Business Which hosting company has LetsEcrypt and plesk and it works?

[blackmonsters]

I used to just click a link in plesk and set up my free SSL certificate for each domain and
they would auto-renew.
But since upgrading to a new server I can't get it to work.
I've asked the server tech and they have not been able to make it work.

This is a dedicated server that I need.

I don't have a problem using c-panel if it works.

PS : Do not respond with Yo mamma!

[Marshal]

I might not want to use cPanel after recent news:
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[sandman!]

Let’s encrypt works perfectly on directadmin and most control panels.

If your looking for a managed solution shoot me a email with your requirements [email protected]

[sandman!]

You can upgrade centos 8 to the new centos , also there are a few projects that are going to work on replacing centos with same features centos has.

Also Cpanel is overpriced and does nothing you can’t do in a different control panel.

Originally Posted by Marshal

I might not want to use cPanel after recent news:
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[blackmonsters]

Originally Posted by Marshal

I might not want to use cPanel after recent news:
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That is interesting indeed.

[blackmonsters]

Originally Posted by sandman!

Let’s encrypt works perfectly on directadmin and most control panels.

If your looking for a managed solution shoot me a email with your requirements [email protected]

I'm looking at you cloud hosting.
I've never used cloud before. Is it suitable for development work?
Meaning, being able to SSH, install extensions etc?
If a development script goes into a loop does it affect other people's website or is
it isolated?

[sandman!]

It’s isolated yes you are limited in resources.

Can be used for development , we use centos 8 with directadmin you can get ssh access and we can install whatever php extensions you need.

If you click on the live chat button on the site we can chat and I can answer any questions you might have.

Originally Posted by blackmonsters

I'm looking at you cloud hosting.
I've never used cloud before. Is it suitable for development work?
Meaning, being able to SSH, install extensions etc?
If a development script goes into a loop does it affect other people's website or is
it isolated?

[Marshal]

Originally Posted by sandman!

You can upgrade centos 8 to the new centos , also there are a few projects that are going to work on replacing centos with same features centos has.

Also Cpanel is overpriced and does nothing you can’t do in a different control panel.

I agree with you about cPanel, but let’s not forget the fact that this is still the most used admin panel.

Not sure if you read the article, but CentOS Stream will basically be “the development branch”, which is basically beta, and that means “unstable”. CentOS gained its reputation due to being very stable. Stream will basically be what “Edge” version of CentOS used to be back in the day.

Since CentOS was abandoned by its creator in 2008. I believe, the community took over the project. Due to the lack of resources (probably a lack of developers), RedHat basically acquired it in 2014. and kept developing the community version. CentOS is the same thing as RedHat RHEL without paid support.

So by moving to CentOS Stream their plans are obviously to use community support to cut down on development costs and to convert more of the CentOS users to paid RedHat RHEL users ($349/y or $799/y as lowest plans). Not going to make any assumptions on why they did it, buy you have to know that developing an OS is a very expensive operation.

So, if nothing changes, maybe the future of CentOS as we know it could get jeopardized. One of the reasons is that even if somebody (community) takes over the development of free stable CentOS as it is now, there might be a problem of resources. Free work on projects by the community is something that demands extra time (time=costs) and a big question might be will there be enough programmers to support further development at a reasonable pace.

If things stay with current decisions and CentOS loses traction, there might be 2 viable solutions for current users:
1. Move to paid RHEL,
2. Move to a different distribution.
Using Stream edition is a highly unlikely option for production site owners in the years to come.

Anyway, to be able to understand the issue better, you need to get familiar with the history of CentOS:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/CentOS

What we can hope is that either the CentOS petition makes any difference, or CentOS keeps enough support by the community so the development keeps going on on the stable version for free. For now lets try to stay optimistic.

[sandman!]

I will wait to see how this plays out in nov next year if centos is still on this path will figure out next OS to use there a few decent choices out there , hell might even go back to FreeBSD

Originally Posted by Marshal

I agree with you about cPanel, but let’s not forget the fact that this is still the most used admin panel.

Not sure if you read the article, but CentOS Stream will basically be “the development branch”, which is basically beta, and that means “unstable”. CentOS gained its reputation due to being very stable. Stream will basically be what “Edge” version of CentOS used to be back in the day.

Since CentOS was abandoned by its creator in 2008. I believe, the community took over the project. Due to the lack of resources (probably a lack of developers), RedHat basically acquired it in 2014. and kept developing the community version. CentOS is the same thing as RedHat RHEL without paid support.

So by moving to CentOS Stream their plans are obviously to use community support to cut down on development costs and to convert more of the CentOS users to paid RedHat RHEL users ($349/y or $799/y as lowest plans). Not going to make any assumptions on why they did it, buy you have to know that developing an OS is a very expensive operation.

So, if nothing changes, maybe the future of CentOS as we know it could get jeopardized. One of the reasons is that even if somebody (community) takes over the development of free stable CentOS as it is now, there might be a problem of resources. Free work on projects by the community is something that demands extra time (time=costs) and a big question might be will there be enough programmers to support further development at a reasonable pace.

If things stay with current decisions and CentOS loses traction, there might be 2 viable solutions for current users:
1. Move to paid RHEL,
2. Move to a different distribution.
Using Stream edition is a highly unlikely option for production site owners in the years to come.

Anyway, to be able to understand the issue better, you need to get familiar with the history of CentOS:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/CentOS

What we can hope is that either the CentOS petition makes any difference, or CentOS keeps enough support by the community so the development keeps going on on the stable version for free. For now lets try to stay optimistic.

[Marshal]

Originally Posted by blackmonsters

I'm looking at you cloud hosting.
I've never used cloud before. Is it suitable for development work?
Meaning, being able to SSH, install extensions etc?
If a development script goes into a loop does it affect other people's website or is
it isolated?

Go try Digital Ocean and see it for yourself for free.
Here’s my referral code that will get you $100 for free: Digital Ocean coupon.

Been using Digital Ocean since very beginning. All the VPS instances are isolated within the virtual machine, so it’s impossible to hog on server resources and affect other instances (called droplets) on the server.

No need to mention incredibly fast disks (probably a huge SSD or NVMe arrays). Digital Ocean is a pleasure to use over years having in mind their stability, reliability and speed. One of very few VPS providers I would recommend.

I thought more web developers are acustomed to setting up their own system environment, and I’m really surprised to see people actually using managed hosting, having in mind that there’s just too many free OS and admin panel solutions. Administration of a server basically comes down to logging in like once a week and updating system packages, which is basically a 2 minute work.

In case of production sites, I give my vote to hosting companies and using managed hosting, especially if you are not skilled enough with system administration.

If your project is a more serious one and you need 24/7 control over your operation, I would go with an inhouse sysadmin, which is an expensive option but gives you a total comfort.

Virtualization techology has evolved enough more than a few years ago so there’s practically no difference between owning a physical or virtual server. There’s even more benefits of going virtual, like much bigger speeds and redundancy. However, the costs of using a VPS over a bare metal servers are still higher for reasons unknown to me, while in fact there’s a significant resource savings for the hosting company.

[Marshal]

Originally Posted by sandman!

I will wait to see how this plays out in nov next year if centos is still on this path will figure out next OS to use there a few decent choices out there , hell might even go back to FreeBSD

Sounds as a good idea to wait. I really hope RedHat time will drop this idea and keeps the development for free. If nothing changes in that area, Debian (even Ubuntu) with their decently long LTS support periods seems as an equality good alternative. I come from a different background, but I wouldn’t really recommend FreeBSD nowadays due to not too much community support. Ubuntu made its success as being most documented server OS in years. Pretty much any issue that you could experience was already experience by somebody else and the solution documented. Try to combine CentOS with nginx and use two or more different php-fpm versions and you will end up with some undocumented issues, since there lack of solutions for free, unless you are using their paid support. Well, FreeBSD is even less documented than that.

From what I can see is that RedHat is trying to cut down on costs of beta testing while trying to innovate. Most big software companies cut down on their Q&A teams since few years ago, which backfired in quite a few situations (remember multiple Windows updates that failed?). RedHat is probably trying to stay competitive and replace proper software testing by community reports.

One thing that boggles my mind is what is there to be innovated on a server OS? Kernel and hardware support is written by Linus and community around him, web servers as well as databases are written by 3rd parties, no new system utility applications being invented in years, so to put things together - nowadays a Linux OS comes down to a “wrapper” integrating all those tools together and providing proper infrastructure for repositories (and paid support).

If they stay with this decision, they will convert part of their users to paid RHEL plan, while losing community support and the market share as being the most used server Linux OS. I could be very wrong and I honestly wish I am.

[The Porn Nerd]

Originally Posted by blackmonsters

PS : Please respond with Yo mamma!

Fixed it for ya.

Yo mamma!

[Ferus]

Originally Posted by Marshal

One thing that boggles my mind is what is there to be innovated on a server OS?

Security, Storage, appstraction, performance optimization, management just to say a few... It's like when people say Windows server is just a OS like the desktop version because they share the same kernel

[Ferus]

Originally Posted by sandman!

It’s isolated yes you are limited in resources.

Can be used for development , we use centos 8 with directadmin you can get ssh access and we can install whatever php extensions you need.

If you click on the live chat button on the site we can chat and I can answer any questions you might have.

What cpanel do you recommend to people coming from using centos/Plesk? moving to Ubuntu server or RHEL?

[pornguy]

Hit up Vacares and see if they can do it for you. They are amazing and accommodating.

[CurrentlySober]

Originally Posted by blackmonsters

PS : Do not respond with Yo mamma!

OK... So... 'I like poo' instead?

[blackmonsters]

Originally Posted by CurrentlySober

OK... So... 'I like poo' instead?

Seriously man,

Why go totally off theme rather than simply saying

Yo mamma!

like poo.

[sandman!]

Cpanel is overpriced don’t recommend it , there is nothing wrong with still using centos 8 they don’t plan on stopping support for it for another year and those plans might change still a year is a long time.

I will probably be migrating centos 8 vms to the new free version of cloudlinux os assuming centos does what they are saying they will do.

A lot can change in a year tho for now everything will run the way it runs.

Originally Posted by Ferus

What cpanel do you recommend to people coming from using centos/Plesk? moving to Ubuntu server or RHEL?

[ruff]

This thread is giving me a headache. Too much to think about and I'm not good at thinking anymore.

[NatalieMojoHost]

If you get any managed server or VPS with MojoHost, our team will set up automatic LetsEncrypt renewals for you regardless of what control panel you choose to use.

[CurrentlySober]

Originally Posted by blackmonsters

Seriously man,

Why go totally off theme rather than simply saying

Yo mamma!

like poo.

coz i cunt a4d Yo mamma!...

[blackmonsters]

Originally Posted by ruff

This thread is giving me a headache. Too much to think about and I'm not good at thinking anymore.

They are all worth thinking about.
I'm thinking too.
All look real good too.

[Nitzer Ebb]

I used Vest CP and it has letsincrypt that works.

[EddyTheDog]

I second VACares - I am sure Sly will do you a good deal - Their tech is great and will get everything running 100%...

[VRPdommy]

1st I would say that the reason your let's encrypt problem should be found before you move on.

I'll bet it's something simple like nameserver records or domain records have a issue.
If they can not be properly verified, you will never get a certificate. That's kinda what it's all about.

But you should figure it out. You may carry the same issue whatever you try next.