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CurrentlySober · 10-27-2021, 04:31 AM

So my phone updated to Android 12 last night. When I transfer the video files taken today onto pc, they are there, playable by VLC but the thumb is just the VLC sigh - Not a pic of the video clip.

When I import the new clips into davinci resolve as usual, I get a red square saying 'File Offline' - Any ideas?

CurrentlySober · 10-27-2021, 05:26 AM

Must be a weird fault from the android end, cause if I backup my 4K file to google cloud, then download it as 1080p, it works fine...

CurrentlySober · 10-28-2021, 01:37 PM

Right, so I done some research and this is what appears to be happening... My phone appears to be using a corrupted codec to encode the videos it takes.

If I open it in VLC and 'convert' the .mp4 file to another .mp4 file, its recognisable and useable again, but much lower quality.

All the files from my phone pre android 12 still work perfectly. Guess I gonna have to wait for some kinda update....

Bummer...

ZTT · 10-28-2021, 02:26 PM

Sounds like it's probably this:

"Compared to H.264/AVC, ie. the video codec that most camera apps on Android smartphones record in by default, Google says that H.265/HEVC can record videos at the same quality but with half the bitrate, resulting in significant file size reductions."

https://www.xda-developers.com/oems-...droid-12-hevc/

Apparently Davinci can't handle all h.265 files, and they have to be converted to DNxHD or ProRes format.

CurrentlySober · 10-28-2021, 02:45 PM

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Originally Posted by ZTT

Sounds like it's probably this:

"Compared to H.264/AVC, ie. the video codec that most camera apps on Android smartphones record in by default, Google says that H.265/HEVC can record videos at the same quality but with half the bitrate, resulting in significant file size reductions."

https://www.xda-developers.com/oems-...droid-12-hevc/

Apparently Davinci can't handle all h.265 files, and they have to be converted to DNxHD or ProRes format.

Wow thanks - That's genuinely helpful. It at least gives me a reason as to whats going on. The fact its changed the codec to H.265/HEVC makes absolute sense in as far as it explains what's going on...

Now I got to find a way to either switch H.265/HEVC off on my device, or find a way to convert them in a lossless way so I can carry on as normal.

What has been an enjoyable hobby for the last few years of getting my files from the phone, chucking them into resolve and then popping them up on YouTube has become an entire performance that is almost like actual work!

If you have any ideas, I'm all ears. Thing is though, even windows doesn't recognise this new format. So I'm kinda at a loss as to what to do?

CurrentlySober · 10-28-2021, 02:55 PM

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Originally Posted by ZTT

Most USEFUL Advice EVER posted on GFY EVER!!!

Thank you so much for leading me down this path. I have managed to find it in the settings, (Now I knew what I was looking for) and my phone is back to normal again !

Genuine thanks - If there's ever anything I can do for you... Well, I owe yah one

ZTT · 10-28-2021, 08:39 PM

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Originally Posted by CurrentlySober

Thank you so much for leading me down this path. I have managed to find it in the settings, (Now I knew what I was looking for) and my phone is back to normal again !

Genuine thanks - If there's ever anything I can do for you... Well, I owe yah one

Thanks! I never dreamed I'd ever win an official GFY Award!

Good to know you got it fixed; it's always a pain when updates break stuff.

Was the setting anything to do with chroma subsampling (setting it to 4:2:0)? From what I read that seems to be the most compatible type for h.265.

Since I didn't know anything about this before and found it quite interesting I also looked up conversion and found this:

https://superuser.com/questions/1380...t-quality-loss

I don't know how well it works and you don't need it now anyway, but no harm in posting it.

sandman! · 10-28-2021, 09:43 PM

Every format works in windows if you have codex pack installed

https://codecguide.com/download_kl.htm

My 2 year old phone does h265 also and I have no problems watching the videos on windows

Quote:

Originally Posted by CurrentlySober

Wow thanks - That's genuinely helpful. It at least gives me a reason as to whats going on. The fact its changed the codec to H.265/HEVC makes absolute sense in as far as it explains what's going on...

Now I got to find a way to either switch H.265/HEVC off on my device, or find a way to convert them in a lossless way so I can carry on as normal.

What has been an enjoyable hobby for the last few years of getting my files from the phone, chucking them into resolve and then popping them up on YouTube has become an entire performance that is almost like actual work!

If you have any ideas, I'm all ears. Thing is though, even windows doesn't recognise this new format. So I'm kinda at a loss as to what to do?

CurrentlySober · 10-29-2021, 10:10 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ZTT

Was the setting anything to do with chroma subsampling (setting it to 4:2:0)? From what I read that seems to be the most compatible type for h.265.

No idea at all mate - I just found something in the advanced camera settings that said 'Use H.265/HEVC' which was toggled to 'On'

I toggled it to off, and all was great again. I mean, I can understand someone who only or mainly just uses a phone, to want it on, in order to save space and make a smaller file size etc...

But for people like me who use the phone simply as a step in their workflow, meaning transfer to PC, its a complete fuckup. I mean, how was I to know why it suddenly stopped working? I could have looked at the H.265/HEVC toggle, not known what it was for and thought I'll leave that well alone cause I dont wanna fuck it up anymore !

But anyway, all good again now ! thanks again !

CurrentlySober · 10-29-2021, 10:12 AM

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Originally Posted by sandman!

Every format works in windows if you have codex pack installed

https://codecguide.com/download_kl.htm

My 2 year old phone does h265 also and I have no problems watching the videos on windows

I wouldn't have even known what codec pack to download. I mean, when something works a certain way, day in, day out over and over again for like a couple of years, then just stops overnight, its confusing.

Bet anyway. All good now and I'm left with a much better understanding as to what to do next time it stops working

10-27-2021, 04:31 AM	#1
CurrentlySober Too lazy to wipe my ass Industry Role: Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: A Public Bathroom Posts: 37,910	Davinci Resolve / Android 12 - Files Offline? So my phone updated to Android 12 last night. When I transfer the video files taken today onto pc, they are there, playable by VLC but the thumb is just the VLC sigh - Not a pic of the video clip. When I import the new clips into davinci resolve as usual, I get a red square saying 'File Offline' - Any ideas?

10-28-2021, 02:26 PM	#4
ZTT Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Apr 2019 Posts: 657	Sounds like it's probably this: "Compared to H.264/AVC, ie. the video codec that most camera apps on Android smartphones record in by default, Google says that H.265/HEVC can record videos at the same quality but with half the bitrate, resulting in significant file size reductions." https://www.xda-developers.com/oems-...droid-12-hevc/ Apparently Davinci can't handle all h.265 files, and they have to be converted to DNxHD or ProRes format. __________________ __________________

10-27-2021, 05:26 AM	#2
CurrentlySober Too lazy to wipe my ass Industry Role: Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: A Public Bathroom Posts: 37,910	Must be a weird fault from the android end, cause if I backup my 4K file to google cloud, then download it as 1080p, it works fine...

10-28-2021, 01:37 PM	#3
CurrentlySober Too lazy to wipe my ass Industry Role: Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: A Public Bathroom Posts: 37,910	Right, so I done some research and this is what appears to be happening... My phone appears to be using a corrupted codec to encode the videos it takes. If I open it in VLC and 'convert' the .mp4 file to another .mp4 file, its recognisable and useable again, but much lower quality. All the files from my phone pre android 12 still work perfectly. Guess I gonna have to wait for some kinda update.... Bummer...