anyone from Poland here?

[Grapesoda]

question: do you have any thoughts why there are 2 Galicia's? One being in Poland and the other a northern Provence of Spain? just curious if you have a 'folk tales' about that... thanks

[celandina]

You do not need a Pole od Spaniard to solve your question, just a bit of knowledge of history:

Both Galicias are bastardized English term for:

1) Old Latin description of a Celtic tribe Gallaecii living in that part of Spain during the Roman expansion in the last century BC.

2) Also an old Latin term of a tribe which lived there under Magyars called Kaliz which then become " slavonized" to Halicz or Galicz and other similar names. The historians are not 100 % in agreement on the history of this section of Poland/Ukraine and how the name originated. Some suggest old Tracian tribe called Galeis who moved in the late Iron Age.

[Grapesoda]

Originally Posted by celandina

You do not need a Pole od Spaniard to solve your question, just a bit of knowledge of history:

Both Galicias are bastardized English term for:

1) Old Latin description of a Celtic tribe Gallaecii living in that part of Spain during the Roman expansion in the last century BC.

2) Also an old Latin term of a tribe which lived there under Magyars called Kaliz which then become " slavonized" to Halicz or Galicz and other similar names. The historians are not 100 % in agreement on the history of this section of Poland/Ukraine and how the name originated. Some suggest old Tracian tribe called Galeis who moved in the late Iron Age.

I searched around and found reference to the Magyars. Celts have never been mentioned in association with Magyars.... oddly enough Finnish is a language associated with Magyar. Romans associated peoples by their languages..

no mention here: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Khalyzians
there is evidence of a Celtic tribe in Anatolia https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Galatia

maybe the name drifted from there

By the 4th century BC the Celts had penetrated into the Balkans, coming into contact with the Thracians and Greeks.[5] In 380 BC they fought in the southern regions of Dalmatia (present day Croatia), and rumors circulated around the ancient world that Alexander the Great's father, Philip II of Macedonia had been assassinated by a dagger of Celtic origins.[6][7] Arrian writes that "Celts established on the Ionic coast" were among those who came to meet Alexander the Great during a campaign against the Getae in 335 BC.[8] Several ancient accounts mention that the Celts formed an alliance with Dionysius I of Syracuse who sent them to fight alongside the Macedonians against the Thebans.[9] In 279 BC two Celtic factions united under the leadership of Brennus and began to push southwards from southern Bulgaria towards the Greek states. According to Livy, a sizable force split off from this main group and head toward Asia Minor.[10]

[CurrentlySober]

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[celandina]

Originally Posted by Grapesoda

I searched around and found reference to the Magyars. Celts have never been mentioned in association with Magyars.... oddly enough Finnish is a language associated with Magyar. Romans associated peoples by their languages..

no mention here: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Khalyzians
there is evidence of a Celtic tribe in Anatolia https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Galatia

maybe the name drifted from there

By the 4th century BC the Celts had penetrated into the Balkans, coming into contact with the Thracians and Greeks.[5] In 380 BC they fought in the southern regions of Dalmatia (present day Croatia), and rumors circulated around the ancient world that Alexander the Great's father, Philip II of Macedonia had been assassinated by a dagger of Celtic origins.[6][7] Arrian writes that "Celts established on the Ionic coast" were among those who came to meet Alexander the Great during a campaign against the Getae in 335 BC.[8] Several ancient accounts mention that the Celts formed an alliance with Dionysius I of Syracuse who sent them to fight alongside the Macedonians against the Thebans.[9] In 279 BC two Celtic factions united under the leadership of Brennus and began to push southwards from southern Bulgaria towards the Greek states. According to Livy, a sizable force split off from this main group and head toward Asia Minor.[10]

you have misread my post.. I have referred to Celts ONLY as it related to Spain, NOT Poland. So as to the "Polish Galicia" there is no need trying to find a link to Celts, especially prior to Roman era.

[Grapesoda]

Originally Posted by celandina

you have misread my post.. I have referred to Celts ONLY as it related to Spain, NOT Poland. So as to the "Polish Galicia" there is no need trying to find a link to Celts, especially prior to Roman era.

Im just saying Romans grouped people by language

[k0nr4d]

Originally Posted by Grapesoda

question: do you have any thoughts why there are 2 Galicia's? One being in Poland and the other a northern Provence of Spain? just curious if you have a 'folk tales' about that... thanks

I'm from Poland. Why there are two galicias never really comes up in conversation if i'm honest. The only times i've even heard reference to that region of poland as galicia is when people are trying to sell some "regional homemade product" and make it sound fancier IE https://www.krakowskikredens.pl/

[Grapesoda]

Originally Posted by k0nr4d

I'm from Poland. Why there are two galicias never really comes up in conversation if i'm honest. The only times i've even heard reference to that region of poland as galicia is when people are trying to sell some "regional homemade product" and make it sound fancier IE https://www.krakowskikredens.pl/

that makes sense, in Spain the Galatians have a different language

[NatalieMojoHost]

there's also the city Galați in Romania and a whole other part of Galicia in Ukraine.