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Old 09-25-2019, 11:45 AM   #1
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Match.com being investigated by FTC

https://www.foxbusiness.com/industrials/ftc-lawsuit-match-com-fake-ads-tinder

Compared to some sites in the adult dating realm, Match is a saint.
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Old 09-25-2019, 12:11 PM   #2
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Compared to some sites in the adult dating realm, Match is a saint.
, but all combined don't make as much as Match.com
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, but all combined don't make as much as Match.com
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Match Group, the owner of OKCupid, Tinder and PlentyOfFish, for allegedly enticing people to pay for its Match.com service using fake love interest ads, along with other allegedly deceptive business practices.
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I read a lot of complaints on ripoff report about dating sites, mostly people signing up for trials and being charged for a whole year. The small print or terms aren’t read and then they complain about it.
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I read a lot of complaints on ripoff report about dating sites, mostly people signing up for trials and being charged for a whole year. The small print or terms aren’t read and then they complain about it.
In many cases. even if you read the small print and terms, they make it almost impossible to cancel. Some of the programs, you have to call them, and they are on the other side of the world, so the hours are completely different. And even if you do get a hold of them, they will do things like say you can have another 2 weeks or so free, not knowing that you also signed up for a hidden pre-checked cross sell, which doesn't get cancelled and you get rebilled for it.


And then there's the female members....or complete lack thereof. When you post a blank profile, with no info and no pictures, the messages start flowing in within seconds from female members that are supposedly interested in you.

Another trick...in the small print, you may find things like, your 3 day trial must be cancelled within 2 days, or will be rebilled for $xx. They get away with it, because if you cancel after 2 days, you still get access for a full 3 days. You will usually find this info somewhere around the 1,000 word mark in the Terms & Conditions....ie...buried.

So basically, they are selling a product that doesn't exist, for an amount that is much greater than what appears to be the advertised price. It may seem legit, but really not even a step above any other boiler room scam.
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Match Group, the owner of OKCupid, Tinder and PlentyOfFish, for allegedly enticing people to pay for its Match.com service using fake love interest ads, along with other allegedly deceptive business practices.
https://www.cnn.com/2019/09/25/tech/...ued/index.html
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Yes and no. AdultFriendFinder has real members (personal experience), clear billing practices, and is generally a stand-up site.
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Yes and no. AdultFriendFinder has real members (personal experience), clear billing practices, and is generally a stand-up site.


AFF is one of the worst offenders.
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AFF is one of the worst offenders.
Experience would indicate different. Care to share?
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Experience would indicate different. Care to share?
How about some the lawsuits against them, and the obvious fake profiles?
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Criticism where criticism is due...however your facts are wrong. AdultFriendFinder is a US firm who operates and pays out of the US. There was a class action suit, true. However that was due to a hacking and data breach. And there are plenty of real members, that I can guarantee. Sure, some escorts and whatnot will get their profiles on there... But the real looking people are in fact real. Seems that when most people complain it's because they send a message to somebody really hot and don't get a response. Fact is, if you couldn't pick this person up offline, there's no reason why they're going to be interested in you online.
This wasn't supposed to become a AdultFriendFinder fan club post. but the dishonest activities of so many of the other dating sites makes AdultFriendFinder a rarity in this industry
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Criticism where criticism is due...however your facts are wrong. AdultFriendFinder is a US firm who operates and pays out of the US. There was a class action suit, true. However that was due to a hacking and data breach. And there are plenty of real members, that I can guarantee. Sure, some escorts and whatnot will get their profiles on there... But the real looking people are in fact real. Seems that when most people complain it's because they send a message to somebody really hot and don't get a response. Fact is, if you couldn't pick this person up offline, there's no reason why they're going to be interested in you online.
This wasn't supposed to become a AdultFriendFinder fan club post. but the dishonest activities of so many of the other dating sites makes AdultFriendFinder a rarity in this industry
Shut the fuck up surfer. The majority of their profiles are fake - Lars even spoke out about it
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Shut the fuck up surfer. The majority of their profiles are fake - Lars even spoke out about it
Uh huh. I may be a lot of things in this industry, but a surfer is not one of them. Perhaps you are mistaken and think this is a Fox News forum, where you can just make random shit up.
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Uh huh. I may be a lot of things in this industry, but a surfer is not one of them. Perhaps you are mistaken and think this is a Fox News forum, where you can just make random shit up.

The only one making things up here are you
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The only one making things up here are you
First thing to consider when trying to spread fake facts. If your facts can be debunked with a simple mouse click, might be better to stay quiet...or, said another way... better to have people think you a fool than to open your mouth and prove it....or...perhaps something more natural for you...would you like fries with that.
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First thing to consider when trying to spread fake facts. If your facts can be debunked with a simple mouse click, might be better to stay quiet...or, said another way... better to have people think you a fool than to open your mouth and prove it....or...perhaps something more natural for you...would you like fries with that.
Yeah, because Kate, Aria, Tory and Heather all made those 10.000's profile themself.

They were one of the first dating-companies to set up automation, and their first two functions were to:
1 - bate people to upgrade from "free" to "premium" membership, by having their fake profiles write to the new members.
2 - when someone canceled their trial or were close to it, they would have a fake profile write to them, so have them pay to reactivate the profile.


Ho to ANY blachhat forums and you find people controlling +100.000 profiles and selling different services around that ecosystem

You need to be gullible to the extreem, if you think even 20% of the profiles are real


If you go to https://adultfriendfinder.com and press "browse" - at least 15% of the pictures are from known pornstars that have no knowledge of having a profile there.


There is a good reason Lars paid a lot of money to have topics deleted from GFY back then, and when he sold his nick and it got renamed to Xenophage
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Yeah, because Kate, Aria, Tory and Heather all made those 10.000's profile themself.

They were one of the first dating-companies to set up automation, and their first two functions were to:
1 - bate people to upgrade from "free" to "premium" membership, by having their fake profiles write to the new members.
2 - when someone canceled their trial or were close to it, they would have a fake profile write to them, so have them pay to reactivate the profile.


Ho to ANY blachhat forums and you find people controlling +100.000 profiles and selling different services around that ecosystem

You need to be gullible to the extreem, if you think even 20% of the profiles are real


If you go to https://adultfriendfinder.com and press "browse" - at least 15% of the pictures are from known pornstars that have no knowledge of having a profile there.


There is a good reason Lars paid a lot of money to have topics deleted from GFY back then, and when he sold his nick and it got renamed to Xenophage
Thanks for asking. Yes, I would like fries with that.
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And then there's the female members....or complete lack thereof. When you post a blank profile, with no info and no pictures, the messages start flowing in within seconds from female members that are supposedly interested in you.
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That's the oldest trick in the book. I was doing that decades ago with fake ads in magazines. I think I may have gotten 1 real female every 6 months or perhaps per year. But we wrote each sucker that sent us 10 bucks pllus a S.A.S.E a personalized letter from a broad that wanted him
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AFF has moved the needle on legitimacy. They don't send out fake contacts. They do send out emails periodically listing new people on the site...real people who look like real people and are real people.
Where they really beat the others is in their billing. You pay exactly what you think you are paying and you can cancel, and your account actually gets cancelled. And no cross sells. Don't know a single other adult dating site that can say the same.
Promoting the other sites, you might as well be sending emails announcing an inheritance from a rich relative from Kenya.
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AFF has moved the needle on legitimacy. They don't send out fake contacts. They do send out emails periodically listing new people on the site...real people who look like real people and are real people.
Where they really beat the others is in their billing. You pay exactly what you think you are paying and you can cancel, and your account actually gets cancelled. And no cross sells. Don't know a single other adult dating site that can say the same.
Promoting the other sites, you might as well be sending emails announcing an inheritance from a rich relative from Kenya.
you are so naive its cute. "AFF has moved the needle on legitimacy." where do you come up with this shit? They have been funding the warez/stolen-content sites forever + the majority of their profiles are fake. They even had to make a statement here about it (Dont recall if it was Lars or someone else)
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you are so naive its cute. "AFF has moved the needle on legitimacy." where do you come up with this shit? They have been funding the warez/stolen-content sites forever + the majority of their profiles are fake. They even had to make a statement here about it (Dont recall if it was Lars or someone else)
Still waiting for my fries.
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Still waiting for my fries.
Why dont you come back when you have talked to Ira Rothken - face-2-face...
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And this was when they were involved in malware:
https://gfy.com/fucking-around-and-b...statement.html

(Xenophage) is the old account of Lars
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(Xenophage) is the old account of Lars
13 years ago. That's what you have? Could you put a little bit of ketchup on those fries. Thanks.
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you are so naive its cute. "AFF has moved the needle on legitimacy." where do you come up with this shit? They have been funding the warez/stolen-content sites forever + the majority of their profiles are fake. They even had to make a statement here about it (Dont recall if it was Lars or someone else)
He's obviously a shill for AFF.

Anyone with a brain knows 100% of all dating sites, adult or non-adult, are filled with fake profiles designed to entice gullible horny/lonely dudes with disposable income. Are there "real" profiles on there? Sure but the "hot" girls? LOL They do not exist for real on these sites. (Hot girls don't need a fucking app to get a date.)
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He's obviously a shill for AFF.

Anyone with a brain knows 100% of all dating sites, adult or non-adult, are filled with fake profiles designed to entice gullible horny/lonely dudes with disposable income. Are there "real" profiles on there? Sure but the "hot" girls? LOL They do not exist for real on these sites. (Hot girls don't need a fucking app to get a date.)
And yet, while you post on here complaining, I bet you don't think twice about promoting the other programs which openly steal the surfers money.

PS... Sounds like you fit into my example at the start of this thread. Hot girls on the sites do exist. They're probably just not answering you. Goes back to the fact that if they wouldn't date you offline, they're not going to date you online either.
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We do not create fake profiles or bots like many of the other players in adult/mainstream dating. Since we have been around since 1996 we are a target for scammers, but have large in house team who's only job each day is to clear out those profiles. We get as many as we can, but can only do so much. If people do not report the ones we miss how are we supposed to know?

One of our largest complaints is the ratio of men to women. Yes we do have far more men than women, but that is to be expected when you run a legit adult dating site.
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We do not create fake profiles or bots like many of the other players in adult/mainstream dating. Since we have been around since 1996 we are a target for scammers, but have large in house team who's only job each day is to clear out those profiles. We get as many as we can, but can only do so much. If people do not report the ones we miss how are we supposed to know?

One of our largest complaints is the ratio of men to women. Yes we do have far more men than women, but that is to be expected when you run a legit adult dating site.

I think you are mistaken me for for some newbie. Your statement should have started with "to my knowledge we dont...."

Your in house team could start with your promo-material because the HUMAN-SELECTED profiles are created by yourself.. you forget that people know the providers of the content you need to have license for.
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And yet, while you post on here complaining, I bet you don't think twice about promoting the other programs which openly steal the surfers money.
It's 10+ years since i have promoted anything - I run my own company
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I think you are mistaken me for for some newbie. Your statement should have started with "to my knowledge we dont...."

Your in house team could start with your promo-material because the HUMAN-SELECTED profiles are created by yourself.. you forget that people know the providers of the content you need to have license for.
Promotional material, and profiles in the site are two separate things. Most of our members do not want their image plastered all over the web for advertisements.
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Promotional material, and profiles in the site are two separate things. Most of our members do not want their image plastered all over the web for advertisements.
So the staff no longer use the ‘View As’ function to log as selected fake profiles?
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So the staff no longer use the ‘View As’ function to log as selected fake profiles?
No idea what you are talking about dude. I've been here almost 8 years.

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Old 10-04-2019, 12:14 PM   #41
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No idea what you are talking about dude. I've been here almost 8 years.

Hope you have a swell weekend though.
Dear Courtney - you work in marketing (since 2012)

Just so you know, the 2015 dataleak from your database, included one datavalue that gave away the type of account.. its visible in the screenshot below. This is a old screenshot of the leaked data: (not mine)




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He's obviously a shill for AFF.
What's the money like being a shill?

I'm just thinking that if I'm going to be online I might as well make a couple of bucks doing it.
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What's the money like being a shill?

I'm just thinking that if I'm going to be online I might as well make a couple of bucks doing it.
It pays well...but being an affiliate pays even better.
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It pays well...but being an affiliate pays even better.
But being an affiliate sounds like something I would have to devote a lot of time to doing. However being a shill I can do while posting on social media.
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When you post a blank profile, with no info and no pictures, the messages start flowing in within seconds from female members that are supposedly interested in you.
Yes, this sounds 100% TopOffers sites, you just have to look and realize that small % are real members.
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And yet, while you post on here complaining, I bet you don't think twice about promoting the other programs which openly steal the surfers money.

PS... Sounds like you fit into my example at the start of this thread. Hot girls on the sites do exist. They're probably just not answering you. Goes back to the fact that if they wouldn't date you offline, they're not going to date you online either.
Yah ok. Go eat some poutine dude. You are probably in Montreal, work for AFF and have a beard and wear plaid.

Anyone telling anyone dating sites are real, there are chicks on there willing to fuck strangers for free, is assuming you are a newbie idiot. But thanks for the propaganda from you and Courtney. LOL
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I dont care about the rest at least Shes REAL
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