Coronavirus Burnout

[HairyChick]

I saw my ENT today. We discussed my one hundred and eighteen day cough and post nasal drip. She jokingly said that it wasn’t the coronavirus. She said they get dozens of patients per day calling or coming in with a cough or stuffy nose and asking if they have the virus.

She put up a poster detailing what the coronavirus is and the symptoms.

People come in without an appointment to ask about the virus yet no one wears a surgical mask or rubber gloves. She said the media is responsible for the fears.

I told her about the news report that the vaccine will take a year of testing before approval. They are doing three month tests now and she said a year is just wishful thinking.

I use sanitizer and CNA and nurses generally use gloves. I’ve begun asking them all to use gloves to be safer. Tomorrow I have another doctor appointment and will ask her about coronavirus and the fears.

[BaldBastard]

Its good your being vigilant with your protection and requesting others to do the same when they're close contact with you.. Keep That Up!!!

Presume everyone has covid19 at this point until they can get a better idea of the situation.

Ounce of prevention pound of cure..

Ask you doctor if there's any indication meds you're will have supply difficulties. Ask if any of the medication your on inhibits your immune system, doesn't mean you stop taking it, but if you were to get sick.. > ASK DOCTOR what you should do with the meds you are on.

Keep safe.

[k0nr4d]

Coronavirus is overblown bullshit. 7000 people died per day on average in 2017 of pneumonia but that wasn't on the news. 3000 elderly die over the course of 2-3 months and the media doesn't talk about anything else.

[Jazzix]

And let's not forget about homeless people starving to death or even poor animals that have to endure living in cages all their life. Yet that's not contagious.

Otherwise it means nothing in human's existence

[wehateporn]

https://www.news.com.au/lifestyle/he...c54e2d2b9305ca

[Klen]

Originally Posted by k0nr4d

Coronavirus is overblown bullshit. 7000 people died per day on average in 2017 of pneumonia but that wasn't on the news. 3000 elderly die over the course of 2-3 months and the media doesn't talk about anything else.

I agree, and i find it really stupid cancelling events due it and causing massive monetary damage.

[funkypigeon]

I think everyone needs to just stay home for 2 weeks and wank.

[k0nr4d]

Originally Posted by Klen

I agree, and i find it really stupid cancelling events due it and causing massive monetary damage.

I dunno, maybe i'm just bored of there not being any other topic on any website other then coronavirus... It's too much.

[BaldBastard]

Originally Posted by k0nr4d

Coronavirus is overblown bullshit. 7000 people died per day on average in 2017 of pneumonia but that wasn't on the news. 3000 elderly die over the course of 2-3 months and the media doesn't talk about anything else.

k0nr4d, your smarter than that, what part of No vaccination, No Immunity, No specific treatments, No containment.. are you not getting?

Death rate for the Flu in the USA is currently 14.9 per 100,000 people
https://www.kff.org/other/state-indi...ia-death-rate/

Coronavirus is slightly higher than that currently: 3,308 per 96,739

The flu has an R0 value of about 1.3
Coronavirus has an R0 value of about 2-3

Because most of us have been exposed to the flu before we have some built in immunity against it, we also know that the virus will be less prevalent in summer months... it fades away.

With Coronavirus its a "New" virus we have no idea what happens in summer IT IS NOT A FLU, we also have NO immunity, There's NO specific treatments, and just like Mers and Sars doubtful there will ever be a vaccine and even if we do have a vaccine on paper.. NO one has the capability of producing it in the quantities needed, let alone the needles and crap to administer it. Today they reported a mutation detected, if its not utilising younger humans now for harvesting it certainly will in a mutation or 3.

All we can do is contain it and try and keep the numbers within range of our hospital systems coping.... but to do that you need to know who has it.

If this thing doesn't burn its self out naturally and it may, we have serious problems as a species.

[HairyChick]

Originally Posted by MrBaldBastard

Its good your being vigilant with your protection and requesting others to do the same when they're close contact with you.. Keep That Up!!!

Presume everyone has covid19 at this point until they can get a better idea of the situation.

Ounce of prevention pound of cure..

Ask you doctor if there's any indication meds you're will have supply difficulties. Ask if any of the medication your on inhibits your immune system, doesn't mean you stop taking it, but if you were to get sick.. > ASK DOCTOR what you should do with the meds you are on.

Keep safe.

Thanks. I’ll ask her today and find out about the meds. My phentanyl patches are the most important med. The others are important but I can live for a while without them. The patches are regulated and you can’t stock up on them.

I’m not looking to catch a new illness. I’d rather be extra careful than get sicker. People laughed and weren’t worried but now that USA residents are dying, they are taking this seriously

[k0nr4d]

Originally Posted by MrBaldBastard

k0nr4d, your smarter than that, what part of No vaccination, No Immunity, No specific treatments, No containment.. are you not getting?

Death rate for the Flu in the USA is currently 14.9 per 100,000 people
https://www.kff.org/other/state-indi...ia-death-rate/

Coronavirus is slightly higher than that currently: 3,308 per 96,739

The flu has an R0 value of about 1.3
Coronavirus has an R0 value of about 2-3

Because most of us have been exposed to the flu before we have some built in immunity against it, we also know that the virus will be less prevalent in summer months... it fades away.

With Coronavirus its a "New" virus we have no idea what happens in summer IT IS NOT A FLU, we also have NO immunity, There's NO specific treatments, and just like Mers and Sars doubtful there will ever be a vaccine and even if we do have a vaccine on paper.. NO one has the capability of producing it in the quantities needed, let alone the needles and crap to administer it. Today they reported a mutation detected, if its not utilising younger humans now for harvesting it certainly will in a mutation or 3.

All we can do is contain it and try and keep the numbers within range of our hospital systems coping.... but to do that you need to know who has it.

If this thing doesn't burn its self out naturally and it may, we have serious problems as a species.

I disagree with the death percentage. It's 3,4% based on deaths vs detected cases. I think that there are thousands upon thousands of un-diagnosed cases, and even if they are doing testing postmortem there are likely still tons of asymptomatic or un-diagnosed mild cases ergo the death % is inflated. If 80% do not require hospitalization (which, realistically again due to asymptomatic or mildness of it, is probably artificially lower), then there is potentially several times the detected cases that just weathered it out at home thinking it was the flu. Hell, myself, wife and kids have had viral pneumonia for the last 2 weeks and we may well have this (we're on the tail end now mostly just coughing).

You are also comparing death rate in USA for influenza vs death rate for Coronavirus in China and Iran - there is a difference in level of care. Regarding mutations, any virus might mutate. There's a different strain of flu every year too.

Given that there are some people are are mild or asymptomatic, there must be SOME immunity to it. I also saw I chart, can't find the link now but it illustrated the spread in countries where it's currently winter vs countries near equator or where it's summer and the spread is substantially lower in countries where it's warmer.

They are going to do quarantines no matter what my opinion of the matter is, but IMHO even if it's deadlier then the flu, it's *vastly* overblown by the media, and I think it will probably stick with us for years to come but burn out a bit when it gets warmer out.

This is just the newest doom porn being pushed by the media. I'm 35, and I can honestly say that I don't recall ANY time in my life where there wasn't some fucking apocalypse looming over my head. 80s was the cold war, 90s was hole in the o-zone layer, 2000s was terrorism, 2010s was war with china or russia, 2020s is going to be plagues. The end of the world has been just around the corner every day of my entire life.

[BaldBastard]

"You are also comparing death rate in USA for influenza vs death rate for Coronavirus in China and Iran - there is a difference in level of care."

So we'd all like to think.. however its not working out that way for the 11 already dead is it yet the US medical system is hardly strained at this point, I bet each patient has numerous specialists in multiple fields looking at them and every bit of equipment available to them.

"Regarding mutations, any virus might mutate. There's a different strain of flu every year too."

No, Its NOT the Flu.. its already reported this has mutated.. @4 months old, so feasibly it could go 2-3 more in 2020.

Coronavirus has mutated into more aggressive disease, say scientists
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/science/...ay-scientists/

I've lived through every other Apocalypse coming as well, this is the only time I've seen no way out just a deteriorating situation until we get over the first surge of it. Best hope we have is that it burns out by itself.

[roy302]

Corona is going dangerous day by day.

[roy302]

and my all planings are ruined because of fucking Coronavirus.

[george MH]

We wish that the world is eager to stop wars,poverty and Hunger crisis like it is in Corona case

[fuzebox]

Originally Posted by MrBaldBastard

the 11 already dead

I mean it hit a nursing home, that's going to skew some numbers.

The quarantined cruise ship is a better real world statistics study: 3700 trapped together in close proximity, 700 infected, 5 dead.

[HairyChick]

The pharmacy delivered one of my meds today. The driver wore a mask and gloves. He said that the coronavirus is the major reason why but colds and the flu are another concern.

Better safe than sorry.

[OneHungLo]

Originally Posted by MrBaldBastard

No, Its NOT the Flu.. its already reported this has mutated.. @4 months old, so feasibly it could go 2-3 more in 2020.

You keep saying this over and over but they are very similar. The are both viruses / infectious respiratory illnesses that are spread the same way, with identical symptoms. The one good thing about corona is it doesn't seem to harm kids where the flu puts a lot of kids in the hospital, even killing some of them.

PS the flu has mutated into 2 strains as well...just like coronavirus.

[OneHungLo]

Originally Posted by k0nr4d

I disagree with the death percentage. It's 3,4% based on deaths vs detected cases. I think that there are thousands upon thousands of un-diagnosed cases, and even if they are doing testing postmortem there are likely still tons of asymptomatic or un-diagnosed mild cases ergo the death % is inflated. If 80% do not require hospitalization (which, realistically again due to asymptomatic or mildness of it, is probably artificially lower), then there is potentially several times the detected cases that just weathered it out at home thinking it was the flu. Hell, myself, wife and kids have had viral pneumonia for the last 2 weeks and we may well have this (we're on the tail end now mostly just coughing).

You are also comparing death rate in USA for influenza vs death rate for Coronavirus in China and Iran - there is a difference in level of care. Regarding mutations, any virus might mutate. There's a different strain of flu every year too.

Given that there are some people are are mild or asymptomatic, there must be SOME immunity to it. I also saw I chart, can't find the link now but it illustrated the spread in countries where it's currently winter vs countries near equator or where it's summer and the spread is substantially lower in countries where it's warmer.

They are going to do quarantines no matter what my opinion of the matter is, but IMHO even if it's deadlier then the flu, it's *vastly* overblown by the media, and I think it will probably stick with us for years to come but burn out a bit when it gets warmer out.

This is just the newest doom porn being pushed by the media. I'm 35, and I can honestly say that I don't recall ANY time in my life where there wasn't some fucking apocalypse looming over my head. 80s was the cold war, 90s was hole in the o-zone layer, 2000s was terrorism, 2010s was war with china or russia, 2020s is going to be plagues. The end of the world has been just around the corner every day of my entire life.

You're right, but windbag Baldy can't have that...you must spread fear and tell everyone we're all going to die! and never disagree with Virologist Baldy!!

[The Porn Nerd]

Originally Posted by MrBaldBastard

k0nr4d, your smarter than that, what part of No vaccination, No Immunity, No specific treatments, No containment.. are you not getting?

Death rate for the Flu in the USA is currently 14.9 per 100,000 people
https://www.kff.org/other/state-indi...ia-death-rate/

Coronavirus is slightly higher than that currently: 3,308 per 96,739

The flu has an R0 value of about 1.3
Coronavirus has an R0 value of about 2-3

Because most of us have been exposed to the flu before we have some built in immunity against it, we also know that the virus will be less prevalent in summer months... it fades away.

With Coronavirus its a "New" virus we have no idea what happens in summer IT IS NOT A FLU, we also have NO immunity, There's NO specific treatments, and just like Mers and Sars doubtful there will ever be a vaccine and even if we do have a vaccine on paper.. NO one has the capability of producing it in the quantities needed, let alone the needles and crap to administer it. Today they reported a mutation detected, if its not utilising younger humans now for harvesting it certainly will in a mutation or 3.

All we can do is contain it and try and keep the numbers within range of our hospital systems coping.... but to do that you need to know who has it.

If this thing doesn't burn its self out naturally and it may, we have serious problems as a species.

Gee you must be fun at parties.

Originally Posted by fuzebox

I mean it hit a nursing home, that's going to skew some numbers.

The quarantined cruise ship is a better real world statistics study: 3700 trapped together in close proximity, 700 infected, 5 dead.

See? I prefer to focus on the 695 that DIDN'T die on that cruise ship. Or the 3000 that DIDN'T get the virus.

Y'all been watching too much of The Walking Dead.

[celandina]

Originally Posted by Klen

I agree, and i find it really stupid cancelling events due it and causing massive monetary damage.

Wrong analogy...Just like:

.... more people die falling down the stairs, then falling down off the face of Mt. Everest

[BaldBastard]

Originally Posted by The Porn Nerd

Gee you must be fun at parties.
See? I prefer to focus on the 695 that DIDN'T die on that cruise ship. Or the 3000 that DIDN'T get the virus.

Y'all been watching too much of The Walking Dead.

Problem is that 695 is now 693 as two more have died and many more are still in icu. Adding to this is the damage done to the lungs which is being seen in patients even with mild symptoms. If they didn't test people and the boat wasn't locked down in quarantine after, then the number of those infected would of been greatly higher.

When it was announced that 5 staff from the Diamond Princess had it in Japan, I think we all realised they were screwed. The boat docked off California .. 19 staff tested positive first tests. "Pence said 21 positive results had been recorded – 19 crew members and two passengers"

https://www.theguardian.com/world/20...ases-confirmed

Could be 19 cooks however I think FoxNews is sure its 19 mechanics, because the boat in Japan was front page news for 3 days, yet the current boats a side story.

[SekobA]

Its human factor cousing this virus.So said insted make love and sex

[celandina]

Originally Posted by k0nr4d

Coronavirus is overblown bullshit. 7000 people died per day on average in 2017 of pneumonia but that wasn't on the news. 3000 elderly die over the course of 2-3 months and the media doesn't talk about anything else.

Your analogy is bogus. It is akin to saying, people should stop fucking because it leads to abortions....

[Pryda]

Originally Posted by k0nr4d

You are also comparing death rate in USA for influenza vs death rate for Coronavirus in China and Iran - there is a difference in level of care.

I have a feeling this post isn't going to age well. Don't overestimate the US.
And the death rate in the US at the moment is already higher than that of Iran and China.
China: 3.8%
Iran: 3%
US: 3.9%
Perhaps US' death rate percentage will drop as the other numbers go up. We'll see.

Source: https://covid19info.live/

[k0nr4d]

Originally Posted by Pryda

I have a feeling this post isn't going to age well. Don't overestimate the US.
And the death rate in the US at the moment is already higher than that of Iran and China.
China: 3.8%
Iran: 3%
US: 3.9%
Perhaps US' death rate percentage will drop as the other numbers go up. We'll see.

Source: https://covid19info.live/

Mortality rate is being represented as a function of confirmed cases vs deaths. You have to keep in mind that there are probably 10x more unconfirmed cases then confirmed. If someone gets it and has mild symptoms, which is 80% of the people apparently (realistically, again - probably FAR more), they weather it out at home and don't even go to a doctor (especially in the US where they might not have insurance or something). If someone weathers it out at home and gets far worse, they go to a hospital (adding 1 to confirmed at that stage) or they die at home and get tested post-mortem (adding 1 to confirmed and 1 to death). If there's an outbreak at a retirement community or a hospice or something, that will also skew the death numbers higher.

https://www.evergreenhealth.com/coronavirus
"1.6% of confirmed cases (confirmed cases representing between 5-10% of all infections in the community) will die"

This suggests a death rate of 0,08% to 0,16%, and this will mostly be the sick or elderly. Almost all the deaths in Italy are over 60.

This isn't to say that hospitals will not be overwhelmed, and we can probably expect to start seeing triage at some point because it does not make sense to use a valuable respirator (valuable in the limited supply sense) on a 90 year old with a heart condition instead of a pregnant woman, or a 16 year old.

The unconfirmed count is WAAAAY higher. 2 people brought it into Poland from Germany. What are the fucking odds, that two people would happen to be in contact with one of the 700 people in germany that have it (out of the 80 million that live there) and happen to bring it back into Poland on a plane and on a bus? Either we won the fucking coronavirus lottery, or the number of ACTUAL infected people in Germany is missing two zeros at the end.