Obamacare in trouble again - GoFuckYourself.com

kane · 07-10-2019, 12:29 PM

In Texas a judge ruled that since Obamacare no longer has the individual mandate (it was repealed in Trump's tax cut bill) it no longer collects taxes therefore it is unconstitutional. Yesterday the case was heard before an appeals court and while there hasn't been a ruling yet (and may not be for a while) experts suggest that the court is leaning towards siding with the Texas judge.

If so, that would likely put Obamacare back in front of the Supreme Court right in the middle of next year's election.
https://www.cbsnews.com/news/obamaca...onstitutional/

If Trump and the Republicans get what they want, we will really find out just how popular Obamacare is or is not.

I, for one, only hope that whatever version we end up with still allows me to get insurance with a preexisting condition.

Vendzilla · 07-10-2019, 12:33 PM

Trump has made it clear he wants the existing conditions covered. I pay for healthcare for my wife and I, add to that I can use the VA.

Got a good deal considering all the high prices out there, joined in with a group that gets a better rate

crockett · 07-10-2019, 12:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Vendzilla

Trump has made it clear he wants the existing conditions covered. I pay for healthcare for my wife and I, add to that I can use the VA.

Got a good deal considering all the high prices out there, joined in with a group that gets a better rate

Trump has done nothing to replace Obamacare, he only has attacked it because Obama did it.

Trump lies everyday and you believe every word. You being an idiot will cost tens of thousands of people their lives because they will lose their access to heath care. You are the typical piece of shit saying I got mine fuck everyone else..

kane · 07-10-2019, 12:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Vendzilla

Trump has made it clear he wants the existing conditions covered. I pay for healthcare for my wife and I, add to that I can use the VA.

Got a good deal considering all the high prices out there, joined in with a group that gets a better rate

He says that, but both of the plans the Republicans voted on and didn't pass would have made it a lot harder for people with preexisting conditions to afford the coverage. I'll believe him when I actually see it. It's not like he lies or anything.

Vendzilla · 07-10-2019, 12:44 PM

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Originally Posted by kane

He says that, but both of the plans the Republicans voted on and didn't pass would have made it a lot harder for people with preexisting conditions to afford the coverage. I'll believe him when I actually see it. It's not like he lies or anything.

Been nothing but lies with Obamacare, or the PPACA as I learned is the actual name for it. Had to read a lot of it, it really is bad. O had to understand a lot of it to get my license to sell health and life insurance. I stayed away from health insurance. Too many questions from clients and no money in it for an agent. I don't sell either now, new adventure has been going on for a year and I'm enjoying it, be doing this till I retire

beerptrol · 07-10-2019, 12:50 PM

Trump and the republicans are liars. They don't want preexisting conditions covered. Look at their actions.

kane · 07-10-2019, 01:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Vendzilla

Been nothing but lies with Obamacare, or the PPACA as I learned is the actual name for it. Had to read a lot of it, it really is bad. O had to understand a lot of it to get my license to sell health and life insurance. I stayed away from health insurance. Too many questions from clients and no money in it for an agent. I don't sell either now, new adventure has been going on for a year and I'm enjoying it, be doing this till I retire

I'm not saying Obamacare is perfect. It is far from and has problems. That said, right now I can buy health insurance and not go bankrupt doing so. When the dust settles around all this, no matter what we end up with, I hope I can still do the same.

2MuchMark · 07-10-2019, 01:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Vendzilla

Been nothing but lies with Obamacare

Really? Lies are where YOU draw the line? LOL! The man who's ass you'd lovingly lick lies dozens of times a day, and you yourself have been caught red-handed lying to GFY'ers TWICE recently. Shut the fuck up with your bullshit already.

Vendzilla · 07-10-2019, 01:35 PM

The PPACA did a lot of damage, but hope we can get back to basics

Just saw on the news Trump signed a directive about Kidney care, I know he mentioned work on an over haul of healthcare insurance a little while ago, the man stays busy

crockett · 07-10-2019, 02:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Vendzilla

Been nothing but lies with Obamacare, or the PPACA as I learned is the actual name for it. Had to read a lot of it, it really is bad. O had to understand a lot of it to get my license to sell health and life insurance. I stayed away from health insurance. Too many questions from clients and no money in it for an agent. I don't sell either now, new adventure has been going on for a year and I'm enjoying it, be doing this till I retire

You of all people talking about lies. You were one of the idiots here on GFY that was claiming Obamacare was gonna have death panels..

Yea we have death panels all right, it's called the GOP because they refuse to work in the best interests of Americans and instead allow tens of thousands to die every year because they have no access to basic heathcare and preventable illnesses.

TheSquealer · 07-10-2019, 02:18 PM

Obama Care is awesome!
- No Doctor Ever

kane · 07-10-2019, 02:34 PM

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Originally Posted by TheSquealer

Obama Care is awesome!
- No Doctor Ever

Actually not true at all.

https://www.latimes.com/science/scie...125-story.html

TheSquealer · 07-10-2019, 04:28 PM

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Originally Posted by kane

Actually not true at all.

https://www.latimes.com/science/scie...125-story.html

so... the vast majority of them were unhappy Obama Care and wanted it changed.... according to the survey the ultra far left LA Times cites?

kane · 07-10-2019, 04:49 PM

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so... the vast majority of them were unhappy Obama Care and wanted it changed.... according to the survey the ultra far left LA Times cites?

Did you read it?

It says "the opening months of 2015, 48% of primary care physicians had a favorable opinion of the Affordable Care Act and 52% viewed it unfavorably.

It also says, "Among the survey's most striking findings was strong support for an extension of the Affordable Care Act that is absent from any GOP proposals: Two-thirds of primary care physicians endorsed the idea that any healthcare reform should include a public insurance option resembling Medicare that would compete with private plans."

So, you know, about half of doctors like it and two thirds of them think there should be a public option that directly competes with private insurance. In short, a lot more doctors than none (your words) like it.

GAMEFINEST · 07-10-2019, 05:36 PM

here we go again

Robbie · 07-10-2019, 09:47 PM

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Originally Posted by kane

That said, right now I can buy health insurance and not go bankrupt doing so.

We are now paying over $1,700 a month for a really good insurance plan I've had for the last 17 years.
Before ObamaCare it was less than $500 a month.

And we are all in good health.

ObamaCare has been a money pit for my family.

BaldBastard · 07-11-2019, 05:59 AM

Trump backtracks on drug rebate rule in major blow to pricing effort

https://www.foxbusiness.com/healthca...pricing-effort

Vendzilla · 07-11-2019, 07:35 AM

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Originally Posted by Robbie

We are now paying over $1,700 a month for a really good insurance plan I've had for the last 17 years.
Before ObamaCare it was less than $500 a month.

And we are all in good health.

ObamaCare has been a money pit for my family.

It's all the little things that will kill you!

07-10-2019, 12:29 PM	#1
kane Too lazy to set a custom title Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: portland, OR Posts: 20,684	Obamacare in trouble again In Texas a judge ruled that since Obamacare no longer has the individual mandate (it was repealed in Trump's tax cut bill) it no longer collects taxes therefore it is unconstitutional. Yesterday the case was heard before an appeals court and while there hasn't been a ruling yet (and may not be for a while) experts suggest that the court is leaning towards siding with the Texas judge. If so, that would likely put Obamacare back in front of the Supreme Court right in the middle of next year's election. https://www.cbsnews.com/news/obamaca...onstitutional/ If Trump and the Republicans get what they want, we will really find out just how popular Obamacare is or is not. I, for one, only hope that whatever version we end up with still allows me to get insurance with a preexisting condition.

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Vendzilla Biker Gnome Industry Role: Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: cell#324 Posts: 23,202	Trump has made it clear he wants the existing conditions covered. I pay for healthcare for my wife and I, add to that I can use the VA. Got a good deal considering all the high prices out there, joined in with a group that gets a better rate __________________ Webair died? Carbon is not the problem, it makes up 0.041% of our atmosphere , 95% of that is from Volcanos and decomposing plants and stuff. So people in the US are responsible for 13% of the carbon in the atmosphere which 95% is not from Humans, like cars and trucks and stuff and they want to spend trillions to fix it while Solar Panel plants are powered by coal plants think about that

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beerptrol Confirmed Asshole Industry Role: Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Half way between sobriety and fubar. Posts: 12,722	Trump and the republicans are liars. They don't want preexisting conditions covered. Look at their actions. __________________ “If we are to have another contest in the near future of our national existence, I predict that the dividing line will not be Mason and Dixon's but between patriotism and intelligence on the one side, and superstition, ambition and ignorance on the other.” -- Ulysses S. Grant

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Vendzilla Biker Gnome Industry Role: Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: cell#324 Posts: 23,202	The PPACA did a lot of damage, but hope we can get back to basics Just saw on the news Trump signed a directive about Kidney care, I know he mentioned work on an over haul of healthcare insurance a little while ago, the man stays busy __________________ Webair died? Carbon is not the problem, it makes up 0.041% of our atmosphere , 95% of that is from Volcanos and decomposing plants and stuff. So people in the US are responsible for 13% of the carbon in the atmosphere which 95% is not from Humans, like cars and trucks and stuff and they want to spend trillions to fix it while Solar Panel plants are powered by coal plants think about that

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TheSquealer BANNED Industry Role: Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: In Your Head Posts: 23,884	Obama Care is awesome! - No Doctor Ever __________________ Yes, fewer illegal immigrants working equates to more job opportunities for American citizens. Rochard

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GAMEFINEST Make STACK$ Industry Role: Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: sexy time Posts: 14,380	here we go again __________________ Compound interest.

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BaldBastard Too lazy to set a custom title Industry Role: Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Sydney Posts: 15,384	Trump backtracks on drug rebate rule in major blow to pricing effort https://www.foxbusiness.com/healthca...pricing-effort