CDC: No Masks if Vaccinated

[Rochard]

The CDC says masks are no longer required in the US indoors and outdoors...

https://www.npr.org/2021/05/13/99658...m_term=nprnews

[Matyko]

Sounds nice! Let's see when they announce open-air festivals for this summer, that is what matters to me.

[Ferus]

I think its good its not "required" by law, even when its a good thing to have it on because the vaccine is not 100% safe, and everybody isn't vaccinated yet. People can still wear them to protect the society, but those that don't have much money, can save a few bucks.... Fewer confrontations around public places as well.

Personally, I will use the mask until most have been vaccinated, because I dont have a problem with it.

[ruff]

I won't be taking my mask off any time soon. There are still a lot of fucktards that aren't vaccinated. I'm turning Japanese.

[Rochard]

Originally Posted by ruff

I won't be taking my mask off any time soon. There are still a lot of fucktards that aren't vaccinated. I'm turning Japanese.

I don't plan on making any changes... I don't spend much time shopping in stores any more, and don't eat in restaurants.

[CaptainHowdy]

Originally Posted by ruff

I won't be taking my mask off any time soon. There are still a lot of fucktards that aren't vaccinated. I'm turning Japanese.

. . .

[Tasty1]

I think it is time for revolution when this will be the standard and they expect younger people also to get the vaccine, cause else they are cancelled from society. Younger people have less risk having corona, than vaccinated old people who are many times in bad shape. In Holland 1 women younger than 30 died. Forcing them to take an experimental vaccine is disgusting. I would stop wearing mask now also when young. Fuck it, giving up a hwole year, and if that isn't enough try to get an experimental vaccin while there is less than 1 in a million you die when a young woman.

And hardly anyone got infected outside. You must have a friend that speaks with consumption to get it outside.

[Scott McD]

I'm done with fucking masks.

And getting my 1st vaccine tomorrow which to be honest i'm not exactly thrilled about.









Fuck China...

[CurrentlySober]

We stop needing them on the 21st July apparently...

https://www.birminghammail.co.uk/new...ncing-20585503

Until they change their minds again in a few days time...

[CurrentlySober]

Originally Posted by Scott McD

And getting my 1st vaccine tomorrow which to be honest i'm not exactly thrilled about.

Pfizer ?

[baddog]

How are people going to prove they are vaccinated and who's enforcing it?

[Rochard]

Originally Posted by Tasty1

I think it is time for revolution when this will be the standard and they expect younger people also to get the vaccine, cause else they are cancelled from society. Younger people have less risk having corona, than vaccinated old people who are many times in bad shape. In Holland 1 women younger than 30 died. Forcing them to take an experimental vaccine is disgusting. I would stop wearing mask now also when young. Fuck it, giving up a hwole year, and if that isn't enough try to get an experimental vaccin while there is less than 1 in a million you die when a young woman.

And hardly anyone got infected outside. You must have a friend that speaks with consumption to get it outside.

I don't know where you live; I believe you are not in the US. I am not sure how your schools do things but here in the US children are required to have certain vaccines before they are cleared to attend school. Generally speaking it's not an issue.

[RyuLion]

Originally Posted by baddog

How are people going to prove they are vaccinated and who's enforcing it?

Google Covid Passport.

[ruff]

Originally Posted by Scott McD

I'm done with fucking masks.

And getting my 1st vaccine tomorrow which to be honest i'm not exactly thrilled about.


Fuck China...

Better safe than sorry. You sure as hell don't want to risk covid, especially with all the varients coming out of India.

[The Porn Nerd]

Fuck the CDC at this point. I can't make head nor tails of what the fuck they recommend one minute then reverse another.

I am not taking my mask off until 2050.

[Tasty1]

Originally Posted by Rochard

I don't know where you live; I believe you are not in the US. I am not sure how your schools do things but here in the US children are required to have certain vaccines before they are cleared to attend school. Generally speaking it's not an issue.

They wanted to do that with measels in Holland, but didn't succeed. Why would you vaccinate children with 0,00000000001% risk. Better wait a few years when they are old enough to decide. Maybe have children first (1 woman younger than 30 died in Holland, a change of 1 in a million). They don't need the experimantal vaccine now. Let the elderly get them, that is the risk group.

[NatalieK]

how stupid, some vaccines need a 3rd shot 9 months later and the vaccines are only good for stopping you have the virus, not passing the virus on. A new strain will be in the US sooner than later

[Pink24]

Originally Posted by ruff

Better safe than sorry. You sure as hell don't want to risk covid, especially with all the varients coming out of India.

Vaccines won't protract you against variants.

[Scott McD]

Originally Posted by CurrentlySober

Pfizer ?

Won't know until i go for it in a few hours...

[Scott McD]

Originally Posted by ruff

Better safe than sorry. You sure as hell don't want to risk covid, especially with all the varients coming out of India.

Yet the UK refuses to ban flights from India...

[k0nr4d]

Originally Posted by ruff

Better safe than sorry. You sure as hell don't want to risk covid, especially with all the varients coming out of India.

Which the vaccines have proven ineffective against?

I am absolutely not getting vaccinated. I am vaccinated against pretty much everything, but I chose not to take part in this I'm not going to be wearing masks either, because they don't do anything.

[k0nr4d]

Originally Posted by NatalieK

how stupid, some vaccines need a 3rd shot 9 months later and the vaccines are only good for stopping you have the virus, not passing the virus on. A new strain will be in the US sooner than later

And then you'll have to take another vaccine, and another, and another, and another. It will never end. Pfizer projects 26 billion usd profit for 2021

[JSWENSON]

Originally Posted by k0nr4d

Which the vaccines have proven ineffective against?

I am absolutely not getting vaccinated. I am vaccinated against pretty much everything, but I chose not to take part in this I'm not going to be wearing masks either, because they don't do anything.

The fact that you are so dumb is amazing.

[Matyko]

Originally Posted by Scott McD

Won't know until i go for it in a few hours...

here in my shithole country we can pick from many vaccines - or need to wait for the preferred one. but when your doc calls / emails you, you are told in advance what you are getting / what you can choose from.
we also have an online system: if you register, you can schedule a date and time and pick the vaccine you want.

we also have neat covid cards w QR code [I posted mine in another relevant thread] which has all the info about your vaccines / dates, etc

[klinton]

Originally Posted by k0nr4d

Which the vaccines have proven ineffective against?

I am absolutely not getting vaccinated. I am vaccinated against pretty much everything, but I chose not to take part in this I'm not going to be wearing masks either, because they don't do anything.

:thum bsup

[klinton]

Originally Posted by Tasty1

I think it is time for revolution when this will be the standard and they expect younger people also to get the vaccine, cause else they are cancelled from society. Younger people have less risk having corona, than vaccinated old people who are many times in bad shape. In Holland 1 women younger than 30 died. Forcing them to take an experimental vaccine is disgusting. I would stop wearing mask now also when young. Fuck it, giving up a hwole year, and if that isn't enough try to get an experimental vaccin while there is less than 1 in a million you die when a young woman.

And hardly anyone got infected outside. You must have a friend that speaks with consumption to get it outside.

Why "allow" young people to get natural immunity if you can make money by selling vaccines? every year for a mutating virus?
and also weaken their own immune system by taking this shit...

Everyone knows that mother's milk is unhealthy. Babes should drink milk from Nestle!
Hey, all major scientists (paid by Nestle) confirm that and it was on CNN!

[klinton]

Originally Posted by JSWENSON

The fact that you are so dumb is amazing.

exactly, but the thing is that its about you...

i lowered myself to your level of argument

[newB]

Originally Posted by Pink24

Vaccines won't protract you against variants.

Except for all the variants we've seen to date. But yeah, that's the concern: a possible variant down the road that is so structurally dissimilar that it evades detection.

That is why it is so important to shut it down now, to stop it's spread and thereby prevent further mutations. Never going to happen, though. Too many anti-vaxxers and people spreading misinformation. See quote above.

[k0nr4d]

Originally Posted by newB

That is why it is so important to shut it down now, to stop it's spread and thereby prevent further mutations. Never going to happen, though. Too many anti-vaxxers and people spreading misinformation. See quote above.

They are never going to "stop" covid with vaccinations like this. They would have to manufacture and store 15 billion doses, distribute them and vaccinate literally everyone at once otherwise the virus will just keep mutating to escape immunity. You can vaccinate yourself all you want, it is going to make absolutely no difference in 6 months.

There is too much money to be made here, they will sell you a vaccine every 6 months. And if you think you aren't paying for it because the government is paying for it - remember that the government has no money of it's own - they have tax payer's money.

Also i'm not anti-vax. I am vaccinated for everything, so are my kids. I am just choosing not to take part in this medical experiment.

Fun fact - read your life insurance policy if you have one. Covid vaccines are considered medical experiments and are approved for emergency use - and your life insurance policy will almost certainly exclude medical experiments. If you die from it, or anything that your insurance can even try to argue is vaccine related (so pretty much anything other then an accident) your family won't get anything without a year long court battle.

[k0nr4d]

Originally Posted by newB

Except for all the variants we've seen to date.

https://www.webmd.com/vaccines/covid...frican-variant

https://www.forbes.com/sites/william...h=2ec46da75888

[newB]

Originally Posted by k0nr4d

https://www.webmd.com/vaccines/covid...frican-variant

https://www.forbes.com/sites/william...h=2ec46da75888

Sorry, I'm American and tend to think in terms of the Pfizer and Moderna vaccines. And as your article points out, though less effective, the Pfizer and Moderna vaccines are still effective. Meaning they still mitigate symptoms and slow transmission.

[k0nr4d]

Originally Posted by newB

Sorry, I'm American and tend to think in terms of the Pfizer and Moderna vaccines. And as your article points out, though less effective, the Pfizer and Moderna vaccines are still effective. Meaning they still mitigate symptoms and slow transmission.

Maybe, maybe not. The control groups for the vaccines were also 80-90% uninfected... who knows. The problem is that the virus will just mutate to escape immunity from the pfizer vaccine too. If you want to get vaccinated, I have no problem with that - but even you must fight the whole idea of vaccination passports or segregation based on vaccine status. If you accept it, you are defacto accepting any and all future vaccines. Maybe this one is ok, but maybe the next one won't be.

[newB]

Originally Posted by k0nr4d

Maybe, maybe not. The control groups for the vaccines were also 80-90% uninfected... who knows. The problem is that the virus will just mutate to escape immunity from the pfizer vaccine too. If you want to get vaccinated, I have no problem with that - but even you must fight the whole idea of vaccination passports or segregation based on vaccine status. If you accept it, you are defacto accepting any and all future vaccines. Maybe this one is ok, but maybe the next one won't be.

But that's a 2nd discussion altogether.

I think we're arguing the same point. IF we could get closer to 100% vaccination, we could stop the spread and reasonable concern for variants. But that's not going to happen. Which I think is the whole point of lifting the mask mandates. We can't just wait for everyone to get on board, because some won't no matter what.

But the 'we can't stop it so why bother' position is the exact opposite of a solution.

They faced the same opposition to the smallpox vaccine and we eradicated that, so there's still hope.

[Tasty1]

Originally Posted by newB

They faced the same opposition to the smallpox vaccine and we eradicated that, so there's still hope.

If you got the smallpox, there was a 35% change dying from it. In all age groups, not mostly old weak people. When everyone around start dropping dead, i am sure more people choose a vaccin.

[klinton]

Originally Posted by newB

But that's a 2nd discussion altogether.

I think we're arguing the same point. IF we could get closer to 100% vaccination, we could stop the spread and reasonable concern for variants. But that's not going to happen. Which I think is the whole point of lifting the mask mandates. We can't just wait for everyone to get on board, because some won't no matter what.

But the 'we can't stop it so why bother' position is the exact opposite of a solution.

They faced the same opposition to the smallpox vaccine and we eradicated that, so there's still hope.

why do you "care" about unvaccinated people, if you are vaccinated by yourself?
according to your logic, you are "safe", so why you care about them?
its their business what they do with themselves, not yours.

[vdbucks]

Originally Posted by Rochard

I don't plan on making any changes... I don't spend much time shopping in stores any more, and don't eat in restaurants.

If you're 'vaccinated' then what are you so afraid of?

[blackmonsters]

Originally Posted by JSWENSON

The fact that you are so dumb is amazing.

You've been on this board long enough to not be amazed by that.

[klinton]

[newB]

Originally Posted by klinton

why do you "care" about unvaccinated people, if you are vaccinated by yourself?
according to your logic, you are "safe", so why you care about them?
its their business what they do with themselves, not yours.

You want variants? Because this is how you get variants!
(Seriously, that point is all up in there - how could you possibly miss it?)

My caring for the safety and well-being of others is why I got vaccinated.

I could ask why you don't care, but frankly I don't care.

[Tasty1]

Originally Posted by newB

You want variants? Because this is how you get variants!
(Seriously, that point is all up in there - how could you possibly miss it?)

My caring for the safety and well-being of others is why I got vaccinated.

I could ask why you don't care, but frankly I don't care.

Vaccinated people still can get it, spread it and mutate it. The will recognize your vaccin. I only see messages popping up that it is party time now that people are vaccinated and don't have to worry. So mutants are coming from everywhere.

[blackmonsters]

Originally Posted by vdbucks

If you're 'vaccinated' then what are you so afraid of?

Having the vaccine only helps you fight the virus when you get exposed to it; it doesn't lash out into the air and kill the virus around you before you breath it in.
Therefore you can still breath in the virus and then spread it to other people.

[candyflip]

I'm not wearing a mask any longer and I'm not vaccinated.

[klinton]

Originally Posted by newB

I could ask why you don't care, but frankly I don't care.

I don't care because until I'm healthy, I don't care.
And I do all to be normal/ healthy.

I don't plan to live in fear, I live normally like always.

Fuck, could i expect that this one mosquito that bite me back then in Carribean had dengue virus? Nope I did not, I lived normally without fear obsession.
I catched it, got well after 2 days. Was weak afterwards for around 10 days.

Illness is a part of life, getting well too.

And no, new variants appear regardless of vaccinations.

ps. I would be scared of something with mortality rate of 8 % and more spreading like flu. But this is not.

[baddog]

Originally Posted by RyuLion

Google Covid Passport.

Biden said it is unenforceable and will be on the honor system

[candyflip]

Originally Posted by klinton

why do you "care" about unvaccinated people, if you are vaccinated by yourself?
according to your logic, you are "safe", so why you care about them?
its their business what they do with themselves, not yours.

Because we've been brainwashed into thinking we're doing this to protect others. That we're being good citizens by playing along with this nonsense.

The ultimate in virtue signaling, which is why one side is making a case of it.

[newB]

Originally Posted by klinton

I don't care because until I'm healthy, I don't care.
And I do all to be normal/ healthy.

I don't plan to live in fear, I live normally like always.

Fuck, could i expect that this one mosquito that bite me back then in Carribean had dengue virus? Nope I did not, I lived normally without fear obsession.
I catched it, got well after 2 days. Was weak afterwards for around 10 days.

Illness is a part of life, getting well too.

And no, new variants appear regardless of vaccinations.

ps. I would be scared of something with mortality rate of 8 % and more spreading like flu. But this is not.

LOL - and there we have it. I think you just summed it up perfectly.

Your post is all about YOU. How YOUR life is affected.

My posts on the subject - and those advocating for masks, social distancing, and vaccinations - acknowledge how our choices affect our local communities and society.

Well done.

[klinton]

Originally Posted by newB

LOL - and there we have it. I think you just summed it up perfectly.

Your post is all about YOU. How YOUR life is affected.

My posts on the subject - and those advocating for masks, social distancing, and vaccinations - acknowledge how our choices affect our local communities and society.

Well done.

Great. You sound like an authoritarian communist...

Health is a private matter.

Wouldn't be better to leave it to the most concerned - individual people?

Its in each own's best interest to be healthy - and how they do it, it's their choice.

[candyflip]

Originally Posted by candyflip

Because we've been brainwashed into thinking we're doing this to protect others. That we're being good citizens by playing along with this nonsense.

The ultimate in virtue signaling, which is why one side is making a case of it.

Originally Posted by newB

LOL - and there we have it. I think you just summed it up perfectly.

Your post is all about YOU. How YOUR life is affected.

My posts on the subject - and those advocating for masks, social distancing, and vaccinations - acknowledge how our choices affect our local communities and society.

Well done.

See what I mean?

[vdbucks]

Originally Posted by newB

LOL - and there we have it. I think you just summed it up perfectly.

Your post is all about YOU. How YOUR life is affected.

My posts on the subject - and those advocating for masks, social distancing, and vaccinations - acknowledge how our choices affect our local communities and society.

Well done.

I'm sorry but you are no better than those you disagree with. You can claim moral superiority all you want, but at the end of the day, if you weren't worried about it affecting you then you wouldn't be bothered either.

There's nothing wrong with self-preservation, and to each their own, but stop with the BS savior complex.

[newB]

Originally Posted by vdbucks

I'm sorry but you are no better than those you disagree with. You can claim moral superiority all you want, but at the end of the day, if you weren't worried about it affecting you then you wouldn't be bothered either.

There's nothing wrong with self-preservation, and to each their own, but stop with the BS savior complex.

If that were the case, then you lot would be right to say I live in fear. But frankly, you know nothing about me. Go back and look at my post history regarding the virus, genetics, etc. I have multiple degrees in the life sciences - and that's my footing for my position on all of this: Science, not emotion.

I am somewhat surprised, though. I would have thought all the anti-maskers and anti-vaxxers would be more encouraged by more people joining them in not wearing their masks.