It's really difficult to make jokes about Fiverr...

[hamiltonsteele]

Without coming across as a racist.

"Hello Dear,

I can do this. How much is you pay me ?"

[CurrentlySober]

TBF, its virtually impossible to say anything at all these days, without that happening.

[zijlstravideo]

Originally Posted by hamiltonsteele

Hello Dear

Personally, I prefer my replies to start with either "Hello bro" or "Hello friend", so I would ditch him.

[brassmonkey]

what does race have to do with this? if you don't like it move yo bitch ass on.

[hamiltonsteele]

Originally Posted by brassmonkey

what does race have to do with this? if you don't like it move yo bitch ass on.

Sums me up

[ianmoone332000]

Fiverr has turned total shit. Used to be decent to get articles at decent prices but thats long gone

[AmeliaG]

The question you should always ask yourself is: Is their English better than my Tagalog or Mandarin or French etc.?

Race has nothing to do with what someone's native language is or how well they speak English as a second language.

If you notice someone's English isn't great and wonder if that makes you seem racist...well, are you just maybe kinda racist? Because that really should not be a race issue.

[zijlstravideo]

Originally Posted by ianmoone332000

Fiverr has turned total shit. Used to be decent to get articles at decent prices but thats long gone

For custom drawings on the other hand, it's still one of the best places to get custom artwork done for very little money. Also quality voice-over audio recordings, for example.

If you spend some time searching the platform, You might be surprised how many creative folks you'll find on Fiverr, even today. Sure, not for a "fiverr" like in the early years, but for only $50 to $100, it's still a steal.

[J. Falcon]

Originally Posted by ianmoone332000

Fiverr has turned total shit. Used to be decent to get articles at decent prices but thats long gone

You should hire me.

Finding a good writer from India, Pakistan, Serbia etc is like finding a needle in a haystack. I'd go as far as saying it's impossible. You'll waste more time and money testing "writers" and going through their shitty samples than you would if you hired someone competent. I know this from experience. Cheap writers are not good writers. In 2022, that's truer than ever.

[Publisher Bucks]

We wanted to use a couple of the ebook types there but after searching through countless portfolios and finding several of our titles posted as their own work, we ended up sending around 100 DMCA notices instead.

The fucked up thing is, the people who run Fivver had no clue what a DMCA notice actually was so we had to send them to their upstream hosting provider instead for the copyrighted works to be removed.

Seems there is no policing of content their users post.

[hamiltonsteele]

Originally Posted by Publisher Bucks

We wanted to use a couple of the ebook types there but after searching through countless portfolios and finding several of our titles posted as their own work, we ended up sending around 100 DMCA notices instead.

The fucked up thing is, the people who run Fivver had no clue what a DMCA notice actually was so we had to send them to their upstream hosting provider instead for the copyrighted works to be removed.

Seems there is no policing of content their users post.

There's no sense in lying about it. Fiverr is basically a 3rd world site.

[blackmonsters]

Originally Posted by hamiltonsteele

Without coming across as a racist.

"Hello Dear,

I can do this. How much is you pay me ?"

I know this person; he is Ukrainian, you racist fuck.

[blackmonsters]

The biggest joke is that millions of idiots think they can get something worth a shit for $5.

[J. Falcon]

Originally Posted by blackmonsters

The biggest joke is that millions of idiots think they can get something worth a shit for $5.

[Lubas]

Originally Posted by blackmonsters

The biggest joke is that millions of idiots think they can get something worth a shit for $5.

True dat.

[Publisher Bucks]

Originally Posted by blackmonsters

The biggest joke is that millions of idiots think they can get something worth a shit for $5.

To be fair back in the day before all the 'get rich quick' designers and developers took it over, you could get some decent work done in terms of promo videos, banner ads and even copy text these days though, it really is best just to hire someone in-house

If nothing else, its a good example of how a site promoted itself from nothing to being able to make millions of dollars a year by doing nothing at all except being live.

[Rochard]

Originally Posted by AmeliaG

The question you should always ask yourself is: Is their English better than my Tagalog or Mandarin or French etc.?

Race has nothing to do with what someone's native language is or how well they speak English as a second language.

If you notice someone's English isn't great and wonder if that makes you seem racist...well, are you just maybe kinda racist? Because that really should not be a race issue.

I couldn't agree with you more. They speak more languages than I do.

YNOT Mail has one customer from the Phillipines and he calls me "bro" every other sentence and it's odd but I've grown used to it by now.

[lock]

https://seoclerks.com I have referred a lot of traffic into fiver and clerks with affiliates.

[brassmonkey]

Originally Posted by Rochard

I couldn't agree with you more. They speak more languages than I do.

YNOT Mail has one customer from the Phillipines and he calls me "bro" every other sentence and it's odd but I've grown used to it by now.

would hoss be better?

[hamiltonsteele]

Originally Posted by blackmonsters

The biggest joke is that millions of idiots think they can get something worth a shit for $5.

Supermarkets use a business model that depends heavily on the concept of *Loss Leaders*

I think that most businessmen, including myself, have sold something below our costs
because we're trying to generate interest in the rest of our commercial affairs.

So yes... I do believe I should be able to get something for $5

I'm not expecting 20 hours of video editing with CGI for $5 but equally I don't think
asking for a simple graphic or a 15 second webcam jingle is too much to ask for.

[TurboB]

Seoclerk and Fiverr are totally occupied by Pakistani and Bangladeshi "Sirs".
And all of them are experts of course.
After several "wars" after buying SEO services and getting my money back later by Paypal's buyer protection, I closed my accounts on both sites.

[J. Falcon]

Originally Posted by hamiltonsteele

Supermarkets use a business model that depends heavily on the concept of *Loss Leaders*

I think that most businessmen, including myself, have sold something below our costs
because we're trying to generate interest in the rest of our commercial affairs.

So yes... I do believe I should be able to get something for $5

I'm not expecting 20 hours of video editing with CGI for $5 but equally I don't think
asking for a simple graphic or a 15 second webcam jingle is too much to ask for.

You are aware that Fiverr charges freelancers a 20% commission?

[Publisher Bucks]

Originally Posted by J. Falcon

You are aware that Fiverr charges freelancers a 20% commission?

Thats the cost of the freelancers using their platform though to get put in front of millions of potential buyers of their services each day/week/month.

Would they generate any sales 'in house' if they were not on Fiverr for that same dollar commission? How much would it cost these individuals to generate a sale on thier own using more traditional advertising methods?

[J. Falcon]

Originally Posted by Publisher Bucks

Thats the cost of the freelancers using their platform though to get put in front of millions of potential buyers of their services each day/week/month.

Would they generate any sales 'in house' if they were not on Fiverr for that same dollar commission? How much would it cost these individuals to generate a sale on thier own using more traditional advertising methods?

Obviously all of that is true. I'm not arguing those points.

It's just something to consider when searching for talent on Fiverr. $5 for a a quick job is already laughably low. But $4 is what they're actually getting paid.

[Publisher Bucks]

Originally Posted by J. Falcon

Obviously all of that is true. I'm not arguing those points.

It's just something to consider when searching for talent on Fiverr. $5 for a a quick job is already laughably low. But $4 is what they're actually getting paid.

Oh I'm not arguing the fact is a pittance, at least from our viewpoint in the US.

$4 actually works out to a good wage in many Third World countries, india for example has an average monthly wage of $110, when broken down, its clear to see why many in these countries flood to freelance sites to make money.

I also wonder of those that get work that is sub-par, how many people actually cancel and request the $5 back, given that it really is so little to most and many of the freelancers on there will at least attempt to 'fix' issues.

[CurrentlySober]

Originally Posted by J. Falcon

shitty samples

Yummy

[J. Falcon]

Originally Posted by Publisher Bucks

Oh I'm not arguing the fact is a pittance, at least from our viewpoint in the US.

$4 actually works out to a good wage in many Third World countries, india for example has an average monthly wage of $110, when broken down, its clear to see why many in these countries flood to freelance sites to make money.

I also wonder of those that get work that is sub-par, how many people actually cancel and request the $5 back, given that it really is so little to most and many of the freelancers on there will at least attempt to 'fix' issues.

Yeah, but from India you'll get mostly freelancers like those mentioned in the OP. "Sirs" and such, especially when it comes to "writers"

You're better off keeping your 5 bucks.

[Publisher Bucks]

Originally Posted by J. Falcon

You're better off keeping your 5 bucks.

We know that, but im sure the thousands of 'new' business owners looking to get their logo, website, banner ads etc for cheap dont... As one of my neighbors says on a regular basis 'they gonna learn though' LOL

[NatalieMojoHost]

I get "Hello Sir" all the time. I have a pic avatar that clearly shows me being female, plus the name's Natalie, can't really be 2 ways about it... but oh well. I've given up correcting them. In truth, making jokes about Fiverr is like making jokes about a comedy show - it's already funny as it is.

[hamiltonsteele]

Originally Posted by J. Falcon

You are aware that Fiverr charges freelancers a 20% commission?

How is that my problem or concern when I'm the buyer?

Sellers that don't want to kick back 20% can go someplace else or market themselves
some other way.


That's how business works....

When, for whatever reason, you don't like how one company is doing business, you then take
your money to a different one.

Originally Posted by J. Falcon

But $4 is what they're actually getting paid.

Which is most likely the reason that Fiverr has become a 3rd world site.

But once again that's neither my problem nor my concern.

[J. Falcon]

Originally Posted by hamiltonsteele

How is that my problem or concern when I'm the buyer?

Sellers that don't want to kick back 20% can go someplace else or market themselves
some other way.


That's how business works....

When, for whatever reason, you don't like how one company is doing business, you then take
your money to a different one.



Which is most likely the reason that Fiverr has become a 3rd world site.

But once again that's neither my problem nor my concern.

I didn't say it was your fault. But it should be your concern, since you're obviously looking to purchase something you can use.

When hiring someone for a quick job, ask yourself, what kind of competent individual is willing to complete a project for $5 - 20%?

Like blackmonsters said, thinking you can purchase something good for $5 is a joke. Thinking you can buy something good for $5 - 20% commission is even funnier.

[J. Falcon]

Originally Posted by Publisher Bucks

We know that, but im sure the thousands of 'new' business owners looking to get their logo, website, banner ads etc for cheap dont... As one of my neighbors says on a regular basis 'they gonna learn though' LOL

[romeo22]

With that answer you will be sure that your job will be done very professionally

[hamiltonsteele]

Originally Posted by J. Falcon

I didn't say it was your fault. But it should be your concern, since you're obviously looking to purchase something you can use.

Well we agree that it's not my fault but we disagree about it being my concern.
What and how someone runs their business is none of my business.

* All the power to them if they make a billion dollars profit.
* Sucks to be them if they go bankrupt.

I'm not going to waste my time worrying about someone else's business success or failure

Originally Posted by J. Falcon

When hiring someone for a quick job, ask yourself, what kind of competent individual is willing to complete a project for $5 - 20%?

That's EXACTLY what I ask myself before I do business with anyone.

I need to establish confidence and a working relationship with someone BEFORE I trust
them enough to fork over a substantial sum of money.

So the "loss leader" approach works for me.

Let me see what someone can do and how professional they are. If I like their work and
how they conduct business then I'm willing to try them out on a more expensive project.

But when someone I don't know is charging me a similar price that people I already do
business with...

Well, I'm going to go with people that I know and have an established relationship instead
of giving someone new a shot.

It's the low price on a small project that justifies me taking risk on an unknown individual.

Give me a deal and I'll give you a shot.... Don't give me a deal and I'll keep using my guys.

[~Evilin~]

Originally Posted by blackmonsters

The biggest joke is that millions of idiots think they can get something worth a shit for $5.

+1

[blackmonsters]

Originally Posted by Publisher Bucks

Thats the cost of the freelancers using their platform though to get put in front of millions of potential buyers of their services each day/week/month.

Would they generate any sales 'in house' if they were not on Fiverr for that same dollar commission? How much would it cost these individuals to generate a sale on thier own using more traditional advertising methods?

I made a living for 20 years on this board posting for free.

I never made a dime outside of this site as a developer. (never bothered to try)

https://gfy.com/gfy-jobs-and-services-market/

[just a punk]

Originally Posted by hamiltonsteele

Without coming across as a racist.

"Hello Dear,

I can do this. How much is you pay me ?"

Has nothing to do with a race. You can't imagine how many Europeoids (whites) speak this way...

[Forkbeard]

Ha, so much this.

Originally Posted by AmeliaG

If you notice someone's English isn't great and wonder if that makes you seem racist...well, are you just maybe kinda racist?

[Publisher Bucks]

Originally Posted by Forkbeard

Ha, so much this.

But to be fair, that statement also correlates to a good 50+ percent of American kids these days.

[hamiltonsteele]

Originally Posted by Publisher Bucks

But to be fair, that statement also correlates to a good 50+ percent of American kids these days.

50% of American kids don't understand how their genitals work.
60% if ALL Americans can't figure out that sugar, grease, beer and 420 are not the four food groups