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Old 05-11-2003, 01:05 PM   #1
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Pathetic GFY Spam Attempt

In case anyone didn't catch it, webtrafficconsulting.com has been spamming GFY pretending to be one of their own customers. "Cheeba Filas" has 160 posts, and I think it's safe to say what most of them are about. In this thread he says he doesn't work for or own the company, and that he's just a satisfied customer. He has also casually mentioned negative things about legitimate companies who sell traffic, usually in the same breath as saying how good webtrafficconsulting is.

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Actually I don't own WTC I use them on http://www.AmateurWebTeens.com. If your program is hot I'll talk about it. For example Silver Cash is the hottest webmaster affiliate program around. I like Platinum Bucks too. My favorite PPC is Kanoodle and I like chokers program.

hmm, let's take a look at some of his other posts. These are just from about 15 threads I checked with him in them, notice a pattern.

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get with these guys http://www.webtrafficconsulting.com/ you'll save and have a better experience
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use http://www.webtrafficconsulting.com/ you'll make a lot of paper
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Porn Kings Is the bomb I use http://www.webtrafficconsulting.com/ to get my conversions, I also use Spotbrokers and others. I won't use The Hun anymore although I got the sales my bandwidth was higher then my conversions.
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http://www.webtrafficconsulting.com/

I love these guys there traffic is hot
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http://www.webtrafficconsulting.com/ is hot too
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http://www.webtrafficconsulting.com/ the best!!!
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try these guys http://www.webtrafficconsulting.com/ they work wonders for me. Had really good conversions with them. They hav great Geo traffic also
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Well after using overature and loosing a bundle I started using http://www.webtrafficconsulting.com/ saved money and got the traffic i needed
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http://www.webtrafficconsulting.com/

has the best rates in the industry, and it's all Geo. It does really well never heard any complaints.
So, if would seem that webtrafficconsulting.com has one seriously satisfied customer. hmm, now check out this thread.

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Next 25 webmasters that post something interesting on this thread will each get 1k 100% North American Grade Traffic for free from Web Traffic Consulting, make it interesting. I am board and need something funny to read. You have until April 2nd 1:30am

P.S. funny pictures or great jokes would make me very happy.

Oh I'll select the 25 I like the most on Tuesday
What a fucking joke. In case you're not sure yet, here's the whois info for webtrafficconsulting.com:

Registrant:
Flow Style Records, LLC
1306 S. 15th Street
Philadelphia, Pennsylvania 19146
United States

Registered through: Cheap Domain Registration
(http://www.cheap-domainregistration.com)
Domain Name: WEBTRAFFICCONSULTING.COM
Created on: 20-Mar-03
Expires on: 20-Mar-04
Last Updated on: 27-Mar-03

Administrative Contact:
Filas, Cheeba [email protected]
Flow Style Records, LLC
1306 S. 15th Street
Philadelphia, Pennsylvania 19146
United States
215-463-4731 Fax -- 215-463-4731
Technical Contact:
Filas, Cheeba [email protected]
Flow Style Records, LLC
1306 S. 15th Street
Philadelphia, Pennsylvania 19146
United States
215-463-4731 Fax -- 215-463-4731

Domain servers in listed order:
NS1.CALIFORNIA.NET
NS1.OAKWEB.COM



Sorry asshole, your lame scams aren't going to work here. I reccommend anyone who was considering buying traffic from this guy to seriously consider who you're about to do business with. Legitimate people don't have to resort to bullshit like this, I can't imagine this guy is anything but a complete rip off. Stick with people who are strait forward; choker, spotbrokers, sexzity, etc. If this guy had decent traffic and could retain customers for a second, he wouldn't have to lie on a fucking message board to get your money. So Cheeba Filas, Go Fuck Yourself.
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Old 05-11-2003, 01:07 PM   #2
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Old 05-11-2003, 01:08 PM   #3
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You're just giving the guy more attention and free marketing, especially when you're starting a thread dedicated to him full of links to his traffic broker site. Everyone loves more traffic, you just gave them another source of finding it.
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Old 05-11-2003, 01:09 PM   #4
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Man that's a lot of investigation
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Old 05-11-2003, 01:11 PM   #5
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You're just giving the guy more attention and free marketing, especially when you're starting a thread dedicated to him full of links to his traffic broker site. Everyone loves more traffic, you just gave them another source of finding it.
lol, that's fine, anyone stupid enough to send this guy money after reading this deserves to get ripped off. You know what they say about a fool and his money. I just want to make sure nobody misses this and wastes their money.
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Old 05-11-2003, 01:12 PM   #6
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Man that's a lot of investigation
What can I say, I was bored. This kind of stuff pisses me off, so I figured I'd out him to everyone. :-)
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Old 05-11-2003, 01:12 PM   #7
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matto were you the dude on the dancefloor dancing by yourself like a raver at the pimps and hoes party at the internext convention in january?

dude in you sig looks like him
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Old 05-11-2003, 01:13 PM   #8
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lol, that's fine, anyone stupid enough to send this guy money after reading this deserves to get ripped off. You know what they say about a fool and his money. I just want to make sure nobody misses this and wastes their money.
you didnt really prove anything...
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you didnt really prove anything...
Sure he did. He proved the guy is a lying spammer.
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Old 05-11-2003, 01:15 PM   #10
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you didnt really prove anything...

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Sure he did. He proved the guy is a lying spammer.
lol, exactly.

hmm "FillmoreSlim", 15 posts, registered today, could this be another "satisfied customer" of webtrafficconsultants?
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Old 05-11-2003, 01:18 PM   #11
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another one bites the dust
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Old 05-11-2003, 01:21 PM   #12
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Old 05-11-2003, 01:21 PM   #13
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matto were you the dude on the dancefloor dancing by yourself like a raver at the pimps and hoes party at the internext convention in january?

dude in you sig looks like him
I'm more likely to be the one knocking glowsticks out of motherfuckers' hands and spraying bear repellant on the dance floor.
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Old 05-11-2003, 01:26 PM   #15
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No offense but nobody cares.
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No offense but nobody cares.
We care its important to know who the spammers are and this guy is so busy spamming he dosent answer his e-mails ??

We are in the market for some traffic but we would never buy from this guy now.

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No offense but nobody cares.
personally as a traffic buyer i do care.
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Old 05-12-2003, 03:23 PM   #18
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bump for all the folks who take the weekend off

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Old 05-12-2003, 04:56 PM   #19
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It's still a great service. I'm sure Latore answers his e-mails too. You can ICQ him also if you like or e-mail him. Feel free I own the domain and the Server. So what what's the big deal. I own a lot of domains and some of my buddies use them. Big deal. If you have a program and it's cool I will help you promote it too. God forbid if I help some one. I am sorry I offended you in any way Rich. If this bothers you so much I'll start mentioning one of your cash programs if I promote it. By the way guys' http://wm.mtree.com/webmasters/ has great converting dialer programs I love em. You have to check them out I'm doing 1:170 with them. Really good program I highly recommend it.
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Old 05-12-2003, 04:57 PM   #20
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Old 05-12-2003, 05:08 PM   #21
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Hmm.... I dunno... owning a url and owning a company that uses it aren't always one and the same thing.

If he owns it, and gave some free reign to run their business with it.... then I'd imagine they're friends... in which case, yeah... he'd help him out with some kind words. Everyone does that.

As always though... with anything on GFY, I refuse to say or judge or even presume to know who is right.... I'm just saying, if someone owns the domain name, that doesn't make them the company owner automatically.
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I'm not a real adult industry person, but I play one on TV,
and I recommend webtrafficconsultants.. Why,
Because Cheeba Filas said so.
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Old 05-12-2003, 05:14 PM   #23
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ive known Cheeba for about 3 years, and I have never known him to scam anyone.

If he promotes someone else program that links through his server, whats wrong with that?

I always give props to those that deserve it.


props to Tanker and Rich, for taking in as many cafes in Amsterdam as you did...surprised you remembered where the fuck you were going...lol

cut the guy some slack, is all I'm saying, he's a good guy...
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All I know is Cheeba and Grey Goose don't mix well together!

lol.....When's the next party man!
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Umm, I think spam is a non-issue on GFY anymore. Remember Swoit? How many members do you think they acquired through their blatancy?
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All I know is Cheeba and Grey Goose don't mix well together!

lol.....When's the next party man!
I Just got off the phone with T69 where looking not to do a stripclub this time. Maybe D&B, someone requested Jillians. It will be a lot cheaper and a cool time. LOIE is good too, great pool room and good music too. Somewhere I believe everyone will go. I reallised not everyone likes Strip clubs as much as we do.
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Normally I don't stick my nose in others business, I really don't , but Cheeba dude you need to admit this shit and go on. It has been pretty obvious that you were doing this for some time now. Rich just put the pieces together for everyone. The way you lied that the site was not yours was pretty pathetic on your part. Be a man and stop acting like you are a customer of yourself so you can spam your shit. Just tell people "I sell traffic here is my site". Pretty fucking simple thing to do, instead of playing these stupid childish games. This says a lot about your character man.
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Another thing the way you talk the shit about Choker is good but I found a better source, then you spam your shit. WTF is that about. You sicken me dude. Anybody who talks smack makes me want to puke. What a fucking looser you are. I will make it a point now to spread the word about you. Your traffic is better than mine? I got $5000 cash for you if you can prove it. You put up the same and winner takes all. Put your money where your mouth is fuckwad. I'm waiting
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Yeah mother fucker it's time for you and me to dance. I love the way someone makes a post asking how long it takes for "Choker to set up a order, then you go spam your shit in the thread??? WTF was that dude asking for traffic sources?? No fuckwad he was asking a question about me yet you took the opportunity to spam your shit. This is how you do business?? What a pathetic piece of shit you are.

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Actually choker I like your traffic, It's really good keep up the good work. I wish you offered it to paysites also.
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Actually choker I like your traffic, It's really good keep up the good work. I wish you offered it to paysites also.
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Another thing the way you talk the shit about Choker is good but I found a better source, then you spam your shit. WTF is that about. You sicken me dude. Anybody who talks smack makes me want to puke. What a fucking looser you are. I will make it a point now to spread the word about you. Your traffic is better than mine? I got $5000 cash for you if you can prove it. You put up the same and winner takes all. Put your money where your mouth is fuckwad. I'm waiting
Those types of comments were the main reason I decided to make this thread. Dumb spam is one thing but acting like an impartial customer and saying negative things about your competition is over the line. Good posts Choker, you're exactly right.


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Whoa! You guys really have some issues! Rich, are you SURE Cheeba didn't bang your girlfriend or something?

I mean, it does seem more than just a tad over-the-top to go and create such a long post just because you "discovered" what you believe was some sort of huge "betrayal" by Cheeba... Oh, how proud you must feel... Didn't you think of confronting him directly, in private, about it first? That would have been the honorable thing to do rather that running here to proudly display your 'discovery'. Too many people are prepared to drag anothers name through the mud because they were 'bored' - such poor values... Boy, am I glad I don't do business with you!

If you're so bored, try finding something fun to do with your life - get out from under the computer screen once in a while!

Ever heard of the term "innocent until proven guilty"? (and, no, your whois detail doesn't prove anything - I know of other domains that Cheeba registered and hosts for friends - but I'll be damned if I'll give you those here).

I've personally known Cheeba for some time, have done plenty of business with him, have never been ripped off, and he's always over-delivered. In fact, our business relationship has evolved into a pretty close friendship - anyone who's attended the outings Cheeba and I have organized at Cheerleaders in Philly can vouch for the fact that I really do know him pretty well...!

Rich - because of the way you went about this ( i.e. your wholesale attack on Cheeba without checking any of your facts with him first, and your readiness to just drag his good name through the mire), any and all respsect I had for you has been shattered. It is posts like this that reveal a mans true colors, and this is some serious 'stab in the back' thing you pulled here.

I am, quite frankly, amazed at the restraint Cheeba has shown in his responses here - boy, I would be PISSED!!!!!

Anyway, now you'll probably whine about how I don't have many posts, and how that equates to my opinion being worthless, but, hey, I have better things to do with my life than sit in front of a computer all day every day, looking for something to do (like uncover a 'scandal') because I'm not, well, 'bored'... I feel sorry for anyone who is! I only took the time to visit and post due to my conversation last night with Cheeba, and was, frankly, enraged by what he told me - I just had to read it myself.

I cannot promise a reply to any flames you shoot my way - I may make one IF I have the time, but I certainly won't be 'bored' enough to spend any of my most valuable commodity reading whatever pointless BS you may direct towards me...

I just hope others now have the foresight to realize the kind of person you are, and avoid you at all costs, lest they too are awarded the holier-than-thou dagger to the shoulder blades.

Oh, and re: the Choker issue - I don't know enough about that to make comment, so I won't - some others should also keep their fat mouths shut when they know nothing about what they're talking about.

Some additional thoughts:

1. The title of this thread should be "Pathetic GFY Flame Attempt"...

2. As for your last post - "anything I can do to help" - you're TOO funny...! LOL!!! Do you REALLY want to know what you can do to help???!!! Boy, I'd LOVE to tell you!!!
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Sigh... There's one born every minute...

Considering he's black and I'm white, he lives in the City and I live about 30 miles outside of it, etc, etc, that'd be quite some achievement!

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Sigh... There's one born every minute...

Considering he's black and I'm white, he lives in the City and I live about 30 miles outside of it, etc, etc, that'd be quite some achievement!
what's up cheeba?
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and this is EXACTLY why I hardly ever post here...

BTW - if anyone is up for another Philly area party with me and Cheeba (pr0, adultgames, et al - you game?) see this post:
http://www.gofuckyourself.com/showth...hreadid=133526
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Old 05-13-2003, 09:12 AM   #41
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Thanks, I was looking to buy traffic
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Old 05-13-2003, 09:23 AM   #42
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Sigh... There's one born every minute...
Scammers, you mean? Yes, it's sad.
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Old 05-13-2003, 10:08 AM   #43
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This will be my last post on this thread...

For anyone who actually thinks that Cheeba and me are one and the same, see:

http://www.gofuckyourself.com/showth...hreadid=118170

and

http://www.gofuckyourself.com/showth...hreadid=104782

These are a couple of older posts, in which Cheeba and I are both CLEARLY different individuals...

And, with that said, this case is closed - I've wasted far too much time here already...
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Oh, and re: the Choker issue - I don't know enough about that to make comment, so I won't - some others should also keep their fat mouths shut when they know nothing about what they're talking about.
Here I will spell it out for you my friend:

Cheeba acts like a customer of this webtrafficconsulting and praises their traffic when in fact he owns it. And goes so far as to say his traffic is "cleaner" than mine. I have no problem whatsoever when a customer of mine makes this sort of comment, but when a competitior acting like a customer does it , it pisses me off quite a bit. Anyone having to stoop to this kind of tactic in order to get business is pathetic. This sort of behaviour is one of the main reasons so few people trust traffic brokers.
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Whoa! You guys really have some issues! Rich, are you SURE Cheeba didn't bang your girlfriend or something?

I mean, it does seem more than just a tad over-the-top to go and create such a long post just because you "discovered" what you believe was some sort of huge "betrayal" by Cheeba... Oh, how proud you must feel... Didn't you think of confronting him directly, in private, about it first? That would have been the honorable thing to do rather that running here to proudly display your 'discovery'. Too many people are prepared to drag anothers name through the mud because they were 'bored' - such poor values... Boy, am I glad I don't do business with you!

If you're so bored, try finding something fun to do with your life - get out from under the computer screen once in a while!

Ever heard of the term "innocent until proven guilty"? (and, no, your whois detail doesn't prove anything - I know of other domains that Cheeba registered and hosts for friends - but I'll be damned if I'll give you those here).

I've personally known Cheeba for some time, have done plenty of business with him, have never been ripped off, and he's always over-delivered. In fact, our business relationship has evolved into a pretty close friendship - anyone who's attended the outings Cheeba and I have organized at Cheerleaders in Philly can vouch for the fact that I really do know him pretty well...!

Rich - because of the way you went about this ( i.e. your wholesale attack on Cheeba without checking any of your facts with him first, and your readiness to just drag his good name through the mire), any and all respsect I had for you has been shattered. It is posts like this that reveal a mans true colors, and this is some serious 'stab in the back' thing you pulled here.

I am, quite frankly, amazed at the restraint Cheeba has shown in his responses here - boy, I would be PISSED!!!!!

Anyway, now you'll probably whine about how I don't have many posts, and how that equates to my opinion being worthless, but, hey, I have better things to do with my life than sit in front of a computer all day every day, looking for something to do (like uncover a 'scandal') because I'm not, well, 'bored'... I feel sorry for anyone who is! I only took the time to visit and post due to my conversation last night with Cheeba, and was, frankly, enraged by what he told me - I just had to read it myself.

I cannot promise a reply to any flames you shoot my way - I may make one IF I have the time, but I certainly won't be 'bored' enough to spend any of my most valuable commodity reading whatever pointless BS you may direct towards me...

I just hope others now have the foresight to realize the kind of person you are, and avoid you at all costs, lest they too are awarded the holier-than-thou dagger to the shoulder blades.

Oh, and re: the Choker issue - I don't know enough about that to make comment, so I won't - some others should also keep their fat mouths shut when they know nothing about what they're talking about.

Some additional thoughts:

1. The title of this thread should be "Pathetic GFY Flame Attempt"...

2. As for your last post - "anything I can do to help" - you're TOO funny...! LOL!!! Do you REALLY want to know what you can do to help???!!! Boy, I'd LOVE to tell you!!!
You're sad. Notice everyone who's not friends with him, and/or him in disguise, agrees with me? Including the owner of the board? You're a fucking clown shoe as well, don't blame me because your buddy is a lying sack of shit and now everyone knows it. Don't shoot the messenger, if you're not pulling bs like this you have nothing to worry about. You're amazed Cheeba hasn't responded more? What the fuck's he going to say? It's a cut and dry situation, even he knows it, there's nothing he can say that won't just make it worse. He did try his best to cover his ass, posting as "FillmoreSlim", and now he's posting regularly as that nick. Who wants to bet money than in a month, "FillmoreSlim" either has a brand new traffic brokering site, or is a "big fan" of a new one.
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Old 06-01-2003, 02:19 AM   #49
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Okay, might be stupid (And someone will proberbly call me that now)

But if someone have that great traffic (And so much of it) Why the fuck don't they use it themself. ???

Not saying that the one is a cheater and the other is a laying spammer. Just don't get it.

If I had 1.000.000 uniq users a day, and it's good traffic, then I would for sure send them to some site where I could make some money on them, in stead of selling it to some other webmaster at $0,003 (or whatever) a piece.


Just my 2 cents. (How much traffic can I get for that ?? Hehe
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