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10-30-2019, 06:48 PM | #1 |
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Any companies looking for 4k EXCLUSIVE SHOOTING
I've invested in some new camera equipment for indie films, but would like to get back into shooting some fetish vids for a few clients .
Movies shot with Black magic Pocket Cinema Camera and photos videos with Panasonic gh5. I've shot a ton of solo girl sites and thousands of videos ( mostly JOI, twerk,lapdance,HJ) my content is used in a ton of tube site banners and ads. past websites, I created from ground up and sold.. badgirl bucks, She devil dollars and College girl cash SO if you a re looking to build a bunch of niche sites, quickly and under budget...send me an email..I'll set up Skype and ICQ again and post number in this thread. https://icq.im/448831053
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What you shoot with is secondary. It's all down to how and what you shoot. The positive thing about tubes is few buy porn blind, they will look for the free videos on tubes before buying or not buying. So it has to be good.
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Companies on here still sell my content in their girl-next door packages even though that stuff is over a decade old. So my stuff has some shelf life.
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Thank you candyflip..love ya brother
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I went all in on the Blackmagic stuff years ago. I've got a few Pocket 4K and one Pocket 6K that seem to be carrying the work load at the moment. Such amazing little machines for the cost.
I've got a nice little collection of 6 BMD cameras. I still use them all and don't plan to get rid of any of the ones I currently have. |
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1) Is the theme, setting, model, and direction of the model. 2) Possibly lighting. 3) Camera. 4K is pointless if 1 and 2 are wrong. Pointless for amateur, so is lighting so long as the shooter knows how to light an amateur set. POV, gonzo also does not require 4K. For top class work 4K is essential after you've got 1 and 2 mastered. |
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Why the hell wouldn't you shoot in 4k today? Even if it's meant to be really amateur, at the very least you can scale it back.
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Amateur needs to have a sense of reality to make it look amateur.
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I see good some work here which requires 4K so no worries with that. Is it the sun giving you the great back and hair light and did you use a reflector, flash or strobe to fill in the front light?
Then I see poor lighting and colour balance where 4K isn't going to make it any better. Are your videos of a similar quality? |
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Well amateur is pretty ambiguous. Shit, any decent phone can shoot good video. Shit iPhone 4 has 1080p and that was in 2010. So shooting "amateur in 4k" isn't really out of the norm. I think when you think of "amateur" you're thinking grainy VHS.
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Exactly what I was saying.
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If you need to watch a Youtube video to know the lighting and colour balance is wrong, you shouldn't be shooting with a 4K camera.
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Shooting profitable content has evolved since the move to Tubes.
It should be something that's more interesting than what 10,000s of free videos show. A girl on a bed doing sex isn't as easy to convince many people to pay for, or "fall in love with". Whether it's shot on a phone or 4K. |
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these vids are older. SD and HD...I can shoot with whatever the clients request. I just thought a high end client would want 4k videos. As for STYLE and IDEAS...I have started several hot niches that never really existed until I started shooting it 2007---Lapdance, ass grinding, JOI and brat content. I also perfected the solo girl program w/out giving 1/2 to the model or being under the models' whim. People make money with my content.
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[QUOTE=badgirlfilms;22554708]these vids are older. SD and HD...I can shoot with whatever the clients request. I just thought a high end client would want 4k videos. As for STYLE and IDEAS...I have started several hot niches that never really existed until I started shooting it 2007---Lapdance, ass grinding, JOI and brat content. I also perfected the solo girl program w/out giving 1/2 to the model or being under the models' whim. People make money with my content.
With all due respect and much as I like your work, I gotta call time here. There is not a prayer you started these "niches". I was shooting lapdance and ass grinding in 1999. I did solo girls way back when and I didn't pay them anywhere near fifty per cent. I have no idea where you are going with this because I did it ten years before you. Not just me either and I made huge amounts of money with this content. |
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Paul, there are many benefits to shooting at resolutions higher than 1080p that have nothing to do with the image quality. You would know this if you had any experience at all with shooting some of these newer codecs on the cameras in question.
With regards to this topic, you’re not even close to being knowledgeable. Your advice is irrelevant in 2019. |
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yeah and quality is less important than content or subject, i.e. fetish covered.
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correct, more options down the line. you can always scale it back after capture but after capture you are locked in to a product. BTW the difference between pro and am is sometimes lens angle as well as lighting.
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For Paul. I picked this article specifically because it's almost 5 years old now. If you're not shooting your video on at least 4K, you're behind the curve at this point. But you wouldn't know that.
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I see only one model shoot in your samples that will be improved by shooting it on 4K. Reducing the quality of 4K on amateur does nothing to improve it and there is no secondary market for amateur, that's the appeal of amateur. |
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Amateur needs to be shot clearly and with a reasonable colour balance. A decent camera and proper lighting will do far more than 4K provides. All RAW film data is reduced when edited or converted. What are the benefits to shooting 4K in today's market. Will the customer pay or buy more to justify the extra investment if he only wants a level that does not need 4K? Can the shooter produce a level that insists on the best quality and can he sell it? We have seen 3D, VR and now 4k make no difference to sales, a billion surfers happy to get their porn for free on tubes, unless you're hoping for a new market to open up that requires only 4K to emerge. |
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100% of people viewing porn are interested in the model, the niche, the way it's shot, lighting, audio, scenario, etc. Less important is the quality of the camera because if you get the first thing wrong you'll never improve it with 4K. Do you shoot unique, interesting, different, main niche porn? Such as Met-Art level or do you shoot for ATK level? Shooting both requires 4k, shooting the latter does not. PM me a link to your site so I can see if you have to have 4K? |
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badgirlfilms: you should be thankfull that Paul is here to tell you how to run your business --- lol... apart from you generating more revenue in one year, than he did in a lifetime.
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No one gets an erection because it's 4K. That's down to what'sin the content. With 99.9% of porn consumers interested in not paying for porn, will accept a Tube video if it's free, the amount of reduction required from the camera to broadcast, the need to spend money on better lighting, audio, locations, models, camera is the less important thing. If you have the money to spend go ahead and spend it, but don't expect it to boost sales unless everything else is right. |
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Paul, why are you incapable of just saying, “You know what, I really don’t have a clue what I’m taking about.”?
Because you’ve added nothing of relevance to this discussion. You only derailed it and still refuse to accept the fact that in 2019 you don’t have a fucking clue. When you say things like “if all this isn’t right...4K is wasted” we all know that you don’t know what you’re talking about. Why is it that you can’t just admit it? Shooting 4K in 2019 is where we are at. That is the minimum standard. End of story. |
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I forgot the most important thing about shooting quality, for me it goes without saying and I'm amazed no one here has said it so far. The lens. https://www.google.com/search?sxsrf=...39.Mquy1nDIf4c
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Paul I work for corporate clients and shoot independent shorts and features. Regardless of the content, shooting 4K is the bare minimum anyone who shoots video for money is using in 2019. None of that stuff even comes into play if you aren’t shooting 4K. In a day where the average smartphone is capable of low bit rate 4K, this is what clients are expecting. When clients are expecting it, consumers start to as well.
None of what you are saying has any relevance if you’re shooting video content in 2019 on outdated HD cameras. The fact that you don’t get this one simple caveat and will continue to expound here as if you know what you’re talking about because you shot PHOTOS for PRINT decades ago when is nothing more than laughable. Which is typically what you bring to this board. Someone who says asinine shit and gets laughs from the crowd. If you want to see what I’ve been working on the past two years, get a job at McDonald’s or Facebook and as a new hire you’ll be able to see. |
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A Guide to Choosing a Professional 4K Camera Although anyone can own a professional 4K camcorder, the equipment is best left to the hands of the pros. It is designed for a specific purpose, after all, and using it accordingly can make a huge difference. While consumer cameras are designed with a home-user in mind, a professional camera is intended for someone who uses it as a tool to generate income or produce high quality videos. It is what you need when you want videos with uncompromising quality. Construction-wise, professional camcorders tend to have everything bigger and better. It is generally larger in size, with larger video sensors and lenses. It also comes with interchangeable lenses, wireless microphones and other features necessary to record excellent videos. When it comes to price, expect pro cameras to be on the pricey side. The more expensive it is the more features and technologies you get to play with. Within the $2,500 and $5,500 price range, for example, you can choose from a wide range of cameras that not only meets specialty production needs, but also solid all-around recording requirements. Cameras in this price range are likely to have image stabilization, 1/3-inch CMOS sensor, detachable handle, 64GB internal flash memory, and slow and fast speed settings. But because price is not the only determining factor to consider, choosing a professional 4K camcorder must be done with careful consideration of various factors. Your Skill Level Someone may be considered a pro, but still a long way away from the likes of the big names in the production industry. Although there’s no stopping you from buying the more advanced equipment, you should seriously reconsider your skill levels. Professional camcorders are built for specific skill levels, and using the right one can spell the difference between a good and bad investment. If you fall under the entry and intermediate skill level, choose a 4K camcorder that will produce excellent videos and provide professional-quality audio. A good example is the FDR-AX100 from Sony. It not only lets you capture 4K videos, but also in Full HD 1920×1080 video in XAVC-S, AVCHD, web-optimized MP4, and other recording options. You can take cinematic shots and take advantage of Optical SteadyShot image stabilization, NFC support, built-in WiFi and 12x optical zoom lens. When you are in the advanced level, look for a product that lets you record true 4K resolution video at up to 50 and 60 fps. If you are still transitioning to 4K, there is also a device that will help you do this with ease. It is just a matter of understanding how a device will match your skill level. https://epfilms.tv/top-10-profession...pro-camcoders/ Mind you for $5,500 a 4K won't break the bank, but will it improve a bad video? But don't forget to add the cost of a good lens https://www.parkcameras.com/c/2605/c...50&mx=8699&v=0 A lot cheaper than when you had to spend £30,000 for Beta cam. Like I did. |
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Then show us your site with samples, list in order of importance what makes great porn. You're trying to say the camera is the most important thing, I'm saying it's down the list after the other things I've listed. Do you shoot for Private, Met-Art, level porn level. If you're shooting for large corporations we're not talking about shooting porn for porn companies who require a different level of skills, price, equipment, crew etc. A smart phone doesn't even have a proper zoom lens. PHOTOS for PRINT absolutely required the best lighting, focus, setting, poses, etc. But what the fuck would you know about PHOTOS for PRINT? |
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I’m not saying camera is most important. I make my living doing this. I’m not an idiot. Porn put me through film school.
But in 2019, if you’re not shooting on a 4K camera, you are behind the curve and you are not servicing clients capable of paying your bills. Capturing on 4K is the minimum requirement for content creation of any type in 2019. THIS IS WHAT YOU SEEM TO REFUSE TO ACCEPT. Lighting isn’t important if no one is hiring you, because your gear is not up to standards. You can buy a 4K Cinema Camera for $1300. I don’t know anything about photos for print, so you don’t see me trying to pretend to be knowledgeable on the subject...like you seem to be doing with regards to video content in 2019. Again, you don’t get it. If you’re not shooting on 4K cameras in 2019...no one is hiring you...so nothing you you continue to babble on about matters. Sorry. You don’t know what you’re talking about. |
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I hope this doesn't turn into a 5 pager on having to explain why you should use a 4k camera if you're shooting content today.
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2 pages seems more like it. He hasn’t responded, so either he’s given up, he’s gone to sleep (early) for the night or he’s dead. I’m guessing he’ll be back to continue telling us that shooting 4K video is 2019 is a waste.
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What you shoot with is secondary. It's all down to how and what you shoot. The positive thing about tubes is few buy porn blind, they will look for the free videos on tubes before buying or not buying. So it has to be good. You're disputing that how and what you shoot with comes second to using a cheap camera with a cheap lens. So we disagree on two point, what's secondary and don't use cheap equipment. Still waiting for your website and samples of your work. Would showing them expose the stupidity of your post? |
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Candyflip has had a good hand in derailing it. He thinks the most important thing is to use a cheap 4K camera. I think that reflects on his work. Any clown knows lighting, lens and audio is more important. If he shows his work we'll see what he knows.
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