surprise swing state by the same 1% margin

[Diomed]

Do you guys have any idea how pathetic you look and what kind of damage your doing to your party?

Why don't you guys go throw that lady who said trump asexually raped her in a dressing room with all her clothes on, on the front page of the New Yorker magazine..

Oh wait, you did.

Any more desperate chatter from the utterly dishonest can't look themselves in the mirror crew?

[MFCT]

RedFred, first of all, congrats on being quick at the draw and posting this story before Bladewire had the chance to. This is the kind of story he would have been all over. But like the old saying goes, you snooze you lose.

I agree with Carter and believe Trump needs to be investigated for collusion with Russia. I think Robert Mueller did a great job before. And I believe he would be the most qualified person on earth to investigate this matter as well.

[grzepa]

In the eyes of a foreigner not living in the US, president Trump appears like a total douchebag and redneck.

[Diomed]

He's a New Yorker which is the polar opposite of red neck.

He knows how to piss useless people off wonderfully.

If you find him offensive you are a gross human being with a poor sense of humor and taste.

[RedFred]

I find people that welch on bets to be offensive and a gross human.

[bronco67]

When he was elected I thought it should have been annulled immediately. We're living a in an alternate reality right now.

[bronco67]

Originally Posted by Diomed

He's a New Yorker which is the polar opposite of red neck.

He knows how to piss useless people off wonderfully.

If you find him offensive you are a gross human being with a poor sense of humor and taste.

He's a fucking moron and so are you for admiring such a dirtbag.

Sense of humor? The president should be representing our country with dignity and respect. Instead he acts like a clown, alienates our allies and suck the nuts of dictators and totalitarians. You're a fucking tool.

[2MuchMark]

Originally Posted by RedFred

I find people that welch on bets to be offensive and a gross human.

[Diomed]

Originally Posted by bronco67

He's a fucking moron and so are you for admiring such a dirtbag.

Sense of humor? The president should be representing our country with dignity and respect. Instead he acts like a clown, alienates our allies and suck the nuts of dictators and totalitarians. You're a fucking tool.

Billionaire "moron" president of the United States..

See, this is where that personal dishonesty kicks in.. You would rather have a faux president who feigns regality like Obama, who keeps up the pretense while changing nothing.

The United States, and the world for that matter... Are waking up to the front of empty institutions.

We don't want or desire the bullshit anymore. The same thing you are remarking on is exactly why he got elected to begin with. A wrench in the spoke of "the status quo".

How you guys can't see Trumps biggest accomplishment, only shows where your personal growth is at. If he does nothing else but then to shine a light on how the media in this country herds its cattle, and expose just how empty our institutions are in terms of caring for the welfare of their citizenry.. I'm happy.

Don't let the irony of AOCs faux photo shoot at the gates of the border go unnoticed. You guys have cities of homeless in your own back yard, but that won't stop you from pumping out that same old pretense, and getting outraged at the loss of "dignity" to the presidency.

Don't pretend why you don't understand Trumps position on democrats and the "alienation". You guys start smearing shit on your face while sucking your tongue and twirling your hair, and we aren't supposed to ignore you?